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Title: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: anime on March 08, 2011, 20:14
I play dota few minutes ago, and 2 of opposit players leave game and then one our (best)player go swap with their leaver. I refuse to vote !yes and they kicked me  :(

Am I wrong that I refused to vote yes or which is the correct decision?


http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=1516274 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=1516274)

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Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: NEGERTIVS on March 08, 2011, 20:24
Both are fine. Switch is a vote, votekick is a vote. Majority wins.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: LexMonster on March 08, 2011, 20:28
I play dota few minutes ago, and 2 of opposit players leave game and then one our (best)player go swap with their leaver. I refuse to vote !yes and they kicked me  :(

Am I wrong that I refused to vote yes or which is the correct decision?


http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=1516274 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=1516274)
u r not wrong. i got votekicked also few times, bcus i refused to switch to noob team(i played in sentinel, they were fed enough, and they wanted me to sw in scourge with noobs)
ofc i refused and i got votekicked.
dont be dissapointed, they cant ban you for that.
there are no rules about switching.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: Mechanik on March 08, 2011, 20:50
I would reject switching also.
Its none sense to give away players just because they left. If you deserved to win (big gap of score between sentinel and scourge) go and finish.
Giving good player away is like throwing your all team work into a river.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: Close. on March 08, 2011, 21:31
I would reject switching also.
Its none sense to give away players just because they left. If you deserved to win (big gap of score between sentinel and scourge) go and finish.
Giving good player away is like throwing your all team work into a river.
man if u really pro u wouldnt care to sw and he was has blood seeker can kill 5 if he got good items  ???
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 08, 2011, 23:05
Well you can blame your team mates, the oposit team could not kicked you without help from someone of your team.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: LexMonster on March 08, 2011, 23:37
man if u really pro u wouldnt care to sw and he was has blood seeker can kill 5 if he got good items  ???
u sure? how can u pwn ursa and mortred in same team? perma slow and 1000 crit from mort?
bkb wouldnt help in this situation.
maybe he could done something with blademail, if they were nabs...
but even nab(after few deaths) would see that spikes dmg him when he attacks...
and btw both ursa and mortred have divine
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: Domagoj on March 08, 2011, 23:42
I would reject switching also.
Its none sense to give away players just because they left. If you deserved to win (big gap of score between sentinel and scourge) go and finish.
Giving good player away is like throwing your all team work into a river.
man if u really pro u wouldnt care to sw and he was has blood seeker can kill 5 if he got good items  ???

Doesnt matter if your pro or not if youre playing support for example, and the carry that you have been helping to get all the kills suddenly crosses to their side...
And as for the solution for the problem, just create games without -so.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 08, 2011, 23:56
Just to remind you; In next bot release games with -so will not be included in stats.

P.S. -em -cp games to wont be included in stats.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: Close. on March 09, 2011, 00:09
Just to remind you; In next bot release games with -so will not be included in stats.

P.S. -em -cp games to wont be included in stats.
i think new bot will be so good for people and no one will care to em modes and sw so can u tell me what will host do if 2 of his team leave or 2 of other team leave i think he will rmk!!!! can u answer me pls mrniceguy
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: kingW3 on March 09, 2011, 15:48
will you reset stats after new bot beacuse my stats will be nulled whitout em
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 09, 2011, 16:31
Just to remind you; In next bot release games with -so will not be included in stats.

P.S. -em -cp games to wont be included in stats.
i think new bot will be so good for people and no one will care to em modes and sw so can u tell me what will host do if 2 of his team leave or 2 of other team leave i think he will rmk!!!! can u answer me pls mrniceguy

There is !ff (forfeit) command implemented so if they want they can use that command and surrender the game, like that the game will not be prolonged to much. Also let me remind you that new bot support gproxy, so if someone lose connection he will be able to return with gproxy.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: pyroftw1234 on March 09, 2011, 17:09
and exactly when is that bot coming out ?
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 09, 2011, 17:10
No I cant give u exact date, but I can tell you that its behind the corner cause we are testing it.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: kingW3 on March 09, 2011, 17:23
and ap should be not counted in stats
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: Shadow on March 09, 2011, 17:41
and ap should be not counted in stats

This is too many limits to count game in stats. Em is not counted, thats ok, but not counting ap? This is too much. Sometimes its good to pick hero that you want to play.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: LexMonster on March 09, 2011, 17:44
and ap should be not counted in stats

This is too many limits to count game in stats. Em is not counted, thats ok, but not counting ap? This is too much. Sometimes its good to pick hero that you want to play.
yup. its also stupid not to count -so games...
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 09, 2011, 18:30
@lexmark
you want to say that our coder is stupid? next think 2 times before using that word.

Now why should we count -so? in 90% of games with switch on there were turnover in game, if someone switch in oposit team, especially if guy with best score that team will win the game, and all effort they made to win that game have fall into water.

@kingw3. tell me 1 reason why ap should not be counted into stats?
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: SwenCro on March 09, 2011, 19:09
Wait what stats are not counted? Kills,deaths,assists etc...or just score itself? Im confused
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on March 09, 2011, 19:10
Wait what stats are not counted? Kills,deaths,assists etc...or just score itself? Im confused

It will be like u didnt play that game it wont be recorded in dota ladder right?
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 09, 2011, 19:43
Yes night^^stalker, it will be like he did not played that game at all.
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: kingW3 on March 09, 2011, 21:59
too much imba abuses i mean you can chose much good teams and pros can join noob even new stats system pros allways find a way to join noob games
my reason sucks
Title: Re: They !votekick me because I reject two time to vote yes to switch our best plyer
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 09, 2011, 22:21
dude there will be no more stats reset after new bot release, if pros are banned they will not get much points if they join noob games with new account (if we dont catch them before they even come with their new account).

To be more easier for you to understand.

You host a game AP // eu // noobs you are in that game and you have 300 points rating,

kingw3 rate 300

I join the game and I have 1500 points rating

mrniceguy rate 1500.

So it will be like this.

sentinel
kingw3 rate 300
player rate 400
player rate 600
payer rate 700
player rate 500

scourge
mrniceguy rate 1500
player rate 1000
player rate 1300
plqyer rate 1200
player rate 2000

If scourge win they will get like 10 points each or mybe even less, they will get 2 points, but if you win you will get 30 points or even much more.

So they need to play like 100 noob games to get like 20 points, and while playing them they are risking to lose a big amount of points.
So why do you think if I consider myself as a pro, that I will join noob game and risk to lose many points in 1 game only?

I hope I was helpful, if not then I can try to explain on example tomorrow.