Total Members Voted: 20
Voting closed: February 14, 2020, 19:34
I didnt want to post but whateverLets look at previous "top 20 ladder" players and imagine a game with 1700+ psrborilla, kealthas, deynro, fatality, wutch, fairy, liie and you can add or change with bunch of others like bolt, troll, ayds, thror, pastmistake, greatwolf etc.These are the so called top 20 players if I am right. Lets imagine a game with full of these players (95% it happens to be few of them in same game-lobby).In sentinel team:-borilla-fataliy+wutch (cos they play together)- (you can insert some random of those or whatever)-greatwolf-pastmistakeScourge team:-denyro-fairy-bolt-kealthas-insert some randomSo, here is the question, is this game balanced even with 1700-1800+PSR players?My answer is, No. Because I personally, more or less know their play-style and what they are capable of. However, (this is the most important part) it is according to me, to my observation, to my perception.Some of those players "strategy" might connect while at the same time might not. And here starts the real problem, current host of the game, wants to balance game according to "his imagination" by saying this player is good and this player is shit. But again, its according to "his opinion". So lets go back to "why it is not balanced" question. If we continue with our example above, team sentinel will have 2 supports, midlaner, carry and offlaner. (borilla or fatality mid, wutch will play either support or any role he likes, wolf will play some yakiro or cm, pastmistake maybe phoenix idk)meanwhile team scourge will have deynro mid, fairy spectre or something, bolt the mega hooker, kealthas tiny, and some random who will be forced to play support while he is going to get creeps or idk buy items instead of wards.While team sentinel has few players with higher winrate, team scourge has maybe less. For this reason its possible to say its unbalanced. HOWEVER, this doesnt mean that scourge will lose 100% for obvious reasons idk if I have to say but whatever I will. Sentinel can have miscommunications (or throw the game) and lose the game easily. These players have different knowledge whether they are 1800 or 2000+psr. This is the part where it comes to "psr-rank is just a number" or as mister Antlerman pointed "imaginary balance". (I dont really wanna go further with examples, I could use tons of with so called "Professional DotA2 Players")As a conclusion I would say, I just pointed maybe 1 or 2 things that show balance is imaginary, meanwhile there are many points which can be added. If you want to change balance system do it as you please, however, just dont do anything related with "playing with friends" or with its stereotype word "stacking".Thanks
Locking 4 pro friends with you is not considered stacker host. However, when i have 14/3/12 k/d/a and I dont know the host but he still locks me with him thats considered stacking.I had an account with 15/4/12 and 50% of the games I was locked top without knowing the host , or swapped top after the balance. At least this kind of behavior from people that do it daily should be punished.
I was confused with this, and it was not only once, but it happens from time to time to /w wrong bot. If it was changed to la-custom or custom-la everyone would understand why is like that. But like this you must to read on forum to understand, even if you don't understand..
Guys you are overcomplicating things, while its as simple as: Host your own game and play the way you like.
Yeah this makes him pathetic and we already realized this in some other topic, He should get banned for spamming especially since its in purpose of "deceiving". But as a host he is allowed to do any lockings, and players are free to leave the game if they don't like it.
Quote from: Akuma on February 14, 2020, 21:50Yeah this makes him pathetic and we already realized this in some other topic, He should get banned for spamming especially since its in purpose of "deceiving". But as a host he is allowed to do any lockings, and players are free to leave the game if they don't like it.We all know that currently the host can lock and do as you want. For this reason I suggested to change the rules so that excessive stacking wouldnt be allowed.Things and circumstances change. In the past you could leave the lobby and join an other lobby or host your own game. Now, especially during after 2 server time this is not possible due to lack of players. You either stay and tolerate this pathetic lobby or leave and waitr 30-60min for the next game or go to sleep. The stacking hosts know that and abuse it! Seeveral times I told to some host politely please dont stack and the response was to kick me and laugh with the fact that now I had to go offline since there was no other game to join and hosting pointless since already the 30 online players are ingame.
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625294502:42 TooShade !balance02:46 TooShade !sp02:56 TooShade !Lock tes (locked feeder bot)02:57 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u (spam to hide stacking)03:10 TooShade !Lock pal (locked feeder bot)03:10 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u (spam to hide stacking)04:56 TooShade !Lock java (locked feeder bot)04:56 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u (spam to hide stacking)http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625262400:23 TooShade !balance00:51 TooShade !Lock dark (locked feeder bot)00:52 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)01:10 TooShade !Balance01:16 TooShade !Lock cd(locked feeder bot)01:16 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)01:53 TooShade !balance01:56 TooShade !lock more(locked feeder bot)01:56 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking).......... and the stacking continues http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625254506:44 TooShade !Lock dav(locked feeder bot)06:44 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)08:37 TooShade !Lock gom(locked feeder bot)08:37 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)08:47 TooShade !Lock 3az(locked feeder bot)08:47 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)08:53 3az3az has left the game.09:37 TooShade !Lock 3az(locked feeder bot)09:37 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)09:55 TooShade !Lock 01(locked feeder bot)09:55 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking).......... and the stacking continues http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625125901:46 TooShade !lock sco(locked feeder bot)01:46 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)01:49 TooShade !Lock si(locked feeder bot)01:49 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625107504:22 [pietruch] PSR: 1548 games: 1158 W/L: 3/004:22 H. K/D/A 1.33/5.33/8.67 C. K/D/N 222.67/5.67/141.6704:24 TooShade !Lock pie (Lock feeder player bot)http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625105102:25 [nihal_kotar] PSR: 1440 games: 781 W/L: 14/1602:25 H. K/D/A 4.53/9.00/12.90 C. K/D/N 84.13/3.43/22.6302:30 TooShade !lock kot(locked feeder bot)02:30 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 05:03 TooShade !Lock salo(locked feeder bot)05:03 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 06:08 TooShade !Lock giub(locked feeder bot)06:08 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 06:37 TooShade !lock has(locked feeder bot)06:37 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625187401:46 TooShade !Lock ras(locked feeder bot)01:46 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 06:42 TooShade !Lock dra(locked feeder bot)06:42 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 08:42 TooShade !Lock iron(locked feeder bot)08:42 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=625000201:06 TooShade !Lock moz(locked feeder bot)01:06 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 01:30 TooShade !lock -[ (locked feeder bot)01:30 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking) 01:54 TooShade !swap 4 801:54 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u01:57 TooShade !Lock _sk(locked feeder bot)01:57 TooShade !hold f u c k . y o u f u c k . y o u(spam to hide stacking)
If uve only seen stuff like this thanks to ernestos post,u gotta be one of those guys who just enter a lobby and afk it til the moment ure kicked/game started.Started with the popular mk stackers few years back if i recall,even they dont do that anymore tho
All you have to do is to remove the kda/stats system and all problems, dramas etc are solved. It's that simple!Take notes! MONGOLOIDS!