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Strategy Discussion Section => DotA Discussion => Topic started by: wingsofdeath on December 25, 2010, 15:11
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I'm geting sick and tired of losers who folow invisible players on the map, use aoe skills to kill, hook/arrow in fog etc.
And remember, it takes them 10 seconds to make an account, and a week or so to catch and report them, so the accout ban thing is kind of useless.
I'd suggest a perma ip/ip class ban for maphack users.
it's too much for leavers, cause anyone might have connection problems, but there's no accident in witch maphack installs itself on your computer and makes u abuse it, is there?:P
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It will be implented soon
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permaban is not heavy enought punishment ?
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Make new acc = no punishment at all
Than dealing with MH reports is useless thing really and they take a lot of time and knowladge.It is as same as breaking normal rules.
IP blocking is best way to keep MH out of server
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permaban is not heavy enought punishment ?
to torture chamber with them :-X
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a idea . ( from cod²)
a cool guy should make a program that u have to run if u want to play on pd.eu
that program will do every *min-*min a screenshot , and u ll be able to see the ss after the game . and if u see on ss he hazing maphack u report with the ss and gg no re :P
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i think that something like steam_id would be better, a code that sticks to your comp even if you reinstall the game
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a idea . ( from cod²)
a cool guy should make a program that u have to run if u want to play on pd.eu
that program will do every *min-*min a screenshot , and u ll be able to see the ss after the game . and if u see on ss he hazing maphack u report with the ss and gg no re :P
Every 1 min?Ok,for the fun lets say every 10 mins,an average lasts over 40 mins,but we will say 30 mins,so thats 3 ss every 10 mins,10 players = 30 screenshots every 10 mins,thats 90 screenshots,for 1 game,not to mention that over 4000 players play here on playdota.eu,yes,the idea is good,but not perfect :)
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id say playdota could hire me then i go to maphackers house and stab his left eye with the fork later on right eye with the fork and so on till he dies sounds like a plan ?
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As Icypig said it takes some knowledge to make a difference between MH,map awareness and pure luck.Except for those obvious MH.And even though it's very annoying when your every gank on certain player fail(I'm talking about those obvious users) I find it way more annoying when you get flamed in pubs whenever you escape a gank or hit an arrow or hook on a player that runs away in fog of war.Come on,it is not that hard to predict where will he go,you don't need to be omg pwnerer.
But yeah,I agree with you,getting one account banned is no problem for them.
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Luck is one thing,but mh is another,since PD.Eu and Eurobattle.net are working together they make the best server online,but if you see a MH user report him to PD.EU and Eurobattle.net where they will IP ban them
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It's actually an endless loop...
Account ban > new acc
IP Ban > many people has dynamic IPs everytime they restart modem, VIOLA! new IP
EVEN if u consider MAC Address > There will be many Cyber cafes crying about unbanning their MAC addresses because they can't control everyone especially in big cyber cafes with above 100 computers in it.
Maybe an epic expert can modify warcraft3 loader exe file to alternate the way it decide to show fogged units. But it sound almost impossible.. bleh :'(
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from my pov its ok to use mh in public games (yeah its disadvantage versus other players ) but when ur using maphack ur simply geting worse at dota and even when u relise that ur pro enought to play without mh already u will be just random casual noob who can't do a shit there will always be morons who has no brainz and need hax to pwn im playing video games for 15+ years and i already realised that as long there is way to cheat noobs will do it
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i think that something like steam_id would be better, a code that sticks to your comp even if you reinstall the game
This. IP Bans are too easy to dodge. Banning the ISP(Internet Service Provider) on the other hand not so much. But there needs to be an ID system like Issac suggested
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It's actually an endless loop...
Account ban > new acc
IP Ban > many people has dynamic IPs everytime they restart modem, VIOLA! new IP
EVEN if u consider MAC Address > There will be many Cyber cafes crying about unbanning their MAC addresses because they can't control everyone especially in big cyber cafes with above 100 computers in it.
Maybe an epic expert can modify warcraft3 loader exe file to alternate the way it decide to show fogged units. But it sound almost impossible.. bleh :'(
You heard about lock hardware ID?
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It's actually an endless loop...
Account ban > new acc
IP Ban > many people has dynamic IPs everytime they restart modem, VIOLA! new IP
EVEN if u consider MAC Address > There will be many Cyber cafes crying about unbanning their MAC addresses because they can't control everyone especially in big cyber cafes with above 100 computers in it.
Maybe an epic expert can modify warcraft3 loader exe file to alternate the way it decide to show fogged units. But it sound almost impossible.. bleh :'(
You heard about lock hardware ID?
Learn2Read ? she said Mac adress nab
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Don't get caught slipping
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Actually, there's no way to identify uniquely a computer on the web, except with some special hardware token, and the appropriated software. The mac address isn't more reliable than the IP address because there are ways of modifying it manually.
All you can do is playing with an anti-hack software that detects the Win32 signature of hacks running on the same OS. The bot detects if you have that anti-hack launched. And you can kick those who dont play with the anti-hack ON. Like on ICCUP ::) http://www.iccup.com/dota/dota_start.html (http://www.iccup.com/dota/dota_start.html)
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soz but i haz hax which bypass iccup so it wouldnt help anyway
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first get more unban/ban mods...there are tons of unchecked requests...
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soz but i haz hax which bypass iccup so it wouldnt help anyway
And you downloaded it (them?) just to check iccup security of course.
Playdota is getting more and more funny.
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Actually, there's no way to identify uniquely a computer on the web, except with some special hardware token, and the appropriated software. The mac address isn't more reliable than the IP address because there are ways of modifying it manually.[/url]
MH'ers are mostly noobs so I doubt that they can modify their MAC address 10 times per week to dodge bans :P And there is no way to change TRUE MAC Address without getting new hardware afaik. I'm not so good at networking anyways :'( u probably know more than me so... You may be right too.
Anyways, it's hard to be creative in this topic :(
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soz but i haz hax which bypass iccup so it wouldnt help anyway
And you downloaded it (them?) just to check iccup security of course.
Playdota is getting more and more funny.
no i have friends who likes to pwn russian faggots and with toolz it even works better personaly iccup lags me 2 much and its full of retards who can't even understand proper sentence in english so why i should bother playing there
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i have mh ban. and new acc ofc and not ip banned. but if they unban my ex nick ill never again use mh!
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no ip ban couse they forgot to add it probably :D
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I know his new nick :D
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It's actually an endless loop...
Account ban > new acc
IP Ban > many people has dynamic IPs everytime they restart modem, VIOLA! new IP
EVEN if u consider MAC Address > There will be many Cyber cafes crying about unbanning their MAC addresses because they can't control everyone especially in big cyber cafes with above 100 computers in it.
Maybe an epic expert can modify warcraft3 loader exe file to alternate the way it decide to show fogged units. But it sound almost impossible.. bleh :'(
You heard about lock hardware ID?
Learn2Read ? she said Mac adress nab
There is no such thing as hardware id lock.
And MAC address is as useless as IP.
stfu both of you, you know nothing.
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ye,x-plode is the new G0d here!!!
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It's actually an endless loop...
Account ban > new acc
IP Ban > many people has dynamic IPs everytime they restart modem, VIOLA! new IP
EVEN if u consider MAC Address > There will be many Cyber cafes crying about unbanning their MAC addresses because they can't control everyone especially in big cyber cafes with above 100 computers in it.
Maybe an epic expert can modify warcraft3 loader exe file to alternate the way it decide to show fogged units. But it sound almost impossible.. bleh :'(
You heard about lock hardware ID?
Learn2Read ? she said Mac adress nab
There is no such thing as hardware id lock.
And MAC address is as useless as IP.
stfu both of you, you know nothing.
i admid i have 0 knowledge about pc's since im more into gaming that anything else
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cyber cafés should have enough pc protection to not allow mh to be even downloaded
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cyber cafés should have enough pc protection to not allow mh to be even downloaded
In Soviet Russia Cyber Cafes they ban people who dont have MH ...
Just like in my country....
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It's actually an endless loop...
Account ban > new acc
IP Ban > many people has dynamic IPs everytime they restart modem, VIOLA! new IP
EVEN if u consider MAC Address > There will be many Cyber cafes crying about unbanning their MAC addresses because they can't control everyone especially in big cyber cafes with above 100 computers in it.
Maybe an epic expert can modify warcraft3 loader exe file to alternate the way it decide to show fogged units. But it sound almost impossible.. bleh :'(
You heard about lock hardware ID?
Learn2Read ? she said Mac adress nab
There is no such thing as hardware id lock.
And MAC address is as useless as IP.
stfu both of you, you know nothing.
And like you know... i bet now you don't know about MAC adress and you talk just to talk...
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i bet he is much cleverer than u .
shade , sometimes google lies :)
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i bet he is much cleverer than u .
shade , sometimes google lies :)
Another fan now omg just leave me alone...
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lol
we all <3 u
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And like you know... i bet now you don't know about MAC adress and you talk just to talk...
He said that a ban on based on physical adress is as useless as an IP ban, and I agree with him.
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lol
we all <3 u
i cum on his avatar...
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Icy pig decent comment of urs
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First time i met icypig ingame was in a "pro" balkan game, he played cm and laned with cent.
They died 2/3 times and i looked into their inventories and saw a dagger on both after 20 min, nothing else.
Of course we lost 10 min later.
I wished he had MH so he could use dagger to escape.
True story.
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20 min cm dagger decent when laning w cent
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And like you know... i bet now you don't know about MAC adress and you talk just to talk...
He said that a ban on based on physical adress is as useless as an IP ban, and I agree with him.
yes that is bad news they ban only by locking ip.... i wish they block their hardware ID! better idia :D