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General Discussions / Re: Reevaluate the votekick command
« on: June 16, 2020, 18:06 »
Idk. I stopped playing here. :boy:

General Discussions / Re: Reevaluate the votekick command
« on: June 16, 2020, 16:23 »
1) We all know 9/10 votes it's too high( so high, it rarely happens even in obvious feed + item destroy games)
2) only 4 ally votekick can be abused (seend it happen a lot .. mad kidz or 4 stacking)
You draw a line and u get 4 ally + 2 enemy seems the best choice. OR not really BEST .. but still better than the 2 options presented in the poll.

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Yes. It can be coded. No need to check that ..  :boy:
To be fair, if games are meant to be balanced and good quality, kicking a feeder/antigamer won't/shouldn't win you the game. If you win a game after kicking the feeder, that makes the game imbalanced from the start .. (debate)

So this all discussion is w/o purpose, since the only solution would be removing the votekick all together.

From my perspective:
1) remove votekick
2) play the games as they are, if someone is antigaming (report , ban) and take the loss .. shit happens

Removing votekick should enforce users to report more antigamers/feeders etc. So moving the "justice" factor from their own hands to moderator's. Which should be overall better.

DotA Discussion / Re: ban system
« on: June 04, 2020, 21:15 »
It's a forum.
Forums are for debates.
Debates are not always meant to be productive.
(Those are called brainstorm sessions)  :boy:

DotA Discussion / Re: ban system
« on: June 04, 2020, 19:06 »
Never said it should be the norm. Only presented the 2 sides of the coin.

Also proposed a fix.
This should be "fixable" by adding another specification to the AFK rule:
Players can AFK if they typed !FF and, the majority (3players) voted for FF.

DotA Discussion / Re: ban system
« on: June 04, 2020, 18:28 »
You just speak of position of someone who plays for win and if he thinks game is lost even if its min 10 it should be auto ff.

But many people play for fun they enjoy the process and dont want to go ff in 10 minutes if you lost mid. And if you say after 10 minutes its lost im afk you ruin their fun

The notion of "fun" is subjective and selfish. Most players "play for fun" only when they are feeding/losing/having a bad game. IF they have a good game, they start trashing the "fun players" around them.

Playing as core, being highest PSR, and getting focused from start to end, no matter how much "fun" you try to add to the equation, it never ends well. So at that point, it's me continuing playing (getting fucked over and over) for some dude playing sniper and having 30cs min 10, but playing for "fun".
That's the problem. IF all the players in team are playing for fun .. there's no chance of winning. We can;t all have fun (unless we are a 5man stack). Someone has to work.

When was your last nostack, average PSR game where a team lost, and all the 5 players went like .. "ya, but it was fun". And none of them had something to complaint and be mad about.

However such cases occur from time to time, but they are either in high lvl games (where everyone played their best game), or very low level games (where everyone had fun, tested heroes and other stuff). But that's like 5-10% of the games.

TL;DR; You know who is keeping high spirits during an act for the sake of others fun ?
Spoiler for Hiden:

General Discussions / Re: Bad people
« on: June 04, 2020, 18:10 »
No. Many ppl play carry, cause they watch too much youtube.
And mainly because, to be fair... support is boring.
Everyone congrats the carry for winning, and blames the support for losing.

on rgc ppl play better , and is not much about psr as behaviour ppl on this realm to me like im their target to be provoked and blamed to make their days better?????? what im here????? NO!

I agree with this part. The moment you are flagged by the community as GOOD PLAYER / BAD PLAYER. Good players will be focused, bad players will be flamed. It's hard to get rid of the stigma.

Only playing undercover or being an average-joe and fly under the community-radar , can fix your game-experience. RGC hasn't got this issue because of the huge player base, so it takes a lot more time for you to make name (either good/bad) there. But once that happens, same story as here.

DotA Discussion / Re: ban system
« on: June 04, 2020, 18:02 »
If you type !ff and go afk then you waste time for others. Maybe they want to play even if they lose because they play for fun and not tryhard. Or maybe they see possibility to win game even if you think its over and with you they could win.

You are wrong. There are such games/cases, where game it is lost (just a matter of time) .. but enemy has no early tower push. And because of that some "trihard" defender can delay game with additional 10-15min or more. The only reason you should keep playing in those kind of games would be in hope some of the enemy drop/lag/leave.

I personally, got games where all my 3 players went afk (after someone dropped), considering game was over (mainly cause they feeded and their game was shit and teh guy who dropped was core). In the end I lost AA game with 32/4/16 score. While team feeding left-and-right. In this case I was the "trihard-defender". And delayed the game by 15min since the moment they went afk.

So you tell me I should have posted 4 players for losing hope ? And yes, even I aknolwedged game was lost. I simply continued playing because I considered enemies don;t deserve this ez win. But in the process I did waste the time of my 3 allies.  :boy:

This should be "fixable" by adding another specification to the AFK rule:
Players can AFK if they typed !FF and, the majority (3players) voted for FF.

General Discussions / Re: Bad people
« on: June 04, 2020, 17:50 »
I think you forgot, the level of imbalance on RGC (90% of games pro top, lows bottom)
It's fine. Go play some games, so you can remember the issue and appreciate the PSR system/balance on Lagabuse (as imperfect as it is).

"Sometimes we need to experience bad moments, so we can appreciate the good times."

General Discussions / Re: Bad people
« on: June 04, 2020, 17:45 »
Maybe try to format your text/formulate your ideas better.
Read it 2 times, understood only half of it.

Balance system it's ok(ish) .. but you need to add another layer on top of it.

Layer 1: I see a lot of ppl making free-games, where they let 1700+ psr play with 1400 PSR. That's non-balanced from start.

Try to play at least min 1600, or max 1600 (depending on the case) and balance will have more effect.

Layer 2: SD/AR modes are also harder to balance, since most of players are not comfortable with playing heroes outside their hero-pool.

Layer 3: Stackers. Any game with more than 3 players stacking will get fucked. Ez as that.

Layer 4: Roles. Too many 5-man-carry games lately..

TL;DR If you play min/max PSR adjusted games , without stackers and mode AP, you get best chances for balanced games.

An obvious improvement.
But looks a bit weird (and i think it's actually from the lack of content, not design itself). Can't really put my finger on it, but it's definitely there.

In some text-pages / wiki .. the contrast seems a bit harsh on eyes. Makes it hard to read too much text.

Also give some love to the banlist page/subpages.

DotA Discussion / Re: ban system
« on: June 04, 2020, 11:41 »
Yet you can't force him to play either.
It's his word vs your word. Maybe game was actually over ... idk. Not really talking about this specific case. :boy:

As the game u are talking about, you will also encounter games where game it's actually over. But enemy won't hard-push and your allies won't stop defending. So instead of losing min 25, you lose min 60+.

✔ Game lost
✔ 30 extra minutes wasted

How is this version of same story different than yours ?

It's a thin line. However afk is banable.
Even though sometimes it shouldn't. Because if I type !FF , I should be allowed to go afk, since I consider game to be over. If not.. then what's the point of FF ? I;m allowed to FF only when whole team agrees ? Should I waste 20 more minutes on something lost just because 1 from team won't FF ?

Thin line.

I revised the JS code. Nickname detection was conflicting with players having "[" or "]" in name.

Complaints Board / Wtf Jimmy boy ?
« on: May 29, 2020, 14:10 »,126892.msg700175.html#new

Is this a joke I'm supposed to laugh at ?
WTF ban is that ?

1. He never said in all chat to kick servetele for gameruining. He simply spammed "votekick" from time to time. W/o EVER requesting that he would be kicked. Are we supposed to kick someone just cause he say so ? We get "mad" votekicks all of the time.

2. His first ALL CHAT was min 45 >

3. Where's the game ruin ? Mirana spammed wards and made a lot of items, considering he didn;t play core. But again, I was in enemy team so I don;t really know the context. From my side, mirana seemed pretty active and engaged in team fights. (was actually pretty annoying).

> Ok farm
> Ok items
> Ok level
> Ok warding


DotA Discussion / 7.00a is out
« on: May 23, 2020, 21:35 »
7.00 is out.
But in heavy beta.  :boy:

The changelog is longer than all other changelogs so far, combined.  >:(

Ban Requests / Ban bridgestone racial ranting.
« on: May 23, 2020, 14:55 »

09:04   Bridgestone   [Allies]   he is gipsy is normal play like that
13:40   Bridgestone   [Allies]   gipsy
20:12   Bridgestone   [Allies]   why all from romania is gipsy

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