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General Discussions / Re: !SD and player attitude

« on: January 16, 2012, 19:34 »

Yes, it was -arem game, but the guy said "Don't join pro games" (implying arem is a 'pro' game). As for the number of creeps, again, it was an -em game, so I didn't need to farm that much anyway >.>

In any case, my point which you seem to deviate from, was that players emphasise way too much on numbers that mean close to nothing. >.< You just witnessed how SD=1650 players failed miserably, and I'm sure it's happening all the time in other games.

The only statistic that is truly individual and truly matters in pub games is the ratio of unfinished/total games, i.e. leaver percentage. ._.


At least I love that autoban thingie.

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General Discussions / Re: !SD and player attitude

« on: January 16, 2012, 18:39 »

Which is exactly why I'm complaining >.< Read the title!

Arrogant "-apem proz" players idealise and worship that !SD score as if it's the definite measurement of skill*. There's no such thing as individual skill in DotA, because it's a team game. You may have 6 years of experience and end up in a godawful team 10 times in a row. What does it prove?

K/D/A stats don't measure skill or intelligence either. 99% of DotA players fail to realise that.

Those ladder scores only encourage that stupid discrimination and comparing of measurements that persist in every single game.

*Copied from the game chat:
02:55    [Guardian.Wisp]:    kick sodan and lttle (no games)

17:35    [knives]carl (Allies)    !SD CHER
17:38    [knives]carl (Allies)    LOL
17:45    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    YEAH STFU NOW WHEN YOU LOOK SD

19:20    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    !sd carl
19:23    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    lol
19:26    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    nice sd noob
19:28    [knives]carl (Allies)    LOL WHAT
19:30    [knives]carl (Allies)    IDIOT
19:36    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    poor sd
19:38    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    very poor

20:57    [knives]carl (Allies)    OH YES NOOB
21:06    [knives]carl (Allies)    LOOK HOW U PLAY
21:08    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    pls caompare sd and stfu
21:16    [knives]carl (Allies)    SD DOESNT MATTER
21:19    [knives]carl (Allies)    LOOK AT YOUR SD
21:19    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    lol
21:21    [knives]carl (Allies)    AND HOW U PLAY
21:30    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    sd shows how you play
21:32    [knives]carl (Allies)    U HAVE GOOD SD BUT U PLAY LIKE A BIG HELL NOOB
21:33    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    it doesnt matter?
21:41    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    yeah, i failed a game
21:43    [The.Butcher] (Allies)    so what?
29:45    [knives]carl (Allies)    DONT JOIN PRO GAMES DUDE

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/3194544/dota-arem-4

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General Discussions / !SD and player attitude

« on: January 16, 2012, 14:06 »

First impressions...

So my friend called me for a game last night... He's been praising Eurobattle.net for quite a while, and I decided to give it a shot. But...

I couldn't get into any game! D: Even in "1500+" games, or "apem noobs" games, I was getting instantly kicked for not having played on this platform >.<

Ultimately my friend hosted a game himself, in which the Scourge team turned out to be a group of friends. (By the way they also wanted him to kick me). According to some statistic, we had 20% something to win against them. Even though we had 0 team communication (no one of our teammates ever spoke), we completely destroyed them in 30 minutes. So much for the "1700" ratings and the elitist attitude. :/

Apart from that, it was an OK pub experience. Actually one of the very very few games where someone other than me bought Observer Wards. ^_^ True that teammates were deafmute as always, but I've already given up on that, even with my 4 languages.

Still, I think they should emphasise a lot less on 'ladder records' that neglect any background experience on players' side...