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Title: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 20:54
Dont get me wrong but I think that this with pd.eu bots offline was made up just so you can get money...
You are counting on nolifers to pay you so they can play, and there are many of them here... Everyone that paid( YES PAID, NOT DONATED) today are nolifers, that cant think of one day without dota...
You got just today around 100-200 euros (Just my guessing) which you didnt earn from the very beggining of pd.eu...
Today nobody donated, everybody PAID... Donation is when you send your money because you want to, and not because you want to play...

My deepest appologies if Im wrong, and if this is not planned... I think there will be more "problems" with this bot in future, and perhaps you willl shut down bot again, and let nolifers fill your pockets...
Icy try not to delete this thread, I want oppinion from others..
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: End on June 09, 2011, 21:10
Ofc bots were offline because fawkz needs money to run this bots... Is that so weird? Like the guy who works in the store, he need money to buy things he is gonna sell... Fawkz can't run this bots if we don't help him. And yes, I donated, not because I wanna play, it's because I like this community and if I can, I will always help. And what's a few euros? Nothing, so I'm glad I could have paid or donated, whatever :)
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 21:18
But I think there's no problem, except their pockets are empty..?
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Hacker on June 09, 2011, 21:19
Just as me, i play few games a day just to relax after school or to have fun, but still i donated..
btw Immortal this bots arent rly cheap u know how much they pay for them? if u dont STFU. nobody was forced to pay there are alot of other ppl hosting dota and theres Garena...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 21:23
Actually this is forceing... And you were forced to pay so you can play...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: [maMa]dr4z4 on June 09, 2011, 21:26
Everyone that paid( YES PAID, NOT DONATED) today are nolifers, that cant think of one day without dota...
Why does it bother you as lifer if they payed or donated? You can think if few days without dota so enjoy your thinking  and stop spaming.
You got everything explained here so just go and read it:
http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,63709.0.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,63709.0.html)
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: kingW3 on June 09, 2011, 21:26
Is it that important?I mean he pays a lot of money for server.And yes its 4 pages of donations i can say its 400-600e max he pays that for 3 month period.Anyway they aren't forced this period will end in 4 days they choose to donate
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: End on June 09, 2011, 21:27
But I think there's no problem, except their pockets are empty..?

My friend, nothing is free today. Fawkz helped us many times, provided us great bots. What would b.net be without PD.eu bots? You can see that those days when bots are off, nobody plays dota. So I think at least we can do is help fawkz, the same way he helped us when we needed help.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 21:29
Yes, final_end, nothing is free today, but if I wanted to pay, I'd buy original W3 and Frozen and play on original battle.net.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Natura Sonoris on June 09, 2011, 21:32
Dont get me wrong but I think that this with pd.eu bots offline was made up just so you can get money...
You are counting on nolifers to pay you so they can play, and there are many of them here... Everyone that paid( YES PAID, NOT DONATED) today are nolifers, that cant think of one day without dota...
You got just today around 100-200 euros (Just my guessing) which you didnt earn from the very beggining of pd.eu...
Today nobody donated, everybody PAID... Donation is when you send your money because you want to, and not because you want to play...

My deepest appologies if Im wrong, and if this is not planned... I think there will be more "problems" with this bot in future, and perhaps you willl shut down bot again, and let nolifers fill your pockets...
Icy try not to delete this thread, I want oppinion from others..

Excuse me , why you think its payment ?

You get free hosting service with no lags , only when server lags ,but thats nop common thing. And someone has put money and efort in it ,including fawkz who pays around 200 euros a month from his own pocket,myubernick who codes the bot and it can take mounths of his free time so all those request you ask to be implented can be coded on bot.

There is Donation section ,and you could se there were 1 mounthly donation which is max 10euros. Also community gets some money from google adds ,but it is nothing compared to 200 euros for server expences.

Also you kept spamming forum : Omg it is not good system ,omg pro vs noobs ,omg mute abuse ,and you got 80% problems solved with in new season ,and none donated something for effort.
Also after new season none gave at least 5,10 euros , 5 euros are maybe 4,5 ice screams ,or 2 go-outs in caffe (at least in Serbia),we had to ask again.

I would like to see you how it feels to give something to people and you need to pay 200 euros mounthly.






Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Alucardo on June 09, 2011, 21:38
man no one is forced to donate so he can play dota .. pd bot is free they have problems the pd bot will be back in 4 days. if they r nolifers like u said they can just go ahead and play in garena or in other bot (and there r ppl doing this right now).when u donate its from ur deep intention to help the community but about they give u the right to host its a gift from them b/c the ppl who donated to help them shouldnt be the same as the one who didnt

if its payment why the bot will start to work again on 13th of this month? if they want just to rape money they could just add a new special reward to contributors which that only contributors r allowed to host pd bot games. ( i mean in these 4 days and after those 4 days)

P.S :nolifers can just play in other bots or in garena 4 days without pd bot wont make them suicide
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: GREED on June 09, 2011, 21:42
   Well,  i dont agree. Every maintenance costs in some way.So is this server which is used by us. When u look on stats database u can see that almost 140 000 people made their accounts (even half of them are maybe multiaccounters). So devide that 200€ by 140 000users(or eaven 20 000) and u get sad number of € per person.
  Truth is that u need to donate/pay for hosting game(on free sever),and it doesnt look nice, but couse of that lot of morons didnt play today and im grateful for that..   Morons like:multi acc,flamers,quiters and the rest of bastrds which doesnt care about this community or even treasure the work of mods and admins.
  So, even this euros end up in somebodys pocket, 0.01€ per soul is small fee to pay for a decent game.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 22:17
I would like to see you how it feels to give something to people and you need to pay 200 euros mounthly.
Man, he wouldnt do this if he was poor, he probably has 8 hour job every day and 1000 euros monthly salary...
You are talking like 200 euros is too much. In Serbia it is, you know it, we have low standards, but in other countries its nothing, people have couple thousands euros salary..

Its like selling glass of water in Africa for 100 euros. You know they need it, and you know they'll pay because they cant live without it. Its same with dota!
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: kingW3 on June 09, 2011, 22:20
Most of them don't have home they buy it for credit.Ok lets see 1000e
for house 200e if hes living alone he pays 500-600 for food than all bills for water electricity and other staff
+200e for hosting.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: End on June 09, 2011, 22:26
I would like to see you how it feels to give something to people and you need to pay 200 euros mounthly.
Man, he wouldnt do this if he was poor, he probably has 8 hour job every day and 1000 euros monthly salary...
You are talking like 200 euros is too much. In Serbia it is, you know it, we have low standards, but in other countries its nothing, people have couple thousands euros salary..

Its like selling glass of water in Africa for 100 euros. You know they need it, and you know they'll pay because they cant live without it. Its same with dota!

It's not so easy to give 200 euros every month just to help people you don't even know. And he can't even get 5 donations per month? I would do the same thing he did with bots...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 22:26
Most of them don't have home they buy it for credit.Ok lets see 1000e
for house 200e if hes living alone he pays 500-600 for food than all bills for water electricity and other staff
+200e for hosting.
Its impossible to play 600 for bills and food... I pay 200 and its impossible that he 3x more than me..
I'm just guessing he has 1000 euros, maybe he has more...or less.
Like I said, HE WOULDNT DO THIS IF HE DOESNT HAVE MONEY FOR REAL LIFE.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Melissa on June 09, 2011, 22:28
I would like to see you how it feels to give something to people and you need to pay 200 euros mounthly.
Man, he wouldnt do this if he was poor, he probably has 8 hour job every day and 1000 euros monthly salary...
You are talking like 200 euros is too much. In Serbia it is, you know it, we have low standards, but in other countries its nothing, people have couple thousands euros salary..

Its like selling glass of water in Africa for 100 euros. You know they need it, and you know they'll pay because they cant live without it. Its same with dota!
rofl, thats not true
they can change always the server
like rgc / iccup / dotalicous / balkan -xpam / ro -xpam
but they dont want it because they are loyal users :)
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Natura Sonoris on June 09, 2011, 22:39
Most of them don't have home they buy it for credit.Ok lets see 1000e
for house 200e if hes living alone he pays 500-600 for food than all bills for water electricity and other staff
+200e for hosting.
Its impossible to play 600 for bills and food... I pay 200 and its impossible that he 3x more than me..
I'm just guessing he has 1000 euros, maybe he has more...or less.
Like I said, HE WOULDNT DO THIS IF HE DOESNT HAVE MONEY FOR REAL LIFE.

Please dont speak thing you dont know. Do you know standarts for EU and for Serbia - thats right ,you dont.
So you wanted to act smart ,and post something which you cant understand and making up stories.

My cousin from Germany has salary of 2k,3k but still he needs 1-2k for appartment and bills and food and 2 kids who have it own demands like anykid does + his own demands .

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Did really fawkz counted on huge succes . He started with 10 bots and community big as country leagues.
You can get that for some small cash. But when you have 80 bots and 50,60 of them all used all time ,what can you do ?

When fawkz started he paid very small ammount of cash. When he saw he cant finance by his own ,what he could do ? Just shut down ,everything he builded ,shut down bot whihc mun coded for ages ?!

Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2011, 22:40
Hm i really admire that you had courage to post thread like this. Ofc this made enemies for you, which you have more than enough (just my opinion), anyway +1.
I thought about this "forced donation" or whatever, and I see no point why should we play there for free. Its just a good will. You wanna play? Do something for it, as in real life. I approve this system :]

Btw, Im not contributor, I tried to donate via onebip or whatever was it and it sent me an error message., probably because my country was not on the list.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 22:47
Icy - rude as always...
@Shadow, actually I have only 3 enemies - Mentioned above, Dragonub and Nv.Thug...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Melissa on June 09, 2011, 22:52
Icy - rude as always...
@Shadow, actually I have only 3 enemies - Mentioned above, Dragonub and Nv.Thug...
sorry for oftopic but here, "i" made a list with your "enemies" ( rofl , enemies - gg )

clickme (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php?action=mlist)


Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Natura Sonoris on June 09, 2011, 22:54
Icy - rude as always...
@Shadow, actually I have only 3 enemies - Mentioned above, Dragonub and Nv.Thug...

Dude with 2,3 warns for mass flaming says its thing and also kid who do not know basic info about paying bills and standarts in europe.

You can still play gamebut limited. Try to catch few games created by old contributors as well.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Jingle^Balls on June 09, 2011, 22:54
@-Immortal- its true that standard in Serbia is rly low, but i think that we all can have few euros extra to help this community. Lets see, min donation is 2,5e so its: 2pack of cigaretes, 2 beer, 2 ice cream bla bla bla... so its not that much money... u ll not die if donate 2,5e that mean nothing to  u but can help a lot to Pd... And no 1 forced u to donate...
-- We all have great time here for free... but as final_end told nothing is free on this world. They cant pay all by them self so i think its ok to donate and help this community. Its not proof that ur nolifer or something like that... do u know how much game are played on pd for just 1 day? About 4k games mate... I dont know how much they pay for bots but its not cheap i am sure...
Best regards guys..
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: sw33t_girl on June 09, 2011, 22:58
Dont get me wrong but I think that this with pd.eu bots offline was made up just so you can get money...
You are counting on nolifers to pay you so they can play, and there are many of them here... Everyone that paid( YES PAID, NOT DONATED) today are nolifers, that cant think of one day without dota...
You got just today around 100-200 euros (Just my guessing) which you didnt earn from the very beggining of pd.eu...
Today nobody donated, everybody PAID... Donation is when you send your money because you want to, and not because you want to play...

My deepest appologies if Im wrong, and if this is not planned... I think there will be more "problems" with this bot in future, and perhaps you willl shut down bot again, and let nolifers fill your pockets...
Icy try not to delete this thread, I want oppinion from others..
did you see mass disconnects and mass bans for nothing the day before bot is closed? If you did not... Please research before u post.
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: LexMonster on June 09, 2011, 23:04
@Icy, your nick says it all - svinja. How immature can you be to put that name? And you have right to call me kid, when Im older and experienced more that you are (and ever will be)? Calling someone "kid" is actually showing how how immature you are...

@Shemale Melissa - Go make another account and suck up with making sticky threads...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Natura Sonoris on June 09, 2011, 23:06
@Icy, your nick says it all - svinja. How immature can you be to put that name? And you have right to call me kid, when Im older and experienced more that you are (and ever will be)? Calling someone "kid" is actually showing how how immature you are...

@Shemale Melissa - Go make another account and suck up with making sticky threads...

Yea if i am svinja i am pig ..i made that nick for fun. Also for flaming here you go a gift.

Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: this_is_SPARTAAAA on June 09, 2011, 23:16
Again you show how immature you are...
Shemale is not flame, shemale is a person/girl with pe***s. And ofc I used it because male (dragoljub) is using female name (melissa) = shemale

P.S. I cannot post, but I can still spit...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Melissa on June 09, 2011, 23:19
you know that i m not a girl :)
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: End on June 09, 2011, 23:21
Again you show how immature you are...
Shemale is not flame, shemale is a person/girl with pe***s. And ofc I used it because male (dragoljub) is using female name (melissa) = shemale

P.S. I cannot post, but I can still spit...

And how is that your problem? He can use whatever nick he want, maybe that's his girlfriends name? Anyway, it's none of your business...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Jingle^Balls on June 09, 2011, 23:22
And he is pwned xD gg... imortal !muted xD
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: this_is_SPARTAAAA on June 09, 2011, 23:25
you know that i m not a girl :)
Ofc. Every single of your account you donated and made panda contributor.
@Final_end Yea sure, he has girlfriend and I'm Michael Jordan and I have Boing 747...
Its more than obvoius that he changed his name just to hide himself
@Jingle are you sure?
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: End on June 09, 2011, 23:26
Its more than obvoius that he changed his name just to hide himself

Mabye he did, but again, how is that your problem?
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Jingle^Balls on June 09, 2011, 23:27
"User is banned from posting Muted"... Yes i am prety sure.. :)
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: this_is_SPARTAAAA on June 09, 2011, 23:28
Its more than obvoius that he changed his name just to hide himself

Mabye he did, but again, how is that your problem?
How is your problem to ask me is that my problem when Im communication with him? Are you sucking up?
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: End on June 09, 2011, 23:29
How is your problem to ask me is that my problem when Im communication with him? Are you sucking up?

Hahahahah, sucking up to who? You okay? Brain issues or something like that,no?
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Natura Sonoris on June 09, 2011, 23:32
Return to topic if you want to post something or lock  ;)
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: UNBANMEHPLX on June 09, 2011, 23:34
i rly don't understand u leechers

u want everything for fucking free ?  u think  having lag-free servers  costs nothing ?   THERES NOTHING FREE  if u want something then buy it   u should be happy that  admins r doing such a gr8 job and maintaining a free dota community  they said either u fucking wait  till 13th and everything will be normal or u can Get CONTRIBUTOR status and host games like np

Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Astaroth on June 09, 2011, 23:34
Immortal, man, you need to calm down. Melissa makes great and helpful threads so why not to make them sticky. You jealous?

I know how do you mean "forced donation". I really do, trust me. And I agree it maybe looks like forced. But if you need to pay 200 euros monthly and you get only 10 euros from 140k people what would you do?
200 euros is much money, maybe he has great work and gets 5000 euros, I don't know. But why would fawkz pay this? He can say himself: You esteem my work and all I do and pay for you to 10 euros? F**K OFF!!!
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: this_is_SPARTAAAA on June 09, 2011, 23:37
@Icy, i see you missunderstood my last post with Immortal account.
"Calling seet girl a shemale and offensive behavior"
1st - you misstyped her name. Shes SWEET.
2nd - I didnt call her shemale, I saw her pictures in MEMBER PICTURES section.
3rd - I called Dragoljub shemale.
4th - Please change "Calling seet girl a shemale and offensive behavior" into "Calling Mellisa/Dragoljub a shemale and offensive behavior"
I have nothing against sweet girl, + Im in her clan. It would be rude if I called her shemale...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: this_is_SPARTAAAA on June 09, 2011, 23:41
Immortal, man, you need to calm down. Melissa makes great and helpful threads so why not to make them sticky. You jealous?

I know how do you mean "forced donation". I really do, trust me. And I agree it maybe looks like forced. But if you need to pay 200 euros monthly and you get only 10 euros from 140k people what would you do?
200 euros is much money, maybe he has great work and gets 5000 euros, I don't know. But why would fawkz pay this? He can say himself: You esteem my work and all I do and pay for you to 10 euros? F**K OFF!!!
I did calm down, but I was pissed of when Melissa wrote this
sorry for oftopic but here, "i" made a list with your "enemies" ( rofl , enemies - gg )
Also Icy started beeing rudder than he is usually and started actiong immature and this is what happened...
Title: Re: Donations or payment?
Post by: Natura Sonoris on June 09, 2011, 23:46
Yea i misstyped ,so now because you lied about you dont have multies ,there you go.

Btw drago has no other accounts on forum if you want use that against me.

!lock