So as a conclusion we everybody who are PRO and CONTRA for the new map can agree that, the map is going toward being Dota 2, in a war3 skin right?
The main question is therefore, if we want to play classic dota1 or a cheap copy of dota2 map, put into action in Dota1 graphics?
If you are PRO for the new map, why don't just move and play Dota2?
If you are CON for the new map, why even argue about what is bad in the new map, since its 90% Dota2?
This whole conversation is pointless therefore.
Well, for myself, personally, i feel it a bit weird to see it getting closer and closer to Dota 2 state, since we are here oldschool misters and we come to play to seek for our nostalgic feelings, but not anything professional-competitive related (for competitive gameplay, i was always sending people to play Dota2 instead)
But again, i note - that's personally. While, by logic and brain usage i support this movement with semi-following dota2, at least because, as it been said by mister
earthshaker not using fissure on time jeandorc, - Dracolich does not have full squad of game designers who can balance the game in the best way, while Volvo has such paid professional squad, along with a way to gather extended statistics about gameplay.
And probably, without any updates it would probably become boring to play same map over and over.
Someone said that we were absolutely fine while playing abandoned Icefrog's map for 10 years, well:
We all remember massive memory leak while having leoric in-game, we all remember broken linken effects, we all remember lycantrope being just stuck while casting ulti, we all remember broken stun mechanics, we all remember broken 'doom' spell-type effect, a lot of things
I mean, it was just packed with bugs and engine limitations, which made many cool players leave this map in first place (Hello, @CoMMoN13371337)
Mister dracol1ch carefully fixed it (linken is still under updating) in his map
All of you so called ''pros'' who are listing tons of pro changes, and making fun of the classic dota1 loving players here on the forum: why didn't you go play Dota2 already long ago? Why I don't see your nicks in professional Dota2 teams and tournaments? Maybe you aren't ''pros'' in the sense of the word itself, but you are feeling comfy just to tell the ''noobs'' here on the forum, while thinking yourself some kind of skillfuly and morally superior players.
No you aren't. If you would be pros, you would play DOta2 already on big tournaments.making fame and money. But you don't. Meaning you are lowskill players, same as the rest of us.
I almost carefully followed this whole thread, probably missed something,
please, correct me if i am wrong, but i did not find that anyone called himself 'pro' and stating the difference between our skill levels (meanwhile difference is, honestly, quite big). I mean, no one here, if i am not wrong, self-bragged about his knowledge while at same time trolling true oldschcool Dota1 players, and at same time using it as argument;
So you can stop telling us what is good and what is bad, all the while insulting us being lowskill players, who don't know shit about the map.Couse you don't know shit neighter.
This line is based on some nonsense, i think just to ignore it (obviously map knowledge difference is big, but again - it is not a reason to have conflicts; Personally i would love to help people to learn the game, if they want)
Drakolich: Your posts on this forum section are the proof of what a childish person you are. You aren't a mapmaker, just a copy-paster guy of Dota2, who took the money from players who wanted to support classic Dota1. Imagine their frustration when they saw this new map of yours. I don't think they all donated money for 'this'.
Well, this thread started with absolutely invalid arguments, until some viable insights appeared (including your here)
So he answered in a fashion of those arguments, it is obvious
He is smart person and can be communicative and helpful if you know how to speak, rather than just throwing random 'arguments' (here i relate to those unrelated argument spammers, not you)
I feel your point of destroying Dota1 and nostalgic environment we had while playing this for years, i have same inner feeling.
But I kind of support both versions, since new one is awesome too, has a lot of balance/gameplay/strategy improvements which i like (maybe, even love), and can joyfully share and explain on demand
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