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Strategy Discussion Section => Strategy => Topic started by: Alucardo on August 05, 2011, 06:16
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i wanted to share u the best furion build i ever made
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2230876/ap-eu-1600-min-1-fast-2 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2230876/ap-eu-1600-min-1-fast-2)
so guys what is urs? what r the builds that u make for furion?
P.S since i saw mym made vlad with cm i thought about making something more unique
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If the_justice==noob:
Say in forum his noob
else:
Say his pro
the_justice is noob.
As u can see python doesnt lie.
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try
{if ("python".equals(logicalStream.getController())){
language.setDenied(true);}
}
catch(TooDumbLanguageException tdle){
system.out.println("PITON? LUWL");
}
finally{
system.out.println("tze_djutsctice is definitely retarded");
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lol poor justice, i know u were playing at your most. but your could help more and farm less...
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OK, seriously, you call bot and refresher the best furion build you have ever made? Then what do the others look like?
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Your build sucks, and you're annoying with that MYM already :D
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P.S since i saw mym made vlad with cm i thought about making something more unique
imo its normal, the mym player was supporting a meele carry
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u guys r so funny rly!! the topic is about what u will make with furion build not laughing about mine!
i did that build on purpose thought it will be good for ultimate pushing
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers thats if u think my build sucks say ur best then
@chelom i intended to push and when u guys r atking i use my ulti twice (i calculated it with my brain) i could deal about 1000 damage vs all their heroes while im just pushing (but zeos ulti would deal little much more damage)but zeos cant push + my idea of refresher was also to make 10 trees to push hardly!!
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u guys r so funny rly!! the topic is about what u will make with furion build not laughing about mine!
i did that build on purpose thought it will be good for ultimate pushing
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers thats if u think my build sucks say ur best then
@chelom i intended to push and when u guys r atking i use my ulti twice (i calculated it with my brain) i could deal about 1000 damage vs all their heroes while im just pushing (but zeos ulti would deal little much more damage)but zeos cant push + my idea of refresher was also to make 10 trees to push hardly!!
U can make 10 trees without refresher, they don't expire that fast. Refresher on furion is just waste of gold and item slot, there are so much better items.
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u guys r so funny rly!! the topic is about what u will make with furion build not laughing about mine!
i did that build on purpose thought it will be good for ultimate pushing
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers thats if u think my build sucks say ur best then
@chelom i intended to push and when u guys r atking i use my ulti twice (i calculated it with my brain) i could deal about 1000 damage vs all their heroes while im just pushing (but zeos ulti would deal little much more damage)but zeos cant push + my idea of refresher was also to make 10 trees to push hardly!!
U can make 10 trees without refresher, they don't expire that fast. Refresher on furion is just waste of gold and item slot, there are so much better items.
it seems u dont understand with small letters so i made it with bigger one
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers
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u guys r so funny rly!! the topic is about what u will make with furion build not laughing about mine!
i did that build on purpose thought it will be good for ultimate pushing
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers thats if u think my build sucks say ur best then
@chelom i intended to push and when u guys r atking i use my ulti twice (i calculated it with my brain) i could deal about 1000 damage vs all their heroes while im just pushing (but zeos ulti would deal little much more damage)but zeos cant push + my idea of refresher was also to make 10 trees to push hardly!!
U can make 10 trees without refresher, they don't expire that fast. Refresher on furion is just waste of gold and item slot, there are so much better items.
it seems u dont understand with small letters so i made it with bigger one
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers
You srsly amaze me with your stupidity
I'm just explaining that ur build isn't good. If u wanted ultimate pushing meka/vlads would do it much better and some good orb skadi/desolator, maybe hex so u can port gank and get back to pushing after etc.
Refresher is waste of gold/space on furion.
I didn't play furion for ages, last that I remember this was pretty rape build:
treads, skadi, hex, buriza. After that u can go scepter, orchid, mkb, whatever you need.
With only those 4 items I did ~700-800 crit had extra disable mass hp/mana slow, it just owned. Dunno if they nerfed or did smth to furion when they changed his model cos I don't rly pay much attention to him but that build was badass, tho it's expensive (skadi?).
Edit: Forgot -.-
You can after also go desolator/mjolnir after those 4 items for mass dps or satanic for lifesteal cos as far as I know it skadi isn't orb on range hero (tho desolator will override it or it will override desolator but damage stays and mjolnir lightning stays, and for satanic - it stacks with skadi) and since sange and yasha isn't orb anymore I might try that too :O
On second thought, I wouldn't go desolator with other buffs.
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u guys r so funny rly!! the topic is about what u will make with furion build not laughing about mine!
i did that build on purpose thought it will be good for ultimate pushing
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers thats if u think my build sucks say ur best then
@chelom i intended to push and when u guys r atking i use my ulti twice (i calculated it with my brain) i could deal about 1000 damage vs all their heroes while im just pushing (but zeos ulti would deal little much more damage)but zeos cant push + my idea of refresher was also to make 10 trees to push hardly!!
U can make 10 trees without refresher, they don't expire that fast. Refresher on furion is just waste of gold and item slot, there are so much better items.
it seems u dont understand with small letters so i made it with bigger one
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers
You srsly amaze me with your stupidity
I'm just explaining that ur build isn't good. If u wanted ultimate pushing meka/vlads would do it much better and some good orb skadi/desolator, maybe hex so u can port gank and get back to pushing after etc.
Refresher is waste of gold/space on furion.
I didn't play furion for ages, last that I remember this was pretty rape build:
treads, skadi, hex, buriza. After that u can go scepter, orchid, mkb, whatever you need.
With only those 4 items I did ~700-800 crit had extra disable mass hp/mana slow, it just owned. Dunno if they nerfed or did smth to furion when they changed his model cos I don't rly pay much attention to him but that build was badass, tho it's expensive (skadi?).
ahahaha wait wait .. u call me stupid???? then explain me what is this
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2218859/ar-eu-1550-5 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2218859/ar-eu-1550-5)
and yeah ur the stupid here that u cant actually read that the topic is about what build should furion have but u keep trolling here and saying my build sucks
and if u didnt play furion for ages why u r even commenting here?
P.S ur build is amazing with meka and vlad now im amazed
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u guys r so funny rly!! the topic is about what u will make with furion build not laughing about mine!
i did that build on purpose thought it will be good for ultimate pushing
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers thats if u think my build sucks say ur best then
@chelom i intended to push and when u guys r atking i use my ulti twice (i calculated it with my brain) i could deal about 1000 damage vs all their heroes while im just pushing (but zeos ulti would deal little much more damage)but zeos cant push + my idea of refresher was also to make 10 trees to push hardly!!
U can make 10 trees without refresher, they don't expire that fast. Refresher on furion is just waste of gold and item slot, there are so much better items.
it seems u dont understand with small letters so i made it with bigger one
now discuss what u will make with furion cheers
You srsly amaze me with your stupidity
I'm just explaining that ur build isn't good. If u wanted ultimate pushing meka/vlads would do it much better and some good orb skadi/desolator, maybe hex so u can port gank and get back to pushing after etc.
Refresher is waste of gold/space on furion.
I didn't play furion for ages, last that I remember this was pretty rape build:
treads, skadi, hex, buriza. After that u can go scepter, orchid, mkb, whatever you need.
With only those 4 items I did ~700-800 crit had extra disable mass hp/mana slow, it just owned. Dunno if they nerfed or did smth to furion when they changed his model cos I don't rly pay much attention to him but that build was badass, tho it's expensive (skadi?).
ahahaha wait wait .. u call me stupid???? then explain me what is this
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2218859/ar-eu-1550-5 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2218859/ar-eu-1550-5)
and yeah ur the stupid here that u cant actually read that the topic is about what build should furion have but u keep trolling here and saying my build sucks
and if u didnt play furion for ages why u r even commenting here?
P.S ur build is amazing with meka and vlad now im amazed
If you watched that game, which u didn't, u would see that sniper/dk had 4 deaths at first 7 mins, yurnero didn't have bladestorm but he had WARD and they fed hard. I would rather leave than lose my nerves in that game. Hell, I can wait 6 days, it's not like I'm nolifer like.. >_>
And obviously I know more about this than u :O
nhf :p
Edit about ur last post: I'm not playing much on this serv, playin dota since 2005 with some breaks, u do the math :)
Also, pretty much same psr 300+ games difference?
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u know more than me .. so obvious that i have much more games than u + better psr =)
ontopic : ty for sharing ur opinion about furion build about (desolator + eyes of shadi) i will reconsider making it next time
pls stick to this topic and tell me what u guys wonna make with furion
P.S bemus no need for more trolling u said ur build and no need for offtopic
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i wanted to share u the best furion build i ever made
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2230876/ap-eu-1600-min-1-fast-2 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2230876/ap-eu-1600-min-1-fast-2)
so guys what is urs? what r the builds that u make for furion?
P.S since i saw mym made vlad with cm i thought about making something more unique
You just dig yourself more and more ...
Btw vlads are 100% aura item ,so why caryy should waste 1 slot for vlads when cm can easily make vlads for team purpouse
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i wanted to share u the best furion build i ever made
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2230876/ap-eu-1600-min-1-fast-2 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2230876/ap-eu-1600-min-1-fast-2)
so guys what is urs? what r the builds that u make for furion?
P.S since i saw mym made vlad with cm i thought about making something more unique
You just dig yourself more and more ...
Btw vlads are 100% aura item ,so why caryy should waste 1 slot for vlads when cm can easily make vlads for team purpouse
icy ur forum mod and ur going offtopic and spamming .. stay on topic
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Well, furion is one of my favorites heroes . I have really tried all on him. So I give, first my opinion on the_justice build, then , my build.
@the_justice your build sux :P . Np if u wanna be original, but be original with something that helps team. Refresher brings nothing to furion. As someone already wrote, u can have 10 trees like np, and if u wanna push fast, just go mjollnir (if u wanna see electrical beam after electrical beam :) ). Waisting gold and a slot for a vladi just for a bunch of trees, is not really a good idea. Specially if team has some anti-pusher (jakiro, pit, u name it).
In that case, just let trees in lvl 1 (for warding) and go on to gank, and just push when they are all dead.
skadi is not an orb effect on range, but is a puff placer , same as deso. so one overrides the other. as someone pointed out, the dmg stays, but u are not making full use of your items.
being furion an imba farmer, he is a very versatil hero. There isnt "the build" for furion. its just a matter of questions:
1) is there a "real" carry in your team
2) is there a "real" carry in the other team
3) is there a blinker in the other team (very important question)
so based upon that, u should make your build.
1) and 3) are no, just go full dps with whatever combination u want
treats, mjollnir, buriza, orchid, (manta , butterfly) <-- just a matter of taste. mjollnir and mkb wont work together (damage does, but u have to chose lightning or true shot) . u cant also have skadi and mjollnir at the same time
1) and 2) are true, u should get some support items, and some hp. Aghanim so u can farm faster your hex (and get some HP in the mean time) and if your team lacks disablers/stunner, u should go life steal as orb effect and after hex get some dmg items (mkb, buriza) or if u are doing well with gold, skadi . If u have a lot of teammembers that need attack speed, get cuirass right after dominator and then get the dmg items.
3) if this is true, u should be carefull. they will go direct to u when they have the chance. in fact, they will open themselves, so u trap them in trees and then rape your ass. Heroes like that are: magina, riki, potm, pudge, venge , mortred and any blinker like magnatur, axe, cent if u are not fast enough to hit them once u have trapped them.
in those cases, rush hex and do dominator as orb and always be with someone. in teamfights, they will get at you anyway, so thats why i recommend dominator, so u last a little longer. With other orb effect, u wont last 3-5 seconds in late game vs the heroes named above (even if u outfarmed them).
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Well, furion is one of my favorites heroes . I have really tried all on him. So I give, first my opinion on the_justice build, then , my build.
@the_justice your build sux :P . Np if u wanna be original, but be original with something that helps team. Refresher brings nothing to furion. As someone already wrote, u can have 10 trees like np, and if u wanna push fast, just go mjollnir (if u wanna see electrical beam after electrical beam :) ). Waisting gold and a slot for a vladi just for a bunch of trees, is not really a good idea. Specially if team has some anti-pusher (jakiro, pit, u name it).
In that case, just let trees in lvl 1 (for warding) and go on to gank, and just push when they are all dead.
skadi is not an orb effect on range, but is a puff placer , same as deso. so one overrides the other. as someone pointed out, the dmg stays, but u are not making full use of your items.
being furion an imba farmer, he is a very versatil hero. There isnt "the build" for furion. its just a matter of questions:
1) is there a "real" carry in your team
2) is there a "real" carry in the other team
3) is there a blinker in the other team (very important question)
so based upon that, u should make your build.
1) and 3) are no, just go full dps with whatever combination u want
treats, mjollnir, buriza, orchid, (manta , butterfly) <-- just a matter of taste. mjollnir and mkb wont work together (damage does, but u have to chose lightning or true shot) . u cant also have skadi and mjollnir at the same time
1) and 2) are true, u should get some support items, and some hp. Aghanim so u can farm faster your hex (and get some HP in the mean time) and if your team lacks disablers/stunner, u should go life steal as orb effect and after hex get some dmg items (mkb, buriza) or if u are doing well with gold, skadi . If u have a lot of teammembers that need attack speed, get cuirass right after dominator and then get the dmg items.
3) if this is true, u should be carefull. they will go direct to u when they have the chance. in fact, they will open themselves, so u trap them in trees and then rape your ass. Heroes like that are: magina, riki, potm, pudge, venge , mortred and any blinker like magnatur, axe, cent if u are not fast enough to hit them once u have trapped them.
in those cases, rush hex and do dominator as orb and always be with someone. in teamfights, they will get at you anyway, so thats why i recommend dominator, so u last a little longer. With other orb effect, u wont last 3-5 seconds in late game vs the heroes named above (even if u outfarmed them).
perfect answer tnx for sharing :) finally someone isnt going offtopic :P so i got ur opinion and bemus opinions i wonna c more specially with heroes like furion
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Well, furion is one of my favorites heroes . I have really tried all on him. So I give, first my opinion on the_justice build, then , my build.
@the_justice your build sux :P . Np if u wanna be original, but be original with something that helps team. Refresher brings nothing to furion. As someone already wrote, u can have 10 trees like np, and if u wanna push fast, just go mjollnir (if u wanna see electrical beam after electrical beam :) ). Waisting gold and a slot for a vladi just for a bunch of trees, is not really a good idea. Specially if team has some anti-pusher (jakiro, pit, u name it).
In that case, just let trees in lvl 1 (for warding) and go on to gank, and just push when they are all dead.
skadi is not an orb effect on range, but is a puff placer , same as deso. so one overrides the other. as someone pointed out, the dmg stays, but u are not making full use of your items.
being furion an imba farmer, he is a very versatil hero. There isnt "the build" for furion. its just a matter of questions:
1) is there a "real" carry in your team
2) is there a "real" carry in the other team
3) is there a blinker in the other team (very important question)
so based upon that, u should make your build.
1) and 3) are no, just go full dps with whatever combination u want
treats, mjollnir, buriza, orchid, (manta , butterfly) <-- just a matter of taste. mjollnir and mkb wont work together (damage does, but u have to chose lightning or true shot) . u cant also have skadi and mjollnir at the same time
1) and 2) are true, u should get some support items, and some hp. Aghanim so u can farm faster your hex (and get some HP in the mean time) and if your team lacks disablers/stunner, u should go life steal as orb effect and after hex get some dmg items (mkb, buriza) or if u are doing well with gold, skadi . If u have a lot of teammembers that need attack speed, get cuirass right after dominator and then get the dmg items.
3) if this is true, u should be carefull. they will go direct to u when they have the chance. in fact, they will open themselves, so u trap them in trees and then rape your ass. Heroes like that are: magina, riki, potm, pudge, venge , mortred and any blinker like magnatur, axe, cent if u are not fast enough to hit them once u have trapped them.
in those cases, rush hex and do dominator as orb and always be with someone. in teamfights, they will get at you anyway, so thats why i recommend dominator, so u last a little longer. With other orb effect, u wont last 3-5 seconds in late game vs the heroes named above (even if u outfarmed them).
even I wouldnt write it better ;)
good overview
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i think what ur rly doing is what is called offtopic if u have something about furion build post it here if not then dont even bother urself commenting
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Arggg.... Remember that game! Lol
I rofl when i saw you bought BOOTS OF TRAVEL !! :)
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Arggg.... Remember that game! Lol
I rofl when i saw you bought BOOTS OF TRAVEL !! :)
why not lol
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Butterfly for furi ?? O.o
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Butterfly for furi ?? O.o
it seems pubish and nubish but its not its pretty awsome on him he can support as carry the team and in that situation its handy as any dmg AS items ;)
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Imo i always go > HoM, Agha, PT, Hex, Ac (Or Shivas - to get some armor and to help ur team as well) And some random carry item to can help vs enemies carry. :)
But about BoT, well, quite good maybe, if u do blink, tp all the time, cuz i always buy TP before i port somewhere to push, cuz as usually i expect enemies to maybe be there. So maybe good idea to get in mid game :)
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I go like
1: Treads / Travel
2: Hand of Midas
And then you can play as carry
1: Buriza
2: Mjolhnir (rofl how you write that? :P)
3: Monkey
4: Orchid
Also as Support
1: Aghanims
2: Orchid
3: Shivas
4: Hex
With hoteys on of course.
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My furion buid :
- midas (cause he rich, and midas is more rich, and carry needs rich)
- aghanim spetar (to make more rich even more and better carry)
- travel (to farm everywere and teleprout not enouv and enemy can gank cause I EXPET THEY GANK (im not nnob))
- dagger (cause need skill to XCape, you're cary dont foget THEY MAI GANK)
- frogstaf (cause if you spourt vengefull she can swap in spourt and its shame so you frogstaf ouf of spourt 8) 8) )
- mask of madesn (ccarry item)
discuss (i think) ::)
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My furion buid :
- midas (cause he rich, and midas is more rich, and carry needs rich)
- aghanim spetar (to make more rich even more and better carry)
- travel (to farm everywere and teleprout not enouv and enemy can gank cause I EXPET THEY GANK (im not nnob))
- dagger (cause need skill to XCape, you're cary dont foget THEY MAI GANK)
- frogstaf (cause if you spourt vengefull she can swap in spourt and its shame so you frogstaf ouf of spourt 8) 8) )
- mask of madesn (ccarry item)
Discuss ?
Here u go> MoM > TOTAL FAIL on his 1.8k hp on 25 lvl with those items and lol nice dmg to use Mom :D
discuss (i think) ::)
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Thank you for discussing.
More discuss now please.
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My furion buid :
- midas (cause he rich, and midas is more rich, and carry needs rich)
- aghanim spetar (to make more rich even more and better carry)
- travel (to farm everywere and teleprout not enouv and enemy can gank cause I EXPET THEY GANK (im not nnob))
- dagger (cause need skill to XCape, you're cary dont foget THEY MAI GANK)
- frogstaf (cause if you spourt vengefull she can swap in spourt and its shame so you frogstaf ouf of spourt 8) 8) )
- mask of madesn (ccarry item)
discuss (i think) ::)
nice agree but it depends on game sometimes are better some times then other but midas and PT and agha is core if you are not real supporter then there are better stuff like necro and RoB so more push/support built but if like carry after core you can have what you want or what is need - hex, shiva,AC,and carry items ;)
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That's exactly the kind of answer I was waiting for.
Thx for your concern.
Feel free to discus more, girls and guys.
You nice! (http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/1/lapin_vert.gif)
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goldy ?
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With hoteys on of course.
you some kind of pro? you navi?
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I go like
1: Treads / Travel
2: Hand of Midas
And then you can play as carry
1: Buriza
2: Mjolhnir (rofl how you write that? :P)
3: Monkey
4: Satanic
Also as Support
1: Aghanims
2: Orchid
3: Shivas
4: Hex
With hoteys on of course.
Just my opinion :
travel o.O ???
mjolnir + satanic o.O ???
carry build on furion without orchid o.O ???
Anyway this topic seems almost pointless.. except the 1st post , the_justice game . AWESOME =))) ;D ;D ;D
LMAO :))) ... man that build should be awarded for something ..anything =))
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ops delete satanic
and place orchid sorry my bad
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With hoteys on of course.
you some kind of pro? you navi?
??? whats you want hater?
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you some kind of pro? you navi?
Few weeks ago was MYM. I loled
MYM>NaVi
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I didnt loled, i got serious :D
I lie, i LOLEEEEED ! :D
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u try be fun fellah? epic fail. there isnt a best build on furion as long as u r playing against human players. having a prebuild in mind is just like chosing ur first spell/ability at the fountain without knoing whos gonna be on the lane with u or what power up will spawn. monkey business. for ex, when i play with furion, cast force of nature a couple of secs before creeps spawn and go farm; ofc with basilius and a pack of tangos. anyways, furion is a very strong hero with real gang capabilities and in time u can transorm him in anything but no fuckign way in what u did there.
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Ultimate pushing with furion? Well, for sure not Refresher+Scepter. Why? Cuz only refresher will kill all creeps in 2 lanes, and heavily damage creeps in one lane. Cd of ur ult is 60 seconds. Creeps spawn every 30 seconds. So ud actually wait 30 seconds in order to use ult again with refresher, or 60 without refresher...
Buy something better. For pushing furions a standard NecroBook will do the work. Dont get Boot if u dont want to upgrade it already. Dagon rush is for the gankers, for the farmers its Midas ---> Hex. Anyway unless hardcore pushing, Hex should be ur item either after Dagon or Midas (Since u like MYM u might as well go midas since thats what Maelk always does xD) For clearing creep waves you could get a maelstrom/mjollnir, or Radiance (for teh lulz, nevah tested).
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I go like
1: Treads / Travel
2: Hand of Midas
And then you can play as carry
1: Buriza
2: Mjolhnir (rofl how you write that? :P)
3: Monkey
4: Orchid
Also as Support
1: Aghanims
2: Orchid
3: Shivas
4: Hex
With hoteys on of course.
Kind of good build
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With hoteys on of course.
you some kind of pro? you navi?
??? whats you want hater?
huehue
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You'r pissing me of -.-
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Id say a Hex is a must.
He has no survivability at all and his best bet at DPSing a target down is when overfarmed (he will be actually) while the target is standing in Sprout. But most carries can just jump out and pwn his ass, so id rather go him as a support / ganker / pusher, he does all 3 of these in the same time fairly well... But yeah he can go carry, with the Midas - Mjolnir - Skadi build i guess...
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Id say a Hex is a must.
He has no survivability at all and his best bet at DPSing a target down is when overfarmed (he will be actually) while the target is standing in Sprout. But most carries can just jump out and pwn his ass, so id rather go him as a support / ganker / pusher, he does all 3 of these in the same time fairly well... But yeah he can go carry, with the Midas - Mjolnir - Skadi build i guess...
only spectre can from "carries"
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Lets not talk about Riki, Mort, Void, Morp, Magina, Nessaj... Yeah and Spectre... And the oh so overcostly QB...
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Lets not talk about Riki, Mort, Void, Morp, Magina, Nessaj... Yeah and Spectre... And the oh so overcostly QB...
QB deserves its cost its so imba for last-hitting and farming ;)
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Lets not talk about Riki, Mort, Void, Morp, Magina, Nessaj... Yeah and Spectre... And the oh so overcostly QB...
QB deserves its cost its so imba for last-hitting and farming ;)
I used sarcasm
My point was that QB counters sprout, so u can freely attack Furion.
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mkb and skady wont work at the same time or mkb and mjollnir
did any of u read my imba post about furion build? :'(