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Title: !no <country>
Post by: dRagoLjuB on April 10, 2015, 22:47
what about the old good command !no <country> | which allows the host to decide which countrys he want in game and which not ...

example

!no tr
-tr joins game
-tr was kick by lagabuse , reson <no tr>
la whispers -tr player kicked bcs of no tr

Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: KeMCek on April 10, 2015, 22:51
Racist.

If that command added Turks %100 change Server. Btw %50 of Turk going the new Server.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Povratnik on April 10, 2015, 22:54
Wow such relevant information Kem....nobody gives a shit...sterotype exist for a reason ;)
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: KeMCek on April 10, 2015, 22:55
Quote from: Povratnik on April 10, 2015, 22:54
Wow such relevant information Kem....nobody gives a shit...sterotype exist for a reason ;)

Hmm i remember u somewhere.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: div.ide on April 10, 2015, 23:17
If only !from got country codes right every time.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: crazymurderer on April 10, 2015, 23:38
funny topic
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: dRagoLjuB on April 11, 2015, 04:16
Quote from: div.ide on April 10, 2015, 23:17
If only !from got country codes right every time.
yeh maybe 1 out of 1000 will get wrong <from info> but they change into <??> afaik (if we think about the same thing) and everyone ignores these ?? guys



Quote from: efko.aqw on April 11, 2015, 01:07
What about special command for no thenewDRAGOLJUB ? It can be interesting and should look like this !dragoljub off ?  ;D
i came here to finish my mission, to get my holy shit member icon !!!
when i get it, than i ll leave u in peace

and yes

!no and the opposite also ,
example : !only tr - ( will only allow turks to join the game )

so everyone will be happy , our turks and non turks ^^
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Lagi on April 11, 2015, 10:13
Quote from: dRagoLjuB on April 11, 2015, 04:16
Quote from: div.ide on April 10, 2015, 23:17
If only !from got country codes right every time.
yeh maybe 1 out of 1000 will get wrong <from info> but they change into <??> afaik (if we think about the same thing) and everyone ignores these ?? guys
I'm from Hungary, but the bot writes UA (ukrain) as my country code for more than a year by now. :D
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Renovatio on April 11, 2015, 10:14
Dude, is an ethical problem... We have rules for nationality tolerance in the hope that players will find enjoyable playing on our bots, being treated as equals and not discriminated. Not letting players in a game that you host should be a decision applied individual. You can kick a player with bad stats or with low psr for obvious reasons but how can you justify kicking every random player who joins from the country banned with !no [flag]? Lets say that a kid from TR joins that lobby and gets auto-kicked; what will he think when he will realise that he got kicked for being a turk? Should he get the ideea that is bad being a turk or the ideea that EU hates his nation?
I get it that you don't like them, the fuckers tried to occupy Romania 5 centuries ago and I would spoken their language now if they would had MH when they tried. Anyway, is wrong banning, from a lobby, a whole country because you had bad game experience caused by some players from it. TR will get kicked because suspecting them of MH > they are in larger number than other countries and ofc you saw more TR players banned for MH than you saw RO, for example. RO will be banned because we are supposed to be gypsies and  we smell funny, RS will get kicked because some of them flamed the host in his game experience, etcetera.
You wanted to debate this ideea so I am giving an opinion, don't take it personally, I do not judge you, I judge your ideea.  :)
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Lagi on April 11, 2015, 10:23
Honestly, It's owner's right to decide whom he wants to play with, and who he doesn't want to see in his game. So if he don't want to play with ppl from whatever country, coz he has bad experience with them, he can use !f and kick them manually, and you can't ban him for it. It would be totally the same, so this command wouldn't make any difference, only making these guys' job a bit easier. But its not a big deal to kick the guys you don't want to play with manually either.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Renovatio on April 11, 2015, 10:35
Yea Lagi, you are right, ofc. But is an important difference: kicking  them manually will get them "you got kicked by the game host" = personal reasons limited only to that host/player, kicking them by !no <country> will make LA part of that decision. It will make things easier > easier to discriminate. Mby dRagoLjub has serious reasons to not play with TR or some other country, but, lets be honest, most of those who kicks players by their flag are racists.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Astaroth on April 12, 2015, 14:04
I don't know about VIP thing around here but if it works, you can give them some extra commands, this one included.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: iNevermore on April 12, 2015, 15:16
Agree, screw the racism and international correctness
I have right to decide who I want to play with and this command would make life easier to many hosts.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Renovatio on April 12, 2015, 18:20
Nice, you need extra commands to "screw international correctness". You have !f and !kick/!open but is way to much work I guess. Did someone else, besides Kemcek, thought at the consequences? How many will play on a discriminating server? This command is the same shit as 2 century ago when afroamericans were still forbidden to enter/be served in some bars/restaurants. That simple command will affect eurobattle.net not just LA. If one player doesn't want to play, anymore, dota here and joins garena for that, you think that he will return to play other custom games here while dota there? Is good thinking to risk losing a shit load of users for the comfort of a handfull? And do not give me that bullshit that they are noobs, 80 percent of the players are noobs; a game is for enjoying yourself, not to be pro at it. Srry if I offended someone but this is some real primitive bullshit and isn't at least essential or in some small way necessary. I said enough regarding this subject. I'm not trying to make a better world, I am just trying to give a help on keeping a good reputation (of LA's/eub.net) and therefore players coming and staying.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: jeandarc on April 12, 2015, 18:44
Omg dota would be so empty without turks, especially without kemcek, suggestion is insta denied
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: iNevermore on April 12, 2015, 18:53
Quote from: Renovatio on April 12, 2015, 18:20
Nice, you need extra commands to "screw international correctness". You have !f and !kick/!open but is way to much work I guess. Did someone else, besides Kemcek, thought at the consequences? How many will play on a discriminating server? This command is the same shit as 2 century ago when afroamericans were still forbidden to enter/be served in some bars/restaurants. That simple command will affect eurobattle.net not just LA. If one player doesn't want to play, anymore, dota here and joins garena for that, you think that he will return to play other custom games here while dota there? Is good thinking to risk losing a shit load of users for the comfort of a handfull? And do not give me that bullshit that they are noobs, 80 percent of the players are noobs; a game is for enjoying yourself, not to be pro at it. Srry if I offended someone but this is some real primitive bullshit and isn't at least essential or in some small way necessary. I said enough regarding this subject. I'm not trying to make a better world, I am just trying to give a help on keeping a good reputation (of LA's/eub.net) and therefore players coming and staying.

Stop shitting ur pants off. Its karma bitch and everyone here that agree on that idea got holy right to do that.
There is no racism since monkeys learned how to speak back.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Renovatio on April 12, 2015, 19:04
OFFTOPIC: Out there, some freaks that aren't able to connect with human race, hide in front of their computer and revenge their inability to adjust in society by eating lots of different sortiments of shit about random persons that they never met and never will. It is easy to be hostile and trash a human that has no face, just a nickname, you cannot empathize with him here. I am not pointing someone in particular; if someone feels offended reading this then she/he should know that maybe isn't his fault, usually the parents are to blame.
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: iNevermore on April 12, 2015, 19:33
HHH, alot of buthut:D
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: DatFace on April 12, 2015, 19:40
Quote from: Renovatio on April 12, 2015, 19:04
OFFTOPIC: Out there, some freaks that aren't able to connect with human race, hide in front of their computer and revenge their inability to adjust in society by eating lots of different sortiments of shit about random persons that they never met and never will. It is easy to be hostile and trash a human that has no face, just a nickname, you cannot empathize with him here. I am not pointing someone in particular; if someone feels offended reading this then she/he should know that maybe isn't his fault, usually the parents are to blame.

Unfortunately we do not .... have .. we... only dicks around here... if you get me  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: !no <country>
Post by: Lagi on April 12, 2015, 19:43
Quote from: DatFace on April 12, 2015, 19:40
Quote from: Renovatio on April 12, 2015, 19:04
OFFTOPIC: Out there, some freaks that aren't able to connect with human race, hide in front of their computer and revenge their inability to adjust in society by eating lots of different sortiments of shit about random persons that they never met and never will. It is easy to be hostile and trash a human that has no face, just a nickname, you cannot empathize with him here. I am not pointing someone in particular; if someone feels offended reading this then she/he should know that maybe isn't his fault, usually the parents are to blame.

Unfortunately we do not .... have .. we... only dicks around here... if you get me  :-\ :-\
Actually we have.

Ontopic: high staff will make their choise about this command i think, thanks for the feedback.
But since this topic went into the wrong way, It is better get locked, sry.

!locked