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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 10, 2021, 23:48 »
An idea: Excessive stacking in games is not allowed (repetitively swapping players after balance, locking new players in the opposite team,etc).

It will be up to the mod/admin to decide whether a host is stacking or not based on many factors and lobbies. Unfortunately, for every more specific rule/or bot changes I can think of problems tthat appear. I think the b&u staff can use its judgment to identify the problematic lobbies.

What do you all think of a generic rule that prohibits excessive stacking? I havent discuss it with cen but the punishment could potentially be lose of host priveleges. For example, if a player is identified as repetitive stacker he will lose his privilege to host for 1 week/1month etc.

(repetitively swapping players after balance, locking new players in the opposite team,etc) and locking low players/high players in same team...

Removing hosting rights might be good, but that means stackers can still play games as guest. What about, banning him at first-second time and removing hosting rights+ban for 3rd time?   

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General Discussions / Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 08, 2021, 13:31 »
After iErnesto94's last message on a locked topic, I suggest adding a rule and a sanction for stacking. There will not be a command, or auto balance check before the game starts but just like other rules, stacking will be reported if a player thinks that stacking ruined the game. Then, B&U admins check if there is a stacking.

If you play a stacking game with all your friends (I mean 10 players are friends or sth), or if a team intentionally wants to play vs stackers then nobody will report it.

In addition, stacking is not only about PSR. Some new accounts do not have high PSR but very good stats (like 13/2/8) and locking these players is also stacking. We need to add KDA stacking because players can create new accounts just to avoid stacking.

It is just adding a line in lobby rules.

 

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Most of the players think it is good idea. It does not change anything. Plus, now we have a stacker in administration.

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https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6383810

97-3 balance game. 2 players got banned. Very fair, right?

I am glad we have a good server.

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General Discussions / Re: If you can't beat them, join them
« on: April 30, 2021, 20:10 »
Ahahahah I never thought I would support Tooshade, but this is good move.

You should be a master...
@[Dis]Kealthas

06:45   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 5 8
06:47   [Dis]Kealthas   !start
06:47      Game is starting, game mode is set to [ap].

19:21      Sentinel avg. PSR: 1629(75% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1623(25% to win)
19:25   [Dis]Kealthas   go
19:25   [Dis]Kealthas   go
19:26   [Dis]Kealthas   go
19:26   [Dis]Kealthas   go
19:27   [Dis]Kealthas   go go

08:27   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 9 4
08:30   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

08:20   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 4 6
08:31   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

03:49   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 2 7
03:55   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

17:13   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 4 6
17:19   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

07:39   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 3 10
07:42   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

22:25   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 4 6
22:35   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

05:34   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 8 2
05:37   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

15:00   [Dis]Kealthas   !swap 3 10
15:08   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

17:43      Sentinel avg. PSR: 1758(83% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1666(17% to win)
17:58   GrowthHacker   !start

03:05      Sentinel avg. PSR: 1602(70% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1599(30% to win)
03:16   Sniper   !start

02:22      Sentinel avg. PSR: 1762(72% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1738(28% to win)
02:35   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

08:54   [Dis]Kealthas   !balance
08:54      Sentinel avg. PSR: 1664(69% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1652(31% to win)
09:03   [Dis]Kealthas   !start

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Ban Requests / false votekick
« on: April 30, 2021, 01:43 »
locknatter
itsmanu jumali deynro anti_noob
They kicked me without a reason
I was kicked in 23th minute. Until that time, my team was very toxic to me. You can see it, they wanted to kick me sone more time(21:10) they messaged me, checked my SD, telling me what to do etc (19:05, 21:31).

I participated ganks, used my track all the time, and was trying to farm a bit because I got no items in 20 min. I died 3 times, 2 of them was gank. I did not feed, I did not go woods like deynro. I gave Witch doctor 2 kills with my ulti. I think I was kicked just because they are friends.

If it is enough for kicking, we had to kick doctor for not waiting me (16:15), naix for farming endlessly in woods (jumali   [Allies]   stop wood) and earthshaker for killing NCs near me when I almost killed nevermore, their best player (07:15)

I can understand being kicked from game if I joined pro game and feed, but they are not good players, they are just toxic.

In case of no ban, I want my PSR back please.

Other team just approved my team's decision, my team voted to kick me first.  That's why I want to report my team only.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6382880

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Ban Requests / ban plsnoban..
« on: April 23, 2021, 22:07 »
locknatter
plsnoban..
family related flame
19:58   PlsNoBan..   [Allies]   !ignore lock
20:01      [All]   [TAIGERE]Best.MiranA killed Why_AlwaysME^^
20:02   PlsNoBan..   [Allies]   anası sikik noob seni

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6381351

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General Discussions / Re: If you can't beat them, join them
« on: April 23, 2021, 19:48 »
I got a topic about stacking and almost everyone accepted that stacking ruins the game.

There are sanctions for situations that means ruining of the game and I wonder why we still do not have a rule about stacking. Updating rules document has to be easy...

btw, we can have a poll to see if the community supports stacking or not.
Then I am one of them who disagrees with the idea. I think playing against stacked team is a challenge and sometimes it becomes very cool game to play compared to normal RD 1600++ PRoOoOo games. (I have to mention that even those players who stack, sucks so it doesn't make any difference to me xd)

As about giving sanction for stacking. Idk, I am not aware of such rule in any kind of game, not only in MOBA.

I am kindly inviting you to deer your opponents !

I am not talking about auto-balance. like @ksv said, some players really like to play vs stackers. You can keep playing vs them and if nobody reports the stacking, nobody gets a ban.

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General Discussions / Re: If you can't beat them, join them
« on: April 23, 2021, 01:26 »
No, to make it work admins need to create it.

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General Discussions / Re: If you can't beat them, join them
« on: April 22, 2021, 23:01 »
I got a topic about stacking and almost everyone accepted that stacking ruins the game.

There are sanctions for situations that means ruining of the game and I wonder why we still do not have a rule about stacking. Updating rules document has to be easy...

btw, we can have a poll to see if the community supports stacking or not.   

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Ban Requests / ban 1toughbastard
« on: April 18, 2021, 17:08 »
locknatter
1toughbastard
national intolerance
21:34   1toughbastard   [Allies]   turkish normal;
21:39   1toughbastard   [Allies]   they are all stupid
21:46   locknatter   [Allies]   hmm racism
22:01   1toughbastard   [Allies]   spetualy for u nation y
22:03   locknatter   [Allies]   i love racists
22:11   1toughbastard   [Allies]   u r total trash on this world

34:17   1toughbastard   [Allies]   turkish are most stupid nation ever

a typical "50-50 balanced" game with end score 42-10. He is angry with me because we lost.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6379918

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Ban Requests / ban fragile^
« on: April 10, 2021, 17:45 »
neleroluyor
fragile^
game ruin
around 38:30
I was playing windrunner and could not farm because we were very active in ganking. I had maelstorm and almost finished desolator. I used my ulti to kill ancient creeps to finish my desolator but pitlord (farmed like hell) came and killed my ancients. If I had that creeps I would be going back to base and get deso. I could not finish my deso, we could not def our base (I was the only one who had def items) and lost 2 rax in 2 minutes.   

I remember someone was banned just because he killed another player's nc. Normally I do not report sth like this but that stealing was really crucial.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6377557

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Turkey / Re: v7 harita sorunu
« on: April 06, 2021, 21:02 »
Eurobattle sitesinde var hepsi. Installer ve maps altında.

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Turkey / Re: v7 harita sorunu
« on: April 04, 2021, 10:24 »
Oyun versiyonunun yanlış olabilir. Patch vb de yüklenmesi gerekiyor. Gproxy de yüklemen lazım.

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Unban Requests / unban locknater
« on: March 29, 2021, 20:44 »
locknater
Caneee
game ruining - refusing to play
Invert played a selfish game as usual, kurtamivki wanted to farm bot line with naix, not going woods. I was carry with gyro and did not have any creep kill bot line. Check my kill count in 15 min.
02:13   kurtamivki   [Allies]   let me farm bro
02:17   locknater   [Allies]   woods
02:17   kurtamivki   [Allies]   just harras them

Admiral left and naix stole his boots instead of selling them.

17:19   locknater   [Allies]   naix man
17:22   itzflyboy   [Allies]   4 ward
17:22   jupendi2   [Allies]   y
17:23   itzflyboy   [Allies]   have
17:24   jupendi2   [Allies]   :)
17:25   locknater   [Allies]   you stole everything
17:32   locknater   [Allies]   farm+kunkka items
17:38   locknater   [Allies]   this is team game
17:41   Invert   [Allies]   he is naix... are you gonna carry as gyro? :)
17:47   Invert   [Allies]   try your best to ward and hope we can win...

And Invert told me that I need to buy wards as carry, right after I helped him to have 2 kills...

I tried to Ward but they all left me alone and here is the result. I died in warding.
23:19      [All]   [D.L]SRB[in] killed locknater

23:30   locknater   [Allies]   since i cant go warding
23:32   locknater   [Allies]   i go farm

This part is important, I told him that this is team game and he wants to win 3v5. But when he report me he didn't show below lines
18:03   locknater   [Allies]   gyro is carry
18:07   locknater   [Allies]   and he is usable
18:09   locknater   [Allies]   in your ganks
18:14   locknater   [Allies]   just like last time


But he only showed this line
36:21   locknater   [Allies]   again trying to win 3v5

He tried to manipulate admins and he succeeded. I got ban.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6373978



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