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Strategy Discussion Section => Strategy => Topic started by: PhyxiuS on June 22, 2013, 12:30
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Storm Build
First item orchid ..
if u want look my gameplay
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5117360
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thats too mainstream, get like mjolnir on storm and rape, and then brag about it
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if u want look my gameplay
No.
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thats too mainstream, get like mjolnir on storm and rape, and then brag about it
agree,go manta desolator lothars buriza
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yeah deso , buriza is good items for that
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''not bad for 48min storm spirit 97 cs''
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''not bad for 48min storm spirit 97 cs''
it is only for item build not good game :)
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/225060706
my core puck with buriza
np,i got this xD
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/225060706
my core puck with buriza
np,i got this xD
+1 like it ;)
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thats too mainstream, get like mjolnir on storm and rape, and then brag about it
it is only one gameplay not good game in starter game first item orchid..
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Storm Build
First item orchid ..
if u want look my gameplay
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5117360
I lol'd, really.
Storm build: Orchid - dot - end - ty 4 reading - gg wp cya ;D
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Storm Build
First item orchid ..
if u want look my gameplay
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5117360
I lol'd, really.
i would like to thank you :)
Storm build: Orchid - dot - end - ty 4 reading - gg wp cya ;D
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Dont get the point of the post but ok...
orchid as first item is not so wise but i guess u can rush the oblivions and farm which i think u are doing...
i see u having orchid linken and bs and treds wht isnt so smart either...if u make bs make sure u rush the arcanes then disemble to bs fast so u have it first (stack charges and good reg+god hp and mp) before orchid which i wouldnt buy anyways...linken is solid item for storm cant say nothing...but if u are making linken then there is kinda no need for bs(or esp orchid unlles u rly need to neutralize someone like warlock and u need to do it in order to win the fights) better spend the money on some other item like hex shiva if u are playing like that...
Storm is a imba hero esp for public newbie games...
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omg orchid bad as first item? men reg imba!
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How did you manage to die 6 times with only roar to stop you and no silences ?
How did you manage to have 97 cs in 50 minutes when you should have 100 cs in 15 minutes max ?
On storm you should have 100 cs in min 10 if i'm being honest, you couldn't even get those in 50 minutes.
I suggest you stop trying a "build" over other "builds" (because that is a stupid flawed noob concept, since the best "build" you can go for is very dependant on particular game situations, so it doesn't matter what you decide on using, sometimes something else is needed) and try learning how to lasthit first.
What you noobs seem to never understand (among many other things) is that you are trying to learn dota incorrectly.Instead of trying to figure out items, you should start with the basics, which all of you still don't know them, yes absolutely all of you, and only then move on to the next steps.
You try to learn how to run without learning how to walk.
SOME BASICS:
Minimap, a square thing located in your left bottom corner, it's not there to decorate your stupid screen, it's there to help you, LOOK AT IT, ALWAYS, NOT ONCE EVERY GAME, ALWAYS. (start looking at it every 30 seconds, then start looking at it every 20 seconds, then start looking at it every 10 seconds, then start looking at it every 5 seconds)
This is one of the most important, which no one on this server gets. (no one on this server looks at the minimap every 5 seconds, of that i am sure, and most likely no one here watches it even once every 10 seconds)
The more aware you are of all things going on in the game, the easier everything is. It's simple, why aren't you learning ? Instead you choose to say "WTF NO SS, FUCKING NOOB LEARN TO SS", when infact, it is you who are the gigantic noob, which cannot even take a look at the minimap every once in a while to avoid dying like a moron.
Lasthitting, you are fucking horrible at it, all of you. Learn it, stop fucking randomly cluelessly hitting, you just ruin several of your own lasthits by doing that. Every single time you miss a creep you should slap yourself, maybe then you will learn.
Staying alive. You can't seem to fucking stay alive can you, i got a suggestion, maybe stop fucking staying in a lane if you are alone there and there are 4 guys preparing to push ? You will most likely die. No one is coming and there is nothing to do there ? Then, go on another lane and try to do something there, when you can't do something somewhere, go elsewhere, don't just fucking sit there doing nothing, every single second counts. Or maybe stop fucking going in a lane to lasthit a stupid creep alone with 2 heroes capable of easily killing you ? Ye i know, very complex advice, but you are still dying like this even though most of you think you know this.
Doing something always. Something other than dying. Like moving to a place when there will obviously happen something, for instance in a lane where 4 people push instead of sitting alone in the back of a lane already pushed doing nothing.
Understanding that if you are 1 hp and have no mana, then you should go back unless you know what you are doing (which you clearly don't), not dance back and forward watching your team die, then dying also because you got caught fucking sitting there instead of going back when you can't do anything. You can watch them die while you are going back safely, there is no reason for you to die if you can't help.
Understanding that if it's a fight, you need to USE YOUR FUCKING SPELLS.
Stop fucking waiting for your dream echoslam that you see in your lil stupid youtube videos, and USE IT, because most of the time you won't be able to do it and you will lose the fight because of your stupid indecisiveness. The most relevant thing when there is a fight is to DECIDE on something and STICKING to it unless you have an opportunity to change your mind, which happens very rarely, you are better off going all in or going all out from the start in fights, especially in pubs.
Stop having a permanent braindelay. React faster. Move faster. Do things faster. Faster. Faster. FASTER.
You see someone going on an ally and you are an es in range to stun ? Hmmmmmmmm what should i do ... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... i could try to block them from chasing him ... hmmm or i could just stun ... hmmmmmmmmmmm ... ok i stun, oh wait he is dead already. Proceed to type "sry lag". Well done.
Stop being so fucking greedy all the time, almost every single game in all the years i've played here, when a team gets an advantage, that team tries more than they can actually do, for absolutely no reason, and throws away the advantage they had. Just because the enemy team has a lancer doesn't mean you have to end in minute 10.
Be in important places early, don't come there late. Tier 2 mid tower is being pushed ? You should defend that if you can, if you can defend it, then you should be there early. It's unacceptable to be stuck on the other side of the map with no tp scroll, even if you plan on pushing while they push, you should always have the option to come back, because sometimes there are chances of picking people off even if you push a tier 2 yourself. Killing them then pushing it is better than just pushing it. Roshan is being tried ? If you can stop it, be in position to stop it, don't go when they already have the aegis.
I don't have time to spill obvious shit any longer, maybe some other time i'll continue if i have the patience, that is doubtful however.
In ending i'll add this, the biggest mistake you can make in dota is thinking you know it all, you don't know shit.
I see you noobs laughing all the time at people going some items which aren't suggested in your retarded noob guides, beyond fucking hilarious. You can't even use your own brain and judge why they made it, you just say "lol x item on x hero".
Get a clue or two.
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I Don't agree with you Common in some points, I have my own gaming performance.
Ganking will be performed while playing any role, but if you focus ganking, the picture changes a little. You need some extra restoration power, damage output and trapping/locking mechanisms.
Ganker SS Differential:
The Full-Time Ganker can't breath, this is the truth. You have to kill the heroes and use the free area/time the gank created to advance your team's game state, while recovering for the next gank. If you made a successful gank but allowed the enemy team some recovery time, your gank wasn't fully exploited. The after-gank is crucial. If you simply killed a hero and then gone to your fountain as fast as you could you simply lost the short easy-push time and the opportunity to bring towers down, not to mention possible gank streaks.
Bottle: Great HP/Mana regen and you can sell it for 300 after you think it's not scaling anymore.
This build focuses less on regen/HP/Mana bonus, when comparing Linken's to BS, but gives a passive protection against active skills, that goes from Disables to most Mana Burning skills.
If the enemies has got, let's say, only vengeful with a dangerous targeted magic, Linken's will be unnecessary. Bloodstone, after the introduction of the 4min cooldown on buy-back, has been indirectly buffed.
Still, it really needs the charges. Get this if you are feeding on an unlucky hero or if you know you won't die too much.
After Orchid got remade into a cheaper item, it is now one of the most cost efficient items in the game, specially now @6.75 that Soul Burn was buffed to 30%. This core allows you to get an Arcane Boots while farming your bloodstone, and this fact actually makes us finish Orchid even before BS itself.
Going for Orchid before BloodStone is somewhat damage oriented, so it's easier to actually get kills in the mid-game, while also being easier to get ourselves killed. If you still have no confidence in your map awareness or get too nervous when getting ganked and screw up, consider getting one oblivion staff and then build your full BS before you get your Orchid.
If you are facing players that are harassing you or you are being somewhat damaged on fights, you may go ahead and buy, as your first two items, Boots of Speed and Ring of Health, but this cripples your early-mid mana regeneration. If you want to do this, make sure you are maximizing your Overload before the other two skills, to reduce your mana use.
Sometimes you need to change these, but everything depends on your enemy.
Jean, Love and Peace.
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Im had it with u nab calling all other players noobs,played 4xtimes agianst u and u lost all fucking 4 times i dont get it wht drugs are u taking to bust your ego or u are yust a no lifer that comes here to be 8) 8) 8) ???? u mybe know to play dota but u are far away for from being a pro + your ego is to big for your mid skills...
Who the fuck even gives a shit about items any good player makes item for the game needs...
If u cant replay to a topic with friendly adivce dont even replay...every fucking your replay starts with u being above everyone and then ur divine maggot explanation...
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I Don't agree with you Common in some points, I have my own gaming performance.
Ganking will be performed while playing any role, but if you focus ganking, the picture changes a little. You need some extra restoration power, damage output and trapping/locking mechanisms.
Ganker SS Differential:
The Full-Time Ganker can't breath, this is the truth. You have to kill the heroes and use the free area/time the gank created to advance your team's game state, while recovering for the next gank. If you made a successful gank but allowed the enemy team some recovery time, your gank wasn't fully exploited. The after-gank is crucial. If you simply killed a hero and then gone to your fountain as fast as you could you simply lost the short easy-push time and the opportunity to bring towers down, not to mention possible gank streaks.
Bottle: Great HP/Mana regen and you can sell it for 300 after you think it's not scaling anymore.
This build focuses less on regen/HP/Mana bonus, when comparing Linken's to BS, but gives a passive protection against active skills, that goes from Disables to most Mana Burning skills.
If the enemies has got, let's say, only vengeful with a dangerous targeted magic, Linken's will be unnecessary. Bloodstone, after the introduction of the 4min cooldown on buy-back, has been indirectly buffed.
Still, it really needs the charges. Get this if you are feeding on an unlucky hero or if you know you won't die too much.
After Orchid got remade into a cheaper item, it is now one of the most cost efficient items in the game, specially now @6.75 that Soul Burn was buffed to 30%. This core allows you to get an Arcane Boots while farming your bloodstone, and this fact actually makes us finish Orchid even before BS itself.
Going for Orchid before BloodStone is somewhat damage oriented, so it's easier to actually get kills in the mid-game, while also being easier to get ourselves killed. If you still have no confidence in your map awareness or get too nervous when getting ganked and screw up, consider getting one oblivion staff and then build your full BS before you get your Orchid.
If you are facing players that are harassing you or you are being somewhat damaged on fights, you may go ahead and buy, as your first two items, Boots of Speed and Ring of Health, but this cripples your early-mid mana regeneration. If you want to do this, make sure you are maximizing your Overload before the other two skills, to reduce your mana use.
Sometimes you need to change these, but everything depends on your enemy.
Jean, Love and Peace.
+1 like it is true. :)
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gj nice items xdd +1
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On storm you should have 100 cs in min 10 if i'm being honest, you couldn't even get those in 50 minutes.
Ideal is 82 cs in 10 min.
20x4 + 2 catapults
Common>dota
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have you ever seen pro player get all lane creep kills till 10min? if you have free farm lane then it's easy.
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THis is wht i dont get he is playing a pub game for his fun and some of u trolls are hunting him down coz he have low cs...He probably farmed good 50 creaps at the begging and later didnt farmed becouse he saw they cant do shit to him so the man decided to fight them as much as posibru before the game finishes i dont see nothing bad in that in fact he had more fun then 90%of u public farming whores... :-X
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On storm you should have 100 cs in min 10 if i'm being honest, you couldn't even get those in 50 minutes.
Ideal is 82 cs in 10 min.
20x4 + 2 catapults
Common>dota
Tp scroll cooldown is 65 seconds, you can tp to other lanes kill people and get the cs there also after finishing up the cs in your lane.
The brain of an ant > the brain of feedmare.
jean XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Focus ganking is one of the worst possible strats you can go for however, especially as a clueless noob such as yourself. XD
Why ? Well, not even mentioning the fact that if you fail even once and waste your time, then your mega ganking hero will be so far behind he wont do shit later.
Ok i mentioned it, but the main reason is that, no matter how good you are, (and that's not the problem in question here, since you are absolutely horrible), if the enemy anticipates you, you wont do shit. You would just be wasting valuable time doing nothing.
When the enemy knows what you are about to do, then you might aswell not do it.
When you are in the line of fire, you are vulnerable. They can counter-gank, they can avoid you, they can do whatever they want.
If you want to win a game you must keep your opponent guessing or atleast not let him know what you are doing so blatantly. (granted, you noobs wouldn't realise it even if someone would kill you in 2 seconds, so what the hell, everything works)
If you do the same thing over and over again, they will eventually learn what you are doing and stop you from doing it. (like permanently ganking for instance, if you keep doing it they will just go 5 when you do it, bait with one and then you are fucked)
Stop being predictable, keep your opponent guessing and wondering what you will do next.
Thanks for making me add another basic, jean. Yours supports is always welcomes.
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The fuck just happened, reverse those quotes. XD
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ss is mid hero,he need to gang/roam after lvl6 + rune control before so common the mega pro player can farm mid while picking runes and roaming np
as nghtmare sayed,he farms 100 creeps in 10 mins out of 82
only the hard cary needs to take all lh on safe lane 15-20 mins just farmin like chinese then joining team fights and back to farm
and storm farm-ability is rly insane in mid game
get a 20-22 mins hex gg by winning ur mid and roaming a little
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phuthai how stupid can you be to actually thing that Dota has 1 lane? Common mentioned that a hero can farm 100 creeps in a game , which doesn't mean he will stay whole game in one lane (to explain your braindamaged problem about not being able to farm 100 cs in 10 min).
Spawns and Time
Most of the intermediate players should know that creep waves spawn every 30s, neutral creeps spawn every 1min, trees spawn every 5mins and etc. Making use of spawn times to improve your gameplay.
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ss is mid hero,he need to gang/roam after lvl6 + rune control before so common the mega pro player can farm mid while picking runes and roaming np
as nghtmare sayed,he farms 100 creeps in 10 mins out of 82
only the hard cary needs to take all lh on safe lane 15-20 mins just farmin like chinese then joining team fights and back to farm
and storm farm-ability is rly insane in mid game
get a 20-22 mins hex gg by winning ur mid and roaming a little
Yeah good dude i say to orchid in starter game
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On storm you should have 100 cs in min 10 if i'm being honest, you couldn't even get those in 50 minutes.
Ideal is 82 cs in 10 min.
20x4 + 2 catapults
Common>dota
Tp scroll cooldown is 65 seconds, you can tp to other lanes kill people and get the cs there also after finishing up the cs in your lane.
The brain of an ant > the brain of feedmare.
Lol man, stop tring to defense yourself in such ridiculous situation. You say to tp other lane, steal creeps from carry, but u still wont have 100cs, cuz u lose mid lane creeps. You can mby do it if u play 1v0 game, i wont even bother to tell u about a think called deny, which makes you have much lesser cs if opponent is at least mid skilled.
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phuthai how stupid can you be to actually thing that Dota has 1 lane? Common mentioned that a hero can farm 100 creeps in a game , which doesn't mean he will stay whole game in one lane (to explain your braindamaged problem about not being able to farm 100 cs in 10 min).
Spawns and Time
Most of the intermediate players should know that creep waves spawn every 30s, neutral creeps spawn every 1min, trees spawn every 5mins and etc. Making use of spawn times to improve your gameplay.
jean,today is not my day to care about ur opinion
gtfo u think ure black or loda,dendi? even they miss lh
not count that going on other lane and tryng to take lh from others 2-3 from that lane wont be dat easy
if u are that good as u say why u dont play at pros
pls bitch
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Actually I've played in more competitive games than your miserable pub dota life. You're one poor copycat creature who is trying hard to show something. I never really played with you that cartoon Dota 2 game but from the games that I've played with you here you sucked pretty much.
On topic:
Just to make this 100 cs in 10 min clear, I've seen players doing that and one of them is Tito. He was even close in getting the same amount of denies. And yeah, IT IS POSSIBLE.
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Spawns and Time
Most of the intermediate players should know that creep waves spawn every 30s, neutral creeps spawn every 1min, trees spawn every 5mins and etc. Making use of spawn times to improve your gameplay.
False! Trees doesn't spawn every 5 mins but on every 5 mins mark :P
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Another storm gameplay with Starter orchid Malevolence
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5117733
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You never got a bkb or linken in any of these, if someone wanted to focus you, you wouldn't do anything.
Orchid is nice and all, but if you don't have a bkb or linken with it, you might aswell not have it.
I can demonstrate what i mean later, and you can post the replay of our game against each other here for the discussions sake.
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*w8ing divide to deny the 100 cs 10 min theory*
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You never got a bkb or linken in any of these, if someone wanted to focus you, you wouldn't do anything.
Orchid is nice and all, but if you don't have a bkb or linken with it, you might aswell not have it.
I can demonstrate what i mean later, and you can post the replay of our game against each other here for the discussions sake.
dude look i say in the 'starter game' with orchid cause of super mega ganks.
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You never got a bkb or linken in any of these, if someone wanted to focus you, you wouldn't do anything.
Orchid is nice and all, but if you don't have a bkb or linken with it, you might aswell not have it.
I can demonstrate what i mean later, and you can post the replay of our game against each other here for the discussions sake.
dude look i say in the 'starter game' with orchid cause of super mega ganks.
I thought by 'starter game' you ment 'in the game that started' not 'early game'.
Orchid on storm for early is very common. Most of the time a good way to go.
*w8ing divide to deny the 100 cs 10 min theory*
He can't deny the "Theory" because it's not a theory at all, it's a fact.
If you want theory, you can have 164 cs in minute 10, with something like furion for instance, by continously using a bought tp and your tp skill, and going to a different lane after you killed your lane creeps, but 164 cs can't be done because around min 0-3 you wont kill the wave fast enough and few of the other creeps would die on the other lane, unless you have the help of a teammate which would preserve them by cutting their normal path and keeping them alive, in which case 164 cs in minute 10 is do-able, no longer theory, so it's a fact aswell.
Provided you can get your lvl 6 before minute 10 (which is obviously the case), you can get even more than 164 cs in 10 minutes, by using the ulti at a good time to lasthit creeps from the third wave aswell.
And no, none of this is theory, all facts.
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y,ward enemy base use ulti kill creeps before they spawn
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If you don't have anything constructive to say, then you might aswell not say it.
Here on lagabuse.com we value constructive discussions which benefit us all, and all users strive for them, continously.
Isn't that right jeandarc ?
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y,ward enemy base use ulti kill creeps before they spawn
Funny shit, I almost smiled.
If you don't have anything constructive to say, then you might aswell not say it.
Here on lagabuse.com we value constructive discussions which benefit us all, and all users strive for them, continously.
Isn't that right jeandarc ?
Exactly.
If you ask me, DOTA is all about farming. The Better farmers always win towards the end.
Farming is an Art.
Rule # 1. Avoid getting Hit by enemy HEROS or CREEPS.
Rule # 2. Never ever Get Killed while CREEPING.
Creeping with Melee HEROS:
Hit creep whos HP gets into Red.
Give each enemy creep atleast 1 Hit and get back to safe distance and your level's will increase normally.
When against Range heros; Stand exactly opposed to them with creeps in between, its the best way to avoid getting hit by them.
Sometimes heros get uncontrolled and get sucked into the creeps, so keep pressing H (Hold Position) or S (Stop Last Action) to keep them under control.
BEST way to Play dota is use your Level's with keys rather than MOUSE.
- Against 2 Range Heros
Don't Get Too Cocky
- Against 1 Range,
Creep Normally
- Against 1 or 2 melee Heros
Creep Fearlessly hit enemy HERO'S when ever you get chance and then get back to safety. USE MANA WISELY
I always keep on moving my heros in too and for keeps me active and saves me from enemy's hits and Level's and HIT Creeps with low HP *
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You never got a bkb or linken in any of these, if someone wanted to focus you, you wouldn't do anything.
Orchid is nice and all, but if you don't have a bkb or linken with it, you might aswell not have it.
I can demonstrate what i mean later, and you can post the replay of our game against each other here for the discussions sake.
dude look i say in the 'starter game' with orchid cause of super mega ganks.
I thought by 'starter game' you ment 'in the game that started' not 'early game'.
Orchid on storm for early is very common. Most of the time a good way to go.
*w8ing divide to deny the 100 cs 10 min theory*
He can't deny the "Theory" because it's not a theory at all, it's a fact.
If you want theory, you can have 164 cs in minute 10, with something like furion for instance, by continously using a bought tp and your tp skill, and going to a different lane after you killed your lane creeps, but 164 cs can't be done because around min 0-3 you wont kill the wave fast enough and few of the other creeps would die on the other lane, unless you have the help of a teammate which would preserve them by cutting their normal path and keeping them alive, in which case 164 cs in minute 10 is do-able, no longer theory, so it's a fact aswell.
Provided you can get your lvl 6 before minute 10 (which is obviously the case), you can get even more than 164 cs in 10 minutes, by using the ulti at a good time to lasthit creeps from the third wave aswell.
And no, none of this is theory, all facts.
ok, its a fact,
can you get 100 cs in 10 mins mid with storm in a public match? or can anyone on this forum do that?
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we are talking about a dota 5v5 game where you can move on other lanes
getting 100 cs in 10 min:
in a single lane - impossible
moving on other lanes and farming - its been done by many people that i've obsed game
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we are talking about a dota 5v5 game where you can move on other lanes
getting 100 cs in 10 min:
in a single lane - impossible
moving on other lanes and farming - its been done by many people that i've obsed game
I meant that, but starting as solo mid
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ofc, it's ez
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ofc, it's ez
go and make replay,
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why would he show his tactic to the others?
"never tell to anyone what you know", remember?
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you don't need any replay proof, just use your brain, lasthit everything in your lane, and occasionally tp to other lanes after you clear your creepwave on your lane, around 5 tps should do it
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you don't need any replay proof, just use your brain, lasthit everything in your lane, and occasionally tp to other lanes after you clear your creepwave on your lane, around 5 tps should do it
so you cant make any mistakes, assume that your opponent on mid is going afk and that other lane heroes will let you all the farm, that is god damn ideal situation and will happen never
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Step 1, dont make any mistake. Easy.
Step 2, enemy in lane ? Who cares, lasthit everything anyway, what is the problem ? Easy.
Step 3, occasionally tp to other lanes and lasthit everything there also after u lasthitted everything in your lane. what is the problem ? Easy.
And that's all, simple. It's all up to you.
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Step 1, dont make any mistake. Easy.
Step 2, enemy in lane ? Who cares, lasthit everything anyway, what is the problem ? Easy.
Step 3, occasionally tp to other lanes and lasthit everything there also after u lasthitted everything in your lane. what is the problem ? Easy.
And that's all, simple. It's all up to you.
you need to have really newbie enemy for that to happen
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once i bought refresher to refresh my coolness !
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Well if you start to think "this can happen, that can happen" than I dunno if there's something possible that can be done in dota. Anything can happen, the enemy team can go 5 men push mid and fuck everything.
The fact is that 100 creeps can be farmed in 10 min and there's no doubt about that. For 10 min you'll be able to kill 87 creeps on your lane and by tping/ganking on other lanes I'm more than sure you can get 20+ creeps depending on the situation you'll face on the other lanes.
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Well if you start to think "this can happen, that can happen" than I dunno if there's something possible that can be done in dota. Anything can happen, the enemy team can go 5 men push mid and fuck everything.
The fact is that 100 creeps can be farmed in 10 min and there's no doubt about that. For 10 min you'll be able to kill 87 creeps on your lane and by tping/ganking on other lanes I'm more than sure you can get 20+ creeps depending on the situation you'll face on the other lanes.
y, technically you can farm 100 creeps in 10 mins but you need to have ideal situation. I am not saying that it is not possible but in this particular game with storm, I think not. Also it is a public game, you cant expect side lanes will understand that you are going to farm the fuck out of that and they can also interfere. 100 creeps in 10 mins requires decent amount of skill so I think it is unfair to ask that from random pub player.
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If u play a cm game and u send storm mid u cant use that much tp to creep lanes as a core of the tactic to farm max, it is ussefull and a player shoud be allways aware of that ,but that is just a brach on a tree ...Much effective,safer and a better way should be farming woods,From sentinel u can allways stack second neutral camp(by the time ur lvl 7 u can stack it 2-3 times with no big problems and if u have good support on bot 3 lane he can make u so much stacks in the woods witch u can farm very soon and very easy(buy smoke),
Basiclly thats my tactic with storm...go mid farm as much as i can,get exp and dont risk to much because the most important thing of all is not to die.After lvl 7 u can go farm your neutral stacks.After that ul probably be the biggest lvl,+2 for sure and u havent been missing for a long time,u can kill those neutrals in 1-2 min...Thats a good start because its not a thing that works only in ideal situations and u manage to go throug early game safe and feeded.
Items: i support orchind(if u farm it fast) and i think after u buy it u shouldnt be to much focused on farm because u are the best hero to be with in your team and u can kill efective,u are able and strong enough to entertain the enemy team for a good amount of time while the other carry is farming with so much less presure and easier.Just stick with your team and carry the mid game on your back.Sometimes u rape them sometimes u dont but still no mather how it goes ur allways healthy for the team coz u give carry space and time to farm,and u help others to overcome teamfights,map control,taking towers and so on.
Thats my view for fast orchid.
This common is 100% idiot,he probably plays ok but u will never be pro because your ego doesnt let u see things that are basics of pro dota players.
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you are wrong in so many ways... learn dota plz
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Everybody knows ur a noob and a troll,say something normal or go listen to linkin park or smthng like that
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What's wrong with linken park ?
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What's wrong with linken park ?
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-r3o3Vpr80ZxGFLelnm4w_DuO3TNGzUrouXqUcggOLh0jix2X1Q
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eye of skady for storm is epic
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eye of skady for storm is epic
i will try this xD
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eye of skady for storm is epic
i will try this xD
What do u think about my fast orchid gameplay opinion?
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eye of skady for storm is epic
i will try this xD
What do u think about my fast orchid gameplay opinion?
it is true +1 like
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Thats how u solo rape with storm and still loose :D
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5126133
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Thats how u solo rape with storm and still loose :D
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5126133
XD Funny
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hex
skadi
linken
manta
bloodstone
bot
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hex
skadi
linken
manta
bloodstone
bot
remove skadi, add desolator
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(http://media.playdota.com/hero/86/icon.gif)(http://media.playdota.com/items/107/icon.jpg)(http://media.playdota.com/items/106/icon.jpg)
Best build to make Storm wreck shit. Insane (though unreliable) DPS, tested.
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(http://media.playdota.com/hero/86/icon.gif)(http://media.playdota.com/items/107/icon.jpg)(http://media.playdota.com/items/106/icon.jpg)
Best build to make Storm wreck shit. Insane (though unreliable) DPS, tested.
remove band, add lothar
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Why refresher? What it helps with?
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Why refresher? What it helps with?
So u can refresh ur ulty? It makes insane dmg with scepter.
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lol u nub, agha doubles the speed of storm's ulti!
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(http://media.playdota.com/hero/86/icon.gif)(http://media.playdota.com/items/107/icon.jpg)(http://media.playdota.com/items/106/icon.jpg)
Best build to make Storm wreck shit. Insane (though unreliable) DPS, tested.
remove band, add lothar
Remove what?