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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking

« on: May 26, 2021, 03:32 »

After Cen's last post about new formula on balance system, 80-20 balance game is possible again. But pro players that stack and host a 80-20 game will get no PSR. What about low players in other team, they lose the game for sure and lost 20-30 PSR?

After such a player loses enough PSR he/she would probably learn to leave such lobbies and not play them. Non-automated lobbies can't be fixed in every single way.

Yes, and we didn't need a new balance formula from this point of view.

My aim was having good games in every single match, no matter how pro or bad you are. We are all here for good game.

When it is easy to prevent stacking, by adding a stacking rule in lobby rules, I do not understand how come we get into the same point that we were 1 month ago, after all new formulas and 4 pages of topic.

Nonsense, what does it means having good games in every single match? Game quality depends on player quality, and what you are asking about imaginable stacking rule in lobby rules is just ridiculous. Stacking rule in lobby rules is your desire with the only purpose to report other players because they are going to kick you because your gaming level is bellow 1500PSR quality. To have a good game game needsa good players. Tell me if your performances in this game qualify you for good games? This is why there aregames for higher level of players and lower levels. See your performance, 1400 PSR player should play the game with his equals, and this mean to cooperate with teammates, to push and defend with team and not to game ruining like in this game where you went solo all game long and refused to play with us and to defend https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6386914

And the last to say is +0 PSR means player without benefits will not be interested in game and his teammates are going to suffer because of that. +1 and more -penalty for losing the game is motivational thing. If player can win 5 games each with 1 psr for 5 psr in total, if he lose 1 game in unbalanced game he can lose -5 for example, so as result his need is to win all the time and 1 failure means hard work and invested time in 5 games is down.

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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking

« on: May 24, 2021, 18:27 »

Nice improvement but limit can kill the game. Check for this game, 6 minutes have been lost for nothing. Both PSR Win% limiter and Win ratio% WR limiter are good to be on in case if games can start. In case where that is not possible the best option are penalties -PSR based on balance difference and individual PSR range , and ability to start the game , !votestart command in case where host is not allowed to !start. (+) and (-) PSR are must to have , with more (-) in special circumstances motivation to play can be increased.

23:52    lostrun    !rs
23:52       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1660(22% to win, WR=49%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1736(78% to win, WR=58%)
23:52    -Mars-    !r
24:00    lostrun    sorun
24:03    lostrun    iyi oyunlar
24:04    -Mars-    yok
24:06    lostrun    !start
24:06       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 56 but max allowed is 22
24:08    lostrun    !hcl ap
24:08    -Mars-    iyi oyunlar
24:11    anti_noob    !:D
24:12    YouANdme    yeni sistem:D
24:17    lostrun    hamza
24:17    lostrun    abi
24:19    -Mars-    ahahaha
24:21    XANTERIUS^    !rall
24:24    lostrun    sakin
24:25    lostrun    abi
24:25    lostrun    
24:27    lostrun    !start
24:27       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 56 but max allowed is 22
24:28    YouANdme    !rs
24:31    -Mars-    !rs
24:32    lostrun    !hcşl ap
24:32    BestMurlocPlay    ahah
24:33    lostrun    bune amk
24:35    Hamza38    sen yoksun pr yok
24:36    XANTERIUS^    !rs
24:37    BestMurlocPlay    yeni sistem izin vermiyor
24:37    lostrun    !rs
24:37       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1660(22% to win, WR=49%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1736(78% to win, WR=58%)
24:38    BestMurlocPlay    :D
24:40    lostrun    kogfhhıoh
24:42    -Mars-    asdasdasd
24:44    Hamza38    problrem yok
24:44    lostrun    nası baslıcaz smdı
24:45    YouANdme    yeni sistemde olmuo:D
24:45    BestMurlocPlay    balance yapilmadan baslanmaz diye
24:47    -Mars-    düsük accla geliyom
24:48    -Mars-    1 dk
24:50    -Mars-    slot ayır
24:53    -Mars-    gn mavi yağp
24:54    lostrun    !balance
24:54       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1698 (48% to win, avg WR=55%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1698 (52% to win, avg WR=52%)
24:54       -Mars- has left the game.
24:54       Jerazdor has joined the game.
24:54       Spoof check accepted for [Jerazdor : server.eurobattle.net].
24:54       Spoof check accepted for [Jerazdor : server.eurobattle.net].
25:01    lostrun    !open 8
25:01       Slot 8 opened
25:01       Jerazdor has left the game.
25:03    lostrun    balance olmadan
25:05    lostrun    baslamıcakmı smdı
25:08    YouANdme    yok
25:10    YouANdme    baslamio
25:13    lostrun    ozaman
25:16    lostrun    napalım
25:19    lostrun    nedşiyonuz
25:19    BestMurlocPlay    abi sanki çok iyi balance
25:19    anti_noob    kıtlw balance yaz belkı olur
25:20    BestMurlocPlay    yapiyorda
25:24    YouANdme    bestle hamzayi ayni. team yap
25:27    BestMurlocPlay    yüksek winrate si olan hep düsüklerle oluyor amk
25:27    YouANdme    halasinin ogluÇ:D
25:39       maviisakall has joined the game.
25:39       Spoof check accepted for [maviisakall : server.eurobattle.net].
25:39       Spoof check accepted for [maviisakall : server.eurobattle.net].
25:42    lostrun    !swap 2 10
25:43    maviisakall    simdi
25:43    maviisakall    :d
25:44    YouANdme    gerisi yan yana deilse
25:45    maviisakall    !rs
25:45    lostrun    !lock nuc
25:47    lostrun    !balance
25:47       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1689 (53% to win, avg WR=53%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1689 (47% to win, avg WR=54%)
25:49    YouANdme    !rs
25:50    maviisakall    abi
25:50    Hamza38    mavide olum
25:51    BestMurlocPlay    !R
26:00       [Did you know?] After Roshan has been killed, he will respawn at a random time between 8 and 11 minutes.
26:00    maviisakall    kattın karmaladın
26:00    lostrun    böyle uygunmu
26:01    Hamza38    sımdı dayımıda cagırırım
26:03    maviisakall    yok
26:04    BestMurlocPlay    hamza reis bize gel bizde oynayalim
26:06    maviisakall    owner ver
26:13    YouANdme    ya dostlar
26:14    YouANdme    olmuo
26:16    YouANdme    iste amk
26:16    lostrun    aga
26:18    lostrun    farketmez
26:20    YouANdme    yan yana degisleniz
26:21    lostrun    baslatmıyo ıste
26:21    maviisakall    abi bizi
26:23    maviisakall    bi araya
26:25    maviisakall    koyacan diye
26:26    komorisensifer    !rall
26:26    maviisakall    geldik
26:28    lostrun    tamam
26:29    YouANdme    yan yana degilseniz
26:29    maviisakall    ve o kadar
26:30    maviisakall    bekledik
26:30    YouANdme    basla
26:30    lostrun    kyoyayımda
26:34    lostrun    !swap 3 7
26:36    BestMurlocPlay    !rs
26:37    BestMurlocPlay    !r
26:39    lostrun    !swap 4 10
26:41    BestMurlocPlay    !r
26:42    lostrun    !swap 5 8
26:43    BestMurlocPlay    !rs
26:43    lostrun    !rs
26:43       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1660(27% to win, WR=49%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1717(73% to win, WR=59%)
26:43    YouANdme    !rs
26:47    YouANdme    olmuo iste
26:47    lostrun    !start
26:47       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 47 but max allowed is 22
26:49    lostrun    al amk
26:49    YouANdme    anlayin amk
26:50    lostrun    baslamıyo
26:53    maviisakall    xd
26:54    lostrun    aynen öyle
26:55    YouANdme    ya abi balance at absla
26:57    lostrun    biraz mantıklı ol
26:58    YouANdme    yoksa ciksinlar
27:06    lostrun    blaance kabul edıyosnız
27:07    maviisakall    tmm o zaman yapacak bise yok
27:09    lostrun    yoksa yapcak sıe yok
27:11    maviisakall    babamla beni aynı takıma
27:11    lostrun    !balance
27:11       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1689 (53% to win, avg WR=53%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1689 (47% to win, avg WR=54%)
27:14    Hamza38    locklayıp balance omuomu
27:15    lostrun    en iyi böyle
27:18    lostrun    furkan sadece
27:19    lostrun    karsıda kalıyo
27:19    BestMurlocPlay    xant ve ben ayni
27:20    BestMurlocPlay    olalim
27:21    YouANdme    hamza ebemin torunu
27:24    maviisakall    bestmurlocplay xanterşus
27:26    maviisakall    aynı tkıma
27:28    BestMurlocPlay    lan iz çünkü
27:29    lostrun    !swap 3 7
27:30    lostrun    !rs
27:30       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1667(32% to win, WR=52%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(68% to win, WR=56%)
27:30    BestMurlocPlay    LAN
27:31    lostrun    !start
27:31       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 35 but max allowed is 22
27:34    maviisakall    aahahaha
27:34    YouANdme    
27:34    lostrun    !swap 3 7
27:37    maviisakall    aahahahaha
27:38    YouANdme    alicam si,mdi amk
27:38    lostrun    olmuyo
27:38    YouANdme    .D
27:39    lostrun    bebegım
27:40    lostrun    xd
27:41    BestMurlocPlay    ver bana
27:43    komorisensifer    4 7 5 9
27:43    BestMurlocPlay    hostlugu
27:46    maviisakall    gülme kirizi tuttu
27:47    maviisakall    !rs
27:47    YouANdme    ver owner beste
27:51    lostrun    !swap 3 8
27:52    lostrun    !rs
27:52       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1667(32% to win, WR=51%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(68% to win, WR=57%)
27:53    maviisakall    !rs
27:54    lostrun    !balance
27:54       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1689 (53% to win, avg WR=53%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1689 (47% to win, avg WR=54%)
27:56    maviisakall    !rall
27:57    lostrun    !owner best
27:57       Setting game owner to [BestMurlocPlay].
27:58    lostrun    al aga
27:59    lostrun    napcan
27:59    BestMurlocPlay    !rall
27:59       BestMurlocPlay (PSR=1835, WR=60%), XANTERIUS^ (PSR=1823, WR=70%), Hamza38 (PSR=1768, WR=53%), lostrun (PSR=1732, WR=49%), No_LiFeR_xD (PSR=1729, WR=53%), anti_noob (PSR=1726, WR=47%), YouANdme (PSR=1650, WR=54%), maviisakall (PSR=1644, WR=63%), komorisen
28:00       [Did you know?] Being top 10 on the ladder confirms that you have become a pro player.
28:04    maviisakall    nolifer al
28:05    YouANdme    ver bi bakalim adama
28:06    BestMurlocPlay    !swap 3 7
28:06    BestMurlocPlay    !rs
28:06       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1667(32% to win, WR=52%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(68% to win, WR=56%)
28:09    lostrun    benden farklı bıse yap helal dıyecem
28:09    YouANdme    bi bildigi var galibaÇD
28:13    maviisakall    aahahahaa
28:14    BestMurlocPlay    senin arkadas nucies
28:14    maviisakall    !rs
28:14    BestMurlocPlay    demi
28:14    komorisensifer    !rs
28:17    lostrun    evet
28:18    BestMurlocPlay    !rall
28:18       BestMurlocPlay (PSR=1835, WR=60%), XANTERIUS^ (PSR=1823, WR=70%), Hamza38 (PSR=1768, WR=53%), lostrun (PSR=1732, WR=49%), No_LiFeR_xD (PSR=1729, WR=53%), anti_noob (PSR=1726, WR=47%), YouANdme (PSR=1650, WR=54%), maviisakall (PSR=1644, WR=63%), komorisen
28:26    BestMurlocPlay    yapilabilcek en fazlasi bu
28:29    BestMurlocPlay    basliyorum
28:29    komorisensifer    4 7 and 5 9
28:29    YouANdme    amk benim su dotada bir kere arkim olmadi
28:33    lostrun    !rs
28:34    BestMurlocPlay    !start
28:34       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 35 but max allowed is 22
28:36    lostrun    kardesım
28:37    lostrun    baslamıyo ıste
28:38    YouANdme    
28:39    XANTERIUS^    !rall
28:39    YouANdme    
28:39    lostrun    32 68
28:43    YouANdme    durun guleyim az
28:44    BestMurlocPlay    mavi
28:45    XANTERIUS^    !rs
28:46    BestMurlocPlay    yüksek accla
28:46    BestMurlocPlay    gel
28:47    BestMurlocPlay    baslayalim
28:50    maviisakall    tmm
28:50    BestMurlocPlay    balance olur
28:53       maviisakall has left the game.
28:56    XANTERIUS^    !rall
29:02       [fixe]fixe has joined the game.
29:02       Spoof check accepted for [[fixe]fixe : server.eurobattle.net].
29:02       Spoof check accepted for [[fixe]fixe : server.eurobattle.net].
29:02    YouANdme    best bugun oyun aldinmi?
29:06    BestMurlocPlay    !open 5
29:06       Slot 5 opened
29:06       [fixe]fixe has left the game.
29:12    BestMurlocPlay    2 günde sadece 1 oyun alabildim oda zorzoruna
29:15    BestMurlocPlay    13 oyunda 12 lose
29:21    lostrun    benımde 10 oyunda
29:23       -Mars- has joined the game.
29:23       Spoof check accepted for [-Mars- : server.eurobattle.net].
29:23       Spoof check accepted for [-Mars- : server.eurobattle.net].
29:24    lostrun    6 lose 4 win
29:26    BestMurlocPlay    !rs
29:26       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1686(39% to win, WR=51%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(61% to win, WR=56%)
29:27    lostrun    !Rs
29:28    BestMurlocPlay    !start
29:28       Players not yet pinged 3 times: -Mars-
29:32    BestMurlocPlay    !start
29:32       Players not yet pinged 3 times: -Mars-
29:34    -Mars-    bi zahmet
29:35    BestMurlocPlay    !start
29:35       Game is starting, game mode is set to [ap].
29:35       10. . .
29:36       9. . .
29:36    -Mars-    baslasın
29:36       8. . .
29:37       7. . .
29:37       6. . .
29:38       5. . .
29:38       4. . .
29:39    lostrun    boyle artık
29:39       3. . .
29:40       2. . .
29:40       1. . .
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6388359

18

Ban Requests / IP ban game ruining ban avoiding

« on: May 23, 2021, 23:48 »

1: Your NickName?
komorisensifer

2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
black_sk
itzflyboy  dobriisak  alex_d12  gokibizgov  kovo

3: What rule did he/they break?
black_sk - heavy game ruining and refusal to participate in game , never helped team , ignored to defend towers and base and ban avoiding ban on 8black8

itzflyboy  dobriisak  alex_d12  gokibizgov  kovo  - refusing to kick game ruining player, taken opportunity to get advantage from situation and to win the game versus superior team

4: When was the Rule Broken?
22:46       [All]    [kovo]ALEX_D12 killed black_sk
22:50    black_sk    [Allies]    rly ? b ?
23:04    black_sk    [Allies]    i am woods till end
23:07    black_sk    [Allies]    -gg
24:54       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov killed komorisensifer
25:00    komorisensifer    [Allies]    def base
25:01       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov destroyed the bottom level 3 Scourge tower
25:09       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov destroyed the bottom Scourge melee rax
25:13    black_sk    [Allies]    go lose nabs
25:13       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov destroyed the bottom Scourge ranged rax
25:21    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !sd black
25:29       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov destroyed the mid level 2 Scourge tower
25:30       [All]    [kovo]ALEX_D12 killed Robert_Me_Diro
25:34       [All]    [kovo]ATZuken killed iTzFlyboy
25:40       [All]    [kovo]ATZuken killed DobriIsak
25:41    komorisensifer    [All]    can we kick crix
25:43       [All]    [kovo]The Scourge killed GokiBizgov
25:47    komorisensifer    [All]    he refuses to play
25:50       [All]    [kovo]dajle killed ALEX_D12
25:56       [All]    [kovo]kovo killed ATZuken
25:57    DobriIsak    [Allies]    rly bad
25:59    DobriIsak    [Allies]    its ok
26:03       [All]    [kovo]komorisensifer killed kovo
26:07    ATZuken    [Allies]    crix
26:11    ATZuken    [Allies]    why dont u come
26:20    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !votekick black
26:20       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [black_sk] [1/6]
26:25    komorisensifer    [All]    go kick
26:27    iTzFlyboy    [Allies]    mnoguuuuuuuuuuuuu
26:27    komorisensifer    [All]    he is woods
26:27    black_sk    [Allies]    cause you are fucking watchers
26:27    ATZuken    [Allies]    !yes
26:27       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to kick [black_sk] [2/7]
26:28    iTzFlyboy    [All]    ?
26:30    iTzFlyboy    [All]    |?
26:30    komorisensifer    [All]    wont play with us
26:34    iTzFlyboy    [All]    why
26:35    komorisensifer    [All]    please kick
26:35    ATZuken    [All]    dont defend
26:37    iTzFlyboy    [All]    it is over
26:37    komorisensifer    [All]    he is woods
26:40    komorisensifer    [All]    wont defend
26:41    iTzFlyboy    [All]    ?
26:44    komorisensifer    [All]    it is not over
26:46    iTzFlyboy    [All]    it is good player
26:48    komorisensifer    [All]    please vote
26:49    iTzFlyboy    [All]    why kick
26:50    komorisensifer    [All]    or ban
26:55    Robert_Me_Diro    [Allies]    !yes
26:55       [All]    [Robert_Me_Diro] voted to kick [black_sk] [3/7]
26:56    ATZuken    [All]    refuse to def crix
26:58    ATZuken    [All]    really
26:58    iTzFlyboy    [All]    lock you kombo 0
26:59    komorisensifer    [All]    go vote all
27:01    iTzFlyboy    [All]    player is goood
27:06    iTzFlyboy    [All]    play
27:07    komorisensifer    [All]    and your ban is good
27:11    komorisensifer    [All]    go kick him
27:12    iTzFlyboy    [All]    y
27:16    komorisensifer    [All]    he is woods and not defending
27:26    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !votekick black
27:26       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [black_sk] [1/6]
27:28    ATZuken    [Allies]    !yes
27:28       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to kick [black_sk] [2/7]
27:29    GokiBizgov    [Allies]    goi mid
27:31    ATZuken    [All]    kick really
27:35    ATZuken    [All]    do not come
27:37    komorisensifer    [Allies]    go kick all
27:40    komorisensifer    [All]    go kick all
27:41    black_sk    [All]    theese guys dont kwno element of dota ...but what is worst...they cant even listen
28:07    ATZuken    [Allies]    crix aloo
28:08    ATZuken    [Allies]    !f
28:13    komorisensifer    [All]    go kick game ruiner
28:17    dajle    [Allies]    !yes
28:17       [All]    [dajle] voted to kick [black_sk] [3/7]
28:19    black_sk    [Allies]    !f
28:21    ATZuken    [All]    ALOO
28:22    ATZuken    [All]    KICK
28:25       [All]    A votekick against player [black_sk] has expired.
28:26    ATZuken    [All]    HE S NOT COME
28:28    Robert_Me_Diro    [Allies]    !yes
28:28    ATZuken    [All]    
28:30    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !votekick black
28:30       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [black_sk] [1/6]
28:33    ATZuken    [Allies]    !yes
28:33       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to kick [black_sk] [2/7]
28:39    ATZuken    [All]    MAN
28:45       [All]    [kovo]kovo killed Robert_Me_Diro
28:55    black_sk    [Allies]    !FF
28:55       [All]    [black_sk] voted to forfeit [1/5 Scourge]
28:58       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov killed ATZuken
28:58    Robert_Me_Diro    [Allies]    !ff
28:58       [All]    [Robert_Me_Diro] voted to forfeit [2/5 Scourge]
29:01    ATZuken    [All]    fu all
29:02       [All]    [kovo]iTzFlyboy destroyed the mid level 3 Scourge tower
29:04    ATZuken    [All]    losers
29:30    ATZuken    [Allies]    fool crix
29:31       [All]    [kovo]komorisensifer killed ALEX_D12
29:35    ATZuken    [Allies]    u fucked up
29:44    black_sk    [Allies]    _D_D_ D
29:44    ATZuken    [Allies]    TRASH DOG
29:47    ATZuken    [Allies]    WHAT U LOOK
29:50       [All]    [kovo]GokiBizgov killed dajle
29:51    ATZuken    [Allies]    OMG
:57    black_sk    [Allies]    ofc black turk
30:03    black_sk    [Allies]    stupid gipsy
30:06    ATZuken    [Allies]    WHERE U FROM TRASH COUNTRY
30:12    ATZuken    [Allies]    COME TURKEY IF U CAN
30:14    ATZuken    [Allies]    TRASH DOG
30:29    ATZuken    [Allies]    FUCKIN BANANA COUNTRY SK
30:32    black_sk    [Allies]    i was in turkey..last time...
30:36    ATZuken    [Allies]    FUCK OFF
30:38    ATZuken    [Allies]    !ignore black
30:38       [All]    [kovo]Robert_Me_Diro killed iTzFlyboy
30:39    black_sk    [Allies]    no more
30:50    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !votekick black
30:50       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [black_sk] [1/6]
30:54    dajle    [Allies]    !yes
30:54       [All]    [dajle] voted to kick [black_sk] [2/7]
31:02    black_sk    [All]    kick me pls...they are too retarded
31:07    iTzFlyboy    [Allies]    ok go kick
31:08    iTzFlyboy    [Allies]    alll
31:09    iTzFlyboy    [Allies]    4!yes
31:11    iTzFlyboy    [Allies]    !yes
31:11       [All]    [iTzFlyboy] voted to kick [black_sk] [3/7]
31:13    ATZuken    [Allies]    FUCKIN BRAINLESS
31:14    ATZuken    [Allies]    !yes
31:14       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to kick [black_sk] [4/7]
31:20    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !yes
31:24    komorisensifer    [All]    !yes
31:49       [All]    A votekick against player [black_sk] has expired.
31:56    black_sk    [All]    3more pls..i swear i wont post ban request ..just kick me....i dont wanna spent more time with theese nabs
32:15       [All]    [kovo]dajle killed iTzFlyboy
32:18    ATZuken    [Allies]    b
32:18    ATZuken    [Allies]    def
32:19    ATZuken    [Allies]    wt
32:20    ATZuken    [Allies]    f
32:41    ATZuken    [All]    u all shit
32:44    komorisensifer    [All]    ban after game
33:31    ATZuken    [Allies]    !votekick black
33:31       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to kick [black_sk] [1/6]
33:31       [All]    Type !yes to vote.
33:33    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !yes
33:33       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [black_sk] [2/7]
33:38    Robert_Me_Diro    [Allies]    !yes
33:38       [All]    [Robert_Me_Diro] voted to kick [black_sk] [3/7]
35:31    ATZuken    [Allies]    !ff
35:31       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to forfeit [3/5 Scourge]
35:34    ATZuken    [Allies]    fuck u all
35:39    ATZuken    [Allies]    !votekick sk
35:39       [All]    [ATZuken] voted to kick [black_sk] [1/6]
35:42    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !yes
35:42       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [black_sk] [2/7]
36:38       [All]    A votekick against player [black_sk] has expired.
36:56    ATZuken    [Allies]    why defend
36:59    ATZuken    [Allies]    leave its over
37:00    ATZuken    [Allies]    fuck this
37:04       [All]    [kovo]The Sentinel killed komorisensifer
37:11    ATZuken    [Allies]    leave it
37:15    ATZuken    [Allies]    let finish
37:17    ATZuken    [Allies]    fuck this
37:18    ATZuken    [Allies]    sk

5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
For all game long duration user black_sk has been participated in not more than 2 or 3 actions in total and that was after we lost all the towers and rax so he can get kills with radiance and Sand King ulti. After bad start, our team managed to take control over the game and in the most crucial moments black_sk let us to fight without him. When sentinel team pushed down , this player told us he want to lose the game and we are going to lose it , without reason , without any provocation from other teammates he just left us. After many attempts to kick him from the game , Sentinel team refused to vote and especially iTzFlyboy who made jokes out from our situation and who died over 7 times in short time in late game. Others completely ignored our problem.
See his ban on 8black8
The player's ban will expire in 2 days and 19 hours.
Player was banned for [1 weeks and 3 days] by [Caneee] on [16-05-2021 19:16:56] with reason [Game Ruining] in game [SD v6 ++2].
Request: https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,199845.0.html
Please give IP ban , game is for players to play and not for people like him who are not here to play the game. Long history on his name.

6: Link of the game? (if applies),
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6389668

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Ban Requests / Ban

« on: May 21, 2021, 02:29 »

1: Your NickName?
komorisensifer

2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
Gringo
LovableRascal
Sentinel team

3: What rule did he/they break?
Gringo - game ruining / Refusing to play / AFK / Intentional Feeding
LovableRascal - game ruining / Refusing to play / AFK / Sabotaging Teammates
Sentinel team - Refusing to Votekick

4: When was the Rule Broken?
15:03    LovableRascal    [Allies]    -gg
17:02    komorisensifer    [Allies]    ursa if you stop wasting your time on arguing we could still have some chance
17:11    Gringo    [Allies]    0 chance
17:12    LovableRascal    [Allies]    nah
17:16    Gringo    [Allies]    ff it
17:18    LovableRascal    [Allies]    0 chance
17:25    LovableRascal    [Allies]    look
17:27    LovableRascal    [Allies]    how to play
17:32    LovableRascal    [Allies]    with these players
19:17    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -afk
19:46    Gringo    [Allies]    !ff
19:49    Gringo    [Allies]    -gg
20:11    Gringo    [Allies]    ff it
20:17    Rage_Of_Titans    [Allies]    !ignore grin
20:21    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -afk
20:33    Rage_Of_Titans    [Allies]    i wil report him dont worry
20:34    LovableRascal    [Allies]    e so vakvi jas stalno igram zato i scorot takov mi e
20:35    Rage_Of_Titans    [Allies]    for afk
20:55    Gringo    [Allies]    better afk then die every time they see me
21:04       [All]    [komorisensifer]Ayd.Mev killed LovableRascal
21:07    Gringo    [Allies]    its over
21:17    komorisensifer    [Allies]    go leave then
21:24    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -afk
21:26    LovableRascal    [Allies]    im afk too
21:27    LovableRascal    [Allies]   
21:30    Gringo    [Allies]    there is -gg
21:32    Gringo    [Allies]    option
21:36    Gringo    [Allies]    so you finish the game
21:38    Gringo    [Allies]    and no ban
21:45    Gringo    [Allies]    its a loss
21:46       [All]    [komorisensifer]Rage_Of_Titans killed Ayd.Mev
21:58    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -afk
22:02    LovableRascal    [Allies]    mrdaj ako ne mrdas so mousot posle 2 min afk te kazva - move mouse if you not move afk will show after 2 min
22:05    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -kickafk 2
22:05    LovableRascal    [Allies]    mozat da te kiknat - and team can kick you
22:16    Rage_Of_Titans    [Allies]    !votekick gring
22:16       [All]    [Rage_Of_Titans] voted to kick [Gringo] [1/6]
22:18    Rage_Of_Titans    [All]    afk
22:20    Rage_Of_Titans    [All]    pls all yes
22:20    LovableRascal    [Allies]    ejjj
22:22    Rage_Of_Titans    [All]    i wil report after
22:23    Ayd.Mev    [All]    its normal
22:25    Ayd.Mev    [All]    go ff
22:30    LovableRascal    [Allies]    a ova izleglo
22:33       [All]    [komorisensifer]komorisensifer killed Ortripo
22:35    LovableRascal    [Allies]    za kikanje
22:36    Gringo    [All]    they dont get it
22:37    Rage_Of_Titans    [All]    dont worry
22:38    Gringo    [All]    its over
23:17    LovableRascal    [All]    he is idiot just mute chat and go finish
23:23    KushLemon    [Allies]    !muteall
23:23       [All]    Global chat muted (allied and private chat is unaffected).
24:05    Rage_Of_Titans    [Allies]    -kickafk 2
24:05       [All]    Gringo has left the game voluntarily, Gringo was autobanned.
24:05       [All]    Autoban is ON, if you leave you will get autobanned.
24:23    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -kickafk 1
24:26    komorisensifer    [Allies]    -afk
24:30    LovableRascal    [Allies]    nop you cant kick me
24:44       [All]    [Rage_Of_Titans]Ayd.Mev killed LovableRascal
26:03    komorisensifer    [Allies]    i win alone this
26:10    LovableRascal    [Allies]    nop you will not
29:02    LovableRascal    [Allies]    !ff
29:02       [All]    [LovableRascal] voted to forfeit [1/4 Scourge]
29:13    komorisensifer    [Allies]    !votekick lova
29:13       [All]    [komorisensifer] voted to kick [LovableRascal] [1/5]
32:50       [All]    [Rage_Of_Titans]The Frozen Throne is now at 10% HP

5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
After Akasha (gringo) failed middle, Akasha went to fountain and moved around fountain until final kick for afk. Once when afk clock granted command to -kickafk , Akasha teleported down and sent hero to die on purpose. Ursa (lovablerascal) went to fountain almost the same time Akasha did, and wanted to sabotage team. Last 15 minutes of the game all what this player did was farming neutrals or fighting with teammates for creeps to ensure final game result. We still had chance to prolong the game, 3 of us stopped our opponents for few minutes. And everything was possible if Ursa at least tried to help or if he left the game but no, see his words he told us he won't let to be kicked for afk and every of his moves was to make game harder for team. Team tried to kick him, and Ursa asked for !muteall, Sentinel team refused communication.

6: Link of the game? (if applies),
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6388867