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Title: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:24
So , I play here for years and 500++ games every season sometimes over 1k I rarely did anything against rules you can check.What makes me angry is some players who wont let the obvious better player mid.Which statistically lowers my win rate a quite large margin and also my enjoyment from the game and If I want to win can you blame me?

So , I want a new rule for these type of disagreements.I left 2 games cuz of this.What is your suggestion? I should just play on the side silently with the hero I picked for mid (usually gets facerolled on sidelanes ex.Tinker)
and just lose cuz some guy wanted to mid with 10 games.What should I do ?
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Lagi on December 03, 2015, 16:29
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:24
So , I play here for years and 500++ games every season sometimes over 1k I rarely did anything against rules you can check.What makes me angry is some players who wont let the obvious better player mid.Which statistically lowers my win rate a quite large margin and also my enjoyment from the game and If I want to win can you blame me?

So , I want a new rule for these type of disagreements.I left 2 games cuz of this.What is your suggestion? I should just play on the side silently with the hero I picked for mid (usually gets facerolled on sidelanes ex.Tinker)
and just lose cuz some guy wanted to mid with 10 games.What should I do ?

Get higher psr and you won't meet with 10 games players, or just host your own game and don't let players with low number of games/bad stats etc to be in your games. Or if you are really that good, vouch for ss league, there you won't meet with terrible players. (except jean ofc xDDDD)

Im pretty sure such rule you described will never ever happen.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:32
I already have decent psr if some1 cares , the reason I join these games is lack of people for high psr games at times. so I  should just avoid playing the game? HAHA good solution
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: LexMonster on December 03, 2015, 16:35
Feeding intentionally if someone doesnt let you mid is not a solution either. You are just going to get banned for it. http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5849800

Its your fault if you play AP EU 1500+ games
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:39
Nevermind.I dont know why I make this topic.Only thing thats gonna happen some mods/admins will come here and act all cool and cocky.have fun doing that
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Jimmy on December 03, 2015, 16:43
I have a possible solution for u.
1: Play in Stack teams .
2: :Learn Junggle, Off , Roamer.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Renovatio on December 03, 2015, 16:43
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:39
Nevermind.I dont know why I make this topic.Only thing thats gonna happen some mods/admins will come here and act all cool and cocky.have fun doing that

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Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:48
Quote from: Jimmy on December 03, 2015, 16:43
I have a possible solution for u.
1: Play in Stack teams .
2: :Learn Junggle, Off , Roamer.
I know how to play other roles but these fags dont say anything until I pick my hero.How can I sense if theres a tard in team? if they could speak at first to reveal their intentions ofc I can pick a jungler etc.what makes me angry is all this happen after I pick my hero and thinking all good.I always communicate with the team about this the second game starts.and now im banned by some cool mod who wont even post ban report
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: LexMonster on December 03, 2015, 16:56
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:48
and now im banned by some cool mod who wont even post ban report
Are you using some drugs? You rage-quitted after getting killed 2 times and you accuse some mod banning you? Get your facts straight

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5849858
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:03
Quote from: LexMonster on December 03, 2015, 16:56
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:48
and now im banned by some cool mod who wont even post ban report
Are you using some drugs? You rage-quitted after getting killed 2 times and you accuse some mod banning you? Get your facts straight

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5849858
I get my facts straight.If you are not capable of understanding what I mean then dont bother.I am not accusing him for banning.I want the ban report so i can see how long it is.So again mr.god mod ure so powerful and good but cant make a simple conversation you are just here just to post blank.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: jeandarc on December 03, 2015, 17:13
Quote from: Lagi on December 03, 2015, 16:29
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:24
So , I play here for years and 500++ games every season sometimes over 1k I rarely did anything against rules you can check.What makes me angry is some players who wont let the obvious better player mid.Which statistically lowers my win rate a quite large margin and also my enjoyment from the game and If I want to win can you blame me?

So , I want a new rule for these type of disagreements.I left 2 games cuz of this.What is your suggestion? I should just play on the side silently with the hero I picked for mid (usually gets facerolled on sidelanes ex.Tinker)
and just lose cuz some guy wanted to mid with 10 games.What should I do ?

Get higher psr and you won't meet with 10 games players, or just host your own game and don't let players with low number of games/bad stats etc to be in your games. Or if you are really that good, vouch for ss league, there you won't meet with terrible players. (except jean ofc xDDDD)

Im pretty sure such rule you described will never ever happen.

sry but last time i checked this guy called jeandarc has 100% win rate at SS ladder, dunno why u hate that guy

FACT: http://dota.eurobattle.net/ss/statspriv.php
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: LexMonster on December 03, 2015, 17:15
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:03
I am not accusing him for banning.I want the ban report so i can see how long it is.So again mr.god mod ure so powerful and good but cant make a simple conversation you are just here just to post blank.
Since you IQ is lower than room's temperature, I will try to eplain it to you, but I hope your 3 (in total) brain cells wont over heat and rupture.

You WERE NOT banned by MODERATOR.
So THERE IS NO ban report.
You WERE AUTOBANNED by bot.
Because you RAGE QUIT like kid after getting killed 2 times.

Comprende?
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:26
Quote from: LexMonster on December 03, 2015, 17:15
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:03
I am not accusing him for banning.I want the ban report so i can see how long it is.So again mr.god mod ure so powerful and good but cant make a simple conversation you are just here just to post blank.
Since you IQ is lower than room's temperature, I will try to eplain it to you, but I hope your 3 (in total) brain cells wont over heat and rupture.

You WERE NOT banned by MODERATOR.
So THERE IS NO ban report.
You WERE AUTOBANNED by bot.
Because you RAGE QUIT like kid after getting killed 2 times.

Comprende?
Yeah whatever.nothing to do with this thread.when youre the host sometimes u dont get autobanned dunno why though that is not the case.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: jeandarc on December 03, 2015, 17:33
Listen up guys, I will solve this problem once and for all.

This might sound weird, but in fact you both are right (811 and others who are bulling him).

It's kinda late now but there should be a vouching system here where every player can have only one account there, it should be called "In House LA". Don't get me wrong, this doesn't have to be a "league", just a place where vouched pubbers can play where only ONE of their account can be vouched there. Cuz let's face it, it takes like 5 games to reach 1600+ psr and u can join any 1600+ psr game (cuz nowdays 1600+ games are the highest pub games) and anyone can create a new account, play 5 games, get 1600 psr and go ruin other 1600+ games. The more you know, 811 actually has a good point, I personally play the highest possible games on lagabuse.com and in every single game I will get someone who has no idea what he's doing.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:44
I agree jean but there is ss.when I was newcomer in the ss all I remember is wall of texts in a language I dont understand both inside and outside of the game.where you need to wait there for hours to play and maybe get picked to prove urself.for that also you need to be the ward bitch for 3 months then later , u must post needless wall of information on ebnet just to play dotovo and then wait for another 3 months to be accepted and then maybe someday u can play the role you want :D . I know im exaggerating but also dislike the picking system and  never saw any other mode played which kinda put me away.all I know about ss :D
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Lagi on December 03, 2015, 17:58
Quote from: jeandarc on December 03, 2015, 17:33
Listen up guys, I will solve this problem once and for all.

This might sound weird, but in fact you both are right (811 and others who are bulling him).

It's kinda late now but there should be a vouching system here where every player can have only one account there, it should be called "In House LA". Don't get me wrong, this doesn't have to be a "league", just a place where vouched pubbers can play where only ONE of their account can be vouched there. Cuz let's face it, it takes like 5 games to reach 1600+ psr and u can join any 1600+ psr game (cuz nowdays 1600+ games are the highest pub games) and anyone can create a new account, play 5 games, get 1600 psr and go ruin other 1600+ games. The more you know, 811 actually has a good point, I personally play the highest possible games on lagabuse.com and in every single game I will get someone who has no idea what he's doing.
Thats why i said to join ss league, if he is that good he will enjoy it. There are captains so roles will be clear, he will now if he will play on mid or not etc.
But i still think that if he hosts his own games, he has so many stuff to filter the players to his own taste. !games 100 or whatever, !sd to check stats/winrate etc. Ragequitting and than telling that its because they didn't let him mid is just not a solution at all.

And about this part
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:39
Nevermind.I dont know why I make this topic.Only thing thats gonna happen some mods/admins will come here and act all cool and cocky.have fun doing that
Well the first few sentence of your opening post is kinda cocky too, especially the "obvious better player" part which according to the game where the shit happened pudge who said to go mid has 3.837 KDA in average, while you have 2,884 he has more average lasthit, more average denies even more average towerkills and rax kills than you, but you are sure that you were the "obvious better player" in that game. Well everything is about perspective.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: goblin on December 03, 2015, 18:13
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:44
I agree jean but there is ss.when I was newcomer in the ss all I remember is wall of texts in a language I dont understand both inside and outside of the game.where you need to wait there for hours to play and maybe get picked to prove urself.for that also you need to be the ward bitch for 3 months then later , u must post needless wall of information on ebnet just to play dotovo and then wait for another 3 months to be accepted and then maybe someday u can play the role you want :D . I know im exaggerating but also dislike the picking system and  never saw any other mode played which kinda put me away.all I know about ss :D

After 15min waiting in pool you get waiter status so u must be picked

The path u described is yours to chose,it can be that way...same as it can be the complete opposite...

90% games are cd mode some times cm. .if that puts you away(it is your problem)play what ever you feel like playing atm

If you are willing to try ss once again I am willing to give u trial lvl 1
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 18:20
@Lagi Well yeah maybe he was better player than me , but stats dont say much I played support a lot too so no high average in  rax /tower kills or farm is possible in stats.

@goblin thank you ill consider that.

Its not the first time something like this happens to me , usually people communicate at start , well I try to play with those kind of players mostly in games.In this case my desire to play was gone.

Thank you all for your answers and possibly future ones , ill try to be more picky about the games I play.Its not my purpose to create drama just to make a positive discussion also to know your opinions.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Face^Guy on December 03, 2015, 18:25
Quote from: efko.aqw on December 03, 2015, 17:28
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:26
Quote from: LexMonster on December 03, 2015, 17:15
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 17:03
I am not accusing him for banning.I want the ban report so i can see how long it is.So again mr.god mod ure so powerful and good but cant make a simple conversation you are just here just to post blank.
Since you IQ is lower than room's temperature, I will try to eplain it to you, but I hope your 3 (in total) brain cells wont over heat and rupture.

You WERE NOT banned by MODERATOR.
So THERE IS NO ban report.
You WERE AUTOBANNED by bot.
Because you RAGE QUIT like kid after getting killed 2 times.

Comprende?
Yeah whatever.nothing to do with this thread.when youre the host sometimes u dont get autobanned dunno why though that is not the case.
Only Admin account can play with banned/autobanned account on bot.



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Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Face^Guy on December 03, 2015, 18:30
ya BTW:

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but stats dont say much I played support a lot too so no high average in  rax /tower kills or farm is possible in stats.

Typical noobs when arguing :D
Kappa
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 03, 2015, 18:36
Quote from: Face^Guy on December 03, 2015, 18:30
ya BTW:

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but stats dont say much I played support a lot too so no high average in  rax /tower kills or farm is possible in stats.

Typical noobs when arguing :D
Kappa

Yeah except I pwn ur ass everytime I see u on my game :))
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Face^Guy on December 03, 2015, 18:38
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Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Nexxus on December 04, 2015, 01:32
I came to see what's the problem, any problems?????!?!??!??!?!
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: beastiary on December 04, 2015, 16:13
lol just go fakin dualmid and and kill every-single fakin creep... or just do smthing else than cry on forums
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Nexxus on December 04, 2015, 19:25
qwerty for president, rekt that skrub
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Astaroth on December 05, 2015, 00:58
Quote from: 811 on December 03, 2015, 16:24
So , I play here for years and 500++ games every season sometimes over 1k I rarely did anything against rules you can check.What makes me angry is some players who wont let the obvious better player mid.Which statistically lowers my win rate a quite large margin and also my enjoyment from the game and If I want to win can you blame me?

So , I want a new rule for these type of disagreements.I left 2 games cuz of this.What is your suggestion? I should just play on the side silently with the hero I picked for mid (usually gets facerolled on sidelanes ex.Tinker)
and just lose cuz some guy wanted to mid with 10 games.What should I do ?
You can't have a rule for everything, come on!

You want a rule that says highest psr must go mid, average psr should pick support and lowest psr have to pick a tank (because going in and diying first is easy)?

You need to realize that (in case of pub game) you play with 4 total strangers in team. Anyone of them can think they are the best in the team and are the best for mid.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 05, 2015, 03:18
@astaroth You missed my point like many.I will make it very simple now.Its a lack of communication.Its not only about going mid

- game starts
- I say somethin like im mid with X hero ok guys?
-silence for 30-60 sec my turn to pick
-I pick my hero go to mid
-some retard come to mid as well and dont leave

this is where I want a rule or something like that at least common sense.If he said before I could easily pick something else for other role.you understand now ? none of this crying btw its a normal reaction to a specific rare event that should be put in some way in pubs IMO. If thats silly to you ok then dont contribute.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: 811 on December 05, 2015, 03:27
What I mean by rule something like this ;

Player A didnt answer/communicate with Player B in the game and this happened.then Player A should be warned to provoke Player B to ruin the game/not putting effort/feeding etc.

REMINDER : If you think thats too extreme or silly thats fine.Its not just for me Its for making mods job easier and better quality games on LA bots.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 05, 2015, 09:43
You're fucking garbage kid.

That's why you have a low win rate.

If you were any good, nothing would matter and you would just win 1v9, especially vs the clueless morons on this server that have absolutely no fucking clue what the fuck they are fucking doing.

So don't blame others for your shit win rate.

Blame yourself.
Title: Re: ANSWER ME PLS
Post by: Astaroth on December 05, 2015, 11:23
Quote from: 811 on December 05, 2015, 03:18
@astaroth You missed my point like many.I will make it very simple now.Its a lack of communication.Its not only about going mid

- game starts
- I say somethin like im mid with X hero ok guys?
-silence for 30-60 sec my turn to pick
-I pick my hero go to mid
-some retard come to mid as well and dont leave

this is where I want a rule or something like that at least common sense.If he said before I could easily pick something else for other role.you understand now ? none of this crying btw its a normal reaction to a specific rare event that should be put in some way in pubs IMO. If thats silly to you ok then dont contribute.
I see.

But again, you can't have a rule for everything.

First of all, there would need to be a rule to specify a language allowed and used. English.
Jebem ti cyka blyat orospu cocugu debilní kokote. Yes, that's what would ppl think about such a rule.

Now about the actuall rule: "The first player who says he goes mid is the only one allowed to do so."

Well, that'd be a wonderful rule, wouldn't it?

Anyone who would join a lobby, would instantly say that he goes mid. Then you'd make ban request because you said it even before he joined the lobby...

Or just ingame, everyone would just ctrl-insert his request for mid.

............

I see your point and I agree that some ppl seems to be retarded.
But you need to count with this option if you are playing pub game on LA.com.

Try to use that situation for your advantage - the opponent is surprisingly outnumbered, he isn't happy about this situation either.