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Title: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Nexxus on November 07, 2015, 19:15
I know it's too late and I think most of you saw this blog but w/e

http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/4/9670900/blizzard-starcraft-warcraft-3-diablo-2-modern-operating-systems
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Povratnik on November 07, 2015, 20:36
Finally a topic worth reading, awesome! +1
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: T-Bag on November 07, 2015, 22:05
hmm, sounds good, could be issued as part of official update :)
Nexxus +1 mate
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: T-001 on November 07, 2015, 22:22
interesting but kinda irrelevant. Why would new players go back to diablo2 when they have 3 and maybe even 4 by the time it will be finished? As for nostalgic ppl...i doubt they are so many. Also they would probably prefere the old interface. As for w3...it would probably be better to make a warcraft 4 than throw a new "paint" on an old game and hope for...don't really know what. I checked the stores from time to time. Warcraft3 is almost completely gone from the market. Ppl moved on...
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: cacomonster on November 08, 2015, 03:09
if they like .. make a new patch .. with improved mechanics.. but still can allow old maps to run.. that would make so much of a difference.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Povratnik on November 08, 2015, 04:25
Moved on to what? Quality stays forever, WC3 is the only game i been playing for past 2 years.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: T-001 on November 08, 2015, 21:01
Moved on to what? Quality stays forever, WC3 is the only game i been playing for past 2 years.
Moved on to what? To something new. Quality stays forever. Sure. Would you drive a mercedes made around 1890 on the highway? 2 years? I have been playing this for abt 10! Still...all good things have an end. I am glad though that you are all so enthusiastic. I hope you are right and the game will be indeed saved. It would be worth seeing the server full again like in the good old days.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Jimmy on November 09, 2015, 11:30
Server being empty does not necessarily means the Game lost on Quality , it may also mean people lost the idea of what Quality is.
Dota2 took over players because it is more Noob-Friendly , and it has shiny shit.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Astaroth on November 09, 2015, 13:19
Games doesn't lose quality. Games aren't something that goes bad over some period of time.

I'd call it a progress.

You can say Nokia 3310 was good phone and had its quality. Yet I'm sitting here with my Lumia and I'm not willing to go back. In few years I'll have new, diffrent phone but that doesn't mean my Lumia is bad.

Nokia 3310 may not be the best example ;D
(https://az648995.vo.msecnd.net/devices/2014/03/3310-pureview-in-line1.jpg)
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Jimmy on November 09, 2015, 16:16
Well the discussion is endless, one must respect all opinions, which is difficult, because opinions are so far awai from each other..
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Povratnik on November 09, 2015, 17:31
Chicks with dicks.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: jeandarc on November 09, 2015, 17:57
After the recruitment 2 things might happen to wc3:

1. Wc3 will be moved to battle.net 2.0 which will result in getting more players (of course this doesnt count for those who have pirated wc3, this counts for ppl like me who are true wc3 lovers and actually bought wc3)

2. Wc3 will get a remake into "hd version" just like the one with age of empires 2 that happened where the gameplay will be the same just with better quality.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Lagi on November 09, 2015, 23:22
After the recruitment 2 things might happen to wc3:

1. Wc3 will be moved to battle.net 2.0 which will result in getting more players (of course this doesnt count for those who have pirated wc3, this counts for ppl like me who are true wc3 lovers and actually bought wc3)

2. Wc3 will get a remake into "hd version" just like the one with age of empires 2 that happened where the gameplay will be the same just with better quality.
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/2TZ37/why-not-both/image.jpg?w=479&c=1)
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Astaroth on November 10, 2015, 20:23
I also wonder WHY?

I really hope they won't go same way as AoE and AoM - you can get these with enhanced graphics for 20€ (+10€ expansions each) or 28€ respectively.

I would also point to the fact that Blizzard ignores (and always did) that 1€ ≠ 1$ and sells all games for same "number".
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Povratnik on November 10, 2015, 22:50
I also wonder WHY?

I really hope they won't go same way as AoE and AoM - you can get these with enhanced graphics for 20€ (+10€ expansions each) or 28€ respectively.

I would also point to the fact that Blizzard ignores (and always did) that 1€ ≠ 1$ and sells all games for same "number".
Its well known fact that blizzard dont give a shit about money :D :D
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Astaroth on November 11, 2015, 00:17
They can throw away few million dollars just for nothing but I guess that isn't what you mean.

It just isn't fair, there IS a difference between euros and dollars. The fact that they don't care is kinda sad.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Lagi on November 11, 2015, 05:04
Server being empty does not necessarily means the Game lost on Quality , it may also mean people lost the idea of what Quality is.
Dota2 took over players because it is more Noob-Friendly , and it has shiny shit.
No, it took over because it has support/coverage or dunno how to say it. Updates, maintance continously events etc. And on the war3 it is simply not possible, because of the engine limitations. Every fuckin update on war3 dota is like a pain in the ass for icefrog or even for drakolich i think. And well, "noob-friendly" is not the best expression. Yes many things are easier, but not the game itself, and many things came from the engine things again. In war3 dota you have to use a separate hotkey application for items, customkey generators etc. You have to "hack" those functions into the game while in d2 with the source2 engine they can implement it like no problem. So you can say its "noob-friendly" because of these things like quickbuy etc but you can do the same in war3doto too. Just here its implemented, there its a pain in the ass with a separate application again... Graphics are different, but you just have to get used to it and its not a problem anymore, and as you said quality is not about it so why should it be a problem for anyonein 2015 if a game is not a pixelcloud with 50poligon characters?
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Jimmy on November 11, 2015, 17:16
Well i see what u are sayin'.
Its like the Popular "Selfie" , why is it so popular?
People could do it for 30 years, but its popular in last 5.
Its suddenly cool to brake your hand ( or buy a stick ) , and take a picture of yourself from the distance of 50cms ( 100 with a stick ) .
Yes , im comparing Dota "2" to a Selfie.
Its in the same range of New-Age Modern bullshit imo.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: jeandarc on November 11, 2015, 19:06
so u think people who take selfies with a stick get more likes?
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Lagi on November 11, 2015, 20:00
Well i see what u are sayin'.
Its like the Popular "Selfie" , why is it so popular?
People could do it for 30 years, but its popular in last 5.
Its suddenly cool to brake your hand ( or buy a stick ) , and take a picture of yourself from the distance of 50cms ( 100 with a stick ) .
Yes , im comparing Dota "2" to a Selfie.
Its in the same range of New-Age Modern bullshit imo.
Your arguement/example is simply bad, but nvm.
Game industry could do FarCry4 like graphics in 1985, but they waitied 30 yeras with the release for lulz?
Game is the same, just it has better graphics, higherpoly models and a game engine that doesn't limit the future possibilities, which actually killed dota1. Thats all. I play it for the game itself, not the graphics, but after i get used to it i also like most of the graphic improvements too. You don't have to handle d2 as a fuckin antichrist just because you dont like "new-age modern" graphics.
Whatever, everybody has his own taste.

Personally it's not a problem for me if you can actually see some details in a game.

(http://www.becauseitamusesme.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nes-vs-wii.jpg)

Whats the problem with improvement?
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Jimmy on November 11, 2015, 21:49
You're missin my point.
I was not getting into Difference .
Normally Im for Progress , in all areas it could be improved.. No doubt there
Jimbo was saying that everything New is Easyer , and keeps getting easyer.
Idk if u watched this movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk)
I wanted to take the discussion there, why is everything new so accesable and easy, instead of makin our brain work it out, go Tryhard mode.
Companys ( in all Branches ) are reducing the mind minimum requirement excel at something.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Astaroth on November 12, 2015, 00:14
I have to disagree here with you, Jimmy.

D2 isn't easier than W3 DotA - they are both the same.
The gameplay is the same. The only difference is that at D2 you don't need any additional programs to play the game comfortly - you don't need to dl or "render" a .txt file with all hotkeys, you don't need to dl a program to change inventory hotkeys, you don't need to dl a program that would keep you in the game while having connection problems.

You have all that in one product, one game, all in comfort and easily customizable - so you can focus on the game - DotA 2.
Because you came to play it, not to spent hours by just setting it.

I could come with some example.
Ok, you buy a car. Buy it as it was made.

You can shift the gears as it was originally made: 3 - 5 - 1 - R - 2 - 4.
OR you can go to third party and have it changed to 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - R.

At the third party you can also have seat belts installed. Sometimes they get stucked and sometimes they won't work.

Getting this done isn't something that would "make your brain work", that's just something annoying.

With all these "improvements" you can focus more on the game itself.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Jimmy on November 12, 2015, 00:31
Lets agree to disagree (:
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/iGGHjzCxell2o/200.gif)
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Astaroth on November 12, 2015, 00:36
Yea :)

(http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/1403705/The_Dictator_review_gallery_primary.jpg)

If you know what I mean ;D
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Jimmy on November 12, 2015, 00:44
If the Dicator ordered a Hit on Me?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnuRmMvjscVBams/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Nexxus on January 05, 2016, 04:26
another old thing but gold holy fuck how didnt i notice it :D

its the new warcraft gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=77&v=AIkg9Smrlvg
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: Lagi on January 05, 2016, 06:26
another old thing but gold holy fuck how didnt i notice it :D

its the new warcraft gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=77&v=AIkg9Smrlvg
Yeah its a very nice try, but blizzard won't allow it to spread since it's only a fan-made remake of war3 to  starcraft2 engine, but not official. Anyways impressive work from the creators.
Title: Re: Blizzard is finally doing it!
Post by: 1QuestioN! on January 14, 2016, 17:33
Blizzard gives a 100% of their s**t about wc3 they have Heartstone now