Supports Strategy Discussion - free games ( -ap mode )

[FrostyShad]

Hello. First i ejoing to play at LA bot , in free games , -ap mode, for a Sentinels  usually for a Supports Heroes .
But i have to hight ping , that is non-stable and jumping from apprx 250ms - 700ms , and i can`t fix it  .

Crystal Maiden 

It`s a my favorite hero . I playing almost always at the bottom line , and most of time i had creating tripple line , and that does rage of my team .     
My farm is simple ,  i try to pull creeps to the 1st pack of forest monsters , and the to the 2nd .
Skills_build is simple :  1. Frost_Blast 2. Aura of Mana 3. Cold Feet
Items_build simple too:  1. Chicken , Circle of Nobility , Trees   . 2 Items that giving to CM Hit Points, like a Ghost Stuff etc.  .
3. many time i build unexpected items like a Cranium Basher, Diffusial Blade .

Necrolyte

I dont like how it`s look, but i like pretty nice abbilities of this hero .  I never coming to the middline coz ping   .  I playing exacly like a CM , on bottom tripple line . 
Skills_build: 1. Death Pulse 2. Sadist 3. Death Pulse
Items Build : 1. Same to CM  . 2 Same to Cm . 3 in the most of games i like Sasha_Yasha , and Buriza sometimes

Zeus aka Merlini

If my team have a gankers like a Barathrum or Slark, Legion Commander, Mirana etc , i had usually picking this pretty hero .
Always i am farming creeps in the woods , but sometime harrasing opossing teams at the line
Skills_build: 1. Arc Lightning 2.Lightning Bolt 3. Static Field
Items Build : 1. Same to CM  . 2 Usually Ghost Stuff . 3 Black King Bar, or something to surviving

Dazzle

If opossing have a gankers like a Barathrum or Slark, Legion Commander, Mirana etc , i had usually picking this pretty hero .
Always i am farming creeps in the woods , but sometime resquing my teammates at the line
Skills_build: 1. Poison Touch 2.Shadow Wave 3. Shallow Grave
Items Build : 1. Same to CM  . 2 Bracers, or smth to HP . 3 Mjoilinr, Rdiance or something to surviving



Heroes that i can`t playing, coz i have hight and crazy ping: 
Mirana, Butcher, Ancient Aparation, Clockwerk, Nevermore, Puck, Invoker, Slark, Phenix, Lina, Skorpion, etc. . .


I wonna some adwice to my tactics and picking heroes . 

With regards, frostyshad.


P.S.
Sorry for a my English lvl,  pre-intermediate , i`ll try to fix it. 

[MadMan]

Such very wow guide, troll us some more please.
Cause if you're not trolling than you're retarded

btw

[ilikedat]

he's funny guy madman,I like him allready 

[iNevermore]

Let me see whats going on here...

[Rocka]

fucking noob starts with circlet

[DatFace]

Let me see whats going on here...

hahahhaha died hahaha XD

[jeandarc]

Stfu idiots, the guy bothored to write a post with more than 10 characters, unlike u uneducated fucks.

Oh and hi btw, long time no see

P.s. im back
P.p.s. i will be gone again soon
P.p.p.s. u better use thos chance to share this experience with living legend aka jeandarc

[FrostyShad]

Treant Protector

If ur team have a two or more gankers/Hight_killing_potential like a : Slark, Mortred, Huskar, Rikki , or jumpers/lotharists like a : Axe , Nevermore, Ursa and other hight mobile ganker heroes  - Rooftrellen IS A GOOD CHOICE .   And he is a second my favorite hero  
Use Living Armor skill to helping my gankers, and staying farm at bottom line with some pulling it`s a perfect tactics with my hight ping .
Skills_build is simple :  1.Living Armor 2. Leech Seed|Nature's Guise 3. Living Armor
Items_build simple too:  1. Chicken , Circle of Nobility , Trees   . 2 Radiance, but if game is hard something for team like a Mekasm . 3 . Heart of Tarasque 
But i dont know what an orb effect is usefull for this hero. 

[pHu^^thAi]

try this book

Spoiler for Hiden:

[Lagi]

Let me see whats going on here...

  +1

[CoMMoN1337]

ITT: bunch of noobs that think if they behave like cunts they'll appear to be more "pro".

this poor lil innocent guy here is trying to discuss something and you just mock him, lol.



frostyshad, if you want to improve, you first have to abaddon (abandon, i made some dota joke here hah ha so funny) your flawed fixed ideas, such as, trying to come up with some universal mega perfect item-build or skill-build or gamestyle for any hero. THERE IS NO SUCH THING.
in dota, if you want to get close to the perfect level, you have to walk into a game with the mentality that you will have to adapt, to the enemy picks, to the way they play, to the items they go for, to how your team is doing, to what allies you have, and so on.

before you will be able to get close to the perfect level though, you will first have to get far from the complete beginner level, which you currently are at.
at this level that you are at the moment, if you want to improve properly, you should PLAY, and TRY things, NOT look for some answers on some stupid ass forum like this one, because here you will either be treated by these lil cunts with cunty behaviour, or you will maybe get some stupid ideas from people who have no clue how to play which are flawed and you will move backward instead of forward.

you first have to gain some gameplay knowledge and experience, which you can only properly get from playing, and to learn the basics, the very basics, before moving to the next steps.



again, stop trying to get fed answers, and try to use ur lil brain and find them yourself, in the long run it will be better.

[FrostyShad]

ITT: bunch of noobs that think if they behave like cunts they'll appear to be more "pro".

this poor lil innocent guy here is trying to discuss something and you just mock him, lol.

Thx .  I just dont like unproductive converstions , but also i like jokes.  AND i dont like angry  aggression

Thx for ur answer , i trying to play like that .    And i wonna improve my strategy for sentinels supports  
And i`ll try to create guide for  it, for @noobs@ like me, ofcourse   

P.S.
1337 is mean "elita" i something hear about that . 

[FrostyShad]

Atropos

Many times , pro players in AP free games picking a very danger hero  - Pugna ,  so if u wonna try to counter that mage  , or other simmilar heroes - Atropos is a perfect choise !  And his incredible abillity to decrease the enemy hero damage is a perfect VS such heroes like a Legion Commander , that is a mostly standard hero at AP free games  . 
But plaing for this hero is pretty hard , he have no skills to farm creeps or push the towers so u are usefull only in ganks\deff :*(
Skills_build: 1. Brain_Sap\Nightmare    2. Brain_Sap    3. Enfeeble
Items Build : 1.If enemy team have a many harrasers , Magic Stick is useful so bying branches is a good start  . 2 Usually Ghost Stuff, Forse Staff, or other stuff if oppousing team have a invisiblers , u need a perfect artifact for this hero - Necrominomicron  . 3 Aghanim_Scepter , Black King Bar, or something to surviving

[iNevermore]

Atropos

Many times , pro players in AP free games picking a very danger hero  - Pugna ,  so if u wonna try to counter that mage  , or other simmilar heroes - Atropos is a perfect choise !  And his incredible abillity to decrease the enemy hero damage is a perfect VS such heroes like a Legion Commander , that is a mostly standard hero at AP free games  . 
But plaing for this hero is pretty hard , he have no skills to farm creeps or push the towers so u are usefull only in ganks\deff :*(
Skills_build: 1. Brain_Sap\Nightmare    2. Brain_Sap    3. Enfeeble
Items Build : 1.If enemy team have a many harrasers , Magic Stick is useful so bying branches is a good start  . 2 Usually Ghost Stuff, Forse Staff, or other stuff if oppousing team have a invisiblers , u need a perfect artifact for this hero - Necrominomicron  . 3 Aghanim_Scepter , Black King Bar, or something to surviving

HHH, anti me guide?

[Shadow]

Actually, i dont think this is meant to be real...