New PSR ranking system is absolutly retarded (I GET KICKED EVERYWHERE)

[Rocka]

Your thinks are totally true,I started to play 2 week ago and  played with retards 2 games then all rooms(noobs,pros,normals) kicked me the games cus my low psr ....Now I am not playing pd games ,ıt seems I must wait new season for pd games:S

Or just man up and ignore everything and keep on playing. I'm quite sure you guys give up if your lane partner died 2 times. Why would you? Doesn't it feel good to win a game you thought you were gonna lose?
If you are not able to play with those ''retards'' you are one aswell, since you can't manage to win (any) games. EVERYONE plays with people they might not like, and OFCOURSE that cause can be that they have a bad day. Everyone has those. Still just keep on playing and show them what you got. If you already give up after 2 games you aren't even deserving higher psr.

[Domagoj]

Well i dont know, everyone keeps complaining about PSR, but the truth is, at least in my case, that games have seriously improved ever since it was introduced, both in playability and the percentage of the games finished. Now for everyone who claims PSR says jack about a player; K/D is actually the thing that is very easily manipulable (ks-ing) so it is not at all appropriate for determining the player's skill. Since a lot of hosts didn'd even bother to check assists (not to mention creep data) back in the days of the old !sd, where a 5/7/20 player would be considered noob and 8/5/3 megapro most games looked like ks-whore fests.

Now we actually have players playing something other than mortred and troll, buying wards and fog, etc. in pubs in order to win the game, since they are no longer limited by the previous "i must have every kill possible" attitude. I actually think that PSR, with the assistance of stats that are still there to check is a very accurate way to assess a players skill.

There are a some problems with it regarding calculation, but thats about it, it is a very good system.

[Alucardo]

Well i dont know, everyone keeps complaining about PSR, but the truth is, at least in my case, that games have seriously improved ever since it was introduced, both in playability and the percentage of the games finished. Now for everyone who claims PSR says jack about a player; K/D is actually the thing that is very easily manipulable (ks-ing) so it is not at all appropriate for determining the player's skill. Since a lot of hosts didn'd even bother to check assists (not to mention creep data) back in the days of the old !sd, where a 5/7/20 player would be considered noob and 8/5/3 megapro most games looked like ks-whore fests.

Now we actually have players playing something other than mortred and troll, buying wards and fog, etc. in pubs in order to win the game, since they are no longer limited by the previous "i must have every kill possible" attitude. I actually think that PSR, with the assistance of stats that are still there to check is a very accurate way to assess a players skill.

There are a some problems with it regarding calculation, but thats about it, it is a very good system.

i totally agree with u about everything u said .. the psr idea about losing and winning is imba but its calculation is kinda shit

[Dustbuster]

I basicly agree with you-

I also using a player called PSR.SUX
Didn't help much...

I realize the only way to win or atleast have a descent game is:

I always chk the SD of ALL players in game.
1. First I look in denies --> if player has no denies i ask host 2 kick him, usually they do. if not i switch team or leave lobby.
2. Then I look at K/D/A
3. If he's K/D> 1 and A >> K = excelent
4. If he's K/D <1 but he's A>> K and has descent PSR --> good
5. If K>> A and PSR high --> not playing with this player, either switching team or leaving lobby
6. I always check !locked --> if entire team locked i chk SD of my team VERY CAREFULLY!!!
7. If i feel team unbalanced and PSR shows 50/50 or even 70/30 for my team--> i leave.

Basiclly, I at first I really hated PSR system, it has one basic major mailfunction--> this is a system designed for 1v1 matches, or team vs team (fixed teams--> not random teams)

But now i just use it as a "jumping" step, host a game with 1600+ to avoid mega retarded, and then SD all and kick the retarded that has 1600+


It WOULD be great if they can come up with a system than combine Win/Loss with stats/gameplay somehow...


Till then, SD ALL PPL!!

G/L

[Alucardo]

i played with u before psr.sux and i rly agree with almost everything u said specially about sd and psr thing and usually i do the same thing as u do

anyway i hope they will improve psr and balance command for the next days but armm .. still psr is over sd in my opinion i mean .. 90% of ppl who have more than 10 kills or something either join noob games or mhers

[chelom]

I basicly agree with you-

I also using a player called PSR.SUX
Didn't help much...

I realize the only way to win or atleast have a descent game is:

I always chk the SD of ALL players in game.
1. First I look in denies --> if player has no denies i ask host 2 kick him, usually they do. if not i switch team or leave lobby.
2. Then I look at K/D/A
3. If he's K/D> 1 and A >> K = excelent
4. If he's K/D <1 but he's A>> K and has descent PSR --> good
5. If K>> A and PSR high --> not playing with this player, either switching team or leaving lobby
6. I always check !locked --> if entire team locked i chk SD of my team VERY CAREFULLY!!!
7. If i feel team unbalanced and PSR shows 50/50 or even 70/30 for my team--> i leave.

Basiclly, I at first I really hated PSR system, it has one basic major mailfunction--> this is a system designed for 1v1 matches, or team vs team (fixed teams--> not random teams)

But now i just use it as a "jumping" step, host a game with 1600+ to avoid mega retarded, and then SD all and kick the retarded that has 1600+


It WOULD be great if they can come up with a system than combine Win/Loss with stats/gameplay somehow...


Till then, SD ALL PPL!!

G/L

LOL PSR for what i know its very complex method to check how good a player is. Im pretty sure that if theres a system that take into consideration being solo player on a team game Pd.eu would be using that one instead. Im not saying PSR is perfect but its better than almost everything u can come up with

U have to be smart from what u have. So your idea of checkings all the players SD is nice, now just come up with an idea that could do that a lot faster, and have his criterias for comparisions well defined, not something ambiguous. And that system has to be better than the psr system pd.eu is currently using. So that system can be implemented. This one is of the many reasons u cant have a better comparision system.

[LexMonster]

HasLeftTheGame is not noob. He has skills.
And yeah, I agree, PSR sux, and it usually means nothing.

For example look at player "Nekrumancer"
Nothing personal but that dude is a noob. And his PSR? 1755...
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2235036/sdeu1600-1           2/11
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2213727/exc                         5/14
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2203796/ap-pdeu-pros-1      6/14

And many many more. But you are wondering how did he get so high PSR? Ofc by stacking team, with probably the 3 best pd.eu players (totally_screwd, night^^stalker, saintknight)

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2206648/appdeupros1600-1   stacked team (ap mode ofc) with 4 stunners, 3 of them are aoe stunners..

But sometimes even stacked team cant help you..
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2190804/nekru          totally_screwd 12/2 , nekrumancer 4/9 (and they lost game)

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2215075/rd-eu-pro-1700-1-4 even thou saintknight had 24/4 and nekrumancer 3/11 (they lost game)

Nothing personal nekrumancer...

[chelom]

It mean something but. A high PSR is more likely to be better than a lower PSR. OFC theyre exeptions. Someone can abuse the PSR playing with noobs and other stuff. But if ppl actually play games with people with simlar PSR all the time. Then the psr system will give more precise information.

Im not sure if its about the psr system not working or not to many ppl playing. For what i have experience. Theres 2 or 3 pd.eu games and sometimes 1 game with players PSR similar to mine. So im not always able to joing games with similar PSR. And also the noobs that think theyre good and join a 1700 psr game with 15++ psr. which only contribute to the PSR system being less accurative. Players need to help the system so it can help them.

[Alucardo]

HasLeftTheGame is not noob. He has skills.
And yeah, I agree, PSR sux, and it usually means nothing.

For example look at player "Nekrumancer"
Nothing personal but that dude is a noob. And his PSR? 1755...
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2235036/sdeu1600-1           2/11
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2213727/exc                         5/14
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2203796/ap-pdeu-pros-1      6/14

And many many more. But you are wondering how did he get so high PSR? Ofc by stacking team, with probably the 3 best pd.eu players (totally_screwd, night^^stalker, saintknight)

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2206648/appdeupros1600-1   stacked team (ap mode ofc) with 4 stunners, 3 of them are aoe stunners..

But sometimes even stacked team cant help you..
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2190804/nekru          totally_screwd 12/2 , nekrumancer 4/9 (and they lost game)

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2215075/rd-eu-pro-1700-1-4 even thou saintknight had 24/4 and nekrumancer 3/11 (they lost game)

Nothing personal nekrumancer...

hasleftthegame is not noob? nice joke btw how about u both play tetris? nice idea huh .. btw hasleftthegame i u think ur real pro come fight me 1v1 k? since u believe psr is shit same to lex im rdy to pwn any noobs like u at anytime

and yeah u said 1 thing right. . nekrumancer is a big noob who cant play with a stack team in his side but he is 1 person from about 100 person who has 1700 psr so it rly aint big deal till now psr is the best

and btw i can play carry all the time and steal kills like np .. oh now im the best player in the world b/c i steal

ah and ofc i will go to noob games to get kills better cheers

[LexMonster]

Im sorry the_justice, you are pro and I didnt mean to offend you in any way.... /sarcasm OFF

and btw i can play carry all the time and steal kills like np .. oh now im the best player in the world b/c i steal

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2223534/ap-eupd-1600-1               carry sniper mega stealer 1/10/5
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2224737/areucome-all-join-fast-2   carry venge mega stealer 1/17/7
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2224138/sd-eu-1600-1                   carry venge mega stealer 0/10/8

Yeah, I see that you can steal... You have low assits, and no kills, but you have many deaths..
You are also noob like nekrumancer, and you also play stacked team, thats how you got your PSR.

And lets not forget:
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2210778/appdeu-1-2 lina 2/17
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2224538/apeupd-4 pro zeus stealer 5/14
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2211621/sd-eu-pros-1650-1-2 pro tiny 1/10

You are simple forum spammer, who can only .. guess what? SPAM
You have the least rights to say something about DotA. You are one of the biggest noobs around here.

[Alucardo]

if u find more replays post them here too 

[LexMonster]

if u find more replays post them here too 

Wow, is that all you can say? And put smily at the end?
Go spam more and leave DotA, you will do us all a favour!

And I still dont understand how can someone get killed 17 (SEVENTEEN) times in 1 (ONE) game...

[Alucardo]

if u find more replays post them here too 

Wow, is that all you can say? And put smily at the end?
Go spam more and leave DotA, you will do us all a favour!

And I still dont understand how can someone get killed 17 (SEVENTEEN) times in 1 (ONE) game...

u dont have to understand it =)

P.S if u found more than 15 replays playing with final or more than 5 replays playing remeig i will leave dota like u want  in my 500 games

[Sauzer]

It mean something but. A high PSR is more likely to be better than a lower PSR. OFC theyre exeptions. Someone can abuse the PSR playing with noobs and other stuff. But if ppl actually play games with people with simlar PSR all the time. Then the psr system will give more precise information.

Im not sure if its about the psr system not working or not to many ppl playing. For what i have experience. Theres 2 or 3 pd.eu games and sometimes 1 game with players PSR similar to mine. So im not always able to joing games with similar PSR. And also the noobs that think theyre good and join a 1700 psr game with 15++ psr. which only contribute to the PSR system being less accurative. Players need to help the system so it can help them.

PSR is a disaster! Before that system rating a lot of pro/semi pro ppl checked only !sd and ofc it was rly faster than now b/c this check was made by several ppl in the lobby; now this doesnt happen anymore and ofc it takes 1 or 2 mins....rly too much time!!!!!!!!!!

psr means nothing :

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2177224/ap-eu

Grasume, lowest psr of both teams 1450 played well and lead us to the victory (ofc checked K/D/A).

What I want to say is that the ratio of psr would have been right for games 1v1 but not here, full of pubs games, where u donk talk (y talk, not write )with your teamates. It is good ofc for cw but rly not for pubs where the team coordination cant be good. Im not talking of competitive games but nor pubs!!!!

K/D/A helps rly much more; Kills not so much but D/A and creeps denied yes.

[Alucardo]

he chose lycan and it was noob game and got 10 3 only? ahahahahaha

mate try better seriesly lol .. with only 61 cs and 26 nc

btw where is his bkb? xD