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Title: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 03, 2016, 23:04
It is out for ages, other clients are using it, it offers the same stuff we are probably going to get after 1-2 years from IceFrog, or maybe we won't even get it, because he seems to have quit on updating DotA after he realized DracoLich will do that for him. The map features a whole lot of things which DOTA 2 has, but IceFrog doesn't want to implement to DotA.
List:
You don't have to drop items for the damn courier to upgrade them, its done just like in DOTA 2, without fucking engine limitations.
All the items are fine and working, along with the new ones added.
You can see the Net Worth of someone looking at the Circle of Power.
You can have your courier pinged from the Circle of Power, although if you bind it just like I do this is useless.
Zoom options, -apzo, you can adjust the camera distance just like in DOTA 2.
Updated effects for skills, including items too (BKB is almost the same as in DOTA 2 and it doesn't take the whole damn screen)
You can setup items in your inventory while they are on cooldown, instead of waiting for no reason.
Bottling a rune works just like in DOTA 2, you don't have to click on the bottle, just right-click the rune.
Here are his thoughts on the new 6.86 and how it is actually uncodeable in the WC3 Engine: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1466987
I see no reason not to play on 6.85k, IceFrog will not release any newer version, he decided to stop the parity between the two games a long time ago, LagAbuse should stop waiting.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 03, 2016, 23:22
k.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 03, 2016, 23:28
k.
ty4post, take+1
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on April 04, 2016, 09:46
I don't personally care but if people want this map we should have a giant poll where everyone can vote to either stay on official map or switch. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on April 04, 2016, 09:57
Switch !
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 04, 2016, 10:36
If you make a poll here, most of the votes will be from staff.
The rest will be like 5 more players...
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: div.ide on April 04, 2016, 10:49
Well, you could temporarily add some kind of a !voteupdate [yes/no] command available for everyone in la channel and do some server-wide announcements to get people to vote. Give it several days, maybe a week to collect data directly from players, and use that as point of reference.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 04, 2016, 11:01
On the other hand, why vote?

If you ask ppl if they want old or new, updated map, guess what the answer will be.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: guest49825 on April 04, 2016, 11:23
Deer doesn't like this idea. Deer, like some else players, spent some time to learn doto with all of these bugs and non-comfortable stuff.
Here are many nuances, that requires time to learn.
   Novice/medium skilled player can't just click and target some hero like veno/atropos;

   He can't perform long/curved/splitted hook, backarrow and such.

   He has no idea where are trees that he should never try to chop/eat from some angles.

   He can't just use courier transfer to autocombine all items/recipes, cause he has no idea about item ordering in transfer action.

   He likely will try multiple times to run away from axe which called him; Cause he has no freaking idea about triggering things in wc3;

   In other words here is many stuff (i wrote few only, because of deer army) that requires spending time, getting experience by facing anything first time and trying to solve it by doing something. Sometimes you can solve it fast, sometimes you have to make 999 different mistakes to get the correct solve.
And i don't fucking want to get new map, cause I will have to just forget everything related to wc3 doto nuances. This knowledge what i was collecting for years may just go right into trash. :/
For those who don't want to read large post:
Hey, players, if you want to play updated doto, maybe try playing doto2? Also deer you for this choise.
And i don't give any deer about your pc's power.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 04, 2016, 11:38
So you don't want updated map because you had to spend some time to learn how current version works, thus you now have advantage over players who have spend less time and with new map you'd lose this advantege?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: div.ide on April 04, 2016, 14:34
And this is precisely why a vote was suggested. To see what do those "some else players" think. You're entitled to have your own opinion, but so are others, and they should not be deprived of choice because of a vocal minority.

I could go on a tangent why your argumentation doesn't hold ground well, but that's beside the point, and - as I've been reminded - significant part of local community doesn't have wide enough attention span for reading elaborate posts.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 04, 2016, 14:55
1. Staff tests the map
2. The map is the same as the one used in d2
3. Upload the map
4. ???
5. Players will whine for about a month cuz cave people don't like changes
6. ???
7. Profit.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 04, 2016, 17:54
No new map, stay on icefrog.

Fcu dracholine .

When icefrog upd 84 or 85 we gona play it.


Have fun.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ext4zy on April 04, 2016, 18:07
No new map, stay on icefrog.

Fcu dracholine .

When icefrog upd 84 or 85 we gona play it.


Have fun.
you really think icefrog will update the new map
I have a clue he won't You know why ? because Volvo doesn't want people to play still Doto1 if Icefrog starts to update the maps , i think the number of the players might be up a lot , because a lot of people don't want the doto2 , i'm talking about oldschool players in my country , city a lot of them i see they are playing doto1 with their friends and ofcourse we want an update of the map who doesn't i have talk like 50-60 people who play doto1 they all say who doesn't want it i mean people here in our city always get excited when the new map is out i too! :)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on April 04, 2016, 19:05
He updated it like 2 times after d2, so Volvo most likely dont give a single shit about it. War3 doto is not a concurrency for valve at all. He just simply doing the updates rarely, cause icefrog don't really give a single shit either :D (sooner or later it will be pushed over the engine limits and stuff and it will be officially over of d1 updates, but it still can have a few happy years i think)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 04, 2016, 19:08
He updated it like 2 times after d2, so Volvo most likely dont give a single shit about it. War3 doto is not a concurrency for valve at all. He just simply doing the updates rarely, cause icefrog don't really give a single shit either :D (sooner or later it will be pushed over the engine limits and stuff and it will be officially over of d1 updates, but it still can have a few happy years i think)
WC3 is already pushed out of engine limitations, and icefrog has stated he wont update any more iirc.
You dont ask ppl if they want a new map or not, u just see a new map and update, thats how its been so far :P we get a newer meta
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 04, 2016, 19:11
And this is precisely why a vote was suggested. To see what do those "some else players" think. You're entitled to have your own opinion, but so are others, and they should not be deprived of choice because of a vocal minority.

I could go on a tangent why your argumentation doesn't hold ground well, but that's beside the point, and - as I've been reminded - significant part of local community doesn't have wide enough attention span for reading elaborate posts.
Well the fact that every other living platform that is on dracolich has more players says that ppl stopped on ebnet cos of the old map and fucked up lycan bug
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Asandir on April 04, 2016, 19:35
This should have been done years ago honestly
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on April 04, 2016, 19:38
This should have been done years ago honestly

Agree
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: na_kacu on April 04, 2016, 19:48
In my small opinion this map should be added at least for some test. I know that changes can cause problems ( hotkeys, meta, bugs), but I think it's opportunity. Valve won't update it and who knows when some one else will try update it.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 04, 2016, 21:49
In my small opinion this map should be added at least for some test. I know that changes can cause problems ( hotkeys, meta, bugs), but I think it's opportunity. Valve won't update it and who knows when some one else will try update it.

Hotkeys can't be a problem, they haven't changed.
At least for me since I use custom hotkeys lmao.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on April 04, 2016, 22:11
Btw, about warkeys, anyone know some warkeys compatible with current map ?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 04, 2016, 22:15
Agent guy, ive been using "dota tool kit" for several years now, its simple and gives you the option to change your hero and inventory hotkeys in whatever you want.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 04, 2016, 22:27
Btw, about warkeys, anyone know some warkeys compatible with current map ?
Not long ago, I made a thread (http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=171896.0).
Or, you can use DotA Toolkit v3.4 which Avira picks up as a virus due to the dumb ads it has, along with the Meepo and Invoker auto-keys which are ban-able lol.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 04, 2016, 22:52
For now you can try it as a custom game.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Nexxus on April 04, 2016, 23:46
Dracolich's map has few bugs, one is Distruptor's ulti dealing no dmg. But since I know the fgt from rgc, it probably has more bugs.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 04, 2016, 23:55
Oh look, i am gormath guy, let me think a way to become cool, oh yeah, i know this guy who stole and edited a map, i must feel cool
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 04, 2016, 23:57
Dracolich's map has few bugs, one is Distruptor's ulti dealing no dmg. But since I know the fgt from rgc, it probably has more bugs.
It deals damage, it might not deal sometimes and itdepends on how close ypu are in case u didnt know... last time i played on rgc it did deal dmg until bkb, maybe this could be ur bug
Still better than perma linkens bug in 6.83 or lycan bug
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 05, 2016, 11:00
Added poll.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: beastiary on April 05, 2016, 16:58
basically agree with monax
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 05, 2016, 18:40
basically agree with monax
Basically whole community > you 2
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Povratnik on April 05, 2016, 18:58
basically agree with monax
Basically whole community > you 2
There are more of us but we just vote coz we dont want to argue....
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 05, 2016, 21:04
I voted for no

Why? Cuz fuck you thats why
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 05, 2016, 21:12
basically agree with monax
Basically whole community > you 2
There are more of us but we just vote coz we dont want to argue....

The problem lies in lagabuse, they shouldn't be giving the choice to play which one u want, we should be playing the meta. Which is 6.86 but isn't and wont be released on WC3, so 6.85.
That was how lagabuse worked in the past and when it had thousands of players, today it has like 1k active maximum daily.

Love it how jeandarc spends his time to -1 every hour, what a lifer.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 05, 2016, 21:21
My first and last time i gave that karma pointless thingy to anyone was like 5 years ago and that was just to see what it actually does xDDDD
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 05, 2016, 22:54
My first and last time i gave that karma pointless thingy to anyone was like 5 years ago and that was just to see what it actually does xDDDD

Ever since then, little jean never touched Karma.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 06, 2016, 02:03
You should be honored that you got the chance to talk to me, lil insect
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: beastiary on April 06, 2016, 07:22
basically agree with monax
Basically whole community > you 2
There are more of us but we just vote coz we dont want to argue....

The problem lies in lagabuse, they shouldn't be giving the choice to play which one u want, we should be playing the meta. Which is 6.86 but isn't and wont be released on WC3, so 6.85.
That was how lagabuse worked in the past and when it had thousands of players, today it has like 1k active maximum daily.

Love it how jeandarc spends his time to -1 every hour, what a lifer.
playing meta jesus christ, meta is just a fucking bubble made around your lil head to make you think some things are good/ you cant play anything else bcos you will autolose. yea if you like thinking in a lil box keep your head there. or open your eyes and get better.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 06, 2016, 16:00
You should be honored that you got the chance to talk to me, lil insect

Who were you again? And where did everyone go? :D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 06, 2016, 16:01
basically agree with monax
Basically whole community > you 2
There are more of us but we just vote coz we dont want to argue....

The problem lies in lagabuse, they shouldn't be giving the choice to play which one u want, we should be playing the meta. Which is 6.86 but isn't and wont be released on WC3, so 6.85.
That was how lagabuse worked in the past and when it had thousands of players, today it has like 1k active maximum daily.

Love it how jeandarc spends his time to -1 every hour, what a lifer.
playing meta jesus christ, meta is just a fucking bubble made around your lil head to make you think some things are good/ you cant play anything else bcos you will autolose. yea if you like thinking in a lil box keep your head there. or open your eyes and get better.

Are you someone who is stuck at 1500 PSR and cries about the game being unbalanced? DotA can't be balanced, some heroes are better at the game in some patches, some aren't. It doesn't mean u instapick them and win, if someone picks a good counter but KNOWS how to fucking play correctly as YOUR COUNTER, he should do better. Ofcourse, people pick counters and fuck up, then say its impossible to counter X hero.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 06, 2016, 16:41
Kverti u just got roasted son, dotadrenaline guy just school'd you.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: beastiary on April 06, 2016, 19:16
Kverti u just got roasted son, dotadrenaline guy just school'd you.

he doesnt even know what i said lol
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 06, 2016, 19:17
Kverti u just got roasted son, dotadrenaline guy just school'd you.
I dont give a shit if he is iplayqwerty or not, he is crying about dota like a fucking 1500 psr player even tho he isnt one iirc.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 06, 2016, 22:16
If im not wrong u are 1500psr player and flamer blamer etc.

Show us your acc pls. 4Head
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 06, 2016, 22:43
Kverti u just got roasted son, dotadrenaline guy just school'd you.

he doesnt even know what i said lol

https://youtu.be/_tWC5qtfby4
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 06, 2016, 23:11
If im not wrong u are 1500psr player and flamer blamer etc.

Show us your acc pls. 4Head

im a flamer but so is everyone, take a look at jeandarc's profile. (warns)
and he is like 1750, so he still flames.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 07, 2016, 12:56
If im not wrong u are 1500psr player and flamer blamer etc.

Show us your acc pls. 4Head

im a flamer but so is everyone, take a look at jeandarc's profile. (warns)
and he is like 1750, so he still flames.

I was never banned or even warned by any mod when I played here.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on April 07, 2016, 13:51
If im not wrong u are 1500psr player and flamer blamer etc.

Show us your acc pls. 4Head

im a flamer but so is everyone, take a look at jeandarc's profile. (warns)
and he is like 1750, so he still flames.

I was never banned or even warned by any mod when I played here.
Neither I :)

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=player;sid=1;nick=[lamb.of.god] (http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=player;sid=1;nick=[lamb.of.god)

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=player;sid=1;nick=gojira. (http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=player;sid=1;nick=gojira.)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 07, 2016, 21:44
If im not wrong u are 1500psr player and flamer blamer etc.

Show us your acc pls. 4Head

im a flamer but so is everyone, take a look at jeandarc's profile. (warns)
and he is like 1750, so he still flames.

I was never banned or even warned by any mod when I played here.

Does that mean u dont play here anymore??
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Bart on April 07, 2016, 22:04
yes
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 07, 2016, 22:37
Thanks, Emperor!
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 07, 2016, 22:57
yes
Expect Troll Productions 6.85k
PogChamp
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 07, 2016, 23:54
Lagabuse is starting to evolve, even dotadrenaline guy uses twitch emotes, very impressive for an insect
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 08, 2016, 06:57
Lagabuse is starting to evolve, even dotadrenaline guy uses twitch emotes, very impressive for an insect
Stop stealing my lines.
Go back to polishing my shoes.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 08, 2016, 17:16
Lagabuse is starting to evolve, even dotadrenaline guy uses twitch emotes, very impressive for an insect

Bitch plz, I have been using Kappa before I even joined noobabuse :D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 08, 2016, 22:51
Lagabuse is starting to evolve, even dotadrenaline guy uses twitch emotes, very impressive for an insect
Stop stealing my lines.
Go back to polishing my shoes.

Kappa? I used that.
Lines? I see that.
Flame? I do that.

But im not a rapper.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 08, 2016, 23:02
Loooool embryo guy, you are killing me, my stomch hurts, pls stahp with your funneh jokes, you roasted every single member of this forum already.

https://youtu.be/BrPxWg8JFlg
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 09, 2016, 00:03
Loooool embryo guy, you are killing me, my stomch hurts, pls stahp with your funneh jokes, you roasted every single member of this forum already.

https://youtu.be/BrPxWg8JFlg
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main ()
if (allroasted == true)
     cout << "All members roasted!";
else
     cout << "Jean sux boiii, cos he a fucking noob boiiiii";
// My point wasnt to fucking roast, seems like u just saw the vid lol.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on April 18, 2016, 01:12
14 yes > 10 no

So, have you tested it ?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Asandir on April 20, 2016, 17:27
!bump
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 20, 2016, 19:38
14 yes > 10 no

So, have you tested it ?

14 is a weird way to say 16.
Anyway, they have probably downloaded the RGC version with the RGC loadscreen and don't realize that there is a version which works everywhere, the RGC version is for RGC Only, you cant play unless using the RGC bot.
Here is the original version which should work on every platform:
http://d1stats.ru/download/
The one on the LEFT, is the universal version, the one on the right is the RGC only version, with a special loadscreen.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on April 20, 2016, 20:25
The map is uploaded, you can try it.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 22, 2016, 00:45
I just played 3 games with this map on the offical wc3 eu server (some league there) and boy... Where do i even begin. I take back all the shittalk i made for this map, i want to say i was wrong for saying shit about this map without trying it. The map is so refreshing, updated items, updated item recepies, smoother gameplay, amazing updated hero arts, amazing hero skills animations.

I realized that a lot of work was put into making this map and im encouraging the la.com staff to try this map as soon as possible and understand how good and refreshing this map is and add it as the offical new dota map on the la.com bots which will bring fresh experience for all players.

Peace.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Povratnik on April 22, 2016, 18:20
Jean admits that he is wrong....what the acutal fuck did i just read? Is armagedon upon us? Die homo.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on April 27, 2016, 14:13
I think we should consider moving to this map since other leagues are using it too. Now that the 1.27 hell is over I could push the map as an update and then switch the bots default map. Are there any known problems with this new map?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: LexMonster on April 27, 2016, 14:19
We should definitely test it first.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on April 27, 2016, 15:26
I think we should consider moving to this map since other leagues are using it too. Now that the 1.27 hell is over I could push the map as an update and then switch the bots default map. Are there any known problems with this new map?
there is a bug with thrall's ultimate,it doesnt deal damage,as for any other major bugs,ive heard there is none
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ext4zy on April 27, 2016, 18:52
Can't wait for the new map srsly Because this fucking6.83 have a lot of BUGS !!!@@!:@!@:
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on April 27, 2016, 19:14
Can't wait for the new map srsly Because this fucking6.83 have a lot of BUGS !!!@@!:@!@:
Bugs will always exist even in drakolich version i guess, but that map is better for sure and it has development so bugs will actually fixed from time to time, not like icefrog's.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ext4zy on April 27, 2016, 19:35
Can't wait for the new map srsly Because this fucking6.83 have a lot of BUGS !!!@@!:@!@:
Bugs will always exist even in drakolich version i guess, but that map is better for sure and it has development so bugs will actually fixed from time to time, not like icefrog's.
You know what happened today with slark i couldn't click anything with my mouse 1 and 2 i couldn't use F1 i don't know why i was with slark then i had to leave the game for this fucking bug but my mouse and keyboard works just fine tho
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 27, 2016, 20:36
The only bugs in it are:
none.rofl.


Some are complaining about a thrall ulti bug but it depends sometimes it works, who the fk plays thrall anyway on LA, everyone is going for kills -_-
Oh, another thing i have noticed playing on RGC is the map has a -csa and -sta, basically -cs and -st but for allies, there are some bugs with -csa, it isnt correct, shows every player as if they are player 1 and have the same ammount of creeps killed, but thats pretty much it. A problem with it however, not sure if RGC or the map itself, the longer the game goes, lets say 50 minutes, the less FPS slower machines start to have. It is not cos of RAM, i could play 86 minute games once Garena or Lagabuse and they wouldn't lag, with this version they do, on bad machines. Maybe it is rgc but i doubt it, since others are experiencing that "bug".







6.87 hype
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ext4zy on April 28, 2016, 01:13
Staff of la you should start testing the mal and put it here in the server the players would get excited and play more a lot of  things has w
  changed so i hope soon we'll get what we want ;D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 06:40
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 28, 2016, 08:36
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.

We dont need idiots who cant adapt, but afaiknight stalker can adapt, otherwise he would be playing lol, good game for 5yr olds whocant play a game to which uhave to adapt aka dota
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 10:06
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
We dont need idiots who cant adapt
It has nothing to do with adapting, you braindead numbskull, if you want to play the newest map, you can play dota 2 because there is 87 there, but you clearly are too stupid to understand the fact that 83 is far superior to 85.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 28, 2016, 12:04
85 is leshrac and storm version right? And u also can go desolator on bone and weawer?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 12:39
85 is leshrac and storm version right? And u also can go desolator on bone and weawer?
No, that was 84, in 85 storm and lesh got nerfed to shit and those retarded neutral camps with magic resistance got added.

This 85 version was the beginning of braindead 5man fighting all game because stacking and farming is way less efficient. The entire game got screwed up starting right here, in 85.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 28, 2016, 12:58
Dont waste time voting we made a decision to test the map.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 28, 2016, 13:04
I still think we need to folow icefrog like we do for a years.

But u can test it np.


Have fun and have a nice day.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on April 28, 2016, 13:18
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 28, 2016, 13:28
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

https://youtu.be/1s6aNjJRbrA
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 28, 2016, 13:29
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.


Idi uci retard, fuck forum. Zvacu ti parents. :)))
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 14:30
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: goblin on April 28, 2016, 15:11
cunt
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 28, 2016, 17:22
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

About that best player, u didnt play with 1q2w3e4r , so you dont know who is best player, he>qwerty ez to suport he can suport roam with every hero. U can check his games and u will see.

Have fun.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 28, 2016, 17:30
I still think we need to folow icefrog like we do for a years.

But u can test it np.


Have fun and have a nice day.

But icefrog gave up on wc3 dota, he wont waste his time not earning money and coding on JASS which is garbage nowadays
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 28, 2016, 17:32
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

If he doesn't want to play on a newer updated version, he shouldn't play dota. Instead, go play lol. If u cant fucking adapt then dont play dota. Well at least you wont waste your time.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 28, 2016, 17:32
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.

6.85 is actually more balanced and has a bit less bugs on WC3. The best part is it has more features, especially with the circles of power, courier bug fixed, sell stuff from stash (circle) etc.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: mersel123 on April 28, 2016, 19:07
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.

6.85 is actually more balanced and has a bit less bugs on WC3. The best part is it has more features, especially with the circles of power, courier bug fixed, sell stuff from stash (circle) etc.

Realy? we didn't knew that wow that's incredible your heard this guy this guys should be awarded
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 19:59
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

About that best player, u didnt play with 1q2w3e4r , so you dont know who is best player, he>qwerty ez to suport he can suport roam with every hero. U can check his games and u will see.

Have fun.
I played vs him, I know he's decent, but iplayqwerty is much better.
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

If he doesn't want to play on a newer updated version, he shouldn't play dota. Instead, go play lol. If u cant fucking adapt then dont play dota. Well at least you wont waste your time.
You are completely braindead, I already told you it has nothing to do with adapting you fucking idiot, I play this game better on all version than you will ever play it in your entire fucking life for your information, it's about the versions after 85 being inferior.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on April 28, 2016, 20:00
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

About that best player, u didnt play with 1q2w3e4r , so you dont know who is best player, he>qwerty ez to suport he can suport roam with every hero. U can check his games and u will see.

Have fun.
bewater fangay (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/saintsrow/images/5/53/DansGame.png/revision/latest?cb=20130820134712) (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/terraria/images/8/8c/Kappa_pride.png/revision/latest?cb=20150921174252&path-prefix=ru)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 20:34
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

About that best player, u didnt play with 1q2w3e4r , so you dont know who is best player, he>qwerty ez to suport he can suport roam with every hero. U can check his games and u will see.

Have fun.
I played vs him, I know he's decent, but iplayqwerty is much better.
This game and I think some other with similar result but can't be bothered to check:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5913997

As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

If he doesn't want to play on a newer updated version, he shouldn't play dota. Instead, go play lol. If u cant fucking adapt then dont play dota. Well at least you wont waste your time.
You are completely braindead, I already told you it has nothing to do with adapting you fucking idiot, I play this game better on all version than you will ever play it in your entire fucking life for your information, it's about the versions after 85 being inferior.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 28, 2016, 23:08
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

About that best player, u didnt play with 1q2w3e4r , so you dont know who is best player, he>qwerty ez to suport he can suport roam with every hero. U can check his games and u will see.

Have fun.
I played vs him, I know he's decent, but iplayqwerty is much better.
This game and I think some other with similar result but can't be bothered to check:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5913997

As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

If he doesn't want to play on a newer updated version, he shouldn't play dota. Instead, go play lol. If u cant fucking adapt then dont play dota. Well at least you wont waste your time.
You are completely braindead, I already told you it has nothing to do with adapting you fucking idiot, I play this game better on all version than you will ever play it in your entire fucking life for your information, it's about the versions after 85 being inferior.

I heart LoL doesn't need a good PC, so you should do fine.
tldr:
U cant adapt shit, all the pro players are fine even with the 6.87 patch, except for the scan ability which i find retarded in pub games, cos everyone will use it for themselves instead of using it when needed.
Begone, kappa time.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 28, 2016, 23:37
You're kinda braindamaged aren't you.

83>85
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on April 29, 2016, 01:48
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.
hahahahahahahaha,even u are better than him,please,dun embarass urself anymore,we all know ure an egocentric,selfish kid with enough dota skill to rule la pubs,and it completely stops there.No offense to qwerty,hes a good guy,hes just playing with u,tryharding,buying mass obs and sentries when he plays with u,and trying out some team-good item/skill builds on heroes which should never do it in the course of an actual dota game.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 29, 2016, 04:41
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.

About that best player, u didnt play with 1q2w3e4r , so you dont know who is best player, he>qwerty ez to suport he can suport roam with every hero. U can check his games and u will see.

Have fun.
bewater fangay (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/saintsrow/images/5/53/DansGame.png/revision/latest?cb=20130820134712) (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/terraria/images/8/8c/Kappa_pride.png/revision/latest?cb=20150921174252&path-prefix=ru)


Is this a problem?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 29, 2016, 06:32
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.
hahahahahahahaha,even u are better than him,please,dun embarass urself anymore,we all know ure an egocentric,selfish kid with enough dota skill to rule la pubs,and it completely stops there.No offense to qwerty,hes a good guy,hes just playing with u,tryharding,buying mass obs and sentries when he plays with u,and trying out some team-good item/skill builds on heroes which should never do it in the course of an actual dota game.
You have absolutely no idea how good iplayqwerty is, you are simply at a far too bad level of play to see it. When you will improve, you will realize how good/bad some people actually are, at the moment you are clueless.

Really though, changing the map would really be a sad thing to do. 85 is truly awful compared to 83.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on April 29, 2016, 12:54
As soon as you put the "new" map, I'm afraid you're gonna lose the best player on your server.
like anybody gives a fuck about u,self-proclaimed idiot,uve been leaving this place for like past 3-4 years,why arent u gone already ?

ontopic:this version has been on la for quite some time,i think a change would be good,true,version 6.85 and onward are getting more and more LoL-like,but i rekon everybody is bored of 6.83 anyways,and yea,even in icefrogs version,there is a ton of bugs.
I wasn't even talking about myself, but thanks for the compliment. I'm a traveler, I don't play exclusively here.

I was talking about iplayqwerty. He's not gonna waste his time on the "new" map with you noobs, which means you will lose the best player on this server.

85 is the 3rd worst version to date, the 2nd worst is 86 and the absolute worst is 87.
hahahahahahahaha,even u are better than him,please,dun embarass urself anymore,we all know ure an egocentric,selfish kid with enough dota skill to rule la pubs,and it completely stops there.No offense to qwerty,hes a good guy,hes just playing with u,tryharding,buying mass obs and sentries when he plays with u,and trying out some team-good item/skill builds on heroes which should never do it in the course of an actual dota game.
You have absolutely no idea how good iplayqwerty is, you are simply at a far too bad level of play to see it. When you will improve, you will realize how good/bad some people actually are, at the moment you are clueless.

Really though, changing the map would really be a sad thing to do. 85 is truly awful compared to 83.
First of all,stop being pathetic in everything u say,ure looking braindamaged.
look here,ive got something to show u.
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5920094
just take a look at the chat of this game,and how much u flamed omni,telling him hes retarded,stupid,votekicking him etc.
and look here
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5921050
00:45   IbalGiN   [Allies]   kb decent player :)
00:53   CoMMoN   [Allies]   baksuz much better
49:21   CoMMoN   [Allies]   !unmuteall
49:24   CoMMoN   [All]   gg wp pink
49:30   CoMMoN   [All]   you're as good as i thought in the last 2 games
49:32   CoMMoN   [All]   :)
ure pathetic,these 2 games happened in a span of 2 days,if i were u,id stop trashtalking anyone here,kid.

As for .85 ,u maybe have played it in dota 2,but most of the people here havent,excluding me.The version is a lot better than .83,and everyone who plays dota 2 hates the sniper/troll/jug version,for those who dont know,the current one.
Go switch :D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: goblin on April 29, 2016, 13:59
Hahaha what a joke...Bashing pubers how they are low pubers on a pub forum and this is going on for years now ROFL

NPD-Narcistic personality dissorder(I am not sorry to inform you but you have all the 9 sympthons which is really rare for a person to have)

That being said the least skilled player of this forum is in a better place than you are,but you are the one who is preaching to others  :D

I could continue but do not wanna help you with your problems and do not wanna crush you to much so this should be enoguh.Do not even bother replaying just accpet it and stop hugging yourself.

cunt
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on April 29, 2016, 14:39
Hahaha what a joke...Bashing pubers how they are low pubers on a pub forum and this is going on for years now ROFL

NPD-Narcistic personality dissorder(I am not sorry to inform you but you have all the 9 sympthons which is really rare for a person to have)

That being said the least skilled player of this forum is in a better place than you are,but you are the one who is preaching to others  :D

I could continue but do not wanna help you with your problems and do not wanna crush you to much so this should be enoguh.Do not even bother replaying just accpet it and stop hugging yourself.

cunt

It's okay tho, he will say he is in top 10, spent 5+ years playing doto to earn 0$, so much investment. If he went to fucking dota 2 and joined an amateur team he would already be making a living lol even 1v5
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on April 29, 2016, 15:42
i vote for no..

but we rlly need new update.. alot bugs in dota..
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Nexxus on April 29, 2016, 15:58
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Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 29, 2016, 16:29
Whenever i feel stupid i come to this thread to feel better again
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on April 29, 2016, 18:20
I'm out.

(http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on April 29, 2016, 19:13
Hmmm very interesting.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Hagarath on April 29, 2016, 21:11
I agree we should use it.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on April 30, 2016, 09:24
Just new update will be enough.. ;)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 01, 2016, 13:36
I found another weird bug tho, sometimes blinking closer to your base might give you the fountain buff which gives you a fountain heal (mana & health). This happens rarely, I will try to find out how it happens, clearly it involves not teleporting to a lane.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Hagarath on May 01, 2016, 18:26
I found another weird bug tho, sometimes blinking closer to your base might give you the fountain buff which gives you a fountain heal (mana & health). This happens rarely, I will try to find out how it happens, clearly it involves not teleporting to a lane.

Woah. That is a good find, I appreciate the time you spend on findings bugs !
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 05, 2016, 22:15
I found another weird bug tho, sometimes blinking closer to your base might give you the fountain buff which gives you a fountain heal (mana & health). This happens rarely, I will try to find out how it happens, clearly it involves not teleporting to a lane.

Woah. That is a good find, I appreciate the time you spend on findings bugs !

I really wonder who are you, not sure if jeandarc or common1337 but we shall see. I think none of them are muted tho XD

༼つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIFF 6.85K ON LA
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Bart on May 06, 2016, 20:50
its on ss, we are testing it. if its good and we say yes, map will be everywhere
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: mrNiceguy on May 06, 2016, 22:00
Answer on the topic is:

Because copy is not original.

Peace
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on May 07, 2016, 00:42
like i say dota rlly need new update or fix little mistake and make game better.. i think when kurir bring items and if u are full u need to drop items to make what u wanna than u need to empty botle to take new runa at last fix lyca (if he is not fix) .. and more more mistake..  :)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on May 13, 2016, 00:23
It seems that we will most probably switch the map. DOes anyone know if it's possible to disable the zoom out command? Someone reported this to me.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on May 13, 2016, 00:26
It seems that we will most probably switch the map. DOes anyone know if it's possible to disable the zoom out command? Someone reported this to me.
if there is option to zoom out while playing the map, you should definitely not change it ...

in dota 2 the zoomout is considered a huge hack and is rewarded with a permanent dota2 account ban as far as i know
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 13, 2016, 01:03
Because the zooming out gives you great advantage.

Try playing with 21:9 screen.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on May 13, 2016, 09:57
Their justification does not really give me much confidence in this map...

http://d1stats.ru/faq/
Quote
    Camera distance is hack!

Changing camera distance allows to play comfortable for any player. Currently you can find dozen of hacks which allows to move camera freely. None of them can be detected anyhow - it's just player's perspective. This option put everybody in the same boat, not to speak of reducing hack's rarity (most of camera hack tools have maphack included).

We block all mh so... doesnt make any sense for xpam. If we are to use the map zoom must be disabled. If it can't be done with a game mode I'll have to block it at the bot level but that could be exploitable and would need code changes on the bot which I really don't like.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on May 13, 2016, 10:10
Their justification does not really give me much confidence in this map...

http://d1stats.ru/faq/
Quote
    Camera distance is hack!

Changing camera distance allows to play comfortable for any player. Currently you can find dozen of hacks which allows to move camera freely. None of them can be detected anyhow - it's just player's perspective. This option put everybody in the same boat, not to speak of reducing hack's rarity (most of camera hack tools have maphack included).

We block all mh so... If we are to use the map zoom must be disabled. If it can't be done with a game mode I'll have to block it at the bot level but that could be exploitable and would need code changes on the bot which I really don't like.
Yeah that paragraph says it all :D better to not put it for the ladder.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on May 13, 2016, 10:15
I opened a suggestion on their forum to make it optional, let's see how it goes. I don't have high hopes.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on May 13, 2016, 11:07
I dont understand why is the zoom thing so much of a problem,since there is 500-1000 people active here,and 90% would probably never even know about the zoom,and even those who do would have to make a habit of zooming it out every single game they play,and probably people will just forget.Anyway,we got this map on safelist,its got some bugs,but they arent as important as the ones in 6.83,and most of us agree to keep this map after 1-2 weeks of playing it,so,whats the holdup? :D
Zoom really isnt an issue in my opinion.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Hagarath on May 13, 2016, 11:55
It seems that we will most probably switch the map. DOes anyone know if it's possible to disable the zoom out command? Someone reported this to me.
if there is option to zoom out while playing the map, you should definitely not change it ...

in dota 2 the zoomout is considered a huge hack and is rewarded with a permanent dota2 account ban as far as i know

Zooming out will make everyone get advantages which i dislike. We should not use the map.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on May 13, 2016, 11:56
I dont understand why is the zoom thing so much of a problem,since there is 500-1000 people active here,and 90% would probably never even know about the zoom,and even those who do would have to make a habit of zooming it out every single game they play,and probably people will just forget.Anyway,we got this map on safelist,its got some bugs,but they arent as important as the ones in 6.83,and most of us agree to keep this map after 1-2 weeks of playing it,so,whats the holdup? :D
Zoom really isnt an issue in my opinion.
You are not qualified to determine if zoom is an issue or not, because you are a horrible player that doesn't understand how the game works.
I opened a suggestion on their forum to make it optional, let's see how it goes. I don't have high hopes.
Judging from the way that guy phrases his sentences, it's highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on May 13, 2016, 12:03
If I understand correctly it basically allows any playert to use -zm which we currently use for observers. If you ever used that you know that you can see much more terrain in that mode. Instant advantage to see heroes on your screen instead of minimap, Mirana arrows, hooks etc. It's not a rocket science why zoom has advantage.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on May 13, 2016, 12:52
I dont understand why is the zoom thing so much of a problem,since there is 500-1000 people active here,and 90% would probably never even know about the zoom,and even those who do would have to make a habit of zooming it out every single game they play,and probably people will just forget.Anyway,we got this map on safelist,its got some bugs,but they arent as important as the ones in 6.83,and most of us agree to keep this map after 1-2 weeks of playing it,so,whats the holdup? :D
Zoom really isnt an issue in my opinion.
With zooming out, you get the same advantage problem as in dota 2, which they still couldn't fix.
Check this picture to feel the difference between the monitor resolutions and the incredible amount of visible area on a 21:9 against 4:3.

(http://i.piccy.info/i9/3f42ebb4846fddd34735b57f12ef925e/1427876819/308662/877041/21_9.jpg)

Zooming out in dota1 baically do the same, or even more because it reveals map area in vertical direction as well.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 13, 2016, 14:35
As I told you in my previous post, try 21:9 display and you'll see it.
It ain't just DotA, any action game is better with 21:9 display (or several 4:3 or 16:9 displays).

As cen said, you have minimap but you don't see hooks, arrows or stealth enemies (in case of other games) there.

That solution, let everyone have the zooming option, is obviously nonsence; MH is commonly used, let's make a map w/o fog so it is fair for everyone.
Some players use that last hitting thingy (dream dota?), maybe everyone should use it so the game is fair.

Does this makes sence?
Few more hacks and you can just let server to calculate the outcome based on picks...
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on May 13, 2016, 15:13
Several players having the zoom option is called advantage over the others, but if everyone has the option to zoom in/out that is called equality.
The way -zoom option works is that it zooms out the map by making everything smaller (last hitting gets harder), just like the -zoom option thingy in Legion TD.
If there is a way to disable the zoom option then im up for it, but otherwise dont make such a big deal out of it. Every player will be able to zoom in/out so i dont see how someone will have an advantage over the other.
The way you are talking makes me wonder why warkeys are still allowed since someone that uses warkeys has a large advantage over the one that is not using them.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 13, 2016, 15:44
It seems that we will most probably switch the map. DOes anyone know if it's possible to disable the zoom out command? Someone reported this to me.

it was me who reported it, use -ap instead of -apzm, zm = zoom mode.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 13, 2016, 15:49
Oh and as for observers, the zoom goes as far as it can when you are an observer, i dont see a problem here, you can have a zoom option for observers this way.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 13, 2016, 16:05
Several players having the zoom option is called advantage over the others, but if everyone has the option to zoom in/out that is called equality.
The way -zoom option works is that it zooms out the map by making everything smaller (last hitting gets harder), just like the -zoom option thingy in Legion TD.
If there is a way to disable the zoom option then im up for it, but otherwise dont make such a big deal out of it. Every player will be able to zoom in/out so i dont see how someone will have an advantage over the other.
The way you are talking makes me wonder why warkeys are still allowed since someone that uses warkeys has a large advantage over the one that is not using them.
That's what I said.
You can't stop MHers, so give MH to everyone and the game will be fair.

Warkeys or hotkeys, on the other hand are actually available for everyone in default, you can edit them in the txt file in the game folder.
Even if you don't edit the file, you still have hotkeys available, unlike the zoom thing.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 13, 2016, 16:29
Several players having the zoom option is called advantage over the others, but if everyone has the option to zoom in/out that is called equality.
The way -zoom option works is that it zooms out the map by making everything smaller (last hitting gets harder), just like the -zoom option thingy in Legion TD.
If there is a way to disable the zoom option then im up for it, but otherwise dont make such a big deal out of it. Every player will be able to zoom in/out so i dont see how someone will have an advantage over the other.
The way you are talking makes me wonder why warkeys are still allowed since someone that uses warkeys has a large advantage over the one that is not using them.
That's what I said.
You can't stop MHers, so give MH to everyone and the game will be fair.

Warkeys or hotkeys, on the other hand are actually available for everyone in default, you can edit them in the txt file in the game folder.
Even if you don't edit the file, you still have hotkeys available, unlike the zoom thing.

Forget what I said, DracoLich is fucking horrible at english, -zm is actually only for observers which doesn't work, they can't -cam 1650 or even zoom from a circle cos they have no circle. The game fixes it's zoom automatically so if they want to get closer with the zoom they can control that part. Anyway, everyone having ZM shouldn't be a problem, it is like everyone having a 21:9 display.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on May 13, 2016, 20:57
Yes i know what a fucking zoom is,and how much it changes ur view,as jean said,its a disadvantage for the others if somebody is using it,but everybody has the option to use it here.Its quite hard to adapt to things like lasthitting,as everything becomes a lot smaller,unlike those different displays in dota 2,meanwhile clicking on heroes like slark,who have a tiny hero model would become almost impossible,since it was hard as it is.

ye komon sweet,why didnt u make such a response on the post where i showed how pathetic u are,oh wait,ure showing how pathetic u are with every single of ur posts here on la,right,ok.giff him psr pls

by the way cen,go to the safelist,since players there are considered to be better,and ask how many of them play zoomed out,and how many of them even know about zoom,ull see what im talking about,or just simply go play one dota game zoomed out,ull figure out how hard it is.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on May 13, 2016, 21:04
Yes i know what a fucking zoom is,and how much it changes ur view,as jean said,its a disadvantage for the others if somebody is using it,but everybody has the option to use-
THE GAME IS NOT FUCKING MEANT TO BE PLAYED THAT MUCH ZOOMED OUT
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
IT DOESNT MATTER EVERYONE HAS THE OPTION
ITS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME WITH THAT MUCH ZOOM OUT

holy SHIT u are so fucking stupid it's actually unreal
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 13, 2016, 21:26
tldr;

HAIL DOTADRENALINE 4 6.85K (http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=163925)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on May 13, 2016, 21:48
create an automatic cam locker using c++ so while the eurobattle.net client is used to launch wc3, users cant zoom from the circle or something like that?

Anyway, humans' brains don't work that way. Their eyes focus on one thing, lets say taking a last hit. They don't really see the other parts, even though they are unzoomed they just arent focused and wont notice anything. So they can still get rekt by an arrow/hook, unless they arent fully focusing on last hits. 2.This will be a problem if the enemy mid laners are noobs and dont use smoke. 3.if they are smoked u cant see the hook. 4. supports will notice you and will ping you, the same will happen with zm turned off so it wont fucking mattter, the mid laner in pro games/ss games isnt supposed to be looking and focusing on who is around him, the supports are supposed to warn him in case of a gank or something like that, if they are on that lane, otherwise its his job. i play on rgc and i know this hasnt caused a lot of things, in fact in the "ss" league we have there, none of the players use the option cos they are used to dota 2 options. also, it messes up last hitting.not to mention half of the players dont know they can zoom and most of them dont even know that there is a ping the courier option or other things in the circle ...

(http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on May 13, 2016, 22:09
I agree that once you enable it for everyone it's an even playing field but I guess it makes a big difference if someone zoomes on his 4:3 1024x768 or if I zoom on my 27" 1440p. W3 is already huge on my display so zooming out wouldn't hurt me nearly as much. :)


I'll try to do some test at different monitors and resolutions to see the differences.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 14, 2016, 00:16
I agree that once you enable it for everyone it's an even playing field but I guess it makes a big difference if someone zoomes on his 4:3 1024x768 or if I zoom on my 27" 1440p. W3 is already huge on my display so zooming out wouldn't hurt me nearly as much. :)


I'll try to do some test at different monitors and resolutions to see the differences.

Another problem is some would use it some wouldn't, only thing I don't get in RGC is why the fuck are all games -apzm or -rdzm, or even -cdzm, why use -zm if it is only for observers, when we usually don't have obs unless I am casting or trolling... ill ask cedric about this
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 14, 2016, 17:43
Anyway, humans' brains don't work that way. Their eyes focus on one thing, lets say taking a last hit. They don't really see the other parts, even though they are unzoomed they just arent focused and wont notice anything. So they can still get rekt by an arrow/hook, unless they arent fully focusing on last hits.
Um, seriously? Do you even human? Do you even eyes?

At this very moment I'm focusing on writing this message, yet I'm fully aware/can see that there's my gf right to me petting our cat.
I have open window by my left and I can see wind playing with curtain.
I can see all this while focusing on my screen, so please don't tell me I won't see 2 different things on the screen.

Periphetal vision, dude.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on May 14, 2016, 19:38
How can our eyes be real when mirrors are fake?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 14, 2016, 21:38
Anyway, humans' brains don't work that way. Their eyes focus on one thing, lets say taking a last hit. They don't really see the other parts, even though they are unzoomed they just arent focused and wont notice anything. So they can still get rekt by an arrow/hook, unless they arent fully focusing on last hits.
Um, seriously? Do you even human? Do you even eyes?

At this very moment I'm focusing on writing this message, yet I'm fully aware/can see that there's my gf right to me petting our cat.
I have open window by my left and I can see wind playing with curtain.
I can see all this while focusing on my screen, so please don't tell me I won't see 2 different things on the screen.

Periphetal vision, dude.

And on your vision, what is moving? You will notice the hook, when it gets closer, or if you see pudge's model then yes, you will notice it. im talking if you dont see pudges model which should be done by all pudge, when you hook someone, you dont go fucking next to them and hook them, u hook from fog = they cant see u.


u have no gf btw, 10/10 nice try m8.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 15, 2016, 01:27
Anyway, humans' brains don't work that way. Their eyes focus on one thing, lets say taking a last hit. They don't really see the other parts, even though they are unzoomed they just arent focused and wont notice anything. So they can still get rekt by an arrow/hook, unless they arent fully focusing on last hits.
Um, seriously? Do you even human? Do you even eyes?

At this very moment I'm focusing on writing this message, yet I'm fully aware/can see that there's my gf right to me petting our cat.
I have open window by my left and I can see wind playing with curtain.
I can see all this while focusing on my screen, so please don't tell me I won't see 2 different things on the screen.

Periphetal vision, dude.

And on your vision, what is moving? You will notice the hook, when it gets closer, or if you see pudge's model then yes, you will notice it. im talking if you dont see pudges model which should be done by all pudge, when you hook someone, you dont go fucking next to them and hook them, u hook from fog = they cant see u.


u have no gf btw, 10/10 nice try m8.
If anything moves in my sight, I can see it.

I have 24" screen, I'm sitting quite close to it. I can watch any spot and I will still notice anything new moving. In fact, I notice anything moving even around me (in my sight ofc, not behind me), not only on my screen.

As I talked about our cats, they like to jump to my table and sit next to my mouse. When playing, I can see my cats at the bottom of my table.

I don't know if your vision or eyes are fine, but normal human has quite a large angle of vision.
I never though I will ever argue about something like this, seriously.
When looking at your screen, do you see like 10 cm diametre circle and nothing else? Is this what are you trying to tell me?

My vision (and vision of normal human I dare to say) is described in the picture below.
(http://www.extron.com/img/mktg/environconhumanfact_fig2_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on May 15, 2016, 02:28
Anyway, humans' brains don't work that way. Their eyes focus on one thing, lets say taking a last hit. They don't really see the other parts, even though they are unzoomed they just arent focused and wont notice anything. So they can still get rekt by an arrow/hook, unless they arent fully focusing on last hits.
Um, seriously? Do you even human? Do you even eyes?

At this very moment I'm focusing on writing this message, yet I'm fully aware/can see that there's my gf right to me petting our cat.
I have open window by my left and I can see wind playing with curtain.
I can see all this while focusing on my screen, so please don't tell me I won't see 2 different things on the screen.

Periphetal vision, dude.

And on your vision, what is moving? You will notice the hook, when it gets closer, or if you see pudge's model then yes, you will notice it. im talking if you dont see pudges model which should be done by all pudge, when you hook someone, you dont go fucking next to them and hook them, u hook from fog = they cant see u.


u have no gf btw, 10/10 nice try m8.
If anything moves in my sight, I can see it.

I have 24" screen, I'm sitting quite close to it. I can watch any spot and I will still notice anything new moving. In fact, I notice anything moving even around me (in my sight ofc, not behind me), not only on my screen.

As I talked about our cats, they like to jump to my table and sit next to my mouse. When playing, I can see my cats at the bottom of my table.

I don't know if your vision or eyes are fine, but normal human has quite a large angle of vision.
I never though I will ever argue about something like this, seriously.
When looking at your screen, do you see like 10 cm diametre circle and nothing else? Is this what are you trying to tell me?

My vision (and vision of normal human I dare to say) is described in the picture below.
(http://www.extron.com/img/mktg/environconhumanfact_fig2_3.jpg)
I have tunnel vision, and I find it offensive. (http://www.cursor.cc/cursor/53/34/cursor.png)

!banned for 1 week (insulting moderator) :P
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on May 15, 2016, 11:44
Well that's another story. I mean you can't see behind you, or else you are a mutant :D What you talk about is the brain's associative skill, which conclude that someone is behind you -for example- by sounds and noises, shadows whatever. You actually don't see it, and what you draw on the picture is 100% not possible, to see the direction of the line nr2 you should see throught your skull and eyelids' sides etc, so it's "physically blocked" to see that range. But in this case, the indirect, associated things are irrelevant I think cause your source of information is in front of you, on the monitor, no indirect informations like surrounding sound etc.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 15, 2016, 15:11
What an amazing place with different ppl this is!

One guy can't see what is actually in front of him and other one can see what's behind him ;D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on May 15, 2016, 18:06
I still dont understand how this discussion changed from talking about some dota map into how wide can our eyes see, fuck this im out.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on May 15, 2016, 19:50
What an amazing place with different ppl this is!

One guy can't see what is actually in front of him and other one can see what's behind him ;D
We are the legends of tomorrow... Heroes of the lagabuse universe... Members from the league  of eurobattle assassins...
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on May 16, 2016, 13:40
Zoom is advantage for sure, specially for ones with bigger screens. Disable it if possible, make camera as in previous versions.

Also, the fact that ''everyone has it'' is pointless, let's all have maphack then, eh?

Apart from this problem, everything else seems fine. We've been using this map at SS for a while, most people like it.

And btw

Answer on the topic is:

Because copy is not original.

Peace

Rofl

luckily noone cares about your opinion
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on May 16, 2016, 16:13
Zoom is advantage for sure, specially for ones with bigger screens. Disable it if possible, make camera as in previous versions.

Also, the fact that ''everyone has it'' is pointless, let's all have maphack then, eh?

Apart from this problem, everything else seems fine. We've been using this map at SS for a while, most people like it.

And btw

Answer on the topic is:

Because copy is not original.

Peace

Rofl

luckily noone cares about your opinion
(https://media.giphy.com/media/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/giphy.gif)
Finally someone who understands things same as I do.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on May 22, 2016, 14:02
I think it is time to necro this thread.

Necroes thread.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Bart on May 28, 2016, 17:32
pit lord
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on June 30, 2016, 22:22
So ???
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on June 30, 2016, 22:39
Kids in africa have nothing to eat or drink and here you are arguing about some imaginary fictional computer game.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on June 30, 2016, 22:39
https://gfycat.com/TemptingHeavyIguanodon
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on June 30, 2016, 22:46
Kids in africa have nothing to eat or drink and here you are arguing about some imaginary fictional computer game.

Fu jean, u are getting bored with these kids. What have u done for them ? Stfu already...
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on June 30, 2016, 23:47
Kids in africa have nothing to eat or drink and here you are arguing about some imaginary fictional computer game.

Fu jean, u are getting bored with these kids. What have u done for them ? Stfu already...


I have prayed for them every day.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on June 30, 2016, 23:58
I forgot to mention i also like + comment + share every time i see an african kid's photo on facebook cuz it sends them food, water and money ($1 like, $3 comment, $5 share). So be careful next time before you come to false concusions.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cyb on July 01, 2016, 06:37
Old school rulez ! :)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on July 10, 2016, 17:38
I think we might wait for 6.86 release which seems imminent: http://forum.d1stats.ru/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=241&start=20

Decisions decisions.. but then again, maybe the new version will be full of bugs on release date.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on July 10, 2016, 19:20
I think we might wait for 6.86 release which seems imminent: http://forum.d1stats.ru/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=241&start=20

Decisions decisions.. but then again, maybe the new version will be full of bugs on release date.

I read some comments and Draco said that 6.86 ( all bugs fixed ) will be relased next year. Till then pls swith it to 6.85, cuz 6.83 is way to old and it is so borring to play anymore.

Check this video. Its so cool.

https://youtu.be/MVGtyPcuAKo
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 10, 2016, 21:51
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Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 10, 2016, 21:51
I think we might wait for 6.86 release which seems imminent: http://forum.d1stats.ru/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=241&start=20

Decisions decisions.. but then again, maybe the new version will be full of bugs on release date.

I read some comments and Draco said that 6.86 ( all bugs fixed ) will be relased next year. Till then pls swith it to 6.85, cuz 6.83 is way to old and it is so borring to play anymore.



https://youtu.be/MVGtyPcuAKo

so nice update.. that is all what we need in this update..  :)
Check this video. Its so cool.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 10, 2016, 23:21
Why arent we using valve dota 6.88 ?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 11, 2016, 00:00
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on July 11, 2016, 00:12
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?

Cuz my pc is fucking low piece of shit :)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: _xpam_ on July 11, 2016, 00:13
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?
cuz  It does not enjoy the same
forever d1
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 11, 2016, 01:36
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?

Cuz my pc is fucking low piece of shit :)
What the hell does this mean? Just by checking the sys requirements of D2, you can run it on 10 years old PC.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Blast on July 11, 2016, 01:58
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?

Cuz my pc is fucking low piece of shit :)
What the hell does this mean? Just by checking the sys requirements of D2, you can run it on 10 years old PC.
OS: Windows 7.
Processor: Dual core from Intel or AMD at 2.8 GHz.
Memory: 4 GB RAM.
Graphics: nVidia GeForce 8600/9600GT, ATI/AMD Radeon HD2600/3600.
DirectX: Version 9.0c.
Network: Broadband Internet connection.
Hard Drive: 8 GB available space.
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible.

Ye ofc on my 1gb ram shit PC xD btw i think this is minimum sys req.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: echelle on July 11, 2016, 10:32
Can you make the switch already?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 11, 2016, 10:58
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?

Cuz my pc is fucking low piece of shit :)
What the hell does this mean? Just by checking the sys requirements of D2, you can run it on 10 years old PC.
OS: Windows 7.
Processor: Dual core from Intel or AMD at 2.8 GHz.
Memory: 4 GB RAM.
Graphics: nVidia GeForce 8600/9600GT, ATI/AMD Radeon HD2600/3600.
DirectX: Version 9.0c.
Network: Broadband Internet connection.
Hard Drive: 8 GB available space.
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible.

Ye ofc on my 1gb ram shit PC xD btw i think this is minimum sys req.
Omg ppl, what kind of machines do you own? ;D

You know, you can get a decent PC for few euros. I believe you woundn't even need GFX card, Intel HD graphics should be able to run D2 :D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 11, 2016, 12:39
Great :)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 11, 2016, 13:08
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?

Cuz my pc is fucking low piece of shit :)
What the hell does this mean? Just by checking the sys requirements of D2, you can run it on 10 years old PC.
OS: Windows 7.
Processor: Dual core from Intel or AMD at 2.8 GHz.
Memory: 4 GB RAM.
Graphics: nVidia GeForce 8600/9600GT, ATI/AMD Radeon HD2600/3600.
DirectX: Version 9.0c.
Network: Broadband Internet connection.
Hard Drive: 8 GB available space.
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible.

Ye ofc on my 1gb ram shit PC xD btw i think this is minimum sys req.
Omg ppl, what kind of machines do you own? ;D

You know, you can get a decent PC for few euros. I believe you woundn't even need GFX card, Intel HD graphics should be able to run D2 :D
here in bosnia,a pc thats able to run dota 2 costs at least 500 euros,and average monthly payment here is about 250 euros,so u can just imagine that its not easy to give away all that money for a pc/laptop
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 11, 2016, 14:01
If that is true, that is really fucked up.

I used to work for more than 500 euros/month and it was a low wage. At least for the stuff I've been doing.

If your wages are these low but PCs are this expensive, then there's something wrong...

Then, if you can, look for old, used PCs. Big companies often buy new PCs/laptops and they need to get rid of the old ones.
They don't sell them individualy (usually) but there are lot of shops with used computers.

For example, I own an old HP Compaq 7900 SFF computer. It is available for 85 - 90 euros.
For this PC i bought brand new nVidia GTX 750 (needed low format version as the PC is Small Form Factor), this card is available from 120 euros or 105 euros in case of normal format.

Its not a super computer but I've been playing DotA 2 or Diablo 3 on it.
My friend, who got exactly the same PC played GTA 5 on it. I don't know about level of details but it wasn't looking bad at all and was smooth.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 11, 2016, 14:01
Why aren't you playing DotA 2?

Cuz my pc is fucking low piece of shit :)


Just like you :))))))))
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 11, 2016, 14:27
If that is true, that is really fucked up.

I used to work for more than 500 euros/month and it was a low wage. At least for the stuff I've been doing.

If your wages are these low but PCs are this expensive, then there's something wrong...

Then, if you can, look for old, used PCs. Big companies often buy new PCs/laptops and they need to get rid of the old ones.
They don't sell them individualy (usually) but there are lot of shops with used computers.

For example, I own an old HP Compaq 7900 SFF computer. It is available for 85 - 90 euros.
For this PC i bought brand new nVidia GTX 750 (needed low format version as the PC is Small Form Factor), this card is available from 120 euros or 105 euros in case of normal format.

Its not a super computer but I've been playing DotA 2 or Diablo 3 on it.
My friend, who got exactly the same PC played GTA 5 on it. I don't know about level of details but it wasn't looking bad at all and was smooth.
Even buying used pcs/laptops that satisfy the minimum sys req for dota 2 costs 150-250 €,and i highly doubt itd be running at a playable fps,even with settings down to minimum.
Yep,its fucked up.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 11, 2016, 14:43
If that is true, that is really fucked up.

I used to work for more than 500 euros/month and it was a low wage. At least for the stuff I've been doing.

If your wages are these low but PCs are this expensive, then there's something wrong...

Then, if you can, look for old, used PCs. Big companies often buy new PCs/laptops and they need to get rid of the old ones.
They don't sell them individualy (usually) but there are lot of shops with used computers.

For example, I own an old HP Compaq 7900 SFF computer. It is available for 85 - 90 euros.
For this PC i bought brand new nVidia GTX 750 (needed low format version as the PC is Small Form Factor), this card is available from 120 euros or 105 euros in case of normal format.

Its not a super computer but I've been playing DotA 2 or Diablo 3 on it.
My friend, who got exactly the same PC played GTA 5 on it. I don't know about level of details but it wasn't looking bad at all and was smooth.
Even buying used pcs/laptops that satisfy the minimum sys req for dota 2 costs 150-250 €,and i highly doubt itd be running at a playable fps,even with settings down to minimum.
Yep,its fucked up.

ne nerviraj se deki :))))
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on July 11, 2016, 14:52
Kids in africa have nothing to eat or drink and you want to buy a new pc to play some virtual imaginary video game.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 11, 2016, 15:26
hehehehe :D ;D
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 11, 2016, 17:20
If that is true, that is really fucked up.

I used to work for more than 500 euros/month and it was a low wage. At least for the stuff I've been doing.

If your wages are these low but PCs are this expensive, then there's something wrong...

Then, if you can, look for old, used PCs. Big companies often buy new PCs/laptops and they need to get rid of the old ones.
They don't sell them individualy (usually) but there are lot of shops with used computers.

For example, I own an old HP Compaq 7900 SFF computer. It is available for 85 - 90 euros.
For this PC i bought brand new nVidia GTX 750 (needed low format version as the PC is Small Form Factor), this card is available from 120 euros or 105 euros in case of normal format.

Its not a super computer but I've been playing DotA 2 or Diablo 3 on it.
My friend, who got exactly the same PC played GTA 5 on it. I don't know about level of details but it wasn't looking bad at all and was smooth.
Even buying used pcs/laptops that satisfy the minimum sys req for dota 2 costs 150-250 €,and i highly doubt itd be running at a playable fps,even with settings down to minimum.
Yep,its fucked up.
The one I'm talking about is about 200 euros.
Let me connect it, update DotA 2 and I'll check what settings it can run.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 11, 2016, 18:08
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on July 11, 2016, 19:54
Kids in africa have nothing to eat or drink and you want to buy a new pc to play some virtual imaginary video game.
This post gave me:
Acid Reflux Disease (GERD)
Acne
Allergies
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADHD/ADD)
Altitude Sickness
Alzheimer's Disease
Andropause
Anorexia Nervosa
Arthritis
Aspergers Syndrome
Asthma
Autism
Back Pain
Bad Breath (Halitosis)
Baldness
Bedwetting
Bipolar Disorder (BD)
Bladder Cancer
Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD)
Bone Cancer
Brain Cancer
Breast Cancer
Brain Tumors
Brain Injury
Bronchitis
Burns
Bursitis
Cancer
Canker Sores (Cold Sores)
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (CTS)
Celiac Disease
Cervical Cancer
Cholesterol
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD)
Colon Cancer
Congestive Heart Failure (CHF)
Cradle Cap
Crohn's Disease
Dandruff
Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT)
Dehydration
Depression
Diabetes
Diaper Rash
Diarrhea
Disabilities
Diverticulitis
Down Syndrome
Drug Abuse
Dysfunctional Uterine Bleeding (DUB)
Dyslexia
Ear Infections
Ear Problems
Eating Disorders
Eczema
Endometriosis
Enlarged Prostate
Erectile Dysfunction (ED)

Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on July 11, 2016, 21:28
Kids in africa have nothing to eat or drink and you want to buy a new pc to play some virtual imaginary video game.
This post gave me:
Acid Reflux Disease (GERD)
Acne
Allergies
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADHD/ADD)
Altitude Sickness
Alzheimer's Disease
Andropause
Anorexia Nervosa
Arthritis
Aspergers Syndrome
Asthma
Autism
Back Pain
Bad Breath (Halitosis)
Baldness
Bedwetting
Bipolar Disorder (BD)
Bladder Cancer
Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD)
Bone Cancer
Brain Cancer
Breast Cancer
Brain Tumors
Brain Injury
Bronchitis
Burns
Bursitis
Cancer
Canker Sores (Cold Sores)
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (CTS)
Celiac Disease
Cervical Cancer
Cholesterol
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD)
Colon Cancer
Congestive Heart Failure (CHF)
Cradle Cap
Crohn's Disease
Dandruff
Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT)
Dehydration
Depression
Diabetes
Diaper Rash
Diarrhea
Disabilities
Diverticulitis
Down Syndrome
Drug Abuse
Dysfunctional Uterine Bleeding (DUB)
Dyslexia
Ear Infections
Ear Problems
Eating Disorders
Eczema
Endometriosis
Enlarged Prostate
Erectile Dysfunction (ED)
rip
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 11, 2016, 23:17
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)
I had A brand new laptop which did satisfy the dota2 reqs, played it for about 7-8 months, and it resulted In my motherboard popping two times In that period,it got completely fucked up,and i had to come back here.Settings i used were similar to those from the last ss.

Btw, i think jumping straight to 6.86 is too much,too many new items and hero changes + the possibility Of bugs as well as the time when 6.86 is scheduled to be released.in my opinion,going with already approved 6.85 version is the way to go,starting with the New season.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 12, 2016, 03:32
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)


No toss on lvl 1 . Ok..............
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Blast on July 12, 2016, 03:37
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)


No toss on lvl 1 . Ok..............

4 man stun GG
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 12, 2016, 11:03
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)


No toss on lvl 1 . Ok..............

4 man stun GG

Im sure he gived them fb there.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 12, 2016, 12:05
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)


No toss on lvl 1 . Ok..............

4 man stun GG

Im sure he gived them fb there.
That was a game vs bots. I just needed to take a ss with some action to see if there's fps drop.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 12, 2016, 12:55
I'm back!

So I've been playing DotA 2 at max settings all the time I was using my HP Compaq 7900 SFF. I don't remember having any HW related spikes or FPS drops.

Here are some pictures (I haven't connected it to my monitor so resolution is only 1600x900.

I'm sorry there's some quality drop in the pictures, probably due to the format I saved the pictures in.

(http://i.imgur.com/q66W8Q6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vy2eqcB.jpg)

And for comparison picture of the game with lowered settings.

(http://i.imgur.com/P53Dt5H.png)
The settings that are off are:
Addition light rendering
Ambient Cloth Simulation
Smoothing
Bloom effect for reflection and...(light? lighting? I dunno)
High quality water
V-sync
And ofc lowered quality of textures and shadows to medium.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFq3nL.jpg)


No toss on lvl 1 . Ok..............

4 man stun GG

Im sure he gived them fb there.
That was a game vs bots. I just needed to take a ss with some action to see if there's fps drop.

Ahh sorry , my bad.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on July 13, 2016, 09:36
dying to bots lolz
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: _xpam_ on July 13, 2016, 12:03
dying to bots lolz
you said many times but bot still alive
forever D1
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 13, 2016, 12:14
(http://www.desktopimages.org/pictures/2013/1104/1/keep-calm-and-play-dota-images-372016.jpg)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on July 13, 2016, 17:43
u gays should definitely get a life
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 13, 2016, 17:48
u gays should definitely get a life
coming from a polak playing dota2,does it even get worse than that ? ah,i guess it does,there are russians,they are good competition for ya  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on July 13, 2016, 18:49
russians are better than you for sure
dying to bots lolz
you said many times but bot still alive
forever D1
how is it possible for anyone to misunderstand this so badly
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on July 13, 2016, 19:11
russians are better than you for sure
dying to bots lolz
you said many times but bot still alive
forever D1
how is it possible for anyone to misunderstand this so badly
I was wondering about the same.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ^^ on July 16, 2016, 15:31
but back 8.63 please is not good 8.65 (MORE LAG & IS NOT A GOOD MAP WTF)


GO GO 8.63 !!
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: North_Legionare on July 16, 2016, 16:55
but back 8.63 please is not good 8.65 (MORE LAG & IS NOT A GOOD MAP WTF)


GO GO 8.63 !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJGbuTa5TY
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 16, 2016, 16:59
but back 8.63 please is not good 8.65 (MORE LAG & IS NOT A GOOD MAP WTF)
Having a lag caused by a given map seems weird to me...

Also, what exactly do you mean by "IS NOT A GOOD MAP"?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Asandir on July 16, 2016, 17:33
but back 8.63 please is not good 8.65 (MORE LAG & IS NOT A GOOD MAP WTF)


GO GO 8.63 !!

Yeah, give 8.63 already! Why are we still playing 6.85 ???????
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on July 16, 2016, 19:35
MORE LAG & IS NOT A GOOD MAP WTF
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: beastiary on July 16, 2016, 19:48
rip doto
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: _xpam_ on July 16, 2016, 21:21
gold is coming so fast it like em mode map is shit
we need to change it >:(
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Hightler on July 17, 2016, 03:10
I just registered to reply to this guys,
you should seriously think of going back to 6.83 cause this map is ruining lagabuse comunity,
at least like 50% players i saw last two days are just cursing and threatening to leave to different platforms where is 6.83 still playin .. please reconsider this new map and maybe just give us chance to play both maps? and you will see which one is played more often .. thanks Hightler
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 17, 2016, 05:13
gold is coming so fast it like em mode map is shit
we need to change it >:(
Shot the fok up,this map Is way better than any of the last few icefrogs attempts Of A stable version.Each and single one Of them had at least 1 major bug. Dracolich put In A lot Of effort to make the map better, and all u pussies are doing Is cry over A map that uve played for the past 2 fucking years. Yes,the new map itself is a little bit different compared to icefrogs failed versions, but its A lot better and way more interesting to play. Give the map some time before judging it, try out the New items, check the patch notes to see which heroes got buffed and play the fucking game,it is still dota1,with some nice improvements. Also,ignore retos like jean,he never said one useful or at least relevant sentence In his entire life.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 17, 2016, 09:31
gold is coming so fast it like em mode map is shit
we need to change it >:(
Shot the fok up,this map Is way better than any of the last few icefrogs attempts Of A stable version.Each and single one Of them had at least 1 major bug. Dracolich put In A lot Of effort to make the map better, and all u pussies are doing Is cry over A map that uve played for the past 2 fucking years. Yes,the new map itself is a little bit different compared to icefrogs failed versions, but its A lot better and way more interesting to play. Give the map some time before judging it, try out the New items, check the patch notes to see which heroes got buffed and play the fucking game,it is still dota1,with some nice improvements. Also,ignore retos like jean,he never said one useful or at least relevant sentence In his entire life.

++++
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Shadow on July 17, 2016, 10:40
After 4 games played i started to like this new map. But I have the feeling that there are much more creeps in waves than in previous map. But I think this is thing that is easy to get used to. Some effects added, like effect during healing by tango or many more, those are little improvements...conclusion: i personally dont care which map will be played  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 17, 2016, 12:51
this update is all what we need..  :)
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on July 17, 2016, 12:59
I will repeat here just in case someone missed it: we will use whatever map players want. If there will be too much complaints about the new map we will create a new poll. But so far I didn't see much negative reactions, I played 5 games this weekend. I've seen more positive ones.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on July 17, 2016, 18:35
I will repeat here just in case someone missed it: we will use whatever map players want. If there will be too much complaints about the new map we will create a new poll. But so far I didn't see much negative reactions, I played 5 games this weekend. I've seen more positive ones.

Stop abusing your white male privileges.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: LexMonster on July 18, 2016, 07:00
The new map is ... different. Not bad, not good, just different.
Leveling is quite more slower in this new map, its like you get 30% less XP than in IceFrog's map. Its a bit strange, but its something I (we) can adopt to, get used to it.
 
Btw, what the hell is going on with buying items with team mate's courier, items are left in circle even tho courier is at fountain and has empty slots. And then I buy items twice.. In old map, items would be 'on top of' the circle, but in this new, items are 'inside' the circle and you cant see them if you dont click on circle. It happened 5-6 times in 3 games I played so far, and it was quite frustrating. Guess I ll have to be more careful

Besides that, everything was fine, no bugs at sight.

P.S I hope new items wont make a mess and imbalance the map  :)
 
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: xBytez on July 18, 2016, 09:02
This new map is stupid and bad. 2x the same shop?? why.. and this bugs:
Bug 1. - When you buy dagger, and use it from fountain to anywhere else, everytime when you use again dagger, you have fountain heal and you have free +200-300 HP and mana.

Bug 2. - When you buy gem and lost it, you still have eye.

 This retarded map is from dota2 game... Please, please, please, get back 6.83d. Fast..
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: nenad3 on July 18, 2016, 12:02
I aggre this map is bullshit, even Russian player on ICCup not play this shit verzion.

Bugs

1) Treant Protector ulti is bugged, sometime, actually very often ulti only catch you for 1 or 2 second not 4,5....also sometimes with skepter  when u upgrade ulti, and put eyes over creep camp, ulti no affect creeps, or caught them, but not doing damage.

Towers and bulindgs are like in EM,  you can destroy it very quicikly..... and when I casting Living Armor with Roof for exmple if tower has a 50% hp, I need to cast Living Armor almost 20 fucking times to heal full hp, and also it does not blocking damage.

If they try to copy dota 2 shits....they need to it right...
Roof ulti upgrade, everyone can see ulti eyes it's not even eyes, ok... but in D2 u can't see radius of Rooff ulti, for that u need gem or ward, but here u dont need, and eveyone can easy find and destroy eyes, also, animation of roof ulti is horrible, it's like a web from broodmother...

Back old normal map.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on July 18, 2016, 13:33
i dunno what else u kids expected from this map when u said u want it
u rly thought some random kid is gonna make it bug free ?
lol
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 18, 2016, 14:46
This new map is stupid and bad. 2x the same shop?? why.. and this bugs:
Bug 1. - When you buy dagger, and use it from fountain to anywhere else, everytime when you use again dagger, you have fountain heal and you have free +200-300 HP and mana.

Bug 2. - When you buy gem and lost it, you still have eye.

 This retarded map is from dota2 game... Please, please, please, get back 6.83d. Fast..
i was aware of the gem bug,but it isnt THAT important,and u dont always have the perma truesight after u drop it.It happens sometimes,sometimes it doesnt
About the blink bug,i havent seen that,never got used to double tapping the blink,and it doesnt matter anyways,if ure out of the laning stage,and since blink is 2250 gold,u are gonna be out of the lane.Ill check that next time i play,havent seen anything like that so far.
Its funny cuz ure talking about bugs,and icefrogs version had a shitload of bugs which everyone was fine with for some reason.Lycan was unplayable,Roof was almost unplayable,not to mention other gameplay bugs and the 2 fucking years that uve played only this map nonstop,how none of u people got bored ?
I aggre this map is bullshit, even Russian player on ICCup not play this shit verzion.

Bugs

1) Treant Protector ulti is bugged, sometime, actually very often ulti only catch you for 1 or 2 second not 4,5....also sometimes with skepter  when u upgrade ulti, and put eyes over creep camp, ulti no affect creeps, or caught them, but not doing damage.

Towers and bulindgs are like in EM,  you can destroy it very quicikly..... and when I casting Living Armor with Roof for exmple if tower has a 50% hp, I need to cast Living Armor almost 20 fucking times to heal full hp, and also it does not blocking damage.

If they try to copy dota 2 shits....they need to it right...
Roof ulti upgrade, everyone can see ulti eyes it's not even eyes, ok... but in D2 u can't see radius of Rooff ulti, for that u need gem or ward, but here u dont need, and eveyone can easy find and destroy eyes, also, animation of roof ulti is horrible, it's like a web from broodmother...

Back old normal map.
His ulti was bugged from always...
this.
wait,ure crying for the old version over a hero which was bugged ever since he got the aghs upgrade ?
Also,theres this thing called quelling blade,worth 225 gold,and then u got ur 4200 aghs roof,which gives u a 25 sec ability which can be EASILY countered by a 5 sec cd on the qb.Why the fuck would u even buy aghs in the first place ?
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on July 18, 2016, 15:04
Trol trying to protect this map just like a hooker saying shes a virgin, go fuck yourself trol.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 18, 2016, 15:18
told you vote NO but u guys make fake forum accs and voted yes, nvm, giff us 6.88 so we can play with new items and modern dota.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on July 18, 2016, 16:19
i told u 85 was bad, but you were like "no no, let's go 85 lolz"
enjoy
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: nenad3 on July 18, 2016, 16:58
Ultimate Trol, you talk nonsense, first of all, no one here speak about Roof ulti is it good for teamfight  or whether it is worth giving so much gold for agah. We talk about BUG, not tactic and others.... ok tell me what is Roff bug in version 6.83 I am just today download icc luncher swich to 1.26a version and played two games with Roof( http://iccup.com/dota/gamingprofile/Nenad.html ), no bug, everything is ok, absolutly Roof is playable hero, like here before you swtich to this new crap shit, and I do not think to come back until you retrun 6.83 and I hope others people also will leav, anywhy u have to wait now 20 minuts for people to start a game, it's all because new version.

Things I dont' understand is that Iccup is actually russian platform, dracolich is russian guy and it was russian dota map, but they did not update to his version, why??? because they know that it's verzion is shit and bugged.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 18, 2016, 17:47
Feel free to read about the Roof bug here:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=173405.0
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: jeandarc on July 18, 2016, 18:23
Omg that guy just roasted trol so hard
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: beastiary on July 18, 2016, 18:28
Omg that guy just roasted trol so hard
trol was obviously high when he wrote his post
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: UltimateTroll on July 18, 2016, 18:42
Ultimate Trol, you talk nonsense, first of all, no one here speak about Roof ulti is it good for teamfight  or whether it is worth giving so much gold for agah. We talk about BUG, not tactic and others.... ok tell me what is Roff bug in version 6.83 I am just today download icc luncher swich to 1.26a version and played two games with Roof( http://iccup.com/dota/gamingprofile/Nenad.html ), no bug, everything is ok, absolutly Roof is playable hero, like here before you swtich to this new crap shit, and I do not think to come back until you retrun 6.83 and I hope others people also will leav, anywhy u have to wait now 20 minuts for people to start a game, it's all because new version.

Things I dont' understand is that Iccup is actually russian platform, dracolich is russian guy and it was russian dota map, but they did not update to his version, why??? because they know that it's verzion is shit and bugged.
Learn some proper english, maybe ull understand dota too.Read this.
Feel free to read about the Roof bug here:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=173405.0
Thanks asta,ure one of the few guys whos actually doing something here
Jean idi hvataj pokemone glupane, za boljeg svejedno nisi
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Astaroth on July 18, 2016, 18:46
Also, I had to do some research.
Since the new map is used as a ladder map, there were like 900 - 950 DotA games played on 6.85k map.

Few were some 6.78 AI, but not a single 6.83.

So if the map is so bad and players are so unhappy with it, why they still play it? You can host a game with the old map.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: buldozer on July 18, 2016, 19:45
jeanmon baca ulti na trolamona iiii? uskace qwertymon ali tu je musimon i spasava trolamona dok mapexmon dolece sa vatrenom pticom iii ? coming soon.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on July 18, 2016, 22:16
I suggest you report the bugs on their forums and hopefully they get fixed in 86 if they're not already (85 was released last year..). If this map has more bugs than official I'll switch it right back with no problem. Right now I want to leave it out there for a few weeks to collect more information and then decide.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: nenad3 on July 18, 2016, 22:56
Astaroth and Troll(i am not native eng. speaker and I did not learn eng)
Dota 6.83 is not bugged verzion, only one bug exist with Lycan and it's very rare
I today played 2 games with roof on icc platform and everthing is ok u can use, arcane and travel boots, hex etc..normal.
only problem here is because new patach 1.27 that version of war3 is not designed for D83, because there is bugs with roof but it's still playable
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on August 16, 2016, 16:47
5k views, 16 pages when I posted this I expected it to get locked rofl XD
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Tyrande on August 16, 2016, 17:15

It's time to go back on 6.83 map! Who like 6.85 can simply play DotA 2.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: cen on August 16, 2016, 23:59
It seems development on d1stats is super slow. In few months it will be a year since this release came out and no signs of .86 coming out. At this point I'm getting skeptical this map will be a viable option for the future. It'd be fine with a few bugfix releases every few months but there is nothing coming out since december.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: AGENT on August 17, 2016, 01:31
In this game, twin ( me ) is able to attack/denie, teammates even if they are full hp :D Is it bug or what ? :D
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5957696
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on August 17, 2016, 02:44
It seems development on d1stats is super slow. In few months it will be a year since this release came out and no signs of .86 coming out. At this point I'm getting skeptical this map will be a viable option for the future. It'd be fine with a few bugfix releases every few months but there is nothing coming out since december.

They are working on 6.86 oh wait look, 6.87 is out, time to scrap 6.85 oh hey look now 6.88 :/
The problem is its just a few of them + barely any donations, they are doing it in their free time, it will be out sooner or later, void wont be fully just like dota 2 cos time dilation is a fucking beast to code on JASS + on d1stats he gave us a link of his stream, if i find it i will post it, you can see him code stuff in the wc3 editor + test it live
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on August 17, 2016, 05:36
6.89 was announced to be released in dota 2 on 23.08.2019, with it pitlord too, but more importantly, 6.89, new patch yet again

meanwhile you are at full of bugs 85
just look at this lol
In this game, twin ( me ) is able to attack/denie, teammates even if they are full hp :D Is it bug or what ? :D
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5957696
cen you should just go back to 83 and enjoy a stable official version with few bugs, mby you'll get some players back, like iplayqwerty for example stopped playing here cuz u updated to 85, he will probably play again if u put 83 and probably others with him too
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: beastiary on August 17, 2016, 07:27
6.89 was announced to be released in dota 2 on 23.08.2019, with it pitlord too, but more importantly, 6.89, new patch yet again

meanwhile you are at full of bugs 85
just look at this lol
In this game, twin ( me ) is able to attack/denie, teammates even if they are full hp :D Is it bug or what ? :D
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5957696
cen you should just go back to 83 and enjoy a stable official version with few bugs, mby you'll get some players back, like iplayqwerty for example stopped playing here cuz u updated to 85, he will probably play again if u put 83 and probably others with him too

no once you goblak you never go back, if you switch back like 5% will come back, but another 20% will leave, switching forward and back is the most retarded thing to do, trust me i saw it once
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Lagi on August 17, 2016, 10:21
6.89 was announced to be released in dota 2 on 23.08.2019, with it pitlord too, but more importantly, 6.89, new patch yet again

meanwhile you are at full of bugs 85
just look at this lol
In this game, twin ( me ) is able to attack/denie, teammates even if they are full hp :D Is it bug or what ? :D
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5957696
cen you should just go back to 83 and enjoy a stable official version with few bugs, mby you'll get some players back, like iplayqwerty for example stopped playing here cuz u updated to 85, he will probably play again if u put 83 and probably others with him too
:P That long wait to finally release pitlord, made me feel as this mistype haha
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on August 17, 2016, 10:52
6.89 was announced to be released in dota 2 on 23.08.2019, with it pitlord too, but more importantly, 6.89, new patch yet again

meanwhile you are at full of bugs 85
just look at this lol
In this game, twin ( me ) is able to attack/denie, teammates even if they are full hp :D Is it bug or what ? :D
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5957696
cen you should just go back to 83 and enjoy a stable official version with few bugs, mby you'll get some players back, like iplayqwerty for example stopped playing here cuz u updated to 85, he will probably play again if u put 83 and probably others with him too

no once you goblak you never go back, if you switch back like 5% will come back, but another 20% will leave, switching forward and back is the most retarded thing to do, trust me i saw it once
i disagree, i think this is more retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXxCd09RUMo
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: Tyrande on August 17, 2016, 17:31


It's time to go back on 6.83 map! Who like 6.85 can simply play DotA 2.

Yeah, because you suck we must play an older and not balanced version. Nice idea. Maybe thats why LA no longer has any players.


U pathetic creature comment me? U are worthless player and very well flamer. What is better balanced in 6.85 map c'mon enlighten me!? and yeah LA lost many normal players, but still have to many retards like u.
Title: Re: Why aren't we using DracoLich's DotA 6.85k?
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on August 26, 2016, 19:32


It's time to go back on 6.83 map! Who like 6.85 can simply play DotA 2.

Yeah, because you suck we must play an older and not balanced version. Nice idea. Maybe thats why LA no longer has any players.


U pathetic creature comment me? U are worthless player and very well flamer. What is better balanced in 6.85 map c'mon enlighten me!? and yeah LA lost many normal players, but still have to many retards like u.

You are probably the only person who is retarded and a faggot at the same time, fucking 2k mmr pinoy monkey.

Anyway, 6.85 is much more balanced, still fuck hoho haha meta but 6.88 = no meta, except that the fucking piece of shit hasn't been moved to d1.