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General Section => Suggestion Board => Topic started by: Sphinix on July 22, 2011, 20:55
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Currently it is this:
RULE BAN
1st time 2nd time 3rd time 4th time
Flaming 2 days 5 days 2 weeks Permanently
I suggest this:
RULE BAN
1st time 2nd time 3rd time 4th time
Hard flaming 7 days 10 days 20 weeks Permanently
Flaming 2 hours 3 hours 12 hours 1 day
Whispering flames after you are ignored : 10 days
Flaming: Noob, Retard, Idiot, Moron
Hard flame: mentioning mother, family members, god etc......
On this site it is really allowed too much. Too much flaming, too much whining, too much hatred, too many bad things.
I played few games on dotalicious and I never had this problem. There is everyone or at least 99% of the players friendly. Everyone shares curier, no flaming etc..... This site could/should learn from that one. For exsample rules (check them out if you have time):
http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php/topic,2393.0.html (http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php/topic,2393.0.html)
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Since this site has problem with too many games played banning rotten apples is not going to harm. It will only make this place friendlier.
It is apsurd that person who leaves (goes afk. Would you stay and listen who someone is telling you what he did to your mother and sister constantly?) because of hard flamer is banned for more or less the same time as flamer. (who could get away with it because some requests are simply locked and ignored).
Flaming is tolerated too much here. This site looks more like some adult site and should have warning: DO NOT ENTER IF YOU ARE NOT OLDER THAN 18 YEARS!!!
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Well I mostly agree with you but seriously, noob, idiot, retard & moron is flaming to you?
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well ur suggestion has pros and cons .. i will say the cons since u said the pros
1-u will c in the next day the ban section full of reports .. and seriesly 2 or 3 hours wont rly punish him and he rly wont care about it .. it will increase the reports than its now already and more work to mods
2-this will release more hatred in ppl's hearts vs each other .. someone noob can like say some stupid things and ur rly mad and want to express ur feelings but u cant since ITS bannable to call a noob idiot or retard or something and it could even make flamings and game ruinings more ... i think this probably will happen
(REPORT ME RETARD IDIOT ur just fucking noob and fag GO ULTI XXX WHY DIDNT USE XXX fuck u and fuck this team) and the other dont listen to him while he is actually the game ruiner .. eventually the one who said between brackets is the one who got banned
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I disagree. Everybody sometimes says "idiot, retard" and that isn't flame and it shouldn't be.
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I disagree. Everybody sometimes says "idiot, retard" and that isn't flame and it shouldn't be.
man i dont say it isnt flame or anything .. but u r playing for fun and everytime u must c someone saying idiot and retard and stuff why?
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I disagree. Everybody sometimes says "idiot, retard" and that isn't flame and it shouldn't be.
man i dont say it isnt flame or anything .. but u r playing for fun and everytime u must c someone saying idiot and retard and stuff why?
I don't care what are they saying, I just ignore them :D
And sometimes I say those stuff too when I'm angry, and I don't think it should be tolerated as flame.
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I disagree. Everybody sometimes says "idiot, retard" and that isn't flame and it shouldn't be.
man i dont say it isnt flame or anything .. but u r playing for fun and everytime u must c someone saying idiot and retard and stuff why?
I don't care what are they saying, I just ignore them :D
And sometimes I say those stuff too when I'm angry, and I don't think it should be tolerated as flame.
YEAH ignore command the most used solution when someone is trolling u at game .. every game (almost EVERY EVERY GAME)1 player in team is ignored or opposite and it will just lead to no team work and to no communication between the team and they could win ..but too bad 2 ppl fight and it lead to their lost. . and yeah whenever im angry i will flame the whole world
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ive been thinking about this also
i would be better if players would be baned for noob,retard,idiot because so, all of them we`ll be more civilized
you wouldnt see so dumb players around ..the kind o players that only swear all the game
+.with this environment all new players will become like the ones mentioned above..and thats not a good thing for real life
i personally started using words like tard and nab in real life and i dont like this
why dota players cant be polite to each other and show some respect?
i want a good reply
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Well I mostly agree with you but seriously, noob, idiot, retard & moron is flaming to you?
Not when are used few times but when are constantly spammed yes.
Accordint to NiGhT^^StAlKeR( Ban & Unban Moderator) this is not a flame(wasnt talking to me):
19:53 arnax (Allies) lancer idiot
24:32 arnax (Allies) lancer idiot
24:49 arnax (All) tard
25:07 arnax (All) makes you pathetic also
26:49 arnax (Allies) imba reaction team
30:54 arnax (Allies) you suck team
31:34 arnax (Allies) no fagtard
31:37 arnax (Allies) so fuck off
34:02 arnax (All) lame useless team
35:05 arnax (Allies) dont talk idiot
35:25 arnax (Allies) nope tard - learn to play in team (lol he had 1 assist in entire game)
36:59 arnax (All) ok i will not enter - you idiots you ruined my farm - you should pwn everythong now - but you dont - you just wasted
37:57 arnax (Allies) eat shit tard and dont talk - go google "teamplay"
38:07 arnax (Allies) you played like total fags topwards me
38:59 arnax (Allies) i was playing - YOU made me useless. thanks a lot fags
So you honestly say this is not flame??????
I am sharing this pc with my younger brother and I really dont want him to read profanity that is allowed on this site. Dotalicious is proof that it is possible to have normal enviroment.
Nothing incites crime more than not punishing it!
This is only getting worse and worse. Exsample above shows you that moderators tolerate more and more flaming and profanity.
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Where have u seen on this FORUM flame? Show me where? In game is something different and if you cant handle that someone calls u idiot AND if your not capable to write !ignore nickname then you should go and play on that famous wannabe platform your writing about.
Also do not advertise platforms here cause this is not advertising site. The rules like they are now will be changed in some better way but that "flame" rule will not be changed for now and those words will never be considerd as flame, you want to know why check this:
http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=94183 (http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=94183)
- By heavy insults, we mostly refer to racism, religion / nation related insults, continuous insults regarding families and any other similar to it. Words like 'noob', 'idiot', 'retard' should be out of question.
So why would be ban for something that is not consider as flame on www.eurobattle.net (http://www.eurobattle.net) and our bot is connected on that server.
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Whispering flames after you are ignored : 10 days
whisper has nothing to do with playdota.eu , if someone whispers you than you have to report him at ebnet
and someone toldme that you get there permaban for trash talking
i was lajk lulz
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Whispering flames after you are ignored : 10 days
whisper has nothing to do with playdota.eu , if someone whispers you than you have to report him at ebnet
and someone toldme that you get there permaban for trash talking
i was lajk lulz
In english, a common thing to say when ur mad is "Noob".
In some languages, common thing to say is "Je*em ti mater" or translated: "I f*ck ur mother"
However, since here we obviously only respect english slang language traditions, mentioning some stuff in other language, even if it is only to ur friends, is highly bannable these days from my experience... Nowadays u cant even argue with a friend, cuz someone else reports u that u argued with a friend and u get banned... Huh, nevermind, ill just go play my next game, !ignore everyone and seperate myself from any chance of getting a ban :D
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Where have u seen on this FORUM flame? Show me where? In game is something different and if you cant handle that someone calls u idiot AND if your not capable to write !ignore nickname then you should go and play on that famous wannabe platform your writing about.
Also do not advertise platforms here cause this is not advertising site. The rules like they are now will be changed in some better way but that "flame" rule will not be changed for now and those words will never be considerd as flame, you want to know why check this:
http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=94183 (http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=94183)
- By heavy insults, we mostly refer to racism, religion / nation related insults, continuous insults regarding families and any other similar to it. Words like 'noob', 'idiot', 'retard' should be out of question.
So why would be ban for something that is not consider as flame on www.eurobattle.net (http://www.eurobattle.net) and our bot is connected on that server.
Ultimate response from admins when they dont like what is beeing said:
Go play garena/Go away play there.....Really strong argument. Bravo. We are not out there to get you ;D
We (posters/or at least I am) just make observation how to improve site.
Fact is there is to much profanity tolerated.
I wasnt advertising that site I was just using it as exsample how things dont have to be so full of profanity.
From eurobattle.net :"We will not tolerate insults of any kind, from any user. !"
Whene someone says 20 times
For arguments sake you are:
idiot
idiot
tard
makes you pathetic also
you suck
fagtard
so fuck off
lame useless
dont talk idiot
tard
you idiot
eat shit tard and dont talk
like total fag
thanks a lot fag
You honestly tell me that If I wrote this to admin/moderator/owner I wouldnt be banned?
It these situations became normal:
player 1: all mid def
player 2: fuck off
player 2: ok?
not bannable....pih...
I wrote also
Whispering flames after you are ignored : 10 days
....I didnt know whisper got nothing to do with playdota.
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Yes, I m sure and you know why? Cause I m community moderator there and I know what kind of flames/insults they are banning.
Someone can call u idiot 100 times in a row and if your to stupid to use !ignore than you r an idiot (i m speaking in global this is not directed to you), there is no other explanation, and if he is wisping you you have /squelch command.
About "ultimate respond", my respond was not that kind of respond, my post was answer on your "i am playing on teh best league, and they have read nice bear,naughty bear (http://bookreviewsformums.co.uk/2011/03/nice-bear-naughty-bear-the-good-manners-book/) book there, and if someone say you (GOD FORBID) idiot there, they will ban him immediatly".
Even ppl who replyed you here before me told you what to do in those situations.
And in my country there is a phrase:
"If more than 2 ppl say that you r drunk you should lie down on the ground and act like you rly are even if you r not".
Cheers.
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I kinda agree with Sphinix. When some1 calls me an idiot I get it and I can get over it. Maybe I did mistake or something so he calls me and idiot. But if he calls me idiot or retard 100 times it offends me, it is flame for me. I know I can ignore him but it can't change the fact that he did that and I feel offended. If some1 keep calling me like this it convinces me that he means it really seriously and that offends me coz I'm not retarded.
And I've got 1 question to Mods. This question isn't related to my opinion/statement, I'm not raging/crying, I just would like to know:
If someone keep calling you fu*king idiot/noob/retard is that bannable or can he get warn? Idiot/noob/retard isn't bannable but if he adds the word fu*king can he be at least warned?
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If someone keep calling you fu*king idiot/noob/retard is that bannable or can he get warn? Idiot/noob/retard isn't bannable but if he adds the word fu*king can he be at least warned?
Once again, we have (well myubernick did) invented that !ignore command, if he use "f...ing idiot" you can use that command same as you can use if someone calls you "idiot". It is not hard to divide real flame from "offensive" words. Tell me what would you do if someone calls you "f...ing idiot" in r/l? There r 3 options:
1. You will ignore him and walk away
2. You will say same thing to him and walk away
3. You will punch him in the face and kick his ass so badly that he will wish he was never born.
Same thing is in dota, if someone calls you like that you have 3 options:
1. ignore him
2. gave him a same respond
3. you will let him die alone while you and rest of the team are pushing bottom line :D
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Hahaha
OK I'll tell him the same, I'll let him die or I steal his kill and if possible I'll teleport him away ;D
And he will tell me that he will request ban for me for sabotaging :'(
Than !ignore ;D
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The secret is in balance astaroth. Now you have to get my point I dont mean on !balance you got me?
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The secret is in balance astaroth. Now you have to get my point I dont mean on !balance you got me?
;D
Yea I got it.
Ty for advice ;)
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Why should I get banned for calling some1 idiot,tard,noob,imbecil,retarded moron,fucking reto,etc..???
For telling the truth to him??
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You can find out he is retarded if you can see him playing DotA? I don't think so. And if you can you should write some study about it and sent it to medical research center.
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You can find out he is retarded if you can see him playing DotA? I don't think so. And if you can you should write some study about it and sent it to medical research center.
Yes and I can also see when I read some1s post...
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@ mrNiceguy
If you do something do it right.
Problem with your logic is that you think it will be solved if honest and fair pleayers run from bad ones by using ignore and /squelch (didnt know this command before) command. Ignoring problem doenst make it go away. I assume that many kids play here and this kind of language is not suited for them(like my younger brother who also plays here).
Exsample:
Person A:flame
PersonB:dont. stop it
Person A:flame,flame...
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PersonB:!ignore
Person A: whispers flame
PersonB:/squelch
Person A:gets away with it
Person A:keeps doing it in other games
I am currently banned because I went afk after a guy keept saying and later whispering things about my mother entire game.I can tolerate some things but what he wrote was soo disgusting and filthy that I couldnt/didnt wanted to read it anymore.I got ban and he got away!
I am currently watched because I returned insult and the guy that started it is not.
Again: I wasnt advertising or saying that that site is "the best" nor I think that it is. I just used it as exsample how things can be civilised and done better.
And in my country there is a phrase:
"If more than 2 ppl say that you r drunk you should lie down on the ground and act like you rly are even if you r not".
Well that is why our country is in a state that it is now ;)
(i m also speaking in global this is not directed to you)
@Dell.Lanceus(In english, a common thing to say when ur mad is "Noob".In some languages, common thing to say is "Je*em ti mater" or translated: "I f*ck ur mother")
No it is not. Say that in a country where that language is spoken to a person and he will punch you in a face.
*unless he is your really good freind.
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Look dude, NO one can say something against your mother and then pass unpunished, that flame must be punished, but flame like "idiot" "noob" and "retard" simply can pass unpunished cause:
calling someone idiot is not flame IT IS A Classification
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Why should some1 ban me cause i told an Idion that he is an IDIOT???
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Why should some1 ban me cause i told an Idion that he is an IDIOT???
Are you blind? Read what mrNiceguy said...
Look dude, NO one can say something against your mother and then pass unpunished, that flame must be punished, but flame like "idiot" "noob" and "retard" simply can pass unpunished
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Why should some1 ban me cause i told an Idion that he is an IDIOT???
Are you blind? Read what mrNiceguy said...
Look dude, NO one can say something against your mother and then pass unpunished, that flame must be punished, but flame like "idiot" "noob" and "retard" simply can pass unpunished
u got him wrong :D i translate what he said
i called an idiot IDIOT why i should get banned then?
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justice, I believe that final_end have understand it right.
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justice, I believe that final_end have understand it right.
yep and i got him wrong :D
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justice, I believe that final_end have understand it right.
yep and i got him wrong :D
Nope, you got it right... :D
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justice, I believe that final_end have understand it right.
yep and i got him wrong :D
Nope, you got it right... :D
nono .. i got u right but i got him wrong :D
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Hard flame: mentioning mother, family members, god etc......
flaming god should be considered as a soft flame. I mean its not that his attacking your directly and if you are a fanatic u have more problems than banning someone for flaming about your god.
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Hard flame: mentioning mother, family members, god etc......
flaming god should be considered as a soft flame. I mean its not that his attacking your directly and if you are a fanatic u have more problems than banning someone for flaming about your god.
Flamig someones religion, and someones belief (considering God to) is not "soft flame" is hardcore flame if your ask me, and I will always ban someone for flaming those things.
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Hard flame: mentioning mother, family members, god etc......
flaming god should be considered as a soft flame. I mean its not that his attacking your directly and if you are a fanatic u have more problems than banning someone for flaming about your god.
Kidding?
I would permaban any1 who said "fak ur Allah/God/Prophet" or i've seen ppl saying "go fak your Kuran/Bible" imo this is enough for permaban.
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Kidding?
I would permaban any1 who said "fak ur Allah/God/Prophet" or i've seen ppl saying "go fak your Kuran/Bible" imo this is enough for permaban.
I agree. People should be perma banned for flaming God or anything like that. I just can't stand when someone is flaming God, in real life or in game.
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Kidding?
I would permaban any1 who said "fak ur Allah/God/Prophet" or i've seen ppl saying "go fak your Kuran/Bible" imo this is enough for permaban.
I agree. People should be perma banned for flaming God or anything like that. I just can't stand when someone is flaming God, in real life or in game.
thats why we say FFS and not FGS :D
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Lol below 18...funny ..there are bunch of tards who are 25 with no life and they stink and act noob.
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Lol below 18...funny ..there are bunch of tards who are 25 with no life and they stink and act noob.
How old are you ? ;D
Moderators (or at least those who i met) dont ban for word fag, fagtard...etc.
Words that are not considered flame are increasing.
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fag = gay right? as I know they r not banning ppl on xpam cause someone said you gay, but be advised its not the same say moron to a moderator and to regular user and same is for other words to :D.
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what about the word "fucking moron" ? do you ban someone if he says that ? (ingame)
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saying someone "fcking moron" is not not bannable flame (but that depends on moderator, I would not ban for that mybe some other moderator would), cause if it is then we should ban more than 90% players. and as you know there is !ignore command.
P.S, I will ban only you, if someone reports you for saying that.
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^pwnt
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people overestimate verbal abuse, if you're the kind of person who gets offended by someone "flaming" you over the net, you deserve it
ignore ftw
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I played few games on dotalicious and I never had this problem. There is everyone or at least 99% of the players friendly. Everyone shares curier, no flaming etc..... This site could/should learn from that one. For exsample rules (check them out if you have time):
http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php/topic,2393.0.html (http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php/topic,2393.0.html)
You are very lucky.