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Title: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 13:42: Yo, i just thought that i will share some of my experiences on how things works here and to reveal that mods are corrupted here as shit, of course most of you are aware of that so just take it as another proof. Before you think that im some desperated-just-banned-raging-guy im gonna tell you that im not, i didn't play dota for 2 months and im not gonna, at least not here. Just dun have better things to do ATM, also it just make me feel like "lolwut" whenever these mods do whatever they want to, pissing on rules and making fun of regular users, let's begin:

1. Lock the target
2. /f a mod
3. ????
4. PROFIT!!!

Actually it works mostly if you are pretty much skilled, playing in one team with mega unskilled admin and making that guy win or just let him take few kills lol, in my case it was castiele, so i had my very own looser kid with some power.

Anyway, it was around the time that i've met meShuggah, really cool and mega funny guy, we owned/got owned in some pubs/privs etc. We did some serious abuse, mega leaving, afking, ruining games etc. There were like 30 ban requests for us, so i asked what's gonna be his new acc name cuz it was obvious we gonna get banned hard, he was silent for a while, then we played some games with castiele and i was informed that there is no problem with our flying ban requests, because we will get unbanned/denied ban req. like np.

Trick was simple, we either wrote some bullshit in threads like "I had connection issues, im sorry i won't do it again etc. etc. Then admin would write "If it happens again they will get perma, !denied". If report was about our serious abuse then castiele would ban us just for 24h to make it look like we are actually banned, but then ninja unban us, even if it should last like week.

We could do ANYTHING we wanted, mute abuse, leave game anytime as many times as we wish, mega flame blablabla, well i don't think it's right is it? Ofc at that time it was imba for me so i kept my mouth shout, but since now im not part of this rotten community i can tell ya the truth.

Also the other trick was that when someone wrote ban request for us castiele would ban us, we would write unban req, and castiele would tell other mods to unban us, we just had to write decent bullshit. And there ya go, 0% justice 100% lies and mega corruption, now how did average players felt like when we left game/flamed them and there was none consequence for us hm? Ofc i can tell ya that i was asshole back then, but it was fun.

Examples:
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,45090.msg141622.html#msg141622 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,45090.msg141622.html#msg141622)
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44911.msg141014.html#msg141014 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44911.msg141014.html#msg141014) (classic example, 7 days ban, no ban after 24h or even earlier)
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,5274.msg16898.html#msg16898 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,5274.msg16898.html#msg16898)
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333) (example of castiele banning us, we wrote unban req next minute and another mod from "mafia" would ninja unban us).

Admins involved in this phenomenon:
Castiele
Mr.Niceguy
LordKurai

I assume there is much more, but don't have proofs for that, so i will stick to FACTS.

Also probably Ek0 is corrupted as well, this is ONLY speculation because after all these abuses and 10 bans req. everyday for me and meshu at forum things were lookin suspicious, eventually later on ek0 knew that we are protected and banned us both, PERMA banned.

Here you can see meshu fooling around about his perma ban:
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,46426.msg145641.html#msg145641 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,46426.msg145641.html#msg145641)

Weeks after that ban he told me something like "i will be unbanned soon, preparing for it". Now go check at pd.eu site if he remains banned ;) He got unbanned after all these scams, abuses etc. etc. There is no way you get unbanned from shit like this, at least not in a regular way. And no1 else then ek0 could unban him.

About Kurai... I was once playing on "[vis]distortion" acc, got perma banned by him months before i've met castiele, i asked Cast. if he could unban that acc for me, he said no problem, he will just ask Kurai, and there you go, i was playing on this acc afterwards but eventually got banned for multi on another acc, ksv caught me :P

Unfortunately it was on the old bot so im unable to give you mega details, if i could i would post exact games after which we got fake-banned and unbanned next few hours. Also there is more links to threads where we get ninja unbans/denied ban requests etc. Just can't remember all forum accounts i had and some of them are deleted so this is all i could dig up. As i said, to many of you it's obvious matter, i hope that new players will think again before staying here for longer.

Whatever cover up story will headstaff come up with, just know that everything i said is 100% true, i didn't made up single thing, admins will for sure try some tricks like "We can't check if these so called ninja unbans were made 24h after ban, or 7 days after therefore gtfo and we delete topic cuz no proves" i have no reason to lie, especially that im not following pd.eu for 2 months or so. Make your decision yourself users, you think that things like that doesn't happen everyday?

Peace.

Btw. Meshu, srry for writing about you, nothing against you.

Bravo for ninja deleting my thread, afraid of facing the truth and showing players your real style. No problem, i will repost it as many times as possible, now you did show how helpless cowards you are, instead of trying to prove me wrong you just delete topic lmao
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: fawkz on June 18, 2011, 14:02: We already know about this like 3-4 months ago, we warned some mods and demote some others.
It is a timely case that it is entirely unrepresentative of the current playdota.eu

What do you expect now?

As u said you even havent played like 2 months ago in here, so plz if you wanna start a war or charge someone, bring some new stuff

Thx
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: DatFace on June 18, 2011, 14:09: rofl is that true?
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 14:10: Care to explain how come that meshu got unbanned after all these things we/he have done? He was perma banned by ek0. Kinda mrniceguy didn't got demoted and he is as far in this shit as castiele was. But np. You guys got heaven here.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: fawkz on June 18, 2011, 14:19: No idea man, but I will take care about it, as u can understand we cannot seek every single unban record for whole pd.eu player db.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 14:23: Ok great, i guess that's all lmao. See ya and gl in taking care of mafia moderators ;p
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Alucardo on June 18, 2011, 14:25: idk what happened in the past but mods here r the best and devoted :)
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Shadow on June 18, 2011, 14:44: Hahahahahahahaha :]
And what do you expect? Its always good to have friend or to have friend who has friend on higher positions. Thats how it goes now.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: UNBANMEHPLX on June 18, 2011, 14:59: i guess i /f added wrong mods

it didint worked with couple of them :(

but yeah i pretymuch agree with everything u said i saw tons of ninja unbans on my friends while they were rage leaving and so on
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Astaroth on June 18, 2011, 15:05: What did "PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd" say didn't surprise me. I see this kind of abusing often in real life - politics never get fine for speeding, they get big amount of money, can't explain where he get the money but some1 "poweful" always cleans everything up and no1 talks about it again like it never happend.

And here you post unban req, no1 knows if you lie or no when you said you had some computer/electricity fail.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: castiele on June 18, 2011, 15:30: M8 i think u are coward and maybe some scared kiddoe u made this account before few hours,if u are so so so fair and honest why dont say ur true nick on forum and in game,instead u hiding behind that crappy account,every1 can do that,making drama account,pathetic,i hope u are aware who is here hypocrite me and ppl u mentioned or you behind that account,so what i know meshuggah,so what i ban him and unban him its legit with proper request,and personally believe u arent some dumb kiddoe like u trying to present self,vacation is started u have more time to write about it,cuz when thats happened you was busy with school,wanna hear some facts read carefully rules"NOTES: These bans are not obligatory! It is mainly moderator’s decision.Warns are permanent."what part u didnt understood?i banned and unbanned messhugah after spoke with him,i showed more tolerance cuz he is my friend + that little messhugah did more than u will ever in ur pathetic life for xpam community,and im gratefull + some ppl i believe,i already spoke with meshu and we found mutual agreement about flaming leaving and other,he promised and still holding a word he gave to me and this community,if he make one mistake more he will be perma banned from PD bots,for time he was banned he played on balkan,ss,ro and other leagues not like you or other trolls hiding behind 10001 account and making drama,i know u arent happy cuz meshu isnt banned,but ill give u few good reasons to be happy,im demoted and few other ppl,cheers
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: DatFace on June 18, 2011, 15:41: he is Master Jedi now xD
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: bemus_ on June 18, 2011, 16:01: Quote from: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 14:10
Care to explain how come that meshu got unbanned after all these things we/he have done? He was perma banned by ek0. Kinda mrniceguy didn't got demoted and he is as far in this shit as castiele was. But np. You guys got heaven here.

He's SS admin, some mods/admins are in ss, problem? :D
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 16:05: Decent rage, i wish i could understand ogre language... Wtf you talking about lol, i made this acc before few hours ago because my main forum acc has been deleted for trolling xD I didn't played here for 2 months, also my two last used main accounts ~ingame are given in links i provided in first post, you are as plain stupid as you always was, it's just plain stupidity nothing else, you can't think properly.

Lmao, not worth talking to you, ofc you know better about my life then i do :D It doesn't matter if it's him or whoever else, he should be banned 999 times for what he done, same goes for me, but i am banned and im not playing here ;p

xaoaxoaxooax, i just gave a call to my friend from Korea so he will translate second part of your troll writing. From which tribe do you come?

It's so sad that you can't even admit that you were wrong, PM me when you will grow hair on your ballz kidzor.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: UNBANMEHPLX on June 18, 2011, 16:29: Quote from: bemus_ on June 18, 2011, 16:01
Quote from: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 14:10
Care to explain how come that meshu got unbanned after all these things we/he have done? He was perma banned by ek0. Kinda mrniceguy didn't got demoted and he is as far in this shit as castiele was. But np. You guys got heaven here.

He's SS admin, some mods/admins are in ss, problem? :D

hes not ss admin only voucher , none of the pd staff are in ss (well djerfi is but i doubt he plays there)
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 16:33: But in SS there is a few mega global admins that are above regular pd.eu mods so... Do the math xd
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: castiele on June 18, 2011, 16:53: Happy vacation is started?alot free time for dota and trollin?
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Quaken on June 18, 2011, 17:25: Quote from: castiele on June 18, 2011, 15:30
M8 i think u are coward and maybe some scared kiddoe u made this account before few hours,if u are so so so fair and honest why dont say ur true nick on forum and in game,instead u hiding behind that crappy account,every1 can do that,making drama account,pa .... blah blah ...
Sry, but i cant resist: why so offensive? His nick is showed in stats records posted here. I cant see any intention to be hide. I would admit his forum nick is little bit pathetic, but still, ur behaviour should be exemplary.

But evade generalization. Its not about pd.eu, its about individuals.

(its critical post, not flame-post, thx)
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: UNBANMEHPLX on June 18, 2011, 17:28: Quote from: Quaken on June 18, 2011, 17:25
Quote from: castiele on June 18, 2011, 15:30
M8 i think u are coward and maybe some scared kiddoe u made this account before few hours,if u are so so so fair and honest why dont say ur true nick on forum and in game,instead u hiding behind that crappy account,every1 can do that,making drama account,pa .... blah blah ...
Sry, but i cant resist: why so offensive? His nick is showed in stats records posted here. I cant see any intention to be hide. I would admit his forum nick is little bit pathetic, but still, ur behaviour should be exemplary.

But evade generalization. Its not about pd.eu, its about individuals.

(its critical post, not flame-post, thx)

best defence is offence tbh thats why so offencive
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: mrNiceguy on June 18, 2011, 19:02: (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ETcEZUASheo/S7bkZewgmZI/AAAAAAAABBY/Uw9Nvc4UQAU/s1600/the-laugh-echo-in-practice.jpg)

:D epic thread. Epic.

mrNiceguy involved:

thread solved by me:

http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333)

So you say you lied in your unban request and I unbanned you cause of what, you payed me like 100 euros, your so funny boy.

Do you know how many ppl lied in their unban requests and they got unban? Who knows! Why?Cause in the end we are all humans.

http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,5274.msg16898.html#msg16898 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,5274.msg16898.html#msg16898)

About this, ahaha again, your so f..in lol, I cant remember when I banned someone because of reasons he wrote in his request.

Srsly I u make me laugh hard, I just dont get why fawkz even bother to respond on your post.

Ur so LOL.

Do I have something from deny someones request? Do I have something for not banning someone? Ye right I have I have a new house, brand new car, appartment on the sea and little house in mountains, but that is not the end, I will not stop until I get another hous in Santa Barabara USA.

Fail thread, fail user, fail post, and in the end fail try.

Cheers from corrupted pd.eu moderator.

P.S. About SS league: I was part of SS league because I asked ss-extasy himself to give me vouch cause I wanted to obs some games there, later I got unvouched and vouched again by [yuma]noel, I m not part of ss league now, I am balkan community moderator on xpam and that has nothing with ss league.

P.S.2 If you see that some moderator does not work his job properly or he is making ninja unbans you can report him to me or to nv.thug. if I am not doing my job as I should you can report me to ek0, [uf]polska, fawkz or Myubernick.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 19:21: Epic serbian boy haz hard timez remembering his abuse :/ But np. go try turn it into laugh, i dun care anyway, i just wrote how you were/are solving things.

Kk, i will make it easier for you to remember... Someone reported me and meshu for leaving/hard flaming whatever, i don't remember, castiele wrote in that request that we are banned for a week and told us to write unban req later, also told us to make up things like connection issue or smth and he will msg you to ninja unban us so everything will look cool.

If this is not abuse then gj.

Go write a few more lols, seems that it is best you can do here. Trying to save ur ass hard huh.

@edit
Also meshu playing up-to-date with 0 warns, unbanned from ek0's perma ban is totally fine right? Why don't unban all banned players, is there any special reason he is above a law?
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: mrNiceguy on June 18, 2011, 20:00: Dude, I mean you failed again, you obviously dont know geography even you see my avatar. I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina I am not from Serbia.

Quote from: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 19:21
castiele wrote in that request that we are banned for a week and told us to write unban req later,

And ??

Quote from: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 19:21
also told us to make up things like connection issue or smth and he will msg you to ninja unban us so everything will look cool.

I will msg icyfrog to make hero with my nickname on it! Does that mean he will do that?

Srsly dude, all that u r saying now does not have anything with reality.

Just to give you one little hint, if ek0 unbanned someone who is permanently banned he did not made any mistake or any error, cause that is his right, he is b&u admin and he can unban who ever he wants, without any responsability.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 20:15: Ye, cuz i have nothing better to do then searchin for info about your location, Bosnia and Herzegovina/Serbia whatever, who cares, like these are some important countries lol.

Zomg, im not sure if you are as dumb as you want to look like... You really can't understand what i'm writing? Everyone else could but only you got some CPU limitation in your head?

We got reported for hard abuse
In order to save our asses castiele wrote !banned for week only to cover up our incomming ninja unban
What do you mean by "And?" we clearly broke rules mega hard, but in order to get us unbanned we just had to write FAKE unban request that was 100% ABUSIVE UNBAN
But you dare to ask me what's wrong with that, jesus christ who the fuck gave you moderator status?
This is the ABUSE FAKE NINJA UNBAN: http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333) CASTIELE TOLD YOU TO UNBAN US FEW HOURS AFTER WE "GOT" BANNED FOR A WEEK AND TOLD US TO LIE, JUST TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A PROPER UNBAN REQ, AND YOU UNBANNED US WHILE WE SHOULD STAY BANNED FOR MEGA HARD ABUSE, DOES YOUR LITTLE BRAIN GET IT?

I just lack words for your behaviour, how the fuck you dare to tell me that i am lying, i just gave you proofs and described everything as it was done, but go try to save your little ass because you are afraid now to face what you did earlier, jesus dear god christ, you are just pathetic, and i really mean it, i got ninja unbanned many times, but ofc. it has nothin to do with reality just because you can't understand text you are reading, im fucking done with you, you are simply trolling here, now please go asslick some guy's from SS so you won't have to loose ap tr noobs +1 all the time. Cya, i won't respond to your dumb provocation.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 20:21: Check this out:
January 26, 2011, 06:26 am »
!banned 7 days meshuggah
!banned 7 days yamateh.effect
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44911.msg141014.html#msg141014 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44911.msg141014.html#msg141014)

January 26, 2011, 06:55 pm »
YaMateh.EffecT-!Unbanned
MeSHUGGAH-!Unbanned
Locked!
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333)

But ofc im making things up right mr.moderator? It feels really good to pwn such a liar as you.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Taz on June 18, 2011, 20:51: Dude, I was fighting with the same thing when quon and the rest of his boys were moderators here and nothing changed then to better. Still, +1 for you.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: kingW3 on June 18, 2011, 20:58: Bring some correct proofs.When mod told you write unban request i will unban you.Other than that stop whining
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: castiele on June 18, 2011, 20:58: you all the time saying how i told u something and kinda...who are u?where are proofs i told u something like screenshots or logs?hmm please share that with us...or stfu man u boring me hard...
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 21:08: I'm gonna post it again, also you are on my ignore list castiele as well, you write bullshit since the start, even Quaken said so, but you know which post to ignore right?

Check this out:
January 26, 2011, 06:26 am »
!banned 7 days meshuggah
!banned 7 days yamateh.effect
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44911.msg141014.html#msg141014 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44911.msg141014.html#msg141014)

January 26, 2011, 06:55 pm »
YaMateh.EffecT-!Unbanned
MeSHUGGAH-!Unbanned
Locked!
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44994.msg141333.html#msg141333)

This is enoug proof, he can't unban us himself without getting in touch with mod that banned us; in this case castiele. Also yo you lil coward kid mr.castiele, you did got demoted for a reason didn't you? Even fawkz said so just stfu and go away with your trolling, as i said, i ignore you from now on cuz you talk only shit.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: kingW3 on June 18, 2011, 21:14: Quote from: kingW3 on June 18, 2011, 20:58
Bring some correct proofs.When mod told you write unban request i will unban you.Other than that stop whining
Thats not enough proof
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: mrNiceguy on June 18, 2011, 21:15: Quote from: castiele on June 18, 2011, 20:58
you all the time saying how i told u something and kinda...who are u?where are proofs i told u something like screenshots or logs?hmm please share that with us...or stfu man u boring me hard...

OOo i completly forgot it.

SS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN :D :D.

now serious, dude you dont have to rage, I was explaining you things.

1. castiele is EX <--- read it AGAIN EX MODERATOR <--- EX <---- EX <--- EX MODERATOR. What ever he told you it WAS BEFORE. (If he ever told you anything ofc.).

2. you accused ME for "he told us that he will send you pm and you will unban us". I am telling you I will send icefrog msg to name one hero "mrniceguy".

You are showing me what, thread where I unbanned you cause you wrote:

Quote
5: We had problem with net, there wasnt any reason for us to leave it was early game + they had lagger

??? so you lied in your request SO WHAT.

Your implying that I am corruptive cause I have unbanned you after 12 hours or 20 minutes of your ban? Are you insane, every fc..in body have right to post unban request after he got ban, and if I think that request deserve to be solved and those users deserve unban then I will unban them, I dont need someone to tell me what to do.

Now, just to tell you, avoid caps on in your posts, cause that is consider as spam, you can earn warns like that or your post can be deleted.

And I am telling every single one of you:

If some moderator is not doing his job right you can report him to me or to nv.thug, if I am not doing my job right you can report me to ek0, fawkz, myubernick or [uf]polska.

Kind regards.

mr.corupptiveniceguy
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 21:21: Ye, cuz you mods don't ask each other when reviewing same case, as i said, castiele banned us, when you were takin our unban req. you had to ask him about it, come on dont lie now, i was playin here for some time so i know how it works, you HAD to ask him about permission/his point of view. Also how the fuck can we have net issue at the same time when we are from two different countries? Sure we had problems, after feeding and just "left the game volu..." one after another lol

Just look how you try to defend yourself, usually, in 100% cases like that you wouldn't unban because it's clear rage leave. Lolz, so funny how you two trying to keep your face.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: mrNiceguy on June 18, 2011, 21:25: Dude,

in that time, and now I had same position "Head b&u moderator" does that mean anything to you? I did not had to ask regular moderators anything. If I wanted to unban someone I could do that without asking anyone but root admins.

I dont need to defend myself, I am trying to make decent conversation with you and I am trying to show you how wrong you are. How wrong you are at least when you r mention me.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 18, 2011, 21:38: And H.B&U mod can't see through obvious abuse like that one right? Wtf, you guys know everything about everything, you never make any mistake, as i said, feeding/different countries/simple leave and you just unban us like np? Also as far as i remember me and meshu were talking about leaving on ally chat, so gg.

I don't know if he asked you to take that unban and you trusted him that it's right unban, or you knew that it's friggin fake i don't know that, but anyone with no mental disorder would tell ya that this unban was suspicious at that time, i already explained why is that.

Castiele said he will take care of my unban, later on i saw that you took on my unban req. and i asked him if he told you to unban us, he said yes. - That's why i thought that you may be in this shit. I can't prove that he said it, he just did and thats all, besides, do i really look like someone who is lying? Disposing my own abusve behaviour + mega breaking rules on every step, you think i was sitting in my dark room and wrote this whole scenario? lol Also he is already demoted, he got demoted for a reason, it should ring a bell that im somehow not making things up. But whatever, you are free to think whatever you want to.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Alucardo on June 18, 2011, 22:13: its the end of history ... lets delete whole unban section so u feel happy what u think?
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: castiele on June 18, 2011, 22:20: This post is parody really,you said something i "said" and that must be truth,no matter i said it or not,you didnt provide us with proofs and you expect to believe you something?,first u present self like abuser,flamer,leaver and in one momment you fighting with fair system,second you renewing some things happen before few months like happening today,third you accusing some ppl for abuse and again zero proofs,its pitty this community dont have trolling icons for ppl like you,ok i abuse it,not once several times,did i regret about abuses i made NO,i unbanned alot friends cuz DC,sometimes leaves,gave second chance's some mhers,and thats result my demote,so what?so why you care about it?you are so alone in this world u must spam here about unfair admins?better community,where is your contribution in this story,dont counting this craps i heard today...enjoy m8...but somehow if u cant find solution try to google something like find a real life,i wish you gl in that...
Plus i said ur mother promised me something but cant remember extactly what...nvm when i find proofs ill post here...
Regards
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: mrNiceguy on June 18, 2011, 23:21: Did I said I cant make mistakes? I did not. I have told you that I unbanned you cause in that time I believed you had net problems, and I knew messugah is decent player, so yes I was wrong u was right I have unbanned u guys you manged to trick me, me dumb gg no re.

Btw after that messugah got perma ban cause of his leaving games problem.

He is unbanned by ek0 and he had all rights to unban him if he wants.

So, to conclude, you have brought up this cause of why?

Cause of corruptivnes of castiele? <-- ex moderator (and he was not demoted cause of those things YOU mention just to inform you).

Cause of corruptivnes of lord_kurai?
I did not saw anywhere in your post any thread with kurai name on it.

Cause of corruptivnes of me?

I have explain you and gave u my vision of everything and I gave u explanation of that unban (I did not rlly need to do that but I wanted who cares).

Now, what else is wrong?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: totally_screwd on June 19, 2011, 00:14: I really do not want to mess to this topic deeply because as far as I see mng explained the situation from his view allready.

I do not take sides of the staff here but you could have reported this to fawkz(owner of pd.eu) or myubernick to check the reactions.

You could have checked the current position of castiele(cause you aim at him mostly here) you would have seen that he is now ex-staff for some reason and that should have given you the idea that bad mod = now ex staff like you wrote above.

Does this not mean something good about pd?I am talking about from your point of view.If you find castiele corrupt and if u see he is gone now,how come pd.eu is like you describe here?

After it you still blamed pd.eu with so many things and here we work with 20+ staff members and you blamed all of our community just because you think 3x or 4x mods like you wrote were abusing.

It is not really fair imo and I do not think you are objective here,you are far deep subjective

If you want to change something about any case you chase,there are some really decent ways for decent fighters.Yours were not this way imo which is why I had to explain you all of this

ps: For all users,if my word means anything to you.If I had a chance to gain your trust listen to this.Our root admins are very fair(rare for a community),contact with them for any case you want via PM

regards
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 10:30: http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,64889.0.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,64889.0.html)

Jesus christ, this just getting ridiculous... Yet again you prove how fucked this place is, mega wannabepro ss player and your friend got banned so you gotta ninja unban him despite Angel deny, no ninja unban no won games for you? Get real, you are so pathetic. I bet he cried to you in PM.

@edit
YOU GOT BANNED? YOU JUST DID WANT TO CHECK HOW MH WORKS? OR MAYBE FLAMED FOR FUN? NO NEED TO WORRY, JUST PM @MRNICEGUY FOR NINJA UNBAN, SATISFACTION GUARANTEED. lol

@edit2
Checkout what i wrote at the bottom in ban req. for drill.
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,64679.msg207585.html#msg207585 (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,64679.msg207585.html#msg207585)

Didn't exactly thing just happened here? Ofc Angel had his job done cuz he is neutral mod, but mafia pro admin can't let his friend get banned right? Fucking speechless.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: kingW3 on June 20, 2011, 10:53: Did you even look he was never banned for flame(once but not for hard flames)and he's also old player
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: MilujPrirodu on June 20, 2011, 10:58: well there is a lot admins that abused and still abusing their position but u cant do anything about that and there's still trollers like plsdontmakemeplayonpd his nick is like trolling...
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 11:02: Quote from: kingW3 on June 20, 2011, 10:53
Did you even look he was never banned for flame(once but not for hard flames)and he's also old player

Lol,"he have 100 games and was banned only once for flame so we won't ban him for racist flame?" Are you mrniceguy on fake acc? :D Pls stick away from this topic, you make no sense.

Or just mods should unban every single person with 100+games that write unban req. and say srry, despite ban reason like national flame. I haven't seen ANYONE that got unbanned after saying "srry" for national flame.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 11:08: I dont think that the guy drill is mng's friend,imo he just pmed him and asked forgiveness and told mng that he won't repeat the action again.

We do not want to lose people here,especially the ones who learn from their mistakes.Rules are here to teach people their mistake,not to banish them.

Also we are not naiv,we put warns so next time he flames like that there is no returning point

You are again missing the point of mine,I am not saying that mods,admins NEVER abuse but the example you just showed is not abuse tbh

ps: An example from my history =),I mute abused a guy and got banned,then I tried to lie on my unban request but mod denied it,after it I talked to the mod and told her the truth and she unbanned me and I didnt repeat it.Getting unbanned makes you feel like you owe the one who unbanned you and it makes you mostly not repeating your mistake
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: MilujPrirodu on June 20, 2011, 11:18: 1. im not mrniceguy lol... and 2. im sticking to what i said.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 11:19: Actually he is, i've seen them plenty of times playing together... And it's a bit more frustrating for me cuz of a perma headshot ban i got 3 months ago for literally ONE SENTENCE national flame, it was like first time out of 150 games, no warns, never banned, top 10 ladder. Shame that i didn't /f a mrniceguy and make him win some games so i would get ninja unban. Ofc, simple "sorry, won't do it again" didn't worked.

Im just saying it, back then i was pissed but now since i don't play dota i really dont care about that acc, so please dont go into direction that im trying to get a revenge or smth, cuz it's not that, but you gotta treat ALL players the same way, no fucking exceptions that he will get unban because he is some admin mate and the rest 9999 people in the same situation won't.

@edit
Np. im working on ban req for drill, found few more things :) Wonder what excuse will mrniceguy find to help him.

@edit2
Besides, REALLY? REALLY ONLY WARN FOR NATIONAL FLAME? Not even one week ban? Come on, this is 100% abuse, everyone get's perma ban right away for racist flame.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 11:25: but my point was,we also unban strangers who apologize

it is mods decision to unban or not but most of the mods give 2. chance to everyone

I find it low to check someones gaming history to get proofs,people make mistakes ofcourse but what can we receive by banishing them?

only some cases we keep perma banned like mhers or nationalist flamers(if you can find one more example after that unban,i mean an example which includes drill flaming nationalist way he will stay banned)

btw did you read this:

Quote
ps: An example from my history =),I mute abused a guy and got banned,then I tried to lie on my unban request but mod denied it,after it I talked to the mod and told her the truth and she unbanned me and I didnt repeat it.Getting unbanned makes you feel like you owe the one who unbanned you and it makes you mostly not repeating your mistake
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 11:33: I find it low when mods piss on rules when it's about their friends, people make mistakes of course but what can we receive by treating regular users like shit?

ONLY warn for national flame isn't low compared to the rest bans of that category? lol. + He was banned for flame already, but np. it's cool cuz we should be nice to premium vip section users, k. Sure i will stay queit and let it go.

Quote from: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 11:25
btw did you read this:

Quote
ps: An example from my history =),I mute abused a guy and got banned,then I tried to lie on my unban request but mod denied it,after it I talked to the mod and told her the truth and she unbanned me and I didnt repeat it.Getting unbanned makes you feel like you owe the one who unbanned you and it makes you mostly not repeating your mistake

I did, now you read my whole post, ty, and previous one about mine ban, actually i didn't received second chance only because that my "punisher" is a mod that really hates me, and i hate him. Period. This isnt low? Cuz of some INGAME issues mod will drive on his emotions and will be asshole, cool, i will be asshole as well.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Alucardo on June 20, 2011, 11:34: fawks (admin) , mr.niceguy (head b/u moderator) and totally (tour admin) replied to u nicely and quiet while u r just saying things against them ....

if they were rly bad moderators they could just say spam topic !locked but they didnt .. i hope u think about it little bit

also almost ur whole topic is b/c u think a moderator unbanned someone unfairly while u think he deserve ban lets assume he was mistaken at that time .. so what? so whole moderators r power abusers now? if we just want to catch a person making mistake then that will make us all bad ppl in ur opinion

according to justice: no one deserve unban in unban sections (most of them b/c of dc cases and some stories) but still many of them get unban u know why? b/c there is something other than justice which is even more important its we call forgiveness ...... if life was without forgiveness then imagine how the life would have been going ..

edit: im telling u this b/c i experienced the same feeling u had in real life .. but difference in my situation there was abusing 100% but in this case u r saying those 2 unbans arent even considered as (abusing)
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 11:39: Sure, can we make it now that EVERYONE who apologize after his first time of breaking rules will get forgiven lol? Do you see how dumb it sounds? Just like your shittalk, and please, read carefully what im writing.

And i never said that totally is a bad mod.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 11:40: Quote from: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 11:33
I find it low when mods piss on rules when it's about their friends, people make mistakes of course but what can we receive by treating regular users like shit?

ONLY warn for national flame isn't low compared to the rest bans of that category? lol. + He was banned for flame already, but np. it's cool cuz we should be nice to premium vip section users, k. Sure i will stay queit and let it go.

I really get you/feel same way but listen

when someone post an unban request and when a mod checks it,it is his decision to keep the guy banned or unban him.So I told/tell my friends and strangers same thing when they come to me like this 'xx banned me pls unban i am sorry =(',i tell them 'apologize and convince the mod/admin that you will never make that mistake again'

Mng gave this guy another chance(whether he is his friend or stranger dont matter) and if he repeats that action again,cause we are talking about a heavy case here like nationalistic flame,there is no way to unban that account again

You should not keep it quiet,everyone SHOULD complain about something when needed.It makes us see the mistakes,leaks of pd.eu and work on them

but like I told you many times,there are better ways...
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Alucardo on June 20, 2011, 11:43: so what ? u made a mistake u flamed for example and u apologized .. why u dont get unban? i dont get u at all rly u want bans and bans and bans (i will copy u something that kakashi said)

ppl who brake the rules r scum but who abondon their friends r worse than scums
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 11:52: I remember FAWKZ(the one who pays for our fun) himself did not unban the guy I banned and it was his irl friend

I am not lying about the case,his nickname was caesar_w
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: Shadow on June 20, 2011, 11:53: Oh, that topic has moved quite far since I checked it few days ago. Anyway:
Try to compare this situation to real life, because its really similar. Issuses like this arent rare in everyday life. Justice and injustice are parts of life as well. Somewhere wins justice, somewhere injustice. We should not try to fight it, better face it and get over it. Its the matter of relationships between people. At the end, we are just a poeple...This topic has been made as a too big deal.

Peace
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 11:59: Quote from: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 11:40

I really get you/feel same way but listen

when someone post an unban request and when a mod checks it,it is his decision to keep the guy banned or unban him.So I told/tell my friends and strangers same thing when they come to me like this 'xx banned me pls unban i am sorry =(',i tell them 'apologize and convince the mod/admin that you will never make that mistake again'

Mng gave this guy another chance(whether he is his friend or stranger dont matter) and if he repeats that action again,cause we are talking about a heavy case here like nationalistic flame,there is no way to unban that account again

You should not keep it quiet,everyone SHOULD complain about something when needed.It makes us see the mistakes,leaks of pd.eu and work on them

but like I told you many times,there are better ways...

You are right and wrong at the same time ;P I agree with you on the second chance for users, but get real, not after national flame when a guy was banned for flame already, and not the way that "!WARNED" without any punishment, it's crystall clear ABUSE/FAG/NOT FAIR.

I woulnd't be checking that guy history if he was judged right way, np, mrNOTniceguy want to play hide & seek then np. i will take his game, also i got other reasons to get that. *** banned ;p

If by better ways you do mean PM to admins then it's dumb, im aware that for this "little" abuse mrniceguy won't get demoted or even warned because for you guys, for admins it doesn't really matter so you will let it go, that's why i prefer to see that player be banned.

@edit
Also don't take me wrong way, im not saying that all pd eu mods shall die, only few of them ;P Sure there are great admins like fawkz, probably you and maybe djerfi?... Myself i wouldn't add anyone else to that list. Especially fawkz is just fucking great, did help me when other mods didnt want to waste their time on me, so im just gonna say thanks for your devotion.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: castiele on June 20, 2011, 12:08: "ro noob" isnt for perma ban,he said truth, he is from romania and he is noob,whats the problem there,i watched replay and they played awefull,alot mistakes,zero map awareness,ofc some1 will piss off,but still i cant understand why u focus drill and mrniceguy and few other ppl what they did to u?,if u are so honest and fair person u will copy full chat log here instead u put only part where drill flaming what about common?(CoMMoN (Allies) are ,CoMMoN (Allies) you ,CoMMoN (Allies) idiots ?CoMMoN (Allies) you die like a moron ,CoMMoN (Allies) are you fucking retarded or are you just pretending ? ,CoMMoN (Allies) fucking numbskull ,...)what about Bad][Luck he didnt played like noob and flamed u miss that chat log,why u didnt reported him and others?
Why u are so hypocrite,if they didnt had any need to report each others why u did,is it posible u have alot time to stalk ppl and hunt for their mistakes in game,forum and lifes,why u dont mind ur own business,or you wanna some revenge,is this about it?admin banned u,and u are angry and wanna same treatment for all?for ur information,diffrent situations diffrent treatment,diffrent ppl diffrent judgement,cant be all idle like you,but if that makes you happy go ahead enjoy with that what you doing,or you can read your name again,look self in mirror and say to self ill go on some another realm(u will not miss to any1...)
Regards
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: PlsDontMakeMePlayOnPd on June 20, 2011, 12:11: Lol, so if someone flames me i do have a right to flame back? I think that's what for !ignore was made for? Isn't it what always mods say? Does low gameplay of my teammates give me a right to mega flame them?

Why am i anyway bothering with demoted, filthy, corrupted, low skilled guy. Obvious troll is obvious, whoever made you mod was either drunk or stoned.
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: totally_screwd on June 20, 2011, 12:33: Guys I will lock this topic and I am pretty sure fawkz will read all of it

if he decides to reopen it to public or answer you can follow from here

ps: If you want to give your opinion or ask anything about this case,you can pm our head mods,admins about it

regards
Title: Re: Pd.Eu Backstage/truth
Post by: mrNiceguy on June 20, 2011, 14:27: Look, now, mr annoing.

If you think that was rasism why u did not reported him on www.eurobattle.net? (http://www.eurobattle.net?) Why? You know why?C ause he would not be locked permanently thats why.

All those thing he said were not hard insults? You yourself have probably said like zilion times same sentence.

You have manage to catch new moderator who does not have enough expirience yet and he banned old user here permanently even tho it was his first report.

Now about thedrill:

Quote
02:38) mrNiceguy: u hated me before
(02:39) mrNiceguy: :D
(02:46) TheDrilL: i stil ldo
(02:49) mrNiceguy: kk

From the game we played togheter, I have banned him before a lot of times for leaving and etc, but I never banned him for flame or for rasism, cause no one ever reported him.

Now if you think he is my friend you r wrong, so wrong. Cause nor I like him and you can see that he does not like me.

I have unbanned him cause of:

1. Angel made mistake for banning him perma

2. He appologised for his behaviour.

3. I will unban EVERYONE who appologise with honesty for his behaviour.

Now if you dont like beeing here read this:

Quote from: fawkz on August 04, 2010, 18:02
If you are very disappointed we can give your money back & gtfo :D

Oh, but you did not made any donation did not you?

Bye.