plan A : now this plan is a plan i had in my mind .. and it need some hard work and someone who is coder and expert about dota files and stuff .. the idea is simple .. we all know that the mhers dont see the dots of neutural creeps on map (like in that spectre rampage case who wanted to join a pd tour) what i suggest is that someone work on pd bot so once the game starts it makes auto screenshot on all players so it auto perma ban someone who has no dots of neatural creeps and that way there cant be mhers in pd botlet me tell you something for this idea. The game starts, nobody is using MH, pd.eu has taken screenshot and guess what then ? then they turn on MH and play, i mean they just wait until pd.eu takes ss and they turn mh and go play
Well, it can take screenshot randomly, not only on start. Plus there are no neutrals at very beginning of game so ss will say nothing and lot of mhers shows themself in this time - clicks in first 2 minutes, before creeps are spawned.Quoteplan A : now this plan is a plan i had in my mind .. and it need some hard work and someone who is coder and expert about dota files and stuff .. the idea is simple .. we all know that the mhers dont see the dots of neutural creeps on map (like in that spectre rampage case who wanted to join a pd tour) what i suggest is that someone work on pd bot so once the game starts it makes auto screenshot on all players so it auto perma ban someone who has no dots of neatural creeps and that way there cant be mhers in pd botlet me tell you something for this idea. The game starts, nobody is using MH, pd.eu has taken screenshot and guess what then ? then they turn on MH and play, i mean they just wait until pd.eu takes ss and they turn mh and go play
imo there shouldnt even be considered to ban ip range. Only if all those from that range are caught at least once, alse it is totally unfair. but then you still have there maybe come more players from that range playing here and first thing they get is that they cannot playi really think that people who share same ip are actually take advantage of the mher not that they are new and decide to play dota then they find it locked .. also if its unfair to not let like 1 or 2 players play on same ip .. i dont think that its unfair that this mher ruins games every day too
ip range ban sux, i sometimes have to restart modem to connect to ebnet forums cause it says Your ip is banned.then dont do ip ban and make a better solution .. my plan A is just example because to banning accounts is not a solution or find a way to detect mh in game immidiatly
But we are working on hardware bans. Time is the key to life
QuoteBut we are working on hardware bans. Time is the key to life
Yea, random ss' are nice idea... But I'm afraid it's very hard to achieve :-\Well, it can take screenshot randomly, not only on start. Plus there are no neutrals at very beginning of game so ss will say nothing and lot of mhers shows themself in this time - clicks in first 2 minutes, before creeps are spawned.Quoteplan A : now this plan is a plan i had in my mind .. and it need some hard work and someone who is coder and expert about dota files and stuff .. the idea is simple .. we all know that the mhers dont see the dots of neutural creeps on map (like in that spectre rampage case who wanted to join a pd tour) what i suggest is that someone work on pd bot so once the game starts it makes auto screenshot on all players so it auto perma ban someone who has no dots of neatural creeps and that way there cant be mhers in pd botlet me tell you something for this idea. The game starts, nobody is using MH, pd.eu has taken screenshot and guess what then ? then they turn on MH and play, i mean they just wait until pd.eu takes ss and they turn mh and go play
It would be good if it takes screenshot in every 10 minutes randomly. 1st ss in 03:25, 2nd 17:42, 3rd 20:07 and so on.
But it sounds like spyware and every1 has some firewalls and antivirus programs...
A.plan players will need to play whit program.We would need to force eb to make it in installer
Still there are half of people who doesn't know what's forum what they need to download,will that hurt their computer etc also we need everything that whit ebSomething like "I didn't know" is no excuse. People are stupid (not only pd.eu players) and they don't care.
ell, I believe most of the players here wouldn't have nothing against playing with some sort of a client, if it would make the game more enjoyable and with less amount of mh players
can i ask one q? i was sick of pwned in cs so i dl some walhack. the moment i tuned it on, i got permaban. that was few years ago. still can play it on balkan.express. why this cant be done for dota too?
I think there would be less number of MHers coz they would get sick of making new acc and e-mail after every single game...Quoteell, I believe most of the players here wouldn't have nothing against playing with some sort of a client, if it would make the game more enjoyable and with less amount of mh playersSS will solve nothing - its like you catch MH and he makes account over and over. First catch a mh and make him last game he plays here and period.
ok now i decided to open this topic because i think its imba important to discuss it and its mainly on mhersyou frend is my ... i give you frend +1 !
recently any dota player can clearly see the increase numbers of mhers and in my opinion they split on 2
1- 80% of percentage which who join noob games get score get reported then make new account and thats their circle in dota life
2- 20% who join pro games and hide their mh and when they are caughted they make new account and act like good clean people
according to rules when someone use mh he get perma banned on his account but i disagree with this because it isnt really (punishment) since they can just make new account like np thats why i decided to make 2 plans .. the hard one which will solve this problem for perma and the easy one which can be unfair
plan A : now this plan is a plan i had in my mind .. and it need some hard work and someone who is coder and expert about dota files and stuff .. the idea is simple .. we all know that the mhers dont see the dots of neutural creeps on map (like in that spectre rampage case who wanted to join a pd tour) what i suggest is that someone work on pd bot so once the game starts it makes auto screenshot on all players so it auto perma ban someone who has no dots of neatural creeps and that way there cant be mhers in pd bot
plan B : this was suggested probably 1000 time yes and its ip ban .. ok first of all i know that some ppl have dynamic ip so thats why i suggest ip range ban if needed .. what i understood is that you cant ip ban because it can be unfair to the other ppl in same ip.. ok i have this question to you guys .. dont other ppl know that xxx player is mher? i think the answer will be yes because i dont believe that someone is using mh and other ppl with same ip dont take advantage for it therefore going for the ip ban and if we assumed that someone will be banned in fairly i will guys tell you that mher ruins the game for all ppl in game
the reason that made me right this topic is because of my last games that i played
http://playdota.eu/stats/player/1/the_justice (http://playdota.eu/stats/player/1/the_justice)
you will see that i lost in most of them the reason is because of mhers .. but im kinda getting bored of reporting everyone since it wont matter since he can make new account .. in my last game i played
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2394431/sd-pdeu-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2394431/sd-pdeu-1)
in this game all players were mhers except me and slark and sniper which make this game is unplayable (you can also watch replay to see how they play) totally unplayable game in mhers vs mhers games
conclusion : perma banning accounts is not a solution !! we must find a better one cheers
you can't stop maphackers if they know to use it properly, for example night^^stalker.If bot would do screenshots randomly I think it can stop smart MHers... They would need MH which leaves fog on minimap but remove for from normal look/game, if you understand me. And I don't think there is such a MH.
How about just add "account verification".
For example:
You are a new player. You register on eb.net and try to join pd.eu games. Upon joining pd.eu games you will get a /w to verify account, on English and your first language(based ofc on IP). In order to verify the account you will need to scan an ID card (taking a picture of it will do if you don't have scanner, it also doesn't have to be yours, it can be you mother's father's brother's etc) and send it to pd.eu, or the bot won't allow you to play more that 5 games(?). When you make a new account, you can't ofc use the same ID again.
This way, mhers can use: their ID(if they have one), father, mother, sister, brother (most ppl have only few siblings) and potentially grandparents, friends, neighbors(although I doubt anyone would allow someone to use their ID card). This way they can make only few accounts (based on a number of ID cards they have available).
This would also make it more difficult to make new accounts. Eventually all accounts will get permaban and no accounts are available.
BUT, the pd.eu would need some specialized software that would analyse the ID pictures the players send (since doing it manually would be impossible). It would also take longer time (based on the time needed to catch them and ban all their accounts).
I got a few ideas i will see what can be done
I got some ideas about program like bnet warden to stop mh program's(will see if it can be coded)mauhahahah , bnet warden LOOOL XDDD