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Title: Need help
Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on March 30, 2014, 17:20
Which laptop would be better for dota2?

1.HP Probook 455
Procesor AMD A8-4500M 1.9GHz-2,8GHz
RAM 4GB DDR3
Graphic Card AMD Radeon HD 8750M 2GB
HardDrive 500GB

2.Lenovo G500s
Procesor Intel Core-i5 3230 2.6GHz-3.2GHz
RAM 4GB DDR3
Graphic Card GeForce GT 720M 1GB

First one got much better graphic card, but second one got better procesor so i dont know which one will be more effective.
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Post by: Bart on March 30, 2014, 17:43
2nd
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Post by: Fr0zen_Walk^ on March 30, 2014, 17:56
omg maciek 2nd ofc and buy that laptop and let's play dota 2 :D
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Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 30, 2014, 17:58
how much do they cost? :D
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Post by: bassonja on March 30, 2014, 18:04
Both suck if u ask me...
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Post by: .SaLiH. on March 30, 2014, 18:12
2nd better from 1st
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Post by: KeMCek on March 30, 2014, 18:29
Toshiba
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Post by: CoMMoN1337 on March 30, 2014, 18:31
2nd is much better, graphics cards you can get them solo, processors too but they are much more "valuable" than graphics cards, so it would be wise to have to change the most expensive piece as late as possible, therefore 2nd option you provided.

Also, you shouldn't get a laptop, for your info, incase you don't know, with the money you will have to spend for one of those laptops, you can buy like 5 pcs with the same performance-stats.
To make it simple -> pc=cheap&good, laptop=expensive&bad, unless you travel 24/7 or close to it, laptops are not worth the money.

You can get a much better pc with the money you would have to spend for one of those laptops, much much better.
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Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on March 30, 2014, 19:22
Ok so i get 2nd. It cost about 550$. Also i need laptop since im going out of my home and wont even have space for normal pc so i gotta get laptop. Thx for help guys
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Post by: 1QuestioN! on March 30, 2014, 19:40
When u buy laptop u should consider their vent system , laptops overheat much more then desktop machines.
But this laptops looks like gamer laptops so i guess they have good ''breathe'' system.
And 2nd one looks better
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Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on March 30, 2014, 19:49
Btw that laptop got german keyboard and windows, u think that it may be a problem?
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Post by: Bart on March 30, 2014, 19:55
learn german, no problem
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Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on March 30, 2014, 20:11
Or you jst continue playing on ur shit pc, that's cheapest solution.

Works fine for me, 768mb ddr1 ram rulz  :D
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Post by: T-Bag on March 30, 2014, 20:19
I have just bought Lenovo G505s for my GF, and IMO worht the money, only think I did on it is changed HDD to SDD which is from her old laptop and running Win 7 64bit as I dont like Win 8 at all, and also it comes with 1x 4Gb memory, so if u have spare RAM from other/older laptop, throw it in it as I did, so it has 6Gb now  ;)
Also its constructed well for maintenance, 3 screws to be remove and u have full access onto MOBO., HDD, fan, etc...
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Post by: Bart on March 30, 2014, 20:19
Or you jst continue playing on ur shit pc, that's cheapest solution.

Works fine for me, 768mb ddr1 ram rulz  :D

butthurt as hell xD
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Post by: T-Bag on March 30, 2014, 20:25
Btw that laptop got german keyboard and windows, u think that it may be a problem?
its german look, so u can install different keyboard support in it and if u know your current keyboard layout then u are fine ...if u dont, u can replace it with different layout.
And about system? well, not that hard to change it or try to look up for some way how to change language.
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Post by: ilikedat on March 30, 2014, 20:33
its german look, so u can install different keyboard support in it and if u know your current keyboard layout then u are fine ...if u dont, u can replace it with different layout.
the only difference between german keyboard & english keyboard is that button 'y' is 'z' and the button 'z' is 'y',just swap them and the problem solved :)
And about system? well, not that hard to change it or try to look up for some way how to change language.
i guess the language cannot be changed without installing new windows
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Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 30, 2014, 20:53
no the language can be changed.
You just have to get it via update center, select english and download it, than after it's installed you can change it at  Control Panel\Clock, Language, and Region : change language display.

I used to have my windows on dutch, and always i switched to english via this way.

ps : as somebody else said graphic is not that important, it's better to have more RAM and better proccessor cuz Graphic card can be increased in a easy way.
By installing Windows 7 64bit, and the graphic card will get some of your ram, from 1 will got 2 GB
( mine went from 512 MB to 1512 MB, in windows 7 64bit)
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Post by: Bart on March 30, 2014, 21:48
kiedy kurwa plebie bedziesz na docie 2 w koncu xDDD

hi experts.
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Post by: skywolf007 on March 30, 2014, 22:05
Windows 7 and 8 language can be changed any time if you own one of these versions:  Enterprise, Ultimate. Its very easy, just go to windows update, go for optional updates and all the available languages are there to download. After that you go to control panel, and regional and language and simply change it.

If you have other versions than mentioned above, you cannot change the language. The only thing you can do is to download a win7 installation in the preferred language and reinstall your system with it.(or install ultimate edition and you can do it anytime)
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Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on March 30, 2014, 22:14
Ok thx for help again. I gotta buy it now and then ill check these things.

Pewnie za tydzien lub dwa juz bedzie, poki co ss cisniemy z blackiem ;d
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Post by: skywolf007 on March 31, 2014, 00:07
Also if you are changing between these two laptops, you must consider what you are going to use it for. If you prefer gaming modern games definitely go for the AMD one. If you are playing games like dota, dota2 etc you the intel+nvidia is a better, non the less the 720M is a very shitty graphic card. If you think of performance comparison, the intel HD 4400/4600 is the challenger, and I think the intel graphics is better for overall usage. Also check out some Toshiba, they have really well built notebooks in the mid range class
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Post by: iNevermore on March 31, 2014, 00:39
Seriously dont go with lenovo.... nor with hp dell or other shit...
In that money u can buy seriously good laptop such as asus or even sony vaio.
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Post by: T-Bag on March 31, 2014, 01:26
How lenovo became a shitty brand?
I had owned VAIO earlier, its good machine, but their cases are very poor plastic, very fragile and easy to break, especially when you open it few times due to maintenance.
HP overall seems to be a brand, which doenst prefer their customers to do anything inside their laptops...first laptop ever, which I had to disassemble completely (I mean completely, take screen out and remove MOBO too) to be able to clean fan and replace thermal paste...
And about ASUS, well I have heard lots of stories, some guys hate them others love them...and I have no exprience with them  :P
DELL machines are good too, but better to go mid-high range for gaming as low-mid range machines usually overheats.
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Post by: CoMMoN1337 on March 31, 2014, 04:14
Also if you are changing between these two laptops, you must consider what you are going to use it for. If you prefer gaming modern games definitely go for the AMD one. If you are playing games like dota, dota2 etc you the intel+nvidia is a better, non the less the 720M is a very shitty graphic card. If you think of performance comparison, the intel HD 4400/4600 is the challenger, and I think the intel graphics is better for overall usage. Also check out some Toshiba, they have really well built notebooks in the mid range class
Stop looking so much at the brand, only the specs are important, every single brand has shit pcs/laptops and good ones, their names are irrelevant, just look at the specs and how easily you can disassemble them in case you need to etc things like that.

Also, he made it pretty clear he will choose only one of them, but just incase anyone else in this situation is reading, just because you didn't plan on using a pc/laptop for gaming doesn't mean you should buy a shit pc/laptop, maybe you will want to use it for that too and then you'll need a new one because the one you bought is too weak, why would you limit your own options and waste your time/money like that ?

The concept of "planning" on not using it for anything else is quite ridicolous, since you can plan to do something only an hour later and your perspective, situation, availability, mood can simply change and your plans will be useless.

You can't predict your future, no matter how hard you try, and you will only go downhill if you try, if you rely on the luck of prediction to solve your problems then I have some bad news for you.

To deviate from the subject a bit (you can stop reading if you're not interested), I've seen this stupid mentality around for giving up on games aswell. "I'm moving on with my life, I won't have time to play anymore, I'm better off without it", simply retarded thoughts, just because you'll have less time as you grow up doesn't mean you have to sacrifice doing what you enjoy completely, sure you won't have as much time, but that doesn't mean you have to erase everything you like from existence.
Before you go walking around like an empty sad robot like the rest of the world stop 1, 2 seconds and think what you're doing. That's one of the saddest things you can do in life, deciding to delete or to not do something you like ever again, just because of a little change/hardship in your life, if you continue down this road and you'll be depressed/apathetic in no time.

The point is, you can try as much as you like, you can make as many sacrifices as you can, but at the end of the day it will all be for nothing, your life will still suck, so you might aswell enjoy it as much as you can by doing what you like as much as you can, being happy about it, rather that struggling to fight endless mental blocks and restrictions you are inflicting upon yourselves for various uncertain, unjustified, naive reasons.
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Post by: bassonja on March 31, 2014, 11:41
In case he has to choose only between those 2, i would go for second simply cause it has better processor. Even so its dual core i5, it has more cache, and more speed per clock. The amd is quad core, but its like buisness class of processor, so pick second and u can't go wrong.
Also get a program like fan speed control, and a game booster to close aplications when you play dota2 to avoid any kind of heating and take care of your laptop :)

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Post by: Astaroth on March 31, 2014, 12:02
I gotta say I work with HP PCs and laptops, their laptops are easy to disassemble (I have exp with few types only) and clean (unlike Acer, where you need to take out literally everything to take out fan).

Acer's hinges sucks really, HP have good ones. I had only few Dells but saw no problems with hinges.

A friend of mine had Lenovo and had huge problems with reclamation.
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Post by: iNevermore on March 31, 2014, 20:31
Lenovo is like wooden ferrari.
If you want to have laptop for much longer you gotta find somethign else. Think about it.
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Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on April 01, 2014, 13:43
And what u think about intel hd 4600 card? Is it better than geforce 720?
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Post by: ColdWorld on April 01, 2014, 14:56
And what u think about intel hd 4600 card? Is it better than geforce 720?
GT720M and HD4600 are similar in performance but since its i5, you should chose GT720m.
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Post by: bassonja on April 01, 2014, 20:09
And what u think about intel hd 4600 card? Is it better than geforce 720?
GT720M and HD4600 are similar in performance but since its i5, you should chose GT720m.

Doesn't first laptop have HD 8750M? not HD 4600...

It doesn't matter, cause you can see here both are simliar in performance.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-8750M-vs-GeForce-GT-720

 The processor is what you should be aiming here, since both laptops have simliar graphics card, and I told you second laptop has better dual core then the first quad core, but its your choice ^^
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Post by: ColdWorld on April 01, 2014, 20:10
And what u think about intel hd 4600 card? Is it better than geforce 720?
GT720M and HD4600 are similar in performance but since its i5, you should chose GT720m.

Doesn't first laptop have HD 8750M? not HD 4600...

It doesn't matter, cause you can see here both are simliar in performance.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-8750M-vs-GeForce-GT-720

 The processor is what you should be aiming here, since both laptops have simliar graphics card, and I told you second laptop has better dual core then the first quad core, but its your choice ^^
Forgot to add that M xd anyway, with that i5 he will get better gaming preformance with GT720 than hd4600.