Quote from: Spacehunter on April 09, 2011, 16:39Quote from: HydrO on April 09, 2011, 16:32you should lose more points if play in a game with lower average than you not less (like the real ELO system), i think that is the big problem of the psr system.That kind of system would not work. Couse if you lose more if you have more than average, that means you would also gain more if you are above average. That kind of system would make it VERY hard to gain points, when you have low PSR and very easy when you have high PSR.Lol thats totaly unbalanced... Dont you agree HydrO?u should lose more but gain less.lets sayteam 1 have average points 1500team 2 have average points 1500then if player have 1600 psr, which is higher than average of the other team wins 5 points and loses 15 (for example)and a player that haves 1400 points gains 15 and loses 5 (for example)the problem is that in the actual system the player that haves 1600 gains 5 but also loses 5 (not exactly but loses less than the player with less score with makes no sense to me)
Quote from: HydrO on April 09, 2011, 16:32you should lose more points if play in a game with lower average than you not less (like the real ELO system), i think that is the big problem of the psr system.That kind of system would not work. Couse if you lose more if you have more than average, that means you would also gain more if you are above average. That kind of system would make it VERY hard to gain points, when you have low PSR and very easy when you have high PSR.Lol thats totaly unbalanced... Dont you agree HydrO?
you should lose more points if play in a game with lower average than you not less (like the real ELO system), i think that is the big problem of the psr system.
Quote from: Shadow on April 09, 2011, 18:36One thing is good and that is, if you play with stacked team every game against less skilled players, you will get score probably 16:2 i dont know, but you gain +1 or +3 PSR. Just check some stackers and you will see. That i like. On the other hand, i really do not care about PSR. It tells you nothing about the player. Player with K/D 9/3 and PSR 1480 is better than player with 4/5 and PSR 1680.That is so not true.Why don't anyone understand that this new system brought us TEAM dota!? I'd rather be in team with a guy who has 4/5 and 1680 PSR than the other one.Why ? Because the guy with 9/3 is(most probably) farmer,who solo alot and KS.And games are lost because of people like "him".I'd rather have 2/7 and win then 7/2 and lose.I really don't understand you...
One thing is good and that is, if you play with stacked team every game against less skilled players, you will get score probably 16:2 i dont know, but you gain +1 or +3 PSR. Just check some stackers and you will see. That i like. On the other hand, i really do not care about PSR. It tells you nothing about the player. Player with K/D 9/3 and PSR 1480 is better than player with 4/5 and PSR 1680.
Quote from: KaizerChief^ on April 09, 2011, 23:23Quote from: Shadow on April 09, 2011, 18:36One thing is good and that is, if you play with stacked team every game against less skilled players, you will get score probably 16:2 i dont know, but you gain +1 or +3 PSR. Just check some stackers and you will see. That i like. On the other hand, i really do not care about PSR. It tells you nothing about the player. Player with K/D 9/3 and PSR 1480 is better than player with 4/5 and PSR 1680.That is so not true.Why don't anyone understand that this new system brought us TEAM dota!? I'd rather be in team with a guy who has 4/5 and 1680 PSR than the other one.Why ? Because the guy with 9/3 is(most probably) farmer,who solo alot and KS.And games are lost because of people like "him".I'd rather have 2/7 and win then 7/2 and lose.I really don't understand you...LOL - team dota here on PD.eu? there are no permanent teams so i dont understand this system based on 1v1 rating. It could be done better way - check !sd of all players and base your score not on your win/lost but on your ingame score compared to your opponents score... That would be more predicate score.
Dustbuster your system can be misused by chosing heroes like acient aparition which is easy to get 15 assists per game average i have done it.Its not pwrfect, but better than PSR you cant go. Only thing you can do better is automatic team arangement, that would rock, than PSR would be 100% functional.Maybe make seperate ladder with just automatic arangment? You would simply !sing -rd in playdota channel for example and when 10 players sign it whispers you the game name, if you dont come some big penalty, so ppl would come:)
Quote from: DuffMan on April 10, 2011, 15:39Quote from: KaizerChief^ on April 09, 2011, 23:23Quote from: Shadow on April 09, 2011, 18:36One thing is good and that is, if you play with stacked team every game against less skilled players, you will get score probably 16:2 i dont know, but you gain +1 or +3 PSR. Just check some stackers and you will see. That i like. On the other hand, i really do not care about PSR. It tells you nothing about the player. Player with K/D 9/3 and PSR 1480 is better than player with 4/5 and PSR 1680.That is so not true.Why don't anyone understand that this new system brought us TEAM dota!? I'd rather be in team with a guy who has 4/5 and 1680 PSR than the other one.Why ? Because the guy with 9/3 is(most probably) farmer,who solo alot and KS.And games are lost because of people like "him".I'd rather have 2/7 and win then 7/2 and lose.I really don't understand you...LOL - team dota here on PD.eu? there are no permanent teams so i dont understand this system based on 1v1 rating. It could be done better way - check !sd of all players and base your score not on your win/lost but on your ingame score compared to your opponents score... That would be more predicate score.That's a bad attitude,why we can't have team dota here on PD? I believe everyone can play team dota,maybe not on the level of which we would all like,but it exists.Why it would be bad to get !sd system back is that it would start new wave of players who KS,stay behind,farm...just to get good !sd so they can join game.No one never cared about the WIN before,now they do and in my opinion destroying the throne is goal of the whole game....
Why people getting and loosing only 1-3 PSR?http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1659537/sdeu-pros
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