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Title: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Leo on September 19, 2011, 16:49
Being bored at work did some research: Browsed through the maphack section and checked the last 100 permbanned players there by checking the max psr and played(without the draws) games.

Results
- played games:
A maphacker plays at average 50 games before he gets caught.
- max PSR:
Approximately 40% of the caught maphackers had reached max 1550 psr, 30% up to 1600, 20% up to 1650 and 10% up to 1700(only one had over 1700).

Conclusions

- the good news:
The maphackers are low skilled players who has no other chance to win except to cheat. That's like >99% of them. The other 1% are good or pro players looking to boost their skill and they are hard to catch (TeG-Kanga is an examle). Thus said, without a very good approximation can be said that above 1700 psr, the percentage of maphackers is 1%. So if you are a decent not-cheating player above that limit, you will have fairplay games.

- the bad news:
These 100 maphackers were checked in topics not older than Sept 17. This is like catching 50 maphackers per day. And this number is proportional to the total number of not catched maphackers, which, as it seems, is quite a number.

PS:
Admins,
Can a permbanned player create a new account? When a permban is made do you blacklist his ip?
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Rocka on September 19, 2011, 16:58
A perma banned can create a new account,
IP ban wont be done because it'll be range and there might be other there playing aswell.
But these player's IP can be tracked so accounts can be banned once they are new created.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: SaintKnight on September 19, 2011, 17:22
More statistics for you:
90% of them are from Turkey xaxa  8)
Turks are the cancer of this community, don't get me wrong I'm not racist it's just that they are horrible players with bad manners and cheaters...(MOST of them not ALL)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: farm2pwn on September 19, 2011, 17:24
More statistics for you:
90% of them are from Turkey xaxa  8)
Turks are the cancer of this community, don't get me wrong I'm not racist it's just that they are horrible players with bad manners and cheaters...(MOST of them not ALL)

true....
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dRagoLjuB on September 19, 2011, 17:27
More statistics for you:
90% of them are from Turkey xaxa  8)
Turks are the cancer of this community, don't get me wrong I'm not racist it's just that they are horrible players with bad manners and cheaters...(MOST of them not ALL)

true....
but they are most on this server
i m sure there are some pro players xd
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: nermiee on September 19, 2011, 17:50
True story.

Offtopic : Expect fights and flames now, for that reply saint.. ;/
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on September 19, 2011, 17:54
Well it's that kind proportional thing that was discussed in another thread.. Not to offend any of you guys, i always thought RO we're the biggest noobs ever (i spent a lot of time on garena :D ), but TR beat them in every aspect imaginable.. (Be it unwillingness to talk in english when they want something from you, breaking rules or just not knowing what teh F' are they playing just now)


also So if you are a decent not-cheating player above that limit, you will have fairplay games. might be true, still there will always be one guy that goes afk because he didnt get solo mid, 2 that will say "i go farm forest for 999 years, this team sucks" when they get killed on lane, 1 guy that got into the game by accident and doesnt know jack about the game, and that last one that just hanged himself (you) :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Astaroth on September 19, 2011, 18:26
also So if you are a decent not-cheating player above that limit, you will have fairplay games. might be true, still there will always be one guy that goes afk because he didnt get solo mid, 2 that will say "i go farm forest for 999 years, this team sucks" when they get killed on lane, 1 guy that got into the game by accident and doesnt know jack about the game, and that last one that just hanged himself (you) :D
I have met even worse idiots. For example today, one guy started to feed coz they didin't let him solo mid.
04:21    Insane4life (All)    go rmk and ban huskar
04:27    Astaroth (All)    ban you
04:31    Astaroth (All)    not husk
04:41    Insane4life (All)    why? coz i said mid 1st and moron comes mid?
04:48    Astaroth (All)    no coz you feed
04:55    Insane4life (All)    i said i will feed if he comes mid
04:56    Insane4life (All)    so
05:03    Astaroth (All)    so you feed on purpose
05:06    Astaroth (All)    it is bannable
05:06    Insane4life (All)    yes
05:17    Insane4life (All)    its simple as that
I've reported him, he got perma banned by Icy with Ban description: game ruin like retard
Made my day, ty Icy ;D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on September 19, 2011, 18:33
Yep.. There's one worse, 4guys pick agi and all type

fag1(Bone Clinkz):"PICK TANK"
fag2(Stealth Assasin):"tank plz"
fag3(Bloodseeker):"pick tank omg"
fag4(Phantom Assasin):"we need tank, pick tank"
me: "Why didnt you pick it then"
fag1+2+3+4:"i picked first omg!"
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Leo on September 19, 2011, 18:51
You are missing the word "fairplay". I meant hacks-free games. The biggest pros are usually big idiots, so the PSR means nothing here. The topic is not about the teamplay, it is about the maphack and who uses it.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on September 19, 2011, 18:56
I was just pointing out that tho there wont be any MHer's, there will be retards :)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: ^omYota on September 19, 2011, 19:33
More statistics for you:
90% of them are from Turkey xaxa  8)
Turks are the cancer of this community, don't get me wrong I'm not racist it's just that they are horrible players with bad manners and cheaters...(MOST of them not ALL)

true....
true...BUT the worst game you can ever play  :Mode // Pd.eu // COME ALL/NOOB game .. with 9 RS players(you can be from anywhere except SK,CZ,BA..) . Here you don't find 1 or 2 beginers , here you will find 9 totally noobs players that will do anything that is possible for them to fuck your day to the limits and beyond (multiply , at least, by 5 garena Romanian room 25+ and RO players will understand what i am talking about)..it's like playing 1 v 9 . Now that's horrible !

ON : Nice statistic leo , what is really scary is that you find 100 permanent banned players for mh in 1 and a half days. And just like you said , this is just a small number comparing to how many mh'ers are online daily. If anyone want to see how bad this situation is and how fast it's growing : borrow an account with bellow 1500 psr and bad stats and join a noob/1500+/mix(with players with max 1600 psr) ..pure hazard.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Astaroth on September 19, 2011, 19:36
Yep.. There's one worse, 4guys pick agi and all type

fag1(Bone Clinkz):"PICK TANK"
fag2(Stealth Assasin):"tank plz"
fag3(Bloodseeker):"pick tank omg"
fag4(Phantom Assasin):"we need tank, pick tank"
me: "Why didnt you pick it then"
fag1+2+3+4:"i picked first omg!"
I've met uber idiot of this type. We had 2 agi and 1 int. He said "pick tank, tank omg" and then he picked Clinkz.
But you know why? Coz of MH. There are heroes who benefits from MH more than other heroes (Invis heroes and heroes who can pwn alone easily - Barat, Balanar and every feeded carry). Se he thought he will pwn easily but they raped us soooo fast and then guys like this blame others "retard team"...
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Alucardo on September 19, 2011, 19:48
when i use mh i play much worse and play like a total tard

and btw the most hero who can get benefit with mh is furion .. furion with mh = gg you win 90%
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on September 19, 2011, 20:11
Well fresh from game i was called MHer for using observer wards.. TBH, if i had to sort players nations from least favorite.. it would be TR, CZ, RO .. No offense czech people, i'm one of you, but we too are the country with some really big fucktards who just cant realize they're not right...

The stats are great, the thing im worried about is i cant get past 1660 :\ i guess ill be playing with MHers for a while longer :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: reactionxxx on September 19, 2011, 21:21
I just found a big (REAL BIG) number of turks who were noobs/tards/etcetc.
Not saying they are all the way same but a big part are just nabs.
Example: enter on a tr apem/pro game most of them are less than 1550 xD
MH topic:What can i say, its mostly like in other games: cs with wallhack etcetc You will not change a cheater mind, he gets more and more addict to cheats, he wont even be able to leave xD
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Ikenhouer on September 19, 2011, 21:42
there are many more mhkers than u think. the search uve done there is wrong. the main reason to ban mhkers here is click in fow. i must remember u that a lot of mh versions have options which allows u to click or not players in fow. unfortunately i must agreew with some posts here saying that turkish(noob) players are mhkers. turks represent more than stupidity and mhing here but thats another story. i dont like them eighter. i guarantee u that a lot of "pro" players have mh. nevertheless the stats thing u've raised there its legitimate and have sense. for ur only opinion a player stats can be a start point to conclude if he has or not mh.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on September 19, 2011, 22:30
Too bad Warcraft doesnt have it's own Aceton (which is tool for c&c, which blocks the known maphacks and takes screenshots during the game and uploads them, so MHers are really easy to identify)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: reactionxxx on September 20, 2011, 00:30
Too bad Warcraft doesnt have it's own Aceton (which is tool for c&c, which blocks the known maphacks and takes screenshots during the game and uploads them, so MHers are really easy to identify)
Some sort of VAC like in steam games?
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on September 20, 2011, 03:17
Yes something like that, entirely custom made program used for clanwars ladder..

EA took a huge dump on each and everyone of the the Zero Hour community right after they bought their copy of the game.. The patches sucked, all the bugs still exist, there's absolutely no form of punishing users for mhing / abusing bugs on official servers.

So some guys made Aceton.. which, for Zero Hour and Generals was remade into GenTool, the ultimate maphack detection tool. (Well it detects if the user that has installed it is using maphack via screenshoting etc.)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: nermiee on September 20, 2011, 14:46
Okay guys, xuid bans (or wateva is it called - hardware bans or smth) are rly good thing, that is implented on cod mw2 "official" servers, but too bad that people are still bypassing that program or wateva is it.
So, lets just say this and stay onto it : Cheaters gonna cheat, no matter what.

Cuz we have like 12353262 websites or forums that are giving "free hacks" but stupid guys who uses hacks, dont really know different between crackers and hackers, so they just download hacks, later they will got they OS destroyed by that cracker who made that hack. :/
So atm we cant do anything i guess versus maphackers, xpect to wait to they loose they nerves buyin and rebooting their OS  :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: feederleaver on October 08, 2011, 18:07
You are missing the word "fairplay". I meant hacks-free games. The biggest pros are usually big idiots, so the PSR means nothing here. The topic is not about the teamplay, it is about the maphack and who uses it.

Is it true that u can reach above ~1650 psr only if u play in stacked teams ? :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dRagoLjuB on October 08, 2011, 18:12
« Reply #20 on: 20 September 2011, 14:46:07 »

gj
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: nermiee on October 08, 2011, 19:27
trolling me ? :D Or ? :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dRagoLjuB on October 08, 2011, 19:32
no just wanted to say that he refreshed a topic from « Reply #20 on: 20 September 2011, 14:46:07 » with a useless comment :P
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: nermiee on October 09, 2011, 19:59
well :D ok :0
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: 2xT.crucifier on October 10, 2011, 22:29
Being bored at work did some research: Browsed through the maphack section and checked the last 100 permbanned players there by checking the max psr and played(without the draws) games.

Results
- played games:
A maphacker plays at average 50 games before he gets caught.
- max PSR:
Approximately 40% of the caught maphackers had reached max 1550 psr, 30% up to 1600, 20% up to 1650 and 10% up to 1700(only one had over 1700).

Conclusions

- the good news:
The maphackers are low skilled players who has no other chance to win except to cheat. That's like >99% of them. The other 1% are good or pro players looking to boost their skill and they are hard to catch (TeG-Kanga is an examle). Thus said, without a very good approximation can be said that above 1700 psr, the percentage of maphackers is 1%. So if you are a decent not-cheating player above that limit, you will have fairplay games.

- the bad news:
These 100 maphackers were checked in topics not older than Sept 17. This is like catching 50 maphackers per day. And this number is proportional to the total number of not catched maphackers, which, as it seems, is quite a number.

PS:
Admins,
Can a permbanned player create a new account? When a permban is made do you blacklist his ip?

Yes but They cant do anything about it
its we the player who can stop this maphackers by posting mh report ban requests and checking repalys admins rly cant check every replay for mh..
that would not be eve possible..
btw love the bot less and less hakcers in the recent time :)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Bart on October 11, 2011, 16:04

btw love the bot less and less hakcers in the recent time :)

yeah thanks to me, im teaching mh crew how to detect faster mh, also i did 5 req so 5less mhers :D:DDD

also i thaught jingle whats parser and he made over 100 request in few days even tho hes not mh mod :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dRagoLjuB on October 11, 2011, 16:45

btw love the bot less and less hakcers in the recent time :)

yeah thanks to me, im teaching mh crew how to detect faster mh, also i did 5 req so 5less mhers :D:DDD

also i thaught jingle whats parser and he made over 100 request in few days even tho hes not mh mod :D
xDD  i think it has to do with smth other :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: joyjoy on October 11, 2011, 16:54

btw love the bot less and less hakcers in the recent time :)

yeah thanks to me, im teaching mh crew how to detect faster mh, also i did 5 req so 5less mhers :D:DDD

also i thaught jingle whats parser and he made over 100 request in few days even tho hes not mh mod :D
xDD  i think it has to do with smth other :D

jingle knows them?  ::)........... ;D

nah its nice that theres less and less MHers ;)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Vector on October 16, 2011, 02:06
Well fresh from game i was called MHer for using observer wards.. TBH, if i had to sort players nations from least favorite.. it would be TR, CZ, RO .. No offense czech people, i'm one of you, but we too are the country with some really big fucktards who just cant realize they're not right...

The stats are great, the thing im worried about is i cant get past 1660 :\ i guess ill be playing with MHers for a while longer :D

1: i was called mher cause i checked forest and owned a hero there
2: i was called mher cause invisibility has recloack time of 1 second or less i used omni slash and owned weaver while he almost invisable or it was strygwyrs track :/
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: tatkosmolko on October 16, 2011, 06:52
dont take me wrong admins and hack mods etc doing great job, BUT TO BE HONEST less and less mh ers? dont think thats true i noticed that the games are filling with mhers more and more like half a year there used to be like 1 mher in every game and maybe i just got a little better in the game that i could identify somebody with mh faster but now i see at least like 2 - 3 in every game... and i d love to report them all but i play dota for fun and to spend my free time i dont wanna spend the time on mh reports and like as long as perma bans gonna be only on accounts not on ips theres never going to be less mhers only more coz the fair players just goes like ok thats it if 40 percent of players have mh i ll get it too.... and about tracking the accounts from same ip... is that really happening? i dont think it does coz like few months back i reported a mher and like the very next day he whisps me that he made new account and that hes going to own me... so seriously please consider IP bans otherwise u wont see a fair game here....
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dRagoLjuB on October 16, 2011, 14:27
about maphackers XD

http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,77104.0.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,77104.0.html)

:DD
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: crazzy on October 17, 2011, 19:23
Well fresh from game i was called MHer for using observer wards.. TBH, if i had to sort players nations from least favorite.. it would be TR, CZ, RO .. No offense czech people, i'm one of you, but we too are the country with some really big fucktards who just cant realize they're not right...

I don't know if u're right , i played with a lot decent CZ ppl and ofc RO friends , maybe the problem is cuz these 3 nations fill  more then 50% of total pd players and u find always a maphacker or a retard to represent his contry.

its easy to search a few retards and start pub them as RO or idk what country they represent but u never look after top teams or players nations.

About Garena.. wtf this platform is fucked and soon will dissapear , not only RO are the problem there , is a fucking chaos without a banning sys , even int tournaments changed that platform .

PS:if Afgans fill more  then 20% of players they were best retards and maphackers?
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: AF_Affliction on October 17, 2011, 22:19
Well the problem with czech people for me at least is, i'm pretty sure they can understand me when im talking to them...

I can get that a TR guy that never played DotA and never used english in his life somehow got into the game im in... But ffs, i'm giving them the right advice to become a better player and they don't fucking care, that just pisses me off to no end..
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Natura Sonoris on October 18, 2011, 00:51
Soon server will be clean of mhers , i mean 90 % of it.

And they wont be able to play again at bnet = ever
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: joyjoy on October 18, 2011, 02:32
Well the problem with czech people for me at least is, i'm pretty sure they can understand me when im talking to them...

I can get that a TR guy that never played DotA and never used english in his life somehow got into the game im in... But ffs, i'm giving them the right advice to become a better player and they don't fucking care, that just pisses me off to no end..

about CZ as Im one of them, most slavic languages are understandable ;) not whole words, but meanings yeah

and about MH Im ashamed as CZ for that a lot of ppl are complaining on them :( but as Astaroth said in previous discussion with more ppl - more % of MH and TR, RO and CZ are one of most numerous ppl on EB so more % of MH... still those are some young noobs that dont think at all and rage...

and TR ppl are problem cause not of the nationality but not using EN for gaming at least few word that are international for dota  >:( they speak with their crazy language even 3 ppl here TR and rest europe and you cant speak to them about tactics and game the ignore you and full the chat by their nonsense sry its true

and yeah its heading to cleaned server now Im glad that Im still alive to see it  :)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: 1QuestioN! on October 20, 2011, 22:10
when i use mh i play much worse and play like a total tard

and btw the most hero who can get benefit with mh is furion .. furion with mh = gg you win 90%

whisper(lo) to :D
example whisper + somehero + naix or riki :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: reactionxxx on October 20, 2011, 22:43
Turk are not the only ones who speak on their freaking language...
jebeemi kurva jajaja xcaxaxa what ever...
And yea let see how you guys clean the server, willl not believe untill see xD sorry
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Rocka on October 21, 2011, 16:54
Turk are not the only ones who speak on their freaking language...
jebeemi kurva jajaja xcaxaxa what ever...
And yea let see how you guys clean the server, willl not believe untill see xD sorry
That means you probably know nothing or that you can not use your brains.
Hacks mods are working their asses off to ban every maphacker they can find, and they are doing a great job.
But cleaning a server from it is way beyond possible atm without any ways to keep them from stopping.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Ares..713 on November 14, 2011, 11:06
Being bored at work did some research: Browsed through the maphack section and checked the last 100 permbanned players there by checking the max psr and played(without the draws) games.

Results
- played games:
A maphacker plays at average 50 games before he gets caught.
- max PSR:
Approximately 40% of the caught maphackers had reached max 1550 psr, 30% up to 1600, 20% up to 1650 and 10% up to 1700(only one had over 1700).

Conclusions

- the good news:
The maphackers are low skilled players who has no other chance to win except to cheat. That's like >99% of them. The other 1% are good or pro players looking to boost their skill and they are hard to catch (TeG-Kanga is an examle). Thus said, without a very good approximation can be said that above 1700 psr, the percentage of maphackers is 1%. So if you are a decent not-cheating player above that limit, you will have fairplay games.

- the bad news:
These 100 maphackers were checked in topics not older than Sept 17. This is like catching 50 maphackers per day. And this number is proportional to the total number of not catched maphackers, which, as it seems, is quite a number.

PS:
Admins,
Can a permbanned player create a new account? When a permban is made do you blacklist his ip?

I agree with Leo did the same thing on Random +1500 AND +1550 and rly almost 75% of TR player that were playing those 10 game had Mh i made reports for some of them but what when u tell them that they will get perma banned and to not use mh they will always say: BIG DEAL ME CREAT ANOTHER ACC.
Isnt there someway we can track this players or put a warn on there acc that they had use mh before?
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Steccky on November 14, 2011, 14:42
More statistics for you:
90% of them are from Turkey xaxa  8)
Turks are the cancer of this community, don't get me wrong I'm not racist it's just that they are horrible players with bad manners and cheaters...(MOST of them not ALL)

You're damn right pal! :)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Ares..713 on November 14, 2011, 23:13
Soon server will be clean of mhers , i mean 90 % of it.

And they wont be able to play again at bnet = ever
yes ip banned i saw my idiot "friend" didnt listen to me he used mh all the time i report him all the time and now he is sending unban request 69708657 times ... :)
happy me
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Natura Sonoris on November 15, 2011, 00:20
Soon server will be clean of mhers , i mean 90 % of it.

And they wont be able to play again at bnet = ever
yes ip banned i saw my idiot "friend" didnt listen to me he used mh all the time i report him all the time and now he is sending unban request 69708657 times ... :)
happy me

ip ban is just one of methods
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: kunai on November 23, 2011, 23:41
Yep.. There's one worse, 4guys pick agi and all type

fag1(Bone Clinkz):"PICK TANK"
fag2(Stealth Assasin):"tank plz"
fag3(Bloodseeker):"pick tank omg"
fag4(Phantom Assasin):"we need tank, pick tank"
me: "Why didnt you pick it then"
fag1+2+3+4:"i picked first omg!"

Hahahahaha, this one has to be the Game of The Year hahahahaah....


True, very true.. I always shout "Don`t pick to many Agility" , cuz one team cannot have more then 2 Agilitys... I always play Support ( most time INTS ) heroes to boost those Agility... A good Support will win the game more then a good Carry hero...

I also get angry when sometimes i want to play with Agility-like hero, and see the team allready has 4 Agis.. :)

Anyway this one made me laugh a lot ...

All of them shouting "pick Tank" xDD
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Astaroth on November 23, 2011, 23:56
Hahahahaha, this one has to be the Game of The Year hahahahaah....

True, very true.. I always shout "Don`t pick to many Agility" , cuz one team cannot have more then 2 Agilitys... I always play Support ( most time INTS ) heroes to boost those Agility... A good Support will win the game more then a good Carry hero...

I also get angry when sometimes i want to play with Agility-like hero, and see the team allready has 4 Agis.. :)

Anyway this one made me laugh a lot ...

All of them shouting "pick Tank" xDD
1) So I've played many games of the year ;D
2) Good support of good carry will win the game
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: kunai on November 24, 2011, 00:21
Hahahahaha, this one has to be the Game of The Year hahahahaah....

True, very true.. I always shout "Don`t pick to many Agility" , cuz one team cannot have more then 2 Agilitys... I always play Support ( most time INTS ) heroes to boost those Agility... A good Support will win the game more then a good Carry hero...

I also get angry when sometimes i want to play with Agility-like hero, and see the team allready has 4 Agis.. :)

Anyway this one made me laugh a lot ...

All of them shouting "pick Tank" xDD
1) So I've played many games of the year ;D
2) Good support of good carry will win the game

I don`t mean games of the year in exact sence, but rather in a Satirical one :))

Anyway what you say is true...

A good support for a good carry wins the game, just like Messi without Xavi and Iniesta is... well like your local Sunday League Player :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: triggerx on December 09, 2011, 10:38
guys u are so funny, u are blaming every country, but in every country are some fucktards with no brain ! i can say there are 90% people who got no idea about this game
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: lord_kurai on December 09, 2011, 15:44
you tell me, xD
if you would play in a garena room of my country, you would not believe what you see. First, you would not be able to join a single game, cuz they use an updated patch (they are stuck at 1.24) and pretty much everyone uses MH . If you get ganked, you are stupid cuz u dont have MH xD
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: kolonya on December 09, 2011, 18:04
calling most players of a country as noobs mhers is bullshit i think. what i will say is just go install garena and play in all countries rooms. If you play enough in all rooms, you will understand not only Cz,Tr,Ro are the mhers and noobs. This is not about nationality, its just the nature of human who wants to win always. The reason why u see the players of these countries is many of them play on playdota.eu . i dont have real numbers of players but i think players of Cz,Tr,Ro (or whichever u blame as noobs mhers) are the majority on playdota.eu . this is the reason.  Just go install garena and do what i say your ideas will change i guess.

on the other hand, it becomes boring because people just write !f and start to blame you! there are many racist on playdota.eu!! im from turkey and i experience racism everyday in dota there. In my opinion, racism is as important as using mh. People who complain for the number of mh users should not blame countries this is as bad as using mh
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dzokavac on December 09, 2011, 18:22
kurai is right.i play on this bot for 2 years and i never see pro player from turk and probably i never see.all i see is mhers,game ruiners afkers leavers etc..soo you are majority on pd thats for sure but why then you dont have atleast over 500 pro players from turkey?ask yourself that dude.cheers
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: DoctaSpock on December 09, 2011, 19:18
lol

there was des_ups, pro tr player, idk where is he now. atm u have Filibis who is in top 50, also u have attledih, a very good player, he was in top 50 also.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: BrownTygeR on December 09, 2011, 19:36
And u have me? we had sw33t_gurl(she was good support player) also my friend mcstasy(he got permalocked for flaming ebnet mods dunno if he plays now..)
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dzokavac on December 09, 2011, 19:38
filibis is noob i know it that for sure.atledih,hmmm.he play good but if game goes bad at start for he just flame and start going solo and die every sec.i know both of them and play with them many times.so nothing special obut them.with des_ups i didnt play soo i dont know.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: BrownTygeR on December 09, 2011, 19:40
Also u are not so good aswell lets see ur games:


22-05-2011 07:56:41   -ap eu noobs +1 #2   PUB      1481   3   5   1   29   12   3   WON
24-03-2011 22:55:01   ap eu noobs +1 fast #1   PUB      1497   3   4   2   19   2   0   LOST
24-03-2011 22:21:01   ap eu noobs +1   PUB      1513   4   2   7   118   10   0   WON
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: dzokavac on December 09, 2011, 19:43
in game nick ^shadow^fiend^ that is brother acc.^ ^
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: lord_kurai on December 09, 2011, 20:06
Boramir was also really good. Des_ups is from BG, he is not TR. The winners of the xpam nation cup were from TR.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Angel on December 09, 2011, 20:16
there was des_ups, pro tr player

Des_Ups and his brother Kel_Anyak were from Bulgaria.

As far as i know Kel was banned for MapHacking.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Natura Sonoris on December 09, 2011, 20:36
And u have me? we had sw33t_gurl(she was good support player) also my friend mcstasy(he got permalocked for flaming ebnet mods dunno if he plays now..)

nah sweet was newb , me pwned her always xd

Des ups was mher , and there is suspicion he used it again , but rumors
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Hi My Name Is Drago on December 09, 2011, 20:51
And u have me? we had sw33t_gurl(she was good support player) also my friend mcstasy(he got permalocked for flaming ebnet mods dunno if he plays now..)

nah sweet was newb , me pwned her always xd

Des ups was mher , and there is suspicion he used it again , but rumors
hahahaha sweet played sometimes with vaikiss,me, mantux and roro if i remember good :D
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: DoctaSpock on December 09, 2011, 22:47
They were from BG but they are Turks.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: sw33t_girl on December 11, 2011, 08:39
nah sweet was newb , me pwned her always xd
You wish...
lol
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: [kosarkas] on December 11, 2011, 15:14
I played with emburk he is from TR and he is good...
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: mrNiceguy on December 11, 2011, 16:11
Merhaba Bursa :D whotz up.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: rocknrolla on December 11, 2011, 19:45

. The other 1% are good or pro players looking to boost their skill and they are hard to catch (TeG-Kanga is an examle)
(http://www.picz.ro/pictures/5dd632afb81fe08feb49c852edcfb2df.jpg) (http://www.picz.ro)
 (http://www.picz.ro/pictures/116d32533a0e14718c1075c4a1cddb9d.jpg) (http://www.picz.ro)
 (http://www.picz.ro/pictures/0052d9b77f8ba8c11fee753739aa3a39.jpg) (http://www.picz.ro)
 (http://www.picz.ro/pictures/a9b52777dec7448e4ca4e22b28d4c757.jpg) (http://www.picz.ro)
He is the real TeG-Kanga, that's his name on a Romanian public platform.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: mrNiceguy on December 11, 2011, 19:57
Rapboy you alive dude?
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: rocknrolla on December 11, 2011, 21:20
Rapboy you alive dude?
Alive and kickin' :P
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: mrNiceguy on December 11, 2011, 21:28
If u r up for a game /w me, would like to play with "old" pd.eu players.
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: ComeAtMeHaterz on December 11, 2011, 22:11
lol @ kanga still maphackin like a baws  nothing changed
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Bart on December 12, 2011, 02:27
haha lol at kanga xaxaxa
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: rocknrolla on December 12, 2011, 09:33
If u r up for a game /w me, would like to play with "old" pd.eu players.
I looked you up when i logged in , you were offline ;[
Played a few games these days .. a bit too laggy  for me , 60-70 ms; + i remembered why i left in the first place : too many douchebags ;<
Title: Re: A lifetime of a maphacker
Post by: Rinop on December 12, 2011, 22:31
Well the problem with czech people for me at least is, i'm pretty sure they can understand me when im talking to them...

I can get that a TR guy that never played DotA and never used english in his life somehow got into the game im in... But ffs, i'm giving them the right advice to become a better player and they don't fucking care, that just pisses me off to no end..

about CZ as Im one of them, most slavic languages are understandable ;) not whole words, but meanings yeah

and about MH Im ashamed as CZ for that a lot of ppl are complaining on them :( but as Astaroth said in previous discussion with more ppl - more % of MH and TR, RO and CZ are one of most numerous ppl on EB so more % of MH... still those are some young noobs that dont think at all and rage...

and TR ppl are problem cause not of the nationality but not using EN for gaming at least few word that are international for dota  >:( they speak with their crazy language even 3 ppl here TR and rest europe and you cant speak to them about tactics and game the ignore you and full the chat by their nonsense sry its true

and yeah its heading to cleaned server now Im glad that Im still alive to see it  :)

As a TR player i can say most of the TR players are little kids. So thats why they use mh, thats why they can not speak english as others do.  (Ok, i admit our natinality is not good about english but thats not the main reason)
Personally i don't want to play with TR too because as i said they are kid, they flame too much, play nonesense most of the time. But most of the turkish player's psr is lower than 1600, so that doesn't make any different for me if they use mh or not. And one of the other reason people always realize TR mhers, there are more turkish players than all european, that changes statistics right?