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Title: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Rocka on March 20, 2014, 22:42
Dear players,

As you've probably noticed LagAbuse has been taken over by eurobattle.net.
You will see changes coming on short term and also some at long term. Also you will see different people and new people for several positions.

Anyway back to the subject of this topic. Since we see this as a new fresh start we are also thinking of completely resetting all stats. But we are asking you people to give your opinion about this, by voting in the poll and/or posting in this topic. We will try to answer all of your questions and we will discuss any good idea's you will give us in this topic.

So do not hesitate to share your idea's of how to make the stats system and ladder better.

But let me remind you of the fact that there can also be people who are against stats reset.

If you want to share your opinion about this matter here are some points you can add in your post:
- Should we start working with seasons(example: every 6 months new season)
- What benefits could we give to the top at the end of seasons
- What awards could we use

These are just examples, give us all your idea's and we as staff will discuss it and hopefully we can make changes that will be good for everyone who plays here.

Feel free to PM me or any other staff matter regarding this case.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Boki_ on March 20, 2014, 23:15
i dont see anything bad if u take some things from iccup----
u have follow there.
u can clear your stats.
TB teambalance gives 30% more points....
there is no K/D/A just win rate... ( removing K/D/A will move teamplay on another lvl)
that is my opinion....
i know that isn't posibile to add that all.... but i don't see anything bad in those things.
regards
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on March 21, 2014, 04:40
Dear players,

As you've probably noticed LagAbuse has been taken over by eurobattle.net.
You will see changes coming on short term and also some at long term. Also you will see different people and new people for several positions.

Finally, nice.

Anyway back to the subject of this topic. Since we see this as a new fresh start we are also thinking of completely resetting all stats. But we are asking you people to give your opinion about this, by voting in the poll and/or posting in this topic. We will try to answer all of your questions and we will discuss any good idea's you will give us in this topic.

Resetting stats is definetly the way to go, there are far too many clueless noobs who think they are good players because of their psr when they just stacked 5 people with 2000+ psr in one team and went to play ap eu noob games vs 1000-1500 psr guys for +1 psr. (abusing the psr giving bug)
Also after some time passes (and in this session, a whole lot of time has passed), there are people with 1000+ games with 1600 psr, when their value should be around 1300 psr, just because of many games played. When you play endlessly your psr inevitably rises, but for many of them it's most likely because of their allies not them, the point is after much time passes the psrs become quite irrelevant and unimpressive.

So do not hesitate to share your idea's of how to make the stats system and ladder better.

To give you an ideea which I think will actually bring people here (even though there are far less dota 1 players nowadays), read this topic http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=142290.0 (I assume now there will be people capable of modifying a silly lil bot configuration to make it happen)

But let me remind you of the fact that there can also be people who are against stats reset.

The truth is, those people are most likely those clueless noobs (no offense ment buddies, it's just a fact) I was talking about who want to hang on, on their barely reached in 2000 games psr which is completely irrelevant.
Also a change in administration really should be transmitted with something like a psr reset, and given the fact that most people agree with stats reset, it definetly should be done and the vote need not be unanimous.

If you want to share your opinion about this matter here are some points you can add in your post:
- Should we start working with seasons(example: every 6 months new season)
- What benefits could we give to the top at the end of seasons
- What awards could we use

- I'd say every year is better, 6 months seems a bit quick, but it's still much better than every 9999999 years like this current season is.
- Server award for the entire next season, a unique one which is known only for being #1 for example.
- Well there are many to choose from, I think it doesn't matter as long as they are unique, to be easily distinguished from the rest of the accomplishments.

These are just examples, give us all your idea's and we as staff will discuss it and hopefully we can make changes that will be good for everyone who plays here.
Another thing which would be nice to see is adding a winning streak/losing streak counter on the players stat page.
Also more tournaments with heroes which haven't been hosted before. (only a handful of heroes are used, and only very few others recently)

Another thing, opened for debate, should be either removing -em games, either not granting psr for it, either making the psr earned from it from win/loss, half of it. (for odd x numbers of psr awarded, x-1, x/2, x+1)
Why ?
Mainly because -em is not dota, it's a different game.
Another reason is games can end far too quick and it's simply unfair to grant the same psr rewards at win/loss.
Another reason is those who were playing -em will probably switch to normal games, since they won't have any serious psr gains from -em, and they will gradually start learning what dota is after leaving their pick-a-carry-and-win mode. (because of this the number of players will also increase, because there are many players which you don't even notice that they are there, simply because they are playing -em games)
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: rocka's#2fanboy on March 21, 2014, 07:43
I like common's ideas, agree with every of them. 1v1 ladder is great, mby i'd finally manage losing after 1year of wins.
Em games are like hi i pick arc warden, die 18 times but still, buy HoM in 6.th min thanx to em.
Win/Lose streak is also good,

+add smth like 'best support award' every month, for those who actually play support and actually buy wards and actually don't lasthit kills, THESE ppl make even 'high' psr games TEAMPLAYABLE, it'd be motivation for them, wouldn't be sad for what statistics they've got.. => better game quality.
:)
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iErnesto94 on March 21, 2014, 09:15
Since most of the high psr players are active and every good player can be top 50 with some effort , stats should not be resetted.
PSR , (K+A)/D , Win ratio together can PRICESELY proove if a player is pro or not.

2000vs1500 stacks does not exist anymore cause high psr players lost psr this way . If som1 drop 1/10 games and loose 1/10 games then he is -10psr like np.

**Important Note**
Poll's results cannot be trustfull till you add some multiaccount filters.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iNevermore on March 21, 2014, 10:02
Well since eurobattle.net took "us" we should bring more people here. Why not to make awards? just like yuppers said
Or somehting like our own wodota clip? Top monthly moves or something like that? LAdota  :D

About commons idea of 1v1 ladder i think its great.
I guess now its most important  to bring people here so this idea should be ok

Yea reseting stats is ok. PEople with 1600 psr are mostly having more skills than people at 1900 autoattacking so this is sad. PEople who are agaisnt stats reset are mostly psr  farmers that will have problems in gettign again the amount of psr got now.

But yes, Id like to see awards and stat reset for now.
Why not opening IHRL again?
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: WORRA on March 21, 2014, 10:34
I aggre for stats reset even though me and my brother made some nice accs with nice stats and psr.I want stats reset because it hasnt happend for a long time,and there are a lot of players that haave 1800,1900,2000+ that are very bad players but they manage to come there because of the 1k games.So by reseting stats ul give us time to dodge those player in the next 6 monhts :P

INevermor thats bullshit that 1600>1900 dont want to comment that at all.

Yuppers,support his idea.Im a support player and that would be nice.

Em games dont want to even comment,never play them if u want honest em games should have its own ladder sistem because it has nothing to do with normal dota pub game.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: WORRA on March 21, 2014, 10:39
Oh yea and forgot to comment 1v1 ladder that would be good also.
So common face the fact he is not the best mider :D
Sry didnt read your post from start was to long,after comment i read  a bit saw we saying alike.wp :P
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iNevermore on March 21, 2014, 10:51
I wrote it wrong. Some of the 1600 are better than 1900...
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on March 21, 2014, 11:21
Since most of the high psr players are active and every good player can be top 50 with some effort , stats should not be resetted.
PSR , (K+A)/D , Win ratio together can PRICESELY proove if a player is pro or not.

2000vs1500 stacks does not exist anymore cause high psr players lost psr this way . If som1 drop 1/10 games and loose 1/10 games then he is -10psr like np.

**Important Note**
Poll's results cannot be trustfull till you add some multiaccount filters.

**An even more Important Note**
You are one of the biggest examples of the people I mentioned in my previous post, I will quote those parts below in this post.
You have played well over 500 games in the manner I described, and you even abused the ladder by making one of your friends feed you in several games, and the psr on the account you got banned for doing that got transfered to you on your other acc, which is now iorestis94 or something like that.
So the **Important Note** is, your opinion can easily be discarded by everyone, taking the things mentioned into consideration.

Anyway back to the subject of this topic. Since we see this as a new fresh start we are also thinking of completely resetting all stats. But we are asking you people to give your opinion about this, by voting in the poll and/or posting in this topic. We will try to answer all of your questions and we will discuss any good idea's you will give us in this topic.

Resetting stats is definetly the way to go, there are far too many clueless noobs who think they are good players because of their psr when they just stacked 5 people with 2000+ psr in one team and went to play ap eu noob games vs 1000-1500 psr guys for +1 psr. (abusing the psr giving bug)
Also after some time passes (and in this session, a whole lot of time has passed), there are people with 1000+ games with 1600 psr, when their value should be around 1300 psr, just because of many games played. When you play endlessly your psr inevitably rises, but for many of them it's most likely because of their allies not them, the point is after much time passes the psrs become quite irrelevant and unimpressive.
But let me remind you of the fact that there can also be people who are against stats reset.

The truth is, those people are most likely those clueless noobs (no offense ment buddies, it's just a fact) I was talking about who want to hang on, on their barely reached in 2000 games psr which is completely irrelevant.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: rocka's#2fanboy on March 21, 2014, 11:27
I wrote it wrong. Some of the 1600 are better than 1900...
[dota4life], eustass_kid
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Astaroth on March 21, 2014, 11:43
@CoMMoN: iErnesto didn't get his stats swapped from iernesto94 because Resor did reset his stats when he banned him.

@yuppers: Support award would be nice but how do you find who's best support? Wards aren't the answer I guess. Every one can buy 20 wards in the end of the game and place them at fountain, thus boosting his stats.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on March 21, 2014, 11:50
Ladder reset will be good but not in way that you will make anonymous poll which can be abused quite easily..
To be fair, it's far more likely the abuse goes twards the "No" answer, because pretty much the entire server wants stats reset, if we are honest here.
It's been forever since stats were reset. It seems far more likely to me that ernesto for example has 5 other accounts and used them all to say no.
@CoMMoN: iErnesto didn't get his stats swapped from iernesto94 because Resor did reset his stats when he banned him.

@yuppers: Support award would be nice but how do you find who's best support? Wards aren't the answer I guess. Every one can buy 20 wards in the end of the game and place them at fountain, thus boosting his stats.
Yeah, well he got them from somewhere, and if he did that on ernesto account, the smart money says he did that on the one he got it swapped from too, and the smart money says he also stacked high vs very low, so the point still stands.
You are correct about kaolins guy ward suggestion.

Kaolin guy, the ideea is ok, good even, but that is one of the many things that can simply not work because of the way you can buy an infinite number of sentry wards, if you have infinite money, because as you know they don't have cooldown, and the game doesn't distinguish between observers and sentries, so it simply can't be made to work.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Meth0d on March 21, 2014, 11:55
I wrote it wrong. Some of the 1600 are better than 1900...
[dota4life], eustass_kid

dodel21 too , autoattack 2k psr..
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 21, 2014, 12:00
Awards will be included, more info about it will be soon. (When my back stops to hurts so I can sit)
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Blind_Joker on March 21, 2014, 12:04
Stand like a marine !
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iErnesto94 on March 21, 2014, 12:14
Since most of the high psr players are active and every good player can be top 50 with some effort , stats should not be resetted.
PSR , (K+A)/D , Win ratio together can PRICESELY proove if a player is pro or not.

2000vs1500 stacks does not exist anymore cause high psr players lost psr this way . If som1 drop 1/10 games and loose 1/10 games then he is -10psr like np.

**Important Note**
Poll's results cannot be trustfull till you add some multiaccount filters.

**An even more Important Note**
You are one of the biggest examples of the people I mentioned in my previous post, I will quote those parts below in this post.
You have played well over 500 games in the manner I described, and you even abused the ladder by making one of your friends feed you in several games, and the psr on the account you got banned for doing that got transfered to you on your other acc, which is now iorestis94 or something like that.
So the **Important Note** is, your opinion can easily be discarded by everyone, taking the things mentioned into consideration.

Stats tranferred from _Orestis to iOrestis94 not iErnesto94 and all games +5/-4.

Please do not speak about things you do not know cause you only proove how small minded you are .
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iNevermore on March 21, 2014, 12:42
Oh wow, MNG became Admin, gotta be polite to him now  :D
Now he can surely ban me, for real  :P
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: ilikedat on March 21, 2014, 12:48
@Common 1 year & 4 months have passed since last stats reset (http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=117940.0),your argument is invalid  :P

Ladder reset will be good but not in way that you will make anonymous poll which can be abused quite easily..
so lets declare our votes here,im for stats reset every year.
what will happen with those players who are now on top 100 on ladder,will they get rewards after stats reset?
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 21, 2014, 13:07
Until I am here that will never happen again (iernesto thing).
About stats reset, as Rockafella explained we want fresh start. My idea is to include server and forum icons as awards and that can be done now when we have new gproxy so ut will be hard to abuse something. So yes for stats reset if you ask me.
Kind regards.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iErnesto94 on March 21, 2014, 13:08
Until I am here that will never happen again (iernesto thing).
About stats reset, as Rockafella explained we want fresh start. My idea is to include server and forum icons as awards and that can be done now when we have new gproxy so ut will be hard to abuse something. So yes for stats reset if you ask me.
Kind regards.
Demote , stats reset , permaban .
|What thing?
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: ilikedat on March 21, 2014, 13:09
Until I am here that will never happen again (iernesto thing).
what will not happen again stats swap or stats reset after abuse?
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Boki_ on March 21, 2014, 15:56
http://prntscr.com/32s4qx --->nirvana
kale he is wating 4 u :) :D :D
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: rocka's#2fanboy on March 21, 2014, 17:53
@ppl who took the 'wards' thing seriously; it was explanation what supports should actually do - buy wards,buy smoke... Not like 'most wards bought = icon, that's bullshit lolz. I meant it more like ppl who think they're best eu support players, should post in some topic or w/e and admins check they're k/d/a (0/6/37 is ideal) and choose da best one...
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Rocka on March 21, 2014, 18:24
i dont see anything bad if u take some things from iccup----
u have follow there.
u can clear your stats.
TB teambalance gives 30% more points....
there is no K/D/A just win rate... ( removing K/D/A will move teamplay on another lvl)
that is my opinion....
i know that isn't posibile to add that all.... but i don't see anything bad in those things.
regards
don't we have a balance system that gives psr based on the balance of PSR?
Im not a fan of removing K/D/A, its also a way to see someone abilities(yes, we are aware that some dont show it correctly but its a guide and reason for the host to let someone play or not)

Maybe we can add a balance option which allows no locking(I think thats your point) which will give extra % psr. Thanks for the heads up, I added it to the list of discussion.


Common, thank you very much for all the idea's I put all of them in priv section so we can discuss about that. I really like them. You will hear from me



@yuppers, there will most likely be a top 5 which shows kills/assists etc again, we will most likely add awards to that when a season ends. So in there you can see someone who can have 0/6/37 and he will receive #1 support award. This will probably be the only way that will work. We have too much players to let you decide who is best because people will vote for friends anyway.



Since most of the high psr players are active and every good player can be top 50 with some effort , stats should not be resetted.
PSR , (K+A)/D , Win ratio together can PRICESELY proove if a player is pro or not.

2000vs1500 stacks does not exist anymore cause high psr players lost psr this way . If som1 drop 1/10 games and loose 1/10 games then he is -10psr like np.

**Important Note**
Poll's results cannot be trustfull till you add some multiaccount filters.

I don't think many people will agree that it shows something pricesely, as mentioned before it might prove stackers and stuff like that. We know polls results shouldnt be taken completely serious, but it does show as by and large what people want. As said before; our decision wont be made upon the outcome of this poll. If you think you are genius creating 50 accounts voting yes, another can be a genius creating 50 accounts voting no. It wont help.



@iNevermore; we will not re-open IHRL, at least not yet. We will focus on getting the public ladder more active first.


Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: WORRA on March 21, 2014, 18:25
u can check my supp stats :P

Would be better if i knew i was competing with somebody,this acc was for fun mostly
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: rocka's#2fanboy on March 21, 2014, 18:52
I'm looking forward to raping in 1v1 hmm
Btw make it like 2 different stats for 5v5 games and 1v1 games so everyone'd know i'm da best with 100% win.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Bart on March 21, 2014, 19:56
those new positions xD i loled  xD

hf with new fresh start? isnt it a bit late, w/e.
Title: Suggestion:O
Post by: guest49825 on March 22, 2014, 21:06
I voted yes. But can u make smth like history of the seasons?
Smth like mini table (e.g. new 'tab' near Player info, Ladder stats, Ladder games, Custom games called like Previous leagues results or smth) which contains finally scores for each season (winrate, psr, games, KDA, cs, rax)? I guess mostly ppls loves to see old results as a history of their playing at this server. Just a stats reset isn't good i think, imho
Also u can add into stats/achiviements criterias like (lvl 6 at time, lvl 11 at time) it was at dotalicious; But its just a suggestion

Btw, sorry for my sexy english, im russian :O
Regards
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 22, 2014, 21:13
Ty for you suggestion we will discuss it inside the staff and check is this possible to make.

Regards,

mrNiceguy
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iErnesto94 on March 22, 2014, 21:30
Awards for top 10 or 25 high psr players of this season .
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on March 23, 2014, 16:33
I see many things have changed around here. Nice to see that.

I'll come for some games maybe when I get some time, keep LA alive :D

Cheers


Title: Re: Suggestion:O
Post by: iNevermore on March 23, 2014, 17:47
I voted yes. But can u make smth like history of the seasons?
Smth like mini table (e.g. new 'tab' near Player info, Ladder stats, Ladder games, Custom games called like Previous leagues results or smth) which contains finally scores for each season (winrate, psr, games, KDA, cs, rax)? I guess mostly ppls loves to see old results as a history of their playing at this server. Just a stats reset isn't good i think, imho
Also u can add into stats/achiviements criterias like (lvl 6 at time, lvl 11 at time) it was at dotalicious; But its just a suggestion

Btw, sorry for my sexy english, im russian :O
Regards

Thats good idea tho. I rather play with some old guards than with rookies that are playng less than a year talking about experience.
Title: Re: Suggestion:O
Post by: Meth0d on March 23, 2014, 18:47
I voted yes. But can u make smth like history of the seasons?
Smth like mini table (e.g. new 'tab' near Player info, Ladder stats, Ladder games, Custom games called like Previous leagues results or smth) which contains finally scores for each season (winrate, psr, games, KDA, cs, rax)? I guess mostly ppls loves to see old results as a history of their playing at this server. Just a stats reset isn't good i think, imho
Also u can add into stats/achiviements criterias like (lvl 6 at time, lvl 11 at time) it was at dotalicious; But its just a suggestion

Btw, sorry for my sexy english, im russian :O
Regards

Thats good idea tho. I rather play with some old guards than with rookies that are playng less than a year talking about experience.

+1
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 23, 2014, 19:29
What we can add (maybe it has to be checked with coder first) is amount of games played, like when u reset stats your amount of play games will remain unchanged, also maybe we can also add (also it has to be checked with coder) that like 100 games played you gain lvl 1, 200 lvl 2, 300 lvl 3 etc..
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Meth0d on March 23, 2014, 20:05
What we can add (maybe it has to be checked with coder first) is amount of games played, like when u reset stats your amount of play games will remain unchanged, also maybe we can also add (also it has to be checked with coder) that like 100 games played you gain lvl 1, 200 lvl 2, 300 lvl 3 etc..

Thats cool , cuz alot ppl changing nicks every day. And thos who had 500 + or 1k + get 0 respect from others who playing on 30 accs. Than they will maybe play on 1 acc more game cuz that lvl. Nice idea.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iNevermore on March 24, 2014, 22:57
What we can add (maybe it has to be checked with coder first) is amount of games played, like when u reset stats your amount of play games will remain unchanged, also maybe we can also add (also it has to be checked with coder) that like 100 games played you gain lvl 1, 200 lvl 2, 300 lvl 3 etc..

Sounds great, if its possible to add it will be awesome to have it ;)
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Bart on March 26, 2014, 21:34
first fix rating system :D

every game should be -+15 even at 2000psr or w/e
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Lagi on April 13, 2014, 21:04
So whats up with that reset thingy? Is there a possible date already?
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: ilikedat on April 13, 2014, 21:05
So whats up with that reset thingy? Is there a possible date already?
yes,read this topic http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=153159.msg529023#new
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Lagi on April 13, 2014, 21:18
So whats up with that reset thingy? Is there a possible date already?
yes,read this topic http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=153159.msg529023#new

Thanks, i didnt see that topic :)
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: psych0tron on April 13, 2014, 21:31
we need to improve the gproxy to be reduced to a minimum for maphack'ers.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Asandir on April 13, 2014, 22:19
About new season, i would have one suggestion: remove !sync command, because it does more harm then good... We saw many cases like, first bloods because host just can't wait 30 or more seconds, so it's a free kill. This is also abusable i think. Cheers
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Rocka on April 13, 2014, 22:20
dont worry about that
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 13, 2014, 23:28
About new season, i would have one suggestion: remove !sync command, because it does more harm then good... We saw many cases like, first bloods because host just can't wait 30 or more seconds, so it's a free kill. This is also abusable i think. Cheers
Play with people who don't lag / host your own games = problem solved.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Dark_Tauren on April 16, 2014, 13:14
You should insert the top 5 or 10 for:

1 below 1500 psr
2 1501-1600 psr
3 1601-1700 psr
4 1701-1800 psr
5 1801-1900 psr
6 1901-2000 psr
7 over 2000 psr

In these top5/10 be for example:

Most of kills, assists, deaths, creeps, denies, neutral kills per game...

You can insert at the end of the game who was the best and worst player. Of course the best to get extra PSR. Example: For example: I got +5 to win and + bonus.
bonuses:
0-5 - 2 psr
6-10 - 4 psr
11-15 - 6 psr
16-20 - 8 psr
30 + - 10 psr

Sry if I copied someone, I didnt read all topics.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: UltimateTroll on April 16, 2014, 13:52
You should insert the top 5 or 10 for:

1 below 1500 psr
2 1501-1600 psr
3 1601-1700 psr
4 1701-1800 psr
5 1801-1900 psr
6 1901-2000 psr
7 over 2000 psr

In these top5/10 be for example:

Most of kills, assists, deaths, creeps, denies, neutral kills per game...

You can insert at the end of the game who was the best and worst player. Of course the best to get extra PSR. Example: For example: I got +5 to win and + bonus.
bonuses:
0-5 - 2 psr
6-10 - 4 psr
11-15 - 6 psr
16-20 - 8 psr
30 + - 10 psr

Sry if I copied someone, I didnt read all topics.
that just makes no sense at all,especially best player thingie,k/d/a or cs count doesnt show how many shackles u have hit with wr,how many hooks u landed with pudge,how many perfect aoe ultimates u landed which turned the game around etc.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Dark_Tauren on April 16, 2014, 14:48
Shut up. There were top 10 about a 3,4 years ago.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Rocka on April 16, 2014, 15:53
There was a top 5 indeed, but it didnt give bonus psr, I think that's what troll means.
I think you are reffering to dota 2, but I kinda think that is way too hard or impossible to code here.

I don't really feel the need of 1/2 particular players being able to get extra psr, at the end, its a teamgame, you gain or lose together.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iNevermore on April 16, 2014, 16:00
If you are really giving so much damn about psr you prabobly never played a serious ranked game. Sign to some kind of dota league such as ss or ihrl (wish it comes back) there you dont need psr but experience and dota knwoledge. Earning psr is abusable and very often all the 1900+ real pros are autoatatcking and unable to do shit in 1600+ games so looking on PSR or even K/D is pointless.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: mrNiceguy on April 16, 2014, 16:21
@Dark_Tauren if you are capable to code all those things and send us the code we will implement them instantly.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: tsk101 on April 18, 2014, 01:41
this sucks completely
not because stupid ego score
but because now everyone is turning on their MH's
I can't play any normal game anymore and reporting is useless since everyone is now
at zero point

total crap
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: mrNiceguy on April 18, 2014, 09:09
this sucks completely
not because stupid ego score
but because now everyone is turning on their MH's
I can't play any normal game anymore and reporting is useless since everyone is now
at zero point

total crap

I have played 13 games yesterday and no one in those games were using mh.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: iErnesto94 on April 18, 2014, 09:24
this sucks completely
not because stupid ego score
but because now everyone is turning on their MH's
I can't play any normal game anymore and reporting is useless since everyone is now
at zero point

total crap
There are mainly leavers and not mhers but in soon it will be fixed in higher psr games ( 1600++ etc ) .
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: retard on April 21, 2014, 12:25
Its simple.
Adding bot cmd !hs <user> or !highscore <user>, to show the highest psr he ever got on LA (no matter which season he got it)
Probably that %variable is already in the bot code (database) so i hope it wont be hard to implement.

Hard pros know eachother via many ways, but this would be official proove of their achivements in LA.

Just saying guys...

And (+1) for the 100/200/300 games -> making LVL go up. 
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 21, 2014, 13:54
And (+1) for the 100/200/300 games -> making LVL go up.
Why for 100/200/300 games ? That's a horrible ideea. There already is a problem when people have a big number of games, they inevitably rise to a psr which is far above their real level, simply because of their teammates. To further reward them would be absolutely ridicolous.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 21, 2014, 13:58
And (+1) for the 100/200/300 games -> making LVL go up.
Why for 100/200/300 games ? That's a horrible ideea. There already is a problem when people have a big number of games, they inevitably rise to a psr which is far above their real level, simply because of their teammates. To further reward them would be absolutely ridicolous.
I thought you ment +1 psr for those that played 100/200/300 games, I forgot you guys were talking about that "lvl up" stuff and that you said +1 (meaning you support it) to it.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Sejanus on April 21, 2014, 15:22
tsk101 is correct.

MH is a plague, there is no way to have 1 normal game.

Problem is these are TEAMS of mhers, usually 5 of them, mostly RO, TR, RS and MK.

You need to change the way of banning people, no more report but instant ban from
undercover admins playing dota...
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 21, 2014, 15:36
tsk101 is correct.

MH is a plague, there is no way to have 1 normal game.

Problem is these are TEAMS of mhers, usually 5 of them, mostly RO, TR, RS and MK.

You need to change the way of banning people, no more report but instant ban from
undercover admins playing dota...
Lmfao, instant ban from admins with no concrete proof or verification, that would be fucking chaos unleashed.

For instance not too long ago a ban unban mod permanently banned rockafella on one of his alternate accounts with reason "maphack", when infact he had a zeus in his team which ultied. (= enemy invisible units become visible)

They can make mistakes if they don't pay attention, even at verification, mistakes they themselves will regret, not to mention the abuse potential of admins/moderators not needing any proof to ban someone.

Such drastic "solutions" are good only in an ideal world. This is not one of them.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: retard on April 21, 2014, 16:30
And (+1) for the 100/200/300 games -> making LVL go up.
Why for 100/200/300 games ? That's a horrible ideea. There already is a problem when people have a big number of games, they inevitably rise to a psr which is far above their real level, simply because of their teammates. To further reward them would be absolutely ridicolous.
I thought you ment +1 psr for those that played 100/200/300 games, I forgot you guys were talking about that "lvl up" stuff and that you said +1 (meaning you support it) to it.

Dont get confused.

Having large number of games + good stats > beats > just having a good stats.
Above all, web stats shows the total number of games played by specific username, so -
Same user + numer of games + good stats.. = rly real pro.

Ofc, there are lots of Pro Noobs (like me  :D) who will get the psr tnx to other teammates. But that makes the game intresting  8)
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 21, 2014, 17:39
And (+1) for the 100/200/300 games -> making LVL go up.
Why for 100/200/300 games ? That's a horrible ideea. There already is a problem when people have a big number of games, they inevitably rise to a psr which is far above their real level, simply because of their teammates. To further reward them would be absolutely ridicolous.
I thought you ment +1 psr for those that played 100/200/300 games, I forgot you guys were talking about that "lvl up" stuff and that you said +1 (meaning you support it) to it.

Dont get confused.

Having large number of games + good stats > beats > just having a good stats.
Above all, web stats shows the total number of games played by specific username, so -
Same user + numer of games + good stats.. = rly real pro.

Ofc, there are lots of Pro Noobs (like me  :D) who will get the psr tnx to other teammates. But that makes the game intresting  8)
Actually it makes it horrible, bad players are painful to watch.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Sejanus on April 22, 2014, 13:26
CoMMoN1337

I don't think there is anything else that can be done.

As you c they always find a way for a new MH to work with gproxy:)

Just random bans could make em think twice before losing all the stats.
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Lagi on April 22, 2014, 14:36
Just random bans could make em think twice before losing all the stats.

Those who use mh, and all the time creating new acc after ban, and continue using mh, simply dont give a fuck about their stats...
Mb those hardware related bans that i mentioned a few times could make them think twice before activating mh, but as the staff said its hard/impossible to implement, but i will keep thinking about it :D
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: MyUberNick on April 22, 2014, 16:48
Just random bans could make em think twice before losing all the stats.

Those who use mh, and all the time creating new acc after ban, and continue using mh, simply dont give a fuck about their stats...
Mb those hardware related bans that i mentioned a few times could make them think twice before activating mh, ...
+0.5
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: psych0tron on April 22, 2014, 16:53
every time we speak about mh

cmon can we improve the AH system
Title: Re: New season (Stats reset)
Post by: Sejanus on April 25, 2014, 13:26
random bans for higher psr, as they think they are untouchable. not lows.