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Project icons (request for comments)
« on: October 21, 2019, 19:50 »
Each day at night an automated script will assign icons. Currently proposed sets:

1. Top 10 players this season
2. Top 10 upcoming players
3. Top 10 players this month
3.1 Thinking about past months also, but that means icon must include month name in the text which is a bit much
4. Every player below top 10 with at least 10? games this season receives an icon with text such as 1500, 1550, 1600, 1650.. showing the approximate PSR category. This category would have same icon just different text.

Each category will have a similarly themed icons so they look like they belong together, either by content or by color.

Attached are a few samples how text could be included in the icons. That is text showcase only, icons were randomly taken from currently available.

Comment below:
- which text sample looks the best or maybe more than one could be used, one per category. Or maybe you have your own proposal (fire up your photoshop..)
- do you think the proposed 4 categories are fine or you have a better idea
- if you have a good icon set theme in mind
- is there some better way to express the category with U1, S1, M1? Maybe U/S/M could be expressed graphically somehow and only number remains as text (with possibly a hashtag in front).


Up for debate,:
- since a lot of players have custom icons which they set via /icon command, should these ranking icons override it? Or just give the icon and player sets it if they want to? Or make it configurable on some web page? Or always set as active by default only to those who have no custom icon currently set?

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Re: Project icons (request for comments)
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 22:17 »
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Thinking about past months also, but that means icon must include month name in the text which is a bit much

As i already suggested deerloads of times and if this is not that hard (and this is really not hard), store winrate and #rank (and maybe something else) for previous seasons/months in a table, like a log. Every time when new season starts, only players with games will be processed. Should not eat a lot of storage space

So, this way we can still have information about player's brief stats anytime.

It should not affect icons idea at all, it just should be, for start, displayed on stats page, like 'Previous seasons stats'

Kind of offtopic, so just keep this idea in mind

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Top 10 upcoming players
What does it mean? :deer: Does not look informative and useful

How do you plan to handle top10 season player same top10 month player? (i mean player that belongs to >=1 categories at same time)

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Re: Project icons (request for comments)
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2019, 22:21 »
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- since a lot of players have custom icons which they set via /icon command, should these ranking icons override it? Or just give the icon and player sets it if they want to? Or make it configurable on some web page? Or always set as active by default only to those who have no custom icon currently set?

This is intuitive for me that custom /icon should always override auto icon.
When /icon is not set manually, let it be automatically assigned by new system
If this is hard to detect, whether icon is set or not, - i would create new pseudo-icon name, so when you use /icon ladder (or /icon default), it would set flag that custom icon is not set by user.
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Re: Project icons (request for comments)
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2019, 22:26 »
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Thinking about past months also, but that means icon must include month name in the text which is a bit much

As i already suggested deerloads of times and if this is not that hard (and this is really not hard), store winrate and #rank (and maybe something else) for previous seasons/months in a table, like a log. Every time when new season starts, only players with games will be processed. Should not eat a lot of storage space

So, this way we can still have information about player's brief stats anytime.

It should not affect icons idea at all, it just should be, for start, displayed on stats page, like 'Previous seasons stats'

Kind of offtopic, so just keep this idea in mind

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Top 10 upcoming players
What does it mean? :deer: Does not look informative and useful

How do you plan to handle top10 season player same top10 month player? (i mean player that belongs to >=1 categories at same time)
Yes that is completely offtopic but I agree, we will prepare such a page.

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Upcoming means "most PSR gain this month", refer to eurobattle.net sidebar for example. That is different from "top monthly player" for the obvious reason that top (season) players gain much less PSR. We currently calculate "top monthly players" by W/L ratio which is not ideal and might be tweaked some day.

Player with two icons not sure.. the easiest is to just give both icons and person can decide which one to display.
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Re: Project icons (request for comments)
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2019, 22:31 »
Also for me personally, top players of current month is obsolete and will make system harder to understand later (while there is also top players of season)
I`d simplify to only one 'line' of icons


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Re: Project icons (request for comments)
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2019, 22:33 »
The main reason to have monthly sets is so each month different players can be "top", not mostly the same people all 6 months which is what usually happens.