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Strategy Discussion Section => DotA Discussion => Topic started by: [kosarkas] on October 19, 2010, 20:07
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It's my first time starting a topic and I don't know if anyone started one like this...if they have sry!:)
Anyways I am tempted to say Tinker is the best dissabler cause of his ability to permahex some1...
What do you think?=)
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Bane is certainly one of top 5 disablers... put 1 hero asleep, fuck up dmg of some high - dps opponent + catch another with your ult while ur carry rapes him. What more can u ask for?
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lion rhasta
many supp.
warlock : you can buy hex , scepter , shiva , refresher and orchied (ofc u need gold xD )
so 4. golems , silence , hex , slow shiva , +slow skill
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Forgot about bane...:/ But if played correctly Storm is a gr8 dissabler,no1 can escape!
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Agreed, but if clinkz with orchid focuses storm, he is in big trouble.
EDIT: Actually everyone is fucked up, except if u r Bane and cast Enfeeble on him before team clash. Or some other exceptions... XD
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Agreed, but if clinkz with orchid focuses storm, he is in big trouble.
EDIT: Actually everyone is fucked up, except if u r Bane and cast Enfeeble on him before team clash. Or some other exceptions... XD
Linken
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Agreed, but if clinkz with orchid focuses storm, he is in big trouble.
EDIT: Actually everyone is fucked up, except if u r Bane and cast Enfeeble on him before team clash. Or some other exceptions... XD
Linken
That's one of those unmentioned ^^
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Hahahha Edited ;)
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Hahahha Edited ;)
Yeah, only n00bs edit posts :D
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Hahahha Edited ;)
Yeah, only n00bs edit posts :D
MissWRITE(missclick) ;) ;) ;) hhaha
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No, MissTHINK actually ;D
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Rhasta with cyclone > one hexed,one cycloned and one in web (not to mention the ultymate "trap")
You play vs rhasta ? Prepare to get owned :)
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Its difficult to find the best disabler cause every hero has some pros and cons. For instance a properly casted ulti by enigma can trap all 5 heroes but then how many times do you see an enigma trapping all 5 heroes??
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Its difficult to find the best disabler cause every hero has some pros and cons. For instance a properly casted ulti by enigma can trap all 5 heroes but then how many times do you see an enigma trapping all 5 heroes??
I agree with enigma and with refresher its surely a whipe out...
Rhasta with cyclone > one hexed,one cycloned and one in web (not to mention the ultymate "trap")
You play vs rhasta ? Prepare to get owned :)
And lion with guiniso and cyclone?And u got mana drain to dissable their spells...
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DK has nice disable skill
Dragon Tail (T)
Knight Davion bashes a melee-range enemy target with the fury of a dragon`s tail swipe. Stuns the target and deals minor damage.
Level 1 - Deals 25 damage, Stuns for 2.5 seconds.
Level 2 - Deals 50 damage, stuns for 2.75 seconds.
Level 3 - Deals 75 damage, stuns for 3 seconds.
Level 4 - Deals 100 damage, stuns for 3.25 seconds.
Mana Cost: 100
Cooldown: 9 seconds
i want to tell that Dragon tail stun immediately...
Ex. Disable slardar stun, Sand king ulti, Nevermore ulti, and other...
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rhasta is best disabler
leon has no match against rhastas disable couse his stun is crap compared to shakle
and rest heros has only 1 disable spell so they doesn't count as proper disablers
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rhasta is best disabler
leon has no match against rhastas disable couse his stun is crap compared to shakle
and rest heros has only 1 disable spell so they doesn't count as proper disablers
Ok u can get rhasta hex and cyclone and u got 4 dissables + u can trap the one in cyclone un u'r ulti!
Now Bane...u can dissable the "carry" with - dmg (enfeeble), put the "tank" to sleep (Nightmare) and get their dissabler/supporter with your ulti,then u get guiniso and cyclone...so u got 2 more dissables...what about this?The enfeeble against heroes with splash is priceless...DK has nice disable skill
Dragon Tail (T)
Knight Davion bashes a melee-range enemy target with the fury of a dragon`s tail swipe. Stuns the target and deals minor damage.
Level 1 - Deals 25 damage, Stuns for 2.5 seconds.
Level 2 - Deals 50 damage, stuns for 2.75 seconds.
Level 3 - Deals 75 damage, stuns for 3 seconds.
Level 4 - Deals 100 damage, stuns for 3.25 seconds.
Mana Cost: 100
Cooldown: 9 seconds
i want to tell that Dragon tail stun immediately...
Ex. Disable slardar stun, Sand king ulti, Nevermore ulti, and other...
U have to be in close combat to use his stun...and when u are in dragon form u are in range so when some1 starts running u have to get 2 him...thought about that?
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Tinker ! how does perma hex sound ? =P and rhasta
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Sure, but if you are facing bristle with hood u won't do even 200 dmg to him when u ult (if u hit him in the back). That's just gay.
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panda ftw(ofc against carry :p ) 2 slows,1 with high miss,with ulti got stun,cyclone,dispell.and he is a great tank,carry :D
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Tinker ! how does perma hex sound ? =P and rhasta
but you need shipstick to perma hex, find hero only with abilities to disable so one of the best is Rhasta - and if equipped with cyclone trap in wards is funny,Lion is not that strong but if you got both in your team youre the winner ;D next Bane - sleep the biggest threat, enfeeble carry and catch some1 for the team - and dont mentioned if equipped, necrobook with ulti devastating
and dont forget Geomancer - perma net in AOE with high range, with spoof spoof spoof.... combo :) and slow to death strike
OFC every stun or disable is welcome in team ;)
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Any one fogrgoth about thrall? aoe sielcne,dps,and block
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Any one fogrgoth about thrall? aoe sielcne,dps,and block
ye..,hate that fag :P
good at mid when u send ur enemy home,who just ported there :D
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I think ... till lvl 16 ... not late game...
best disable is Lina with aghanim...
She cast 3 spells on you.. in 1 sec...
an u are disabled about a min... with minus gold an back at fountain...
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I think ... till lvl 16 ... not late game...
best disable is Lina with aghanim...
She cast 3 spells on you.. in 1 sec...
an u are disabled about a min... with minus gold an back at fountain...
and 4k HP cent is laughing ;D
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Where would cent get 4k hp in early/mid game? And why would Lina nuke cent anyway?
+1 to Major ;D
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#1st - Invoker
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Far Seer could be considered a disabler too :P
Trap/Silence/Warp back.
Lion is better disabler than rhasta. Stun is aoe and isn't channeling.
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#1st - Invoker
LOL, Ramb.O actually using his mind before posting :)), this is lmao :D:D
+1 for Invoker. No words needed.
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My vote is going atroposS:
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#1st - Invoker
ye but only when he got aghanim and in mid and late game
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#1st - Invoker
ye but only when he got aghanim and in mid and late game
Why ? His disabling skills rely on Quas, that can be maxed ( and a level 3 ultimate ) roughly ~15min. Cold snap >>>>>>> ALL ? shackle,voodoo, stun etc !
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ye but thats 1 disable only and at lower lvl u cant spam ur skills...
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ye but thats 1 disable only and at lower lvl u cant spam ur skills...
Ye, lol . At lower lvl who can afford to spam his disabling skills ? ps : Cold snap has pretty low mana cost and low cooldown.
And I only mentioned 1 skill, he also has tornado, emp(is semi-disable), blast, ice wall and even ghost walk slows enemies.
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ye but thats 1 disable only and at lower lvl u cant spam ur skills...
Ye, lol . At lower lvl who can afford to spam his disabling skills ? ps : Cold snap has pretty low mana cost and low cooldown.
And I only mentioned 1 skill, he also has tornado, emp(is semi-disable), blast, ice wall and even ghost walk slows enemies.
thats why i said he is #1 dissabler but in mid,late game coz of those tons of skills.wouldnt say that he is one of the best dissablers at low lvl
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#1st - Invoker
ye but only when he got aghanim and in mid and late game
lol, topic is not about "when" and what items hero has. Is who is? rigth?
Invoker with enough mana can mega-diasable
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Lion, Veng, Rhasta, Bane, CM, ES...
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lol, topic is not about "when" and what items hero has. Is who is? rigth?
Invoker with enough mana can mega-diasable
hmm,the only replies i can see at this topic are ''xy hero with cyclone,hex,shiva,refresher,skadi,silence staff(cant remember the name :P ) is the best disabler...''
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Riki could be nice "Disabler" with his smoke...
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Riki could be nice "Disabler" with his smoke...
Get MKB and rape him in smoke with true strike ^^
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rhasta - hex, shackle and jail some1 or block ramp with ulti.
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I belive theres no best <role> , its about skill, team mates, enemy pick and situation
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tech stun ? and if they all trap u can cast again for another stun
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Rhasta/Lion
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There's no "dissabler" in Dota. That word just doesn't exist.
Topic terminated !
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There's no "dissabler" in Dota. That word just doesn't exist.
Topic terminated !
There's no dissabler, but there are tanks and carry?HAAHAHHAHAAHA...
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There's no "dissabler" in Dota. That word just doesn't exist.
Topic terminated !
lol u r totaly retarded.
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2 bad noobs who visit this thread doesn't know what "dissable" means
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2 bad noobs who visit this thread doesn't know what "dissable" means
????? LoL ?????
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2 bad noobs who visit this thread doesn't know what "dissable" means
And by noobs you mean (mentally) disabled people ? :)
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2 bad noobs who visit this thread doesn't know what "dissable" means
And by noobs you mean (mentally) disabled people ? :)
They always play carry :P :P Or those 1 click heroes :P :P
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only rhasta can properly disable oponents in battle
ofc bane also fine with disabling couse of grip and nightmare but rhasta is better imo couse bane is dependant on lvl for grip and rhasta on 8 lvl has his maximum potentiantial in disabling
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The word "dissable" means - is someone worth of disrespecting.
In the american slang language "dissing" someone means disrespecting him.
So the best diss-able hero in dota? Lets ask mr hotbarbecow what he thinks what it is?
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The word "dissable" means - is someone worth of disrespecting.
In the american slang language "dissing" someone means disrespecting him.
So the best diss-able hero in dota? Lets ask mr hotbarbecow what he thinks what it is?
AHAHAHA..."dissable" does not mean disrespect...Go to roshan and let him kill you...
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teach me the difference between dissable and disable. do you know how one sounds and how the other sounds? the first sounds like dis-abl, the second is dis-eybl. kk bb.
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teach me the difference between dissable and disable. do you know how one sounds and how the other sounds? the first sounds like dis-abl, the second is dis-eybl. kk bb.
true but we r not on english class...every1 got what he wanted to say with dissable...
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teach me the difference between dissable and disable. do you know how one sounds and how the other sounds? the first sounds like dis-abl, the second is dis-eybl. kk bb.
Yes, the topic is about english...hahaha
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Kosarkas u are Bo2
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Kosarkas u are Bo2
Look who speaks :D The biggest failer in history of DotA XD
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Kosarkas u are Bo2
ThX....u are 2 gay to be ok!;D
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I suggest locking this...turned out to flame as ussual
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I suggest locking this...turned out to flame as ussual
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Agree...
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1st: Obvious, Lion. 2nd: Enigma, obvious aswell, reliable and an awesome long-lasting stun + 5second aoe disable that nothing can block 3rd: Earthshaker: For having 3 stuns. 4th: Rexxar with imba pig and now recently beefed his hawk, he goes auto-invis(keep making dota more noob friendly, we need another riki/murloc buff) 60second cd if I recall and goes through all immunity, same do his axes(physical damage)
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Waffen_SS: It's really situational so they're not the best disablers, rhasta and bane need complete peace to fullfill all the seconds needed in the chain-disables without being touched whilest they are channeling their spells, so no they are not the best disablers.
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lol void is best disabler for real
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Waffen_SS: It's really situational so they're not the best disablers, rhasta and bane need complete peace to fullfill all the seconds needed in the chain-disables without being touched whilest they are channeling their spells, so no they are not the best disablers.
LOL...bane's ulti is the only channeling skill he has!!!Nightmare and enfeeble(- dmg) are not channeling and they are great for taking the "TANKS and CARRIES" out of combat...:S
lol void is best disabler for real
If the ulti is casted correctly...yeah...
The best thing i saw is with pit lords pit...it goes through avatar and yourneros ulti xD
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1st: Obvious, Lion. 2nd: Enigma, obvious aswell, reliable and an awesome long-lasting stun + 5second aoe disable that nothing can block
What kind of DotA do you play?
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1st: Obvious, Lion. 2nd: Enigma, obvious aswell, reliable and an awesome long-lasting stun + 5second aoe disable that nothing can block 3rd: Earthshaker: For having 3 stuns. 4th: Rexxar with imba pig and now recently beefed his hawk, he goes auto-invis(keep making dota more noob friendly, we need another riki/murloc buff) 60second cd if I recall and goes through all immunity, same do his axes(physical damage)
agree
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PLN: I play clanwars and when we're talking about best disablers I'm referring to real games, but as you might see from my stats I've played alot of pub recently.. (nick linkoo) do you disagree with my list or are you just interested in where I play?
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rexar not even close to disabler lol pig has poor slow and if theres clash he dies after first 2 aoe spells also axes poor dmg if oponent gets basilus thats even worse and his stun is nothing impresive also so rex is crap if talking about disablers enigma also disabling only one per couple mins thats sux hard
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"rexar not even close to disabler lol pig has poor slow and if theres clash he dies after first 2 aoe spells also axes poor dmg if oponent gets basilus thats even worse and his stun is nothing impresive also so rex is crap if talking about disablers enigma also disabling only one per couple mins thats sux hard"
You cant be serious...
Rexxar not even close to a disabler... I'm not talking about your avarage full of agi carries pub, I'm talking about a real clanwar, Rexxar is one of the greatest heroes in the game and this is why: his bird gives HUGE vision, now in this version the bird is auto-invisible, his axes do 360PHYSICAL damage which is great early game, his pig has 35% slow, his ulti goes through magic immunity...
Regarding Enigma, enigma has a good LONGLASTING stun, aoe 6% maxhp life-lost which is great with his 5 second aoe ultimate You make no sense and are just bullshitting, ask any top-player, and debate on whether they are good disablers or not..
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"rexar not even close to disabler lol pig has poor slow and if theres clash he dies after first 2 aoe spells also axes poor dmg if oponent gets basilus thats even worse and his stun is nothing impresive also so rex is crap if talking about disablers enigma also disabling only one per couple mins thats sux hard"
You cant be serious...
Rexxar not even close to a disabler... I'm not talking about your avarage full of agi carries pub, I'm talking about a real clanwar, Rexxar is one of the greatest heroes in the game and this is why: his bird gives HUGE vision, now in this version the bird is auto-invisible, his axes do 360PHYSICAL damage which is great early game, his pig has 35% slow, his ulti goes through magic immunity...
Regarding Enigma, enigma has a good LONGLASTING stun, aoe 6% maxhp life-lost which is great with his 5 second aoe ultimate You make no sense and are just bullshitting, ask any top-player, and debate on whether they are good disablers or not..
Dude disables...not talking about "one of the best heroes"... :-/ And enigma has 180 secs cd on ulti i think...But I agree about enigma + ulti if casted correctly = whipe out
But I have to agree with vaikiss "Rexxar not even close to a disabler!" you can only disable 1 enemy properly...the other are free to attack and cast spells!
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Early-Mid Game Rexxar is king, as I said earlier pig has 35% slow and 50~ damage with his inner beast aura his pig gets even more a/s which is also great for necrobook. His ulti stuns and slows in an aoe around bm, and he's an early-midgame ganker and he loses his effectiveness late-game
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lol why i should bother playing any other heros than carry in pub games noob ?
and lol how big fanboy of rex u are hes nothing impresive any decent player can dodge axes easily ulti hits only 1 player hes not that good at mid or lane either unless playing vs noobs who can't ward and roam
but since ur iq is not high enought to understand what dissabling stands for then yes rexxar is best disabler in dota 4 real
also ur an impresive player massing games with 4 friends against puber games all day long lol
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............... So these years of high-skill DotA tournaments and hundreds of interesting replays with dominating rexxar you're saying that he's not a good hero judging by your opinion, which frankly I don't think anyone really takes your opinion seriously hence you're just another stupid ignorant pubber with no arguement what-so-ever.
"A decent player can dodge axes easily" oh yeah a decent player can dodge pucks orb, miranas arrow, pudges hook does it mean they're bad players if they get caught in them? You are one of the most retarded persons I've ever had a disagreement with on the internet since the beginning of forums.
"but since ur iq is not high enought to understand what dissabling stands for then yes rexxar is best disabler in dota 4 real"
My IQ is not high enough to understand what disabling stands for? That doesn't make sense. On a totally unrelated note I recommend you take some English classes it hurts my eyes to read your so called "English" and annoys probably the most of the readers when you can't make a simple sentence make sense or even write decent grammar.
"also ur an impresive player massing games with 4 friends against puber games all day long lol"
What I do with my free-time is any of your business and is in any way related to the topic? No it isn't stick to the point instead of making stupid accusations when you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
To summarize: I recommend you watch some fucking replays or play clanwars every once in a while and you will realize the power of the BEASTMASTERRRRRRRR. Also I just realized I wasted 3minutes of my free-time trying to make a point which you won't understand due to obvious reasons hence you're just an ignorant pubber who has probably played DotA alot longer then I have and even though I can take you solo mid with any mid hero(including bm) and you won't ever progress with this kind of attitude towards people when you refuse to accept the FACTS which I'm basing on games with BM myself and replays. If you happen to disagree with what I said I invite your reply, that is if you have a point, not to attack my personal dota career which this arguement is NOT about, stick to the fucking point and learn to argue with people. Have a nice evening you cunt.
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i didin't said that rex is crap but he is not dissabler and not even close to one its same as saying void is nuker when u have mjolnir and buterfly
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Stun = disable Rexxar has a stun, and also nice that you ignore everything else I said, and it's not the same, even hex is a disable, so you can buy an item that allows you to Disable people. Not only does he have a stun, after the target has been stunned it's also slowed.
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yeah and this thread is about who is best dissabler if u thin that rexx is best k then
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I wrote a list, and he was number 4, again with the bullshit assumptions
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btw if u want 2 play versus me pm @ eurobattle il get my 4 amigos and we will do game vs ur pubstomping team
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Go on eu clanwars on rgc or #dota.quake on quakenet you can find me under the name linkoo on irc and Kristjansson on rgc. We'll be playing tomorrow afternoon, good interface for teams on both clients, I(we) don't use eurobattle for cw's hence lack of teams and skill level of players.
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mi think rexor imba #1 dissebla:)
whai? solo mid lvl 1 hawk imba, me get runes! (enemy has faster ms n. better creeping due to axe spamming = money for wards = runes stolen)
i mean WTF what can you do against range dps with rexxar? axes are way too easy to dodge till lvl 6 where u ulti + axe (no shit sherlock, matlock !?!?!)
think about these:
viper vs rexxar gg.
nevermore vs rexxar gg.
trax vs rexxar gg.
any range? vs rexxar gg.
any int nuke vs rexxar gg. (lion, lina ETC.)
u can barely creep when enemy is constantly harrassing you with autoattack. if you leave lane for rune=free farm for enemy (and he denies) = u are lower lvl. gj
but dun worry. me build dagon and ks good kills with axe + dagon :)! best playa on game, then tell to my teammates fak u nabz and leave game :))
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lol . fck ur axes ,
lion + manaburn = hahaha
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lol . fck ur axes ,
lion + manaburn = hahaha
i bet even kunkka can beat n make rexxars farm fail in 1v1 mid. or void? : D.
maybe rexxar against ezalor is rape.
but seriously
if you are mid with rexxar against range dps or other mid solo hero and ending having 3:0 at 20min and 100 creep kills, you just havent played against good players, its a fucking fact.
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actualy mid is not about farming its about geting lvl and ganking side lanes once u get 6 lvl u go gank enemy carrys/supports for more exp and gold and rex ain't that bad at mid but he rly can't stand good viper or any solomid king heros
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actualy mid is not about farming its about geting lvl and ganking side lanes once u get 6 lvl u go gank enemy carrys/supports for more exp and gold and rex ain't that bad at mid but he rly can't stand good viper or any solomid king heros
y thats what i think too, my brains just wouldnt let me type it so easily :)
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cm for mid!!!
When i played a game where kunka didnt let storm go mid coz he is so uber pr0,at 10 min he died about 4 times by cm...
He fed her so much up,that at the end cm made 18 kills and battle fury too...i tought that im gonna delete wc3 when i saw that pro kunka(it was a 'pro' game)
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I regret the day i opened this topic :D :D :D :D hahahahah...lost 10 mins of my life reading this crap ... ;D bye-bye GL & HF
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lol 10 min of life so much
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I regret the day i opened this topic :D :D :D :D hahahahah...lost 10 mins of my life reading this crap ... ;D bye-bye GL & HF
;D I regret to reply to this topic. Neverending updates of this topics are tiresome ;D lock it no more spamms :-X
all in all from this topic = every hero is best disabler ;D
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roshan best disabler case closed
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
or choose zeus in -wtf and after quick 6th lvl stay at fountain cause the best disabler is the one who dont let heroes do anything that means dead heroes :D
in fact every hero is best in -wtf ;D
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
or choose zeus in -wtf and after quick 6th lvl stay at fountain cause the best disabler is the one who dont let heroes do anything that means dead heroes :D
in fact every hero is best in -wtf ;D
if you buy bkb i would like to see that...or cent with blade mail :D
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
or choose zeus in -wtf and after quick 6th lvl stay at fountain cause the best disabler is the one who dont let heroes do anything that means dead heroes :D
in fact every hero is best in -wtf ;D
spectre > ulti spam > fountain dead
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
or choose zeus in -wtf and after quick 6th lvl stay at fountain cause the best disabler is the one who dont let heroes do anything that means dead heroes :D
in fact every hero is best in -wtf ;D
spectre > ulti spam > fountain dead
or twin head with shiva :D if you spamm your skills too fast game crash ;D
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
or choose zeus in -wtf and after quick 6th lvl stay at fountain cause the best disabler is the one who dont let heroes do anything that means dead heroes :D
in fact every hero is best in -wtf ;D
spectre > ulti spam > fountain dead
or twin head with shiva :D if you spamm your skills too fast game crash ;D
buy blademail he dies with you :D
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Lol from disable to kill to fountain kill :D Nice...spam razors clout and pulse and shiva...and your pc will jump out the window... :P
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Tinker with guinsoo and 5 bloodstones :D :D
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Tinker with guinsoo and 5 bloodstones :D :D
or with 5 guinsoos and 1 blood ;D
dammed close this topic already ;D
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Go play -wtf mode and silencer is the best disabler ;D
or choose zeus in -wtf and after quick 6th lvl stay at fountain cause the best disabler is the one who dont let heroes do anything that means dead heroes :D
in fact every hero is best in -wtf ;D
spectre > ulti spam > fountain dead
or twin head with shiva :D if you spamm your skills too fast game crash ;D
no it wont