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There is no good or bad hero. There is no easy or hard hero.
In the end it all comes to your own skill and experience.

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Humor / Re: Dota facts about Chuck Norris
« on: May 21, 2010, 09:58 »
Chuck Norris jokes never get old even if they are so boring, overused and infantile.

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Offtopic / Re: Pd. Blacklist
« on: May 13, 2010, 16:56 »
AHAHA so your even more stupid then I tought ... nevermind Ill try to help you roflcopter

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And the point of blacklist is???? They will change acount anyway.

Exactly. The only way to stop people from changing accounts is to make the channel or bot have access restriction just like edl or ss. So whoever wants to join this community will have to request access here on forum. And then when someone gets banned he stays banned because he have access with only 1 account and then it wouldnt be pointless requesting bans and banning all those people.

BUT as I understand this is public bot and open commynity where everyone can join/play so "we" will not have such thing as access restriction. It is stupid to expect from public games to be of fine quality as everyone can join and do whatever they want so these attempts to make playdota.eu better place for dota are mostly pointless from what I see.

Moreover if you want better games then try to get in edl or ss where you can play awesome games without noobs/tards and where you can learn new moves from skilled players. On the Other hand if you cant get into edl/ss well then that another matter :)     

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Offtopic / Re: Pd. Blacklist
« on: May 13, 2010, 04:25 »
you still dont get it, do you  ;D

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These guides are the epitome of dota my friend they are apsolutely hilarious, I nearly fell off chair in laughter while reading.
There are a lot of these "guides"  and I have read most of them as I'm old forumer but not everyone know about these guides so I will add them here.

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Of course most of these guides will be considered crap by some, but hey, they ultimately define us and we should at least recognize if not celebrate it.

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And here come the second part of the comprehensive guide to public games and once again all credits go to Negi the original creator of these guides, enjoy reading :)




Foreword

Okay, here I am with part 2 of the guide to public gaming!
To continue, you are required to have thoroughly read the first edition of this most excellent guide or you would not grasp jackshit.
But my guide is so famous, I bet you have read it already anyway!

So you've served the pubstompers single handedly. However, game versions have changed, and solo carries are less effective than before, so we will have to garner a phenomenal unprecedent new technique in public games: TEAMWORK!

Chapter I: Understanding your team

Communication is a very important part of DotA. That is why many leagues require vent, so they can hear your little gay <insert racial slur here> voice.

For the lesser mortals, typing is the next best resort to convey your strategies, thoughts, emotions and suicidal tendencies to your team.

Every game has unique terminology, and DotA is no exception. Allow me to debrief you on deciphering the garbled messages that public game players often type:


Hi/Sup/Yo: Look at me, I know how to speak english!

Pick <HERO>: I heard that <HERO> is good, but apparently I suck at him.

Solo top/bottom: I've every intention of getting raped.

bbbbbbbb: I've got your back - oh wait, you're dead.

All missing: You are 5 milliseconds away from death by a 4 man gank.

Go heal at fountain: Don't bother, you'll revive with full hp and mana in a few seconds anyway.

Don't let <HERO> farm: <HERO> is now unstoppable carry.

No backdoor: I do not want you to win the game.

I'll ban you: Time to waste a few seconds of my life...

Come mid lets push: Come mid, let's all get raped.

<Pinging on minimap> + enemy pushing mid!: Someone else take care of it.

Come let's gank: Come, let's waste exp and gold going on a wild goose chase.

Stun <HERO>: Shit, <HERO> escaped again!

Heal me!: We don't have a healer.

Use AOE on their push: Don't bother, just lost our raxes.

Your hero imba: You picked the hero I wanted, good job!

WTF KS: Oh no, we should have let him get away!

Dota is a team game: My team covers up for my lack of skill.

Deny creep/tower: Give them another reason to leave.

<EXPLETIVE> YOU!: Well done, we've cut our losses - don't help me again next time.

WHERE THE #@Q$ IS MY TEAM?: I waltz into 5 enemy heroes.

Enemy at roshan COME: Let's all walk into a trap.

GG noobs you suck: I just won a pub game *orgasm*!

Chapter II: Picking heroes

Picking heroes in public games is a far more complex endeavour than picking heroes in private games.

The essence of victory hinges on making the correct picks.
There are a few roles in dota, and some heroes fit more than 1.

They are: Push, Carry, Support, AOE

The recommended pub team goes like this:
Carry
Carry
Carry
Carry
Carry

A very strong team would be: viper NS bloodseeker drow clinkz

Go figure.

Chapter III: Advanced concepts in laning

Going into a dual lane is more difficult than attempting a solo lane in pubs.

The reason why your team loses in lane control is because many players have the wrong mentality: That is, the point of you going to a dual lane is to assist your partner in dominating the other heroes.

BULLPOOP.

My view is that the objective of you gracing a dual lane with your presence is to outfarm and outdeny your ally.

Therefore you should always aim to:
1. Get more last hits than your ally
2. Deny more than your ally
3. Don't let your ally get any cash whatsoever


The rationale is simple, any cash that goes to a pubber instead of you is A HUMUNGOUS WASTE OF CASH!
And:

4. Make him leave because he cannot farm - ONE LESS PERSON TO CARRY!

Chapter IV: Advanced concepts in ganking

There was once a guy called dark knight gary. At first I thought he was homosexual from his playing style, but now I know that he is actually a very intellectually gifted player and I respect him a lot.

He plays rhasta, and he always gets dagger. He never, ever uses mass serpent wards if there are enemy heroes in the vicinity because that puts him in the line of fire. Count on him never to use shackle unless it's a 3v1 situation because things may go awry.

The only thing he ever does is farm and use fork lightning to get last hits on heroes. He builds up to aghs and refresher and then suddenly wins the game single handedly.

This, good pubbers, is the epitome of a smart ganker.

A few rules:
1. Even if you are a strength hero (eg. NS), you are never the cannon fodder.
2. Go in last.
3. Get dagger and blink out when you hit orange.
4. Don't buy desolator - it makes enemies attack you (ooh look, lets kill the guy firing RAINBOWS!)
5. Always take the runes. Always take regeneration, even if you are at full hp and mana, so you can spam more(that was old reg :) ). Always take invis, even if you are sa, because chances are, if your ally takes it he will screw up his attempted gank and die anyway. You're doing him a favour.
6. Allied heroes tank towers better than allied creeps.

Chapter V: Miscellaneous guidelines

1. When your team is attempting to roshan, stop attacking him once he hits red. Prepare yourself to last hit and get the aegis as fast as possible.

2. Do not make yourself a target. If you and your ally get ganked, don't stop to throw a stun. Run for your life into a fogged forest dead-end and use the tp scroll. I hope you have tp scrolls.

3. Most importantly - IF YOU DIE IN A PUB, YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE. DO-NOT-DIE!

(This will be updated with more helpful strategies as I acquire more time and ideas)

Happy pubbing!

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Offtopic / Re: Pd. Blacklist
« on: May 11, 2010, 23:12 »
Having blasklist in such comunity is rediculous unless your getting yourselvs blacklisted and I mean ALL

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Offtopic / Re: Because I'm such an attention w....
« on: May 11, 2010, 23:04 »
AHHH YES the post-boost-tread DAMN i waited so long ...

And remember the bigger your post count the bigger your dick !!!

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Humor / Re: Roshan sucks
« on: May 11, 2010, 12:26 »
Roshan is the favorite word of noobs.

"lets go rosh?"
"ok push then rosh?"
"maybe we should rosh?"
"they at rosh?"
"rosh?"

Well ofc noobs love roshan when they die zilion times per game and roshan drop aegis
so they can at least have -1 to death score  ;D

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Strategy / Re: The comprehensive guide to PUBLIC GAMES
« on: May 10, 2010, 10:52 »
This guide is 4-5 years old and it totaly made up my dota-pub-mentality
along with second part of this guide (which is even better :) ) and some other guides ofc.

Today, I play dota for fun, where OMGBergRush explained where the fun is ;D

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Originally Posted by OMGBergrush
here is a diagram showing where the fun is:

last hit all creeps = more money...certainly more than spell farming
more money = better items
better items = more pwnage
more pwnage = laughing at your opponents
laughing at your opponents = FUN!

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Strategy / The comprehensive guide to PUBLIC GAMES (Part1)
« on: May 09, 2010, 19:18 »
I just copied this old guide from another forum because I think it is fun and you might like it
nevertheless all credits go to Negi the original creator of this guide. Expect the second part of the guide soon and have a fun reading :)





Preface:

This was written in mind for solo public game players (especially beginners), no matter your skill level, to have a holistically better experience in what some people term as the "scum of dota games".

The truth is, 90% of dota games, or more, are public games. Unless 90% of the dota population is scum, more likely than not, you're probably saddled with a pub every time you want to play dota. Also, as a solo player, you'll be playing on the scourge team (ie. bound-to-lose team) most of the time.

The writer has a PhD. in public dota games and knows how to best enjoy himself while playing them. He is sympathetic towards new players, has great tolerance and divine patience, and will vouch for you. He has approximately 1000 public games experience under his belt and is very knowlegeable (if rather immodest) about this subject.


Chapter I: The basics

What is a public game?

Many people come up with definitions of pubs. The fact is that pubs can exist anywhere, in any program, legal or not, and in every part of the world. The single most distinguishable feature of a pub is that ANYONE CAN JOIN THE GAME!

3 things you need to know about pubs:

i) PRO ONLY in game title does not indicate that you have to be good at dota to join. In fact, anyone can join the game. The host is definitely not good at dota and isn't very clever either, because PROS DO NOT EXPECT A PRO ONLY PUB GAME.

ii) The country in the game title is merely a recommendation.

iii) -EM indicates that the game is for lesser skilled players. You know, what some call the scum of the scum.
An -EM "PRO ONLY" game indicates the host is in dire need of elementary education; stay clear.

To join a public game, simply go to the custom game list and double click on a title that has "dota" somewhere in it. Make sure you have the map! You may or may not want to bother about the country.


Chapter II: DANGER!

A CAUTIONARY WORD TO SOLO PUBBERS:

>50% of the hosts now use "PRO ONLY" in their game title.

Fact:

These games are likely to be more difficult to win because you will end up on scourge team.

Fiction:

The host is not pro at all. Negi will rub it in his face if requested to.

WHAT THIS INDICATES IS THAT THE HOST HAS NO INTENTION OF PLAYING A GAME. NO, HE IS PLAYING A FARCE. HE'S STACKING THE TEAM WITH HIS FOUL FRIENDS AND IS ATTEMPTING TO USE SOME SCRUB TEAMWORK TO DESTROY THE SCOURGE. HE IS BOUND TO WIN, RIGHT? WHATS THE POINT OF PLAYING A GAME YOU'RE BOUND TO WIN?

These homos RUIN DOTA. They enjoy winning all the time. They cause pain for the other team because there was never a point playing that game in the first place!

Okay, hold your horses. Not all hosts are like that. But 99.9% are unreasonable scrubs who team up with friends to beat up random, unorganized pubbers like you.

YOU COULD BE A VICTIM OF E-RAPE!

Don't let it happen to you. The following chapters will elaborate on how you can defend yourself.

RECOGNIZE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH PUBSMASHERS:

1. They have some clan tag...their names are similar. Eg.

IM.Gay
IM.Scrub
IM.Fag

2. They seem to chat in the game lobby - they know each other, clearly.

3. All of their names are in AlTeRnAtInG CaPs

That good sir is a SURE INDICATION OF THESE FAGGOTS. BURN THEM ALL!

Chapter III: Soft Approach

There is a rather ineffectual way to solve this problem.

Step 1:

Ask the host if he has friends on his team.

Step 2:

If yes (most probably), request him to add -sp into the game mode to make teams fair.

Step 3:

If he refuses or does not respond, don't despair! He is sure to be a pubsmasher, the true scum of the earth. Proceed to give him and his cronies hell.

Chapter IV: Giving him hell!

The simplest, most effective way is to do this few steps:

1. /whois Negi
2. If I'm in a private game, it means I'm playing a league game. It means I'm busy.
3. If not, I'm free. I can join your team and give the pubsmashers hell.
4. If I'm not online, you'll have to rely on your devices.


So the game starts with the group of fags whom intend to steamroll your scourge team.

1. Pick an early game hero who can solo well. (The master's choice is Tinker, other choices include enchant, viper, zeus and qop)

2. First blood the host. It's easy with these heroes. Whore runes if need be and gank him, but 99% of hosts are bad and will die upon your command anyway.

3. Talk Shit to him in ALL CHAT. The master recommends this course of dialogue:

YOU: "Hey host"
HIM: "yeah?"
YOU: "Why do you host a PRO ONLY game when you suck?"
HIM: "SHUT UP FAG, YOU GOT LUCKY, NEXT ILL GANK YOU"
YOU: "Oh, so you need some pussy lickin backup to cover your lack of balls? 1v1 me or you arent a man scrubface."


4. Get observer wards to cover your ass. TP scrolls if need be. When you spot the faggot of a host trying to get some teamwork to gank you run and TP away.

5. Proceed to kill one of his clanmates. Talk shit to them more:

YOU: "SUP!"
YOU: "Your friends suck at dota too, want tissues? In fact all of you are so bad; your entire clan sucks"
THEM: "~~random incoherent flaming", or "want to 5v5 clan match?"
YOU: "No, but I'd 1v1 and roll your ass, I don't need pussy backup like you"

99% of them decline because they know they can only win when they outnumber the opposition (ie. incredibly stacked odds). If that 1% accepts, you can get me to destroy them 1v1 for you.

6. Farm a dagon, keep those observers up. Instagib the host multiple times. In fact, kill all of them and go on a spree. Shit talk them more:

"LOL YOUR SO BAD, ALL OF YOU ARE DYING IN MY FACE, PUB CLANS WHO NEED TO TEAMWORK!"
"LOL 1v1 you lose, lol 2v1 you still lose, why are you playing dota you should have your doctor check you for metal retardation!"


7. That's it for now. The rest of your team may be feeding. We'll accept that.

8. Backdoor if possible. Do it hard and fast and carry TPs to get you out of danger. Best to do it with clinkz. Shittalk them while you backdoor, that forces them to type instead of kill you. Brag about how you can backdoor to win and it's a great tactic.

9. If you think you can win the game, then roll the host and friends and shittalk them until they leave.
If they start to teamwork in 5 and your team cannot cope with that, then it's time for plan B.

Chapter V: Plan B

Remember what I said? Pubsmashing hosts want 2 things out of their games:

1. Satisfaction of winning. 2. Fun through killing heroes.

DENY THEM BOTH.

You've already embarassed them by killing them into negative scores.
Now don't let them catch up. How? The moment you start losing, encourage your team to leave. Don't go all anal on your team, just persuasion will do - appear sympathetic.

"Hey guys, I don't think we can win this man."
"This isn't cool, I know you're dying like crazy dudes, this isn't worth your time, there are other games"
"I'm leaving guys, you won't enjoy it if you stay"
"Save yourself some time and play a game you can win"
"Let's all leave together k, I'm out guys"


And finally, tell them the most important thing about pubs:

IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO LEAVE IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING FUN. THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO YOU. IF YOU ARE NOT HAVING FUN IN A GAME, THEN QUIT PLAYING! THAT SIMPLE!

Some speak of integrity or manner in a pub game. In truth there are no rules nor any code of conduct whatsoever in a pub. Do as you please.

Just realize that are consequences to using hacks. The master DOES NOT CONDONE HACKING IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM AT ALL.

By mass leaving, you're denying the pubstompers the 2 things they want out of a pub: Hero kills (fun) and Winning against real players (satisfaction)! If this happens enough to them then perhaps they'll realize that stacking the teams will only result in rage on their part.

Chapter VI: Banlist

When the host says, leavers/backdoorers banned so no leaving allowed, it's just a suggestion.
The golden rule of leaving if it isn't fun still applies if they stack their team.

If you get banned, big deal.

There is another golden rule to public games I shall now tell you:

FOR EVERY LEAVER YOU BAN, 2 MORE JOIN YOUR NEXT GAME!

Take the ban and laugh at how they've just wasted their effort. No one remotely cares that you have just left a game 1 day later. Go to www.banlist.nl->tools->search for your name. If your name has more than 10 bans on it, simply create another account!

Banlist is useless in pubs. Next time you see it, point and laugh.

Chapter VII: Conclusion

This methods should only be employed against the cancer in dota that is stacked teams in pubs.

If the game is truly a fair one without friends on their team, then I recommend you simply stay and enjoy the game. cool.gif Play it cool, man.

Remember, stacked "PRO" teams are still bad dota players, they just attempt to beat weaker disorganized players to disguise their lack of skill. DONT LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU! GIVE THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE, SHOVE THEIR CRAP BACK UP THEIR ASS!

Happy pubbing!

Legal notice: The author bears no responsibility for any mishaps you encounter while employing the methods desrcibed within this document.

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Suggestion Board / Re: About ingame rules
« on: May 06, 2010, 11:41 »
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This clears it up.

In fact it doesnt.
You see in SS where i played long ago same !ff command was implemented without negative effect on stats.

So, my friends admins and mods seems to me like you got a job to do.   

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Suggestion Board / Re: Invisible rule?!
« on: May 06, 2010, 10:17 »
By staying afk on the fountain you are basicly provoking opponents to attack you.
The only question is: why is it so hard to stay BEHIND fountain where you probably wont be attacked.
Even if they have pudge with hook or smth else you can still buy tango to eat few trees and clear the
way to the very corner of the map where you are hidden in fog and 100% safe.

Btw this is one of the most lamest rules of all and just to remind none of this would have hapend
if there is forfeit command. 
 

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Technical support / Re: bugged commands
« on: May 06, 2010, 10:05 »
Explode for president  ;D

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Suggestion Board / About ingame rules
« on: April 15, 2010, 16:05 »
I think some radical changes needs to be done here on ingame rules.

You see I played many games on PD.eu and in some games you have situations like you have one noob/tard
in team and he is feeding like 0-7 in 15 min so you want to votekick him and you writte !votekick, you get 4 votes
from your team which is insuficient for kick because players from opposing team need to vote as well and there is the problem
they dont want to kick him I mean why should they? He is feeding them they are getting stats and they are not
obligated by rules to vote for kick so they dont vote and the other team continues to play lost game with excessive feeder

And that is one of the thing that needs change I mean why ask opposing team to kick noob from "our" team
when they dont have any reason to kick. So if sentinel wants to votekick player from their team scourge shouldnt be asked to vote for such action.

There is another thing I'd like to add.

It is new command to forfeith game it works like rmk but only players from loosing team should use it when they
are sure they already lost game like they are having 5 late gamers versus 5 early pushers or team score is 25-7 in 17 min of game or whatever the situation is,
game is lost and they are wasting and time feeding as the opponent team doesnt really rush with ending game (collecting stats) so here is where !ff command is needed. The command should end game when everyone from one team vote, all stats are collected and the game is finished as the team who voted for ff lost the game ofc.

I think this command will improve quality of PD.eu games a lot as "we" really felt it missing in certain games.

Thank you for reading and patience.

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