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Title: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 12, 2010, 10:00
take nerub and you have what, 603? gold

starting items: 3 tangos, healing salve and 2 circlets for little hp n damage

game role: roaming carry (as soon radiance is achieved)

Go solo mid. dont care about getting first bloods yet, just farm farm farm until you have 3800 n. buy relic. then you maybe could gank someone with imba +60 damage. (with good farm 3800gold can take 8-16mins imo). after that you can choose, make str treads or finish radiance.

then you could make few bracers to get your hp atleast 1k.

after that, next item depends on what you are playing against. if enemy has target skills, make linken and then bfly OR manta.

why manta? well linken + weavers ulti + manta dodge, you are untouchable even enemy has gem. add bfly to this and i can guarantee you will win unless your teammates have no fucking clue how to play.

stats build: max geminate attack and shukuchi. take u lti lvl 6. when both maxed, you should imo take stats because the 1st skill costs too much mana. if you dont have mana for shukuchi you really cant chase anyone or dodge stuns etc.

how to get kills? autoattack and chase with radi woot:o!
how to survive? use your brains! dont go alone against 5 heroes! fight in group and surprise enemies with your crazy damage!
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dzony on November 12, 2010, 10:05
are you fine?
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: jojomojo on November 12, 2010, 10:28
fail strategy. .1st skill of nerub is faking imba. ..
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on November 12, 2010, 11:23
good for u that we cant rate it.it would go to -infinite xD
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 12, 2010, 16:04
fail strategy. .1st skill of nerub is faking imba. ..
why so? its only effective later game when you actually have more mana then 200. you wont even have mana for few shukuchis n ulti at the moment.

IMBA LOLZ BUY NULL TALISMAN N MAGIC STAFF ? NOT

check these and maybe you'll understand. i looked up for about 10 weaver games from me

wins:
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=898834 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=898834)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=785446 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=785446)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=750769 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=750769)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=391765 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=391765)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=252623 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=252623)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=221835 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=221835)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=186892 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=186892)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=122656 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=122656)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=117050 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=117050)
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=86813 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=86813)

and this game:
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=440196 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=440196)

true loss without farming. there are few other games where i have lost; due to shitty farm. one game was so unbalanced i mad desolator for weaver which propably is the worst item for him lulz

Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: jojomojo on November 12, 2010, 16:15
you can check your oponents gamelist. .APEMSO NOOBS apso noobs. ..and then they join your game,you pwn them. ..and thats a good weaver? o.o
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on November 12, 2010, 19:21
lolololol solo mid with weaver ftw  sf  > 2 razes dead   any other nuker > 2 nukes > dead
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on November 12, 2010, 19:35
can u make an alt+tab guide?
i would rly like to use this guide :D :D :D XD
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on November 12, 2010, 20:29
can u make an alt+tab guide?
i would rly like to use this guide :D :D :D XD
http://www.playdota.com/guides/invisible-threat (http://www.playdota.com/guides/invisible-threat) < all
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on November 12, 2010, 21:30
ahahahhahahah,dagger on weaver xD

HoT,BoT...oh cmooooon
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 12, 2010, 23:09
lolololol solo mid with weaver ftw  sf  > 2 razes dead   any other nuker > 2 nukes > dead
im not retard enough to stay still autoattacking creeps while you shadowraze me, nub.

*edit* same goes against lina etc. you must really be a real fucking tard to get nuked twice or more times if you just FARM creeps at your tower.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on November 12, 2010, 23:38
lol wanna try game vs me ? il be sf  and ul be weaver in mid   il c how u will farm @ ur tower when il deny every fucking creep in lane with 40% or lower hp
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 13, 2010, 01:25
you would have to leave mid anyways to gank when we use 3x1x1 lanes so free farm for me again
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on November 13, 2010, 01:33
you would have to leave mid anyways to gank when we use 3x1x1 lanes so free farm for me again
so lets try ? get 4 friends and lets do it  pm me  when ur rdy
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 13, 2010, 01:37
i dont care if i won or lost a match im just saying that weaver in good hands could farm mid EASILY even you had billion wards.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: Sirinity on November 13, 2010, 05:45
U can't base ur item build like this,u should try to rotate ur items according the heroes ur facing.
I had some great experiences with linken but by all means I'd consider burriza,mkb ower radi any time.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on November 13, 2010, 08:58
you would have to leave mid anyways to gank when we use 3x1x1 lanes so free farm for me again
give me a pub game where u played trilane...pls
and in cm they wont take weaver for carry...
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: flamestodust on November 13, 2010, 10:05
get some bracelets for dmg. lol wtf ? <

2nd shukuchi needs only 60 mana , so u can get 200 ~ with few branches.

3. radiance sucks. it takes u to long 2 farm , mby u can use it as late game item , but first build is mkb. or manta , depends on farming and what u want to do(variable)

because it`s partial item , u get dmg faster already in early game without big farm. +mini stun with double attack imbah. disables tp. so fck radiance. useless.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 13, 2010, 16:06
ive tried mkb and it doesnt even work with geminate attack. geminate attack doesnt work with buriza either or skadi so what the fuck are you guys on weed or wut?

also radi doesnt take any fucking time to farm unless your a total moron or your 2v1 3v1 in mid.

*edit*

also for flametodust cant you read nab?
2 circlets for little hp n damage
then you could make few bracers to get your hp atleast 1k.

circlets gives you few stats therefore better damage and additinal hp. bracers are for hp too.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: sanama on November 13, 2010, 16:43
he's right about mkb, it's way better than radi... and those 10 games you posted.... check weaver's enemies in those 10 games u posted there is only 1 that u can call semi-pro (or close to semi-pro and that's that "not_tiesto" guy)
1 on 1 on mid, u can't do much cuz there's an nuker oponent in pretty much every pro game on mid... and 1 vs 2 on lane, in pro game u die even if u hide behind tower in ww :D everybody nukes u when u come in to fight, and that means u get silence the milisec u get out of ww and prob some more cc enough to kill u even if u have vanguard on low lvl.... my suggestion... try radi in pro game, and u will se how it will end :)
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: Domagoj on November 13, 2010, 20:58
I prefer buriza over mkb since they introduced true strike, but that can easily be turned off, and buriza DOES work with geminate, even monkey works if you disable true strike. Also, nerubs first item (after boots and circlets/branches/whatnot) should be of defensive nature, like vanguard or linken, cause in most games there will be at least one nuker that will make short work of you. And yes, both buriza and mkb are better than radiance.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 13, 2010, 23:45
ive played priv games n stacked up league team games with weaver n didnt have problem with radiance.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on November 14, 2010, 00:32
ive played priv games n stacked up league team games with weaver n didnt have problem with radiance.
give me a replay pl0x
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on November 14, 2010, 01:35
lol buriza works fine with geminate i personaly    get phase first (or vanguard depends on oponent team and situation of game )  later on i get linken (if i need 2 ) then buriza  and buterfly/manta
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 20, 2010, 03:58
ive played priv games n stacked up league team games with weaver n didnt have problem with radiance.
give me a replay pl0x
well you can ask yourself why weaver is autobanned in -cm mode. becuz itz ez n imba.

*edit* did you even know its ab hero?
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on November 20, 2010, 04:09
if u mean ab hero --> autoban hero than y ,
quon posted it on forum as i remember , or i read it somewhere
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 20, 2010, 04:21
if u mean ab hero --> autoban hero than y ,
quon posted it on forum as i remember , or i read it somewhere
i remember some asian guy raping any hero with weaver (the hero wasnt autobanned atm). getting radi early game > pain in the ass for enemy.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: PerverzniUm on November 20, 2010, 10:36
this was a game 3v1 they refused to sw and chat was muted ... my build is based on taking max dmg and surviving while killing em, so dont say this that item = crap when the other 2 players left i had 1.9k gold from their sold items and i did the best i could from it! btw i had buriza and radiance but sold it made other items cos of blade mail and needed hp they nukers

http://img413.imageshack.us/f/weaver.jpg/ (http://img413.imageshack.us/f/weaver.jpg/)
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: [kosarkas] on November 20, 2010, 10:47
this was a game 3v1 they refused to sw and chat was muted ... my build is based on taking max dmg and surviving while killing em, so dont say this that item = crap when the other 2 players left i had 1.9k gold from their sold items and i did the best i could from it! btw i had buriza and radiance but sold it made other items cos of blade mail and needed hp they nukers

http://img413.imageshack.us/f/weaver.jpg/ (http://img413.imageshack.us/f/weaver.jpg/)

hahahaha PRO players with no gem!!!U so pro :O teach me pls...joined a noob game???
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: PerverzniUm on November 20, 2010, 11:48
this was a game 3v1 they refused to sw and chat was muted ... my build is based on taking max dmg and surviving while killing em, so dont say this that item = crap when the other 2 players left i had 1.9k gold from their sold items and i did the best i could from it! btw i had buriza and radiance but sold it made other items cos of blade mail and needed hp they nukers

http://img413.imageshack.us/f/weaver.jpg/ (http://img413.imageshack.us/f/weaver.jpg/)

hahahaha PRO players with no gem!!!U so pro :O teach me pls...joined a noob game???
the f are u talking about?? did u miss the tread u where supposed to post in? i dont get u at all.  who sad anything about pro? where did u get that did u mb dream about it ? i dont rly understand such useless posts as urs, was it supposed to do any good or prove something? ur u just like to spamm.
 

all i did was post my recent weaver game and an img of it ... they had all in all 7 gems not that it matter cos vs weaver u can even have 200 wards on map wont help u ..its that kind of hero, i just posted this to state how the build dependents on the situation and circumstances of vs what heroes u play was it that hard to understand  ( ili ti to samo ono malo caknut i fali ti koja daska u glovi)


Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on November 20, 2010, 18:39
Lets see balanar +rhasta =bb weaver altho rhasta with any good nuker can take out weaver without problems
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: CHEAT on November 27, 2010, 16:57
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=971636 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=971636)

another pub try with weaver, radi under 20mins. ofc this surely wont happen in league games but it still shows how easy it is to get farm with weaver (weaver banned thought)
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on November 27, 2010, 17:11
wanna play 1v1? :))
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on November 27, 2010, 17:48
me want plz
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: Juggernaut99 on December 14, 2010, 03:21
good for u that we cant rate it.it would go to -infinite xD
lol
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: ArizaelCZ on December 14, 2010, 12:24
I've realy loled when I read the sentence on pd.com that weaver is an initiator.

@Vaikiss - I get sick everytime i see weaver with vanguard. 2k gold wasted on nothing, if you need hp str treads and bracer is the way.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on December 14, 2010, 12:25
vanguard is fine if ur not playing against casters
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 13:46
y , true
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on December 14, 2010, 14:10
me want plz
ull be so dead xD
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on December 14, 2010, 14:13
call me to observ
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on December 14, 2010, 14:20
call me to observ
first i have to wait till my ban expires coz i 'unplugged' at a game where i was losing 0:2...
But we can play on fawkz :)
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 14:25
me giva ja name ? we plai ^^
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: ArizaelCZ on December 14, 2010, 15:30
call me to observ
first i have to wait till my ban expires coz i 'unplugged' at a game where i was losing 0:2...
But we can play on fawkz :)

xeny we give double ban for that.....
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on December 14, 2010, 15:41
call me to observ
first i have to wait till my ban expires coz i 'unplugged' at a game where i was losing 0:2...
But we can play on fawkz :)

xeny we give double ban for that.....
for what ?  lol read rules plx
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 15:48
Using more than 1 account to evade a ban is not allowed.
  NOTE: It is allowed to have more than 1 accounts on different realms.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on December 14, 2010, 15:50
so i have Vaikiss in rgc/xpam/fawkz  if il play with this acc on other real it wont be ban evading or w/e
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 15:52
u r not allowed to use another account if u r banned ! ?
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on December 14, 2010, 15:55
i won't use another account il just log to another realm with same account ?
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 15:58
u r allowed to use moar accounts , but not if u r banned .
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: ArizaelCZ on December 14, 2010, 16:00
You didn't get it. That note allows you to have an account on different realms but not to avoid ban with them.

It will be clearly stated in the new rules, but belive I could ban you for it right now. Why don't you post unban req?

p.s. We are getting little offtopic here.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 16:18
You didn't get it. That note allows you to have an account on different realms but not to avoid ban with them.

It will be clearly stated in the new rules, but belive I could ban you for it right now. Why don't you post unban req?

p.s. We are getting little offtopic here.
u can ban who ?
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: ArizaelCZ on December 14, 2010, 16:23
Xeny, for ban avoidance.
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 16:24
he isnt doing it :O ?
he just said that we can ( y he can but he wont xD, not bcs of breaking rule ! bcs he is scared :P  ) play
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on December 14, 2010, 16:46
i posted unban req but thug denied it coz he thinks that i restarted my pc on purpose,dont wanted to argue about that coz i wont be near pc in these days.why would i even plug with 0 2 ?o.O and check my stats and when did i left,plugged.had 10x worse stats and didnt plugged(i dont care about stats)
havent done that to avoid ban but i would had if u didnt said that,coz its stated wrong in rules.
So every1 could use that hole in the rule
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: vaikiss on December 14, 2010, 17:16
When i was perma banned mods knew that i was playing and they said nothing about it
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on December 14, 2010, 19:54
well,i think that 99% of the server understood that rule as i did...
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: Juggernaut99 on December 14, 2010, 19:55
is this still about nerubian weaver?
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: XenyStyle on December 14, 2010, 20:14
is this still about nerubian weaver?
ofc.copy our posts,paste em to notepad and change font size to 16px.
We wrote some secret infos about nerub in 0,3 font size :D
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: dRagoLjuB on December 14, 2010, 20:19
xDDDDDDDD
smth like this :
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs068.snc3/13565_182605807384_32769817384_3352295_8047841_n.jpg)
:P
Title: Re: nerubian weaver (short n. simple strategy)
Post by: Flying_penguin on December 16, 2010, 22:38
now for real: pt, bracer, urn, buriza, manta, radiance, rapier  ( ur proly going t finish the game while building manta)
skills: suchblablabla, geminate atack, and ulti...max, stats and do not ever upgrade bugs...they are so freakin tarded ...work only for keeping noobs busy while u rape them and poor scouting...

tactics: run around, flame, steal as much as possible, look nice...and gg
if som1 have anything against this...go to the federal judge...