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General Section => General Discussions => Feedback => Topic started by: kurcem_ucelo on March 19, 2011, 12:27
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i just want to say that if u want balance to be used u also must put !lock slots for ppl who have friends ingame so they dont have to swap them around and so if they swap again they must calculate who to swap which no one wont do so !balance 0 points
regards
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I agree.
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Agree with u Kurcem x))
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its obvious but ofc there are a lot of noob host yeah ;)
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anyway that balance command is useless....there could be pro player with few games, obviously low psr, u type balance and maybe are more pro's with low psr in the other team, so where is the balance..:D and mostly depends on what pick u have, if u have bad pick's u can be god and still lose;)).....if u know what i mean my english is not so good:D
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its rly ezy to get points on the begining
why ?
bcs everyone starts with 1500 and if u join noob games its 1500 to 1500
so pros vs noobs ,
1500 vs 1500
"pros" will win 99% and get points ezy
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If you dont want to be balanced, create your own games
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If you wanna play with mate then host game yourself, I kick all "mates" since it only can make problems (like one dropps = both drop, mostly they bitch on all other players (I don't know why---), mostly their "teamplay" only makes problems. These are my experience.) I noticed many hosts do this like me (thanks god).
So I am glad that balance randoms players so they can start whining and I can get rid of them.
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just want to say : nice job on !lock command ;)
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+1. !lock would be useful
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it already exist
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If everyone has mates with high PSR after he pub the game he should pub it like this : PSR OVER 1550 or so ...tha way everyone is satisfied !
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I dont support balance because balance is ,lets say, 60 40 ( it is not big difference) or even 55 ,45 and they spam balance and they leave if you dont type it and i bet when u type !balance you cant get that 50/50 each time.
But it helps more with host stackers.
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i just want to say that if u want balance to be used u also must put !lock slots for ppl who have friends ingame so they dont have to swap them around and so if they swap again they must calculate who to swap which no one wont do so !balance 0 points
regards
better idea is to stop using !balance and keep balancing teams according to their personal !sd - coz its more reasonable - we're not having permanent 5 ppl teams here on PD - so there is no reason to use !balance based on 1v1 rating system.
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!Balance is good command,it surely is a great way to keep stackers apart.But here's a catch,it doesn't work like all of us would like it to work,you can have one guy with lets say 1630 PSR,one guy with 1560,4 guys with ~1470 PSR and 4 guys with ~1530 PSR,what will happen...!balance will put 1650 guy with 4 failers against those 5 "normal" players,and most likely first team will have advantage in %.I don't know if this can be made to work other way,because any other combination won't give nearly 50/50.
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!Balance is good command,it surely is a great way to keep stackers apart.But here's a catch,it doesn't work like all of us would like it to work,you can have one guy with lets say 1630 PSR,one guy with 1560,4 guys with ~1470 PSR and 4 guys with ~1530 PSR,what will happen...!balance will put 1650 guy with 4 failers against those 5 "normal" players,and most likely first team will have advantage in %.I don't know if this can be made to work other way,because any other combination won't give nearly 50/50.
On one hand u said its good and on the other u would change it - so it would use some kind of !sd. I don't understand. How does it prevent stackers? Host is not obliged to write that command.
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I am sure owner of bot can make thing that when all slots are filled up,bot automatically balance game.And ofc if someone leaves and new player join bot repeat action (balance again).
I am sure this can be done because thing like this existed in some leagues where i played.
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!Balance is good command,it surely is a great way to keep stackers apart.But here's a catch,it doesn't work like all of us would like it to work,you can have one guy with lets say 1630 PSR,one guy with 1560,4 guys with ~1470 PSR and 4 guys with ~1530 PSR,what will happen...!balance will put 1650 guy with 4 failers against those 5 "normal" players,and most likely first team will have advantage in %.I don't know if this can be made to work other way,because any other combination won't give nearly 50/50.
On one hand u said its good and on the other u would change it - so it would use some kind of !sd. I don't understand. How does it prevent stackers? Host is not obliged to write that command.
Well,most of the stackers win games so they have huge PSR advantage over single players who will get stuck with not so good players in half of the games.Considering that they will over time have like 70%-80% !rs. And people will request !balance or won't even play that game.
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!Balance is good command,it surely is a great way to keep stackers apart.But here's a catch,it doesn't work like all of us would like it to work,you can have one guy with lets say 1630 PSR,one guy with 1560,4 guys with ~1470 PSR and 4 guys with ~1530 PSR,what will happen...!balance will put 1650 guy with 4 failers against those 5 "normal" players,and most likely first team will have advantage in %.I don't know if this can be made to work other way,because any other combination won't give nearly 50/50.
On one hand u said its good and on the other u would change it - so it would use some kind of !sd. I don't understand. How does it prevent stackers? Host is not obliged to write that command.
Well,most of the stackers win games so they have huge PSR advantage over single players who will get stuck with not so good players in half of the games.Considering that they will over time have like 70%-80% !rs. And people will request !balance or won't even play that game.
Y thats true, but i thing nowadays ppl have realized that 50% to 50% doenst mean they have equal chance to win a match, coz everybody can evade the system (in the meaning of having different PRS than he deserved).
y thats true, but consider the idea of some 2-3 friends who wanna play together - they have to have multiple acc to lower their points to play a game. Coz everybody join write !rs and seee "oh i have 70% chance to win, i will be quiet and dont wanna balance" - isnt that funny? :D
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!Balance is good command,it surely is a great way to keep stackers apart.But here's a catch,it doesn't work like all of us would like it to work,you can have one guy with lets say 1630 PSR,one guy with 1560,4 guys with ~1470 PSR and 4 guys with ~1530 PSR,what will happen...!balance will put 1650 guy with 4 failers against those 5 "normal" players,and most likely first team will have advantage in %.I don't know if this can be made to work other way,because any other combination won't give nearly 50/50.
Exactly, in this way not even balance isnt fair, its illogical as well. You see this rating system is based on Elo 1v1 match calculating. And you know what? Dota is not 1v1, its 5v5. Every player has different rating gained in different games. Trying to put through these two just doesnt make sense.
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K/D/A and creeps stats are fine.
!PSR is useless. PD.eu is not a real ladder, it's a free gaming platform with "points".
As long as teams set up will be decided by hosts and their friends, these numbers will mean nothing - except 1700 points = stacked nerd friends
ps : the counterpart of stacking = an average of 25min in lobby ;D ;D
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K/D/A and creeps stats are fine.
!PSR is useless. PD.eu is not a real ladder, it's a free gaming platform with "points".
As long as teams set up will be decided by hosts and their friends, these numbers will mean nothing - except 1700 points = stacked nerd friends
ps : the counterpart of stacking = an average of 25min in lobby ;D ;D
definitely +1. btw - imho its not about stacking - worse is that every noob belive 50% to 50% is definitely balanced game :D