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General Discussions / Re: New System Complain
« on: June 05, 2021, 22:13 »
I do not understand. You say you play for the first 3 and that's why you keep playing with your friends(!). Your competitors in top 10 do not play with friends and you want to take their positions by playing 99-1 balance games.

How on hell do you consider yourself as a good player, when you play highly advantageous games just to be in the top 3?

The aim of this new balance system was not to stop you from playing but to be honest, I believe it is good if it stops players hosting bullshit games just to have PSR.


Well I don't play for fun or for wasting time this is sure.

I play for top 10, or better top 3 when is possible, but I don't find a valid motivation to bring anti-friend lobbies and +0 which it brings to leave the game and unistall it. Go see on other games like all players boost PSR / or POINTS / Points Per Minute (Depends by game) with friends, it's normal, games are so dude.

Starting to say 1800+ players should play One Man Army, I don't like play with randoms because most of the time they are a bunch of brainless, and I don't want even bother with one of them.

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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 30, 2021, 19:11 »
I agree with you ilikedat, but I mean there are very good players with low PSRs. Especially when they create new accounts.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6390204

This one is better example. He was in sentinel, teaming up with the highest PSR in that game.  Maybe all 1600+ needed to play against him.

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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 30, 2021, 17:50 »

I am willing to experiment with adding KDA into the mix but as a starting point, I need to see a lobby where:
- A: the balance formula says the game is balanced, but it is actually not, here is why..

Here it is. Nr94 had almost new account with very good stats. Game was balanced.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6390222

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Ban Requests / Re: ban mindcontrol russian-mafia
« on: May 27, 2021, 00:38 »
They didn't play from the beginning.

02:07   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   feeding tine
04:10   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   15 gg


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Ban Requests / ban mindcontrol russian-mafia
« on: May 26, 2021, 21:59 »
locknatter
mindcontrol   russian-mafia
game ruin

02:07   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   feeding tine
04:10   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   15 gg
08:55   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   3 0
08:58   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   RETARDS
09:06   MindControl   [Allies]   4 0 ke e sega
16:13   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   i dont want win
16:35   Russian-Mafia   [Allies]   i just wait 15 for -gg

Not farming, telling us to go FF in 15 mins. Lich using ulti on creeps (around 18:00). Not having an item (magnus got only boots in 20th minute). They accept the loss from the beginning.

This is also another example of bad game. I lost 17 PSR because I got 1450. I played good, did my items, warded etc. But Lich and Magnus got 1650+ PSRS, they made the balance and lost only 3 PSR with zero effect in game.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6390395



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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 26, 2021, 15:29 »
Thats why I offered to add a rule, instead of changing balance commands. It works really simple, high psrs can play in every game and if host stack a few hgh psrs (or new accounts with good kda numbers) on his team and if this is not a friend game, then it can be bannable. It is not a mandatory command, it is open for admins evaluation, just like other rules.

This solution is not blocking anyone from playling  in games, it does not need any new commands. It is a practical solution for everyone.

Actually, this topic was opened for the discussion of adding a rule to lobby rules but it changed to our new balance system. Can we talk about my first offer? Do you think there is a problem in implementing such a rule?

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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 26, 2021, 10:36 »
Well, this is a direct insult and I am not going to start a conversation on it. You can still use a report for me, if you think I was the sole reason of or loss. You can see the chatlog in same link, and what happened really.

But thank you for giving a good example of bad game. As you see, this game is balanced because both teams have high PSR players. 1675 psr carry played 2-11, while 1665 psr on other team played 12-0. That caused the game to end in 30 mins. According to your idea, that 1675 had to play vey good and low players in his team had to ruin that game?

Playing with players in your level is an option, but in order to improve your skills you need to play with pros. Thats why there are many mixed games. Yes, I am also looking to balance them instead of blaming players.

I agree game quality depends on player level and psr balance theorically puts pros and noobs in same team. Some players really ruins games, like rage quitting, selling items, sabotaging teammates and they got a ban for that. But players with low skills, not having an intention of ruining the game can benefit from mixed games. If you like, you can see many games in my account, where I played like 1700  PSR with my “1400 psr” account, and lost games because real 1700 PSR played bad. This is a result of having mixed games and learning  how to play.

Kicking players out of the game is not my interest. Hosts are responsible for their games and they can kick anyone. Personally, when I host a mid quality game, I kick players with very good KDA just to have a good game. Many hosts lock them in their team to have easy psr. It is completely up to host.

And please express your opinions without blaming anyone if you want to discuss on a topic.

And finally as a reply of your first question, good game means a 50+min, same level of kills, 2nd level towers destroyed and team played game to me.


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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 26, 2021, 00:45 »
After Cen's last post about new formula on balance system, 80-20 balance game is possible again. But pro players that stack and host a 80-20 game will get no PSR. What about low players in other team, they lose the game for sure and lost 20-30 PSR?
After such a player loses enough PSR he/she would probably learn to leave such lobbies and not play them. Non-automated lobbies can't be fixed in every single way.

Yes, and we didn't need a new balance formula from this point of view.

My aim was having good games in every single match, no matter how pro or bad you are. We are all here for good game.

When it is easy to prevent stacking, by adding a stacking rule in lobby rules, I do not understand how come we get into the same point that we were 1 month ago, after all new formulas and 4 pages of topic.

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General Discussions / Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 25, 2021, 22:09 »
After Cen's last post about new formula on balance system, 80-20 balance game is possible again. But pro players that stack and host a 80-20 game will get no PSR. What about low players in other team, they lose the game for sure and lost 20-30 PSR?

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Ban Requests / ban dark-crawler
« on: May 25, 2021, 21:15 »
locknatter
dark-crawler
family related flame
41:20        DARK-crawler   [Allies]   amına kodum cocu - son of a bitch
42:08   locknatter   [Allies]   ben mi feedledim? - who fed him?
42:13   DARK-crawler   [Allies]   anan - your mom
43:23   DARK-crawler   [Allies]   oc - son of a bitch

He blames me for refusing to def, I def for 35 mins but they were overfed, game ended in 41 mins.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6390144


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Unban Requests / unban
« on: May 23, 2021, 11:51 »
locknatter
autoban
internet problems
I got war3.exe error, game crushed.
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6389466

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Ban Requests / ban -merlin
« on: May 22, 2021, 20:50 »
locknatter
-merlin
family related flame
17:54   -merlin   [Allies]   girsene
17:55   -merlin   [Allies]   aptal
17:57   -merlin   [Allies]   oruıspu
17:57   -merlin   [Allies]   cocugu (go you fucking son of a bitch)
19:01   locknatter   [Allies]   ozu dilemek icin 2 dakikan var (you got 2 mins to apologise)
19:07   -merlin   [Allies]   ananı allahını sikerim (fuck your mother and your god)

My spell was on cd and he flamed me.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6389347

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Turkey / Re: Regards
« on: May 13, 2021, 22:26 »
Thx dude

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Ban Requests / ban defter
« on: May 11, 2021, 22:14 »
locknatter
defter
family related flame
56:37   defter   [Allies]   yahu sen nıe havlıosun aq iti:D
56:49   defter   [Allies]   aq evladı mılletın gazıyla havlıo
56:58   defter   [Allies]   orospu evladı
58:49   defter   [Allies]   aq beyınsızı creep yememıs daha
60:01   defter   [Allies]   mal aq


As support, he didnt make any item to break weaver's linken and i said fuck the way you play. Then he start to flame.

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6386353

Probably ban avoid, check this account. He was banned for 4 days and changed account.
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=player;sid=1;nick=silgi

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