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but I don't flame players randomly
« on: April 19, 2020, 15:18 »
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=190743.0

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but I don't flame players randomly

@TooShade
In fact, you flame alot and for no viable reason, i can just set up a parser to let yourself know how much and how hard you flame in games
I can also provide few selected games analysis and let you know that, hm, let me calculate, like 100% of your flames are irrelevant, thus those are random

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Discuss.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 15:20 by AntlermanXXL »
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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2020, 16:05 »
This is a classic example of provocation. Are you here for what? Do you have a warrant? It sounds to me a lot like "let me play the part to be heard."
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 16:06 by TooShade »

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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2020, 16:21 »
I mean i dislike of such cases existence, like you do;

Abusing 'provocation' part, while in fact you are just not able to hold and control your own emotions in game;

Let me put in some weird, but real life example, i even spoiler it out:
Spoiler for Hiden:
In russian army rules set (when it comes to military tribunal), there is no such point about 'getting provoked'. If you broke a rule, it does not matter if you got provoked. The will either jail you either shoot you, while the "provoker" will most likely not be affected;
Basically i agree with this system, since it forces you to have way more control of emotions and impulses;
It`s not provokers fault that you fell into your impulses and broke rules;
If you mentally exploded and went mad, instead of calmly responding him, damaging him without letting any judge (moderator) to know - it is completely your fault

But here for some reason it is okay just to madly rush on someone, then say 'he provoked me'.
Isn`t it accepting own weakness? You just let everyone know that 'provoker', surpassed you, at same time as you let provoker get his enjoyment multiplied

What's that hard in not flaming anyone in game, - i do not know;

You count as provocation even those cases when someone just asks you to be more safe in games, you instantly flame him, then !ignore; Then ~20 minutes passes and you start flaming him again; Awesome following template over and over;

Please, do not deny the fact that you (and many else people) are just abusing 'provocation' rule for whatever reason. And do not deny the fact that you yourself are a flamer even without provocation;
Using many accounts, i played many games with you (and we have won them), you just rush in flames to any random player, once game goes a bit "wrong" (while it does not, its just part of flow, nothing even bad happens in game infact)

I was playing with your funny turkish friends, they were (are) very cool, but you were always the one who flames around. I remember asking them, whats wrong with you, - they accepted the fact of you being flamer, even called you mentally unstable.
I do not know if i find game logs, since Cen removed it after season reset, but i think i can just re-ask your friends about this and they will most likely answer same

Same as @KhaLiD..., will you guys ever stop being that blind to logic?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 16:26 by AntlermanXXL »
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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2020, 16:30 »
Agree.
Anyway you are not an investigator, just do your job as a member, and stop argue the behavior of others.

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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2020, 16:47 »
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Anyway you are not an investigator, just do your job as a member, and stop argue the behavior of others.

I believe i used arguments in my short speech, while you just threw a false statement:
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you are not an investigator
All the facts are false until you prove them, so this is false one currently

Then you went further, based on that false statement (which results as false sentence):
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just do your job as a member
But, lets consider that first statement did not exist, so we check this part out;
Member of what?
What exactly is my job as a member?
What it will lead to, if i will do my job only as a member?
What it will lead to, if i will do more job than a regular member?
Spoiler part, because i did assumption here:
Spoiler for Hiden:
Let`s assume i am member of commune, which would be awesome here;
Then every member of commune knows main goal of commune, so every member works hard to implement this goal.
So it would be part of everyone's duty to strictly follow desired environment;
And if any member sees violation, he does his best to prevent it, with help of other commune members;
This is how commune works, you can check it out either by examining commune of ants, either by checking out how commune works in Korea

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stop argue the behavior of others
Why exactly i should stop arguing behavior of others?

Arguments, where
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 16:55 by AntlermanXXL »
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40:23 Hiatus [Allies] AHAHAH
40:25 don_Kondo [Allies] ya mala myshka
40:28 Hiatus [Allies] AHAHAHAH

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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2020, 17:03 »
@AntlermanXXL  we are still waiting on the screenshot of your warrant.

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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2020, 17:04 »
Am I wrong? Are you an investigator? I can imagine that you are not, but this doesn't justify your post.

It sounds to me as much as "now I put this topic on TooShade, to attract attention and maybe if they see I'm right, maybe they'll give me what I want", or simply you want arrive at the point to kick a player that you hate from this server. I see it so, like a backass move.

But the question is, why you opened post on me? Why right on me? Do you hate me? If yes just explain the motivation, I can improve on the fact.
Also when I played with Sumiya, and you were in there too, I wanted get fun with you guys but you always kicked me, and you can't deny the fact that I tried to be good to you, and you answered me simly with a kick from game and bad words.

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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2020, 17:16 »
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Am I wrong? Are you an investigator? I can imagine that you are not, but this doesn't justify your post.
Still not any proofs

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It sounds to me as much as "now I put this topic on TooShade, to attract attention and maybe if they see I'm right, maybe they'll give me what I want", or simply you want arrive at the point to kick a player that you hate from this server. I see it so, like a backass move.
It sounds to you, cool. Try to read exact information in my posts instead, it was nothing about what you assumed here.

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But the question is, why you opened post on me? Why right on me? Do you hate me?
Mister, you just lied to Jimmy few minutes before my thread, - make a connection, please?
We, deers, actually got sick of people like you here.
Just spreading bad attitude, behavior around, not even trying to have real fun of dying game;
At same time, i personally believe that everyone can change, does not matter in which environment he was formed since born day. So, those public threads can bring way more profit that private message discussions (tried with few guys, they went back to trash again, sadly), while public actions led to awesome changes, thus we have a bit more friendly and fun players, than before.

Another reason is that i find you an awesome example of pretender, who acts awful in games, but then comes here and asks for bans/unbans, because he is that cool very active gameplayer;

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I wanted get fun with you guys but you always kicked me
We started to kick you by exact reason that you flamed hard me and my friends on  another accounts, which means you just pretended to be friendly while playing with us on known accounts.
You actually even managed to flame me on main account, while we had a fun game;

Also you spammed '!ff' and 'gg' on every little failure, which is not what deers do;
Quite annoyed, too bad that you did not know reasons;

Nothing was done without reason;
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 17:19 by AntlermanXXL »
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40:22 Hiatus [Allies] OLENISHKA
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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2020, 17:18 »
@AntlermanXXL  we are still waiting on the screenshot of your warrant.
Here we go
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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2020, 17:27 »
Okay sir, I will try to do as you said, to take the games with fun instead of seriously, I will try to listen to your advice, but as I said in the request to Jimmy, I will pay more attention from now on. I hope you have taken seriously what I said, and that maybe you can trust me on what I will do.

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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2020, 17:28 »
Cool, thank you !
Hope together we can make this community awesome again
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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2020, 17:33 »
Of course, count on it.
Greetings deer,
ah and:
Agree.
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Re: but I don't flame players randomly
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2020, 18:18 »
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you flamed hard me and my friends on  another accounts, which means you just pretended to be friendly while playing with us on known accounts.

I encountered such situation, leaves funny feeling