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Strategy Discussion Section => Strategy => Topic started by: efko.aqw on August 17, 2013, 17:15
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Guys, what you think about Battle Fury and Kelen's Dagger on Nerubian Weaver?
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My explenation for Bf would be: when y make perservance and y rape enemy team y can just make linken, boodstone or bf, and only bf from those items give dmg.
and for dager: dager is good for every hero but...
Desolaton on weaver = GG
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Desolaton on weaver = GG
y put it in slot 6 and ggwp.
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with linken weaver will have more hp, mana, agility, spell block. if we compare battle fury and linken, battle fury gives him only 40 dmg more
Spell block , mana , hp werent usefull cause he could kill the enemies with 3 hits.
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Desolaton on weaver = GG
y put it in slot 6 and ggwp.
Just played weaver with desolator xD it not stack on dota 1 but on dota 2 yes
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battle fury is just retard nab
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Desolaton on weaver = GG
y put it in slot 6 and ggwp.
Just played weaver with desolator xD it not stack on dota 1 but on dota 2 yes
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Desolaton on weaver = GG
y put it in slot 6 and ggwp.
Just played weaver with desolator xD it not stack on dota 1 but on dota 2 yes
you no say
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Desolaton on weaver = GG
y put it in slot 6 and ggwp.
You still play dota? :D brb NW bfury vladmir=GG :D splesh+lifesteal Its GG xD
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Desolaton on weaver = GG
y put it in slot 6 and ggwp.
You still play dota? :D brb NW bfury vladmir=GG :D splesh+lifesteal Its GG xD
if I know some buff place's it doesn't mean that I'm still playing dota
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and by the way ultimate pro weawer player with truestrike ON.. no geminate attacks and yet unavailible to get orbs total fail
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dagger looks good but bf and Point booster bad
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Sometime i make bf on venge
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hmm
know you are all pro doters , congratz.
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Fisrt item must be mom sec item will be force....yes force is good let me see just let i think next item is orchid its kinda gg also shadow is very important btw for lanaya is imba
If u want more inf... send Pm
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rofl, u lil' pathetic wannabe troll
i bet on my left ball i can rape any team with those "joke" items, pathetic li' pubber
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bla bla FREAK
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dagon if no one said it earlier
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with linken weaver will have more hp, mana, agility, spell block. if we compare battle fury and linken, battle fury gives him only 40 dmg more
Linken has Spell block every 20 seconds , what is SOOOOO important for weav, cuz of Bounty's Ulti as well as Slardar's and Stun's or other disable's enemy have in store for you , HP mana Agi of Linken is ok , but no biggy.
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teach us jimmy teach btw never play with jimmi and add BBC best dota playa
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actually linken blocks every 17 sec :) :)))
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And the sky is blue .
Point was it block spells , 3 seconds just made u smarter than me :P
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Weaver-Linkin sphere Desolator Phase Boots Buriza Manta Bkb Good bye
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Good bye
where you go ??
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Weaver-Linkin sphere Desolator Phase Boots Buriza Manta Bkb Good bye
With Phase itz like 0 collision all the time xD , its like runing from your shadow, ultimate hunter . and i quess desolator is to combo with 1 spell :) Manta for 3 spell . Wow , this sounds delicious :)
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Weaver-Linkin sphere Desolator Phase Boots Buriza Manta Bkb Good bye
With Phase itz like 0 collision all the time xD , its like runing from your shadow, ultimate hunter . and i quess desolator is to combo with 1 spell :) Manta for 3 spell . Wow , this sounds delicious :)
Btw with phase boots u can farm better from start then u can sell it
P.S Agov i just came back xD
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Weaver-Linkin sphere Desolator Phase Boots Buriza Manta Bkb Good bye
With Phase itz like 0 collision all the time xD , its like runing from your shadow, ultimate hunter . and i quess desolator is to combo with 1 spell :) Manta for 3 spell . Wow , this sounds delicious :)
Btw with phase boots u can farm better from start then u can sell it
P.S Agov i just came back xD
Desolator removes weaver passive, they don't stack. (This isn't dota 2)
Why would you want to build manta I have no clue, do you want more survivability ? Linken/bkb/invis/ulti isn't enough ? Your illusions can't chase with invis like your hero can, so if you use it while chasing (which you do almost 100% of the time with weaver) it's almost absolutely useless. For pushing ? There are better items for pushing than manta. Absolutely 0 logic in getting manta on weaver. Some agility or movespeed ? Please don't be idiotic.
Weaver doesn't have problems with farming without phase boots, unless YOU have problems with farming.
You can't crit while using phase boots (This isn't dota 2), and you would want to use phase boots while you are not in your invis (since you can't even be with phase effect and in your invis), so that's one of the most retarded ideas I've ever seen in my life, to get phase on weaver. (since you always want buriza, and if you want the phase boots to be faster when you are out of invis for things like running, when you don't hit, then you are a failure at dota if you are in trouble with weaver even after your invis ends)
If you get linken AND bkb (AND ESPECIALLY on weaver), go delete dota right now, go play something like solitaire, because you are too much of a pussy for dota.
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I WAS TALKING ABOUT STACKING DESOLATOR WITH " The Swarm "
Every 1.35 seconds, the beetle will attack its target, dealing damage and reducing the target's armor by 1 until the beetle is killed or the duration expires.
Manta is additional disable next to Linken , Used To Escape various situations and Give extra time to set up a new plan of attack .
Phase is Starting item Weaver-Linkin sphere Desolator Phase Boots Buriza Manta Bkb Good bye
With Phase itz like 0 collision all the time xD , its like runing from your shadow, ultimate hunter . and i quess desolator is to combo with 1 spell :) Manta for 3 spell . Wow , this sounds delicious :)
Btw with phase boots u can farm better from start then u can sell it
In Old version i would go for Tranq. Boots on Weaver , but with this modification on it, i would rather sell it later on and go BoT.
Commy try to help people learn usefull hero builds and gameplay in general, dont be so aggresive ^^
No one Doubt you are great DotA player and your knowledge in mechanics is unquestionable , just be a little bit more kind to us mortal people :*
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^ this, faith in humanity lost.
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"I WAS TALKING ABOUT STACKING DESOLATOR WITH " The Swarm ""
Weavers best spell is his passive, and you want to remove it by getting desolator to "stack" it with some stupid swarm that gets removed instantly from a few creep hits ?
"Manta is additional disable next to Linken , Used To Escape various situations and Give extra time to set up a new plan of attack ."
Weaver doesn't need extra help to escape, invis is enough, invis + ulti is enough, invis + ulti + linken is way more than enough, invis + ulti + linken + bkb is simply beginning to be stupid, invis + ulti + linken + bkb + manta is even more stupid, it's like saying riki should get lothar because it provides him with extra escape ability, cause after you attack it takes time to turn invis again and lothar has faster fade time, it is THAT stupid.
He just doesn't fucking need so many shit to help him survive since he ALREADY IS survivable. Instead of getting a million surviving items on already survivable heroes, try learning dota, it's most cost-efficient.
"Phase is Starting item: Btw with phase boots u can farm better from start then u can sell it "
You don't need to farm better, if you know how to farm you will farm just fine without phase, instead of getting random items then selling them to waste the gold, try learning dota and farming without them.
"Commy try to help people learn usefull hero builds and gameplay in general, dont be so aggresive ^^"
I am helping people, if you can't see past my "aggressiveness" to see the help I'm giving then you don't deserve it.
I find it hard to not be aggressive when you are encouraging everyone on this server to be pussies with your suggestions like bkb linken manta on weaver. I'm amazed you didn't suggest refresher too, to refresh the linken, to make him more survivable, like really, I actually am surprised you didn't say that. Maybe get a maphack too, that helps make you more survivable too, when you see enemy coming.
Just fucking learn to play. You will never learn to play if you get 1 million surviving items on already survivable heroes.
You want to walk around and autoattack safely cause of a million things protecting you, or do you want to humiliate opponents with style while being 1 hp and not even seriously playing ?
Which choice do you think is more fun ?
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Idk dude, its just a game
Its fun anyway :)
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Common should write a book with title "my life sucks so I have to correct everyone who thinks different in dota because its just a fun game to spend a time and my truth is the only truth"
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Common should write a book with title "my life sucks so I have to correct everyone who thinks different in dota because its just a fun game to spend a time and my truth is the only truth"
Your obsession is cute, please continue.
Idk dude, its just a game
Its fun anyway :)
Trust me, the last option is better.
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I WAS TALKING ABOUT STACKING DESOLATOR WITH " The Swarm "
Every 1.35 seconds, the beetle will attack its target, dealing damage and reducing the target's armor by 1 until the beetle is killed or the duration expires.
Wanna reduce their armor as hell? get medallion cheaper
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Common ok i know u r nolifer idc abt that u visit this forum 24/7 u dont have some other job??? :o and if u are too smart and if u think that u r dota god let's play take a team do w/e u want we will play 1v1 5v5 no matter just come if u think u know smth abt dota pm me or write here and please without funny words... ;)
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Common ok i know u r nolifer idc abt that u visit this forum 24/7 u dont have some other job??? :o and if u are too smart and if u think that u r dota god let's play take a team do w/e u want we will play 1v1 5v5 no matter just come if u think u know smth abt dota pm me or write here and please without funny words... ;)
is that a nerd rage?
*sniff* *sniff*
yeah, definetelly nerd rage.
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Common ok i know u r nolifer idc abt that u visit this forum 24/7 u dont have some other job??? :o and if u are too smart and if u think that u r dota god let's play take a team do w/e u want we will play 1v1 5v5 no matter just come if u think u know smth abt dota pm me or write here and please without funny words... ;)
I have better things to do than to waste my time humiliating some random noob such as yourself.
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I WAS TALKING ABOUT STACKING DESOLATOR WITH " The Swarm "
Every 1.35 seconds, the beetle will attack its target, dealing damage and reducing the target's armor by 1 until the beetle is killed or the duration expires.
Wanna reduce their armor as hell? get medallion cheaper
Additional stack , + + + for addon :D
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1. I dont know if the topic is "what not to build" or "what to build" for weaver, cause some of talk about items that are not good for weaver - like BF manta and other bullshit.
2. What you need to understand is, that he is a hero who need shitload of damage and than he is unstoppable. especially with passive skill of double attack, its more than great. so what you should build is crystalis->buriza, than crystalis->buriza and then again crystalis-> buriza. generally for high damage heroes like trax sniper weaver etc its worth to build 2-3 crystalis, since the chance for critical is stacking. its not a simple stack like 2x crystalis is 40%, it will result something around 32%, but still every 3rd hit is critical, and very big one :) Its good to have items that give hp and speed/skill. Linken is really good for weaver, also say since its not orb is also great. I like to build orchid too, since it will solve many problems - gives mana, damage, attack speed and damage amplification.
3. you need to understand that each game is unique, it has a different pick of heroes, etc. So you have to change your build every single time you play. if you play against 4 int, than surely you will need some kind of a spell counter - linken, orchid, bkb. but if you have 4 agi heroes, than you need disable and damage.. like orchid and crystalis..
Always try to chose the best counter items by game. If they build heart, get orchid to give more damage, if they get blade, get bkb.. etc.
4. Items that might work most of the games: critical - the best is if you have multiple criticals, orchid, say, assault linken. also for boots I would recommend to use treads most of the times, it gives great AS, which you need, and gives you also mana/str/agi boost - switch when you need.
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1. I dont know if the topic is "what not to build" or "what to build" for weaver, cause some of talk about items that are not good for weaver - like BF manta and other bullshit.
2. What you need to understand is, that he is a hero who need shitload of damage and than he is unstoppable. especially with passive skill of double attack, its more than great. so what you should build is crystalis->buriza, than crystalis->buriza and then again crystalis-> buriza. generally for high damage heroes like trax sniper weaver etc its worth to build 2-3 crystalis, since the chance for critical is stacking. its not a simple stack like 2x crystalis is 40%, it will result something around 32%, but still every 3rd hit is critical, and very big one :) Its good to have items that give hp and speed/skill. Linken is really good for weaver, also say since its not orb is also great. I like to build orchid too, since it will solve many problems - gives mana, damage, attack speed and damage amplification.
3. you need to understand that each game is unique, it has a different pick of heroes, etc. So you have to change your build every single time you play. if you play against 4 int, than surely you will need some kind of a spell counter - linken, orchid, bkb. but if you have 4 agi heroes, than you need disable and damage.. like orchid and crystalis..
Always try to chose the best counter items by game. If they build heart, get orchid to give more damage, if they get blade, get bkb.. etc.
4. Items that might work most of the games: critical - the best is if you have multiple criticals, orchid, say, assault linken. also for boots I would recommend to use treads most of the times, it gives great AS, which you need, and gives you also mana/str/agi boost - switch when you need.
BM
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depends on situation, but usually: medalion, pt, radiance, linken (if many nukers), bf, hot
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depends on situation, but usually: medalion, pt, radiance, linken (if many nukers), bf, hot
Radience is an absolutely terrible item on weaver, this is one of the trillion things noobs don't understand, 1000 more gold and you could get a complete buriza, and buriza is much easier to build than radience because of lower gold parts, not to mention infinitely better because you have very high chance of crits from your stupid op passive, with radience you sit with 3k gold like a retard waiting for your sacred relic while your team feeds all over the place because they suck and you aren't helping them cause you sit to farm, instead of already having crystalys and easily killing many noobs because of it.
Also one of the most important things when you play weaver is to keep your opponents guessing, you used sukuchi, they won't always have detection because they are noobs, when you use sukuchi you want to make them wonder, did he go back ? is he going in ? with radience you throw that out the window because the passive dps from it shows when you are near, unless you turn it off, but then why did you buy a radience if you want to turn it off, idiot.
Stop thinking of items on paper, radience looks great on paper, but it takes too long to farm and does very little, unless you are clearly winning fights all the time in which case any item works no matter how stupid, radience is just impractical and takes too long to get. Your time is better spent killing noobs with crystalys than waiting more gold for a silly radience.
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yes, if you are playing noob games with noobs, they can usually feed enemies until you get fed :)
radiance is very good in combo with swarm, if you buy radi soon
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Common is so big mouthed knows everything but
AP 1550 ++++ ++ ++++ ++
high games, I tell you ;) :D
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Noob common radiance u can ez get radi on 10 min max if u go with 3lane and u farm like hell +65 dmg ftw u so noob..
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Noob common radiance u can ez get radi on 10 min max if u go with 3lane and u farm like hell +65 dmg ftw u so noob..
learn dota.
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Stfu they unvouch u on DT coz for low skill :P
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Stfu they unvouch u on DT coz for low skill :P
idk what youre talking about, idk whats DT and i dun know your language
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this frozen walk so good player just played a game with like 5/15 pl ruining on purpose as captain and crying =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Everyone should know, the best item for weaver is necro 3, as it is for all heroes, since necro 3 is the best item in the game, obviously.
Glad to chat.