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pfff i don't remember the link of the game...btw,there was a maiden with basher,ftw! XD
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skywrath with aghanim and krobe with aghanim !! :D
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your level of dota knowledge is to low to understand the greatness of that builds
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basher on cm is just awesome...
enemies will get perma bashed from your ulti, just need agha
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too :))
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too
(http://bloggerjet.com/img/a-noob-you-are.jpg)
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too :))
Basher does not stack with headshot. Nice try.
I actually did battlefury Windrunner a couple times long long ago in the past. People flamed me into oblivion, but I didn't care, I had my damage, mana regen and I killed stuff, so I was happy :P
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too :))
Basher does not stack with headshot. Nice try.
You sure about this? Im pretty sure it worked some versions ago, spell itself didn't change too much..
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too :))
Basher does not stack with headshot. Nice try.
You sure about this? Im pretty sure it worked some versions ago, spell itself didn't change too much..
Yee, it was like u random normalshot, headshot or bashshot
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too
(http://bloggerjet.com/img/a-noob-you-are.jpg)
haahhahah +1
Yoda was talking with will i am and yoda said to him
Yoda : You are who?
Will responded
Will : Will i am :D:D::DD:
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too :))
Basher does not stack with headshot. Nice try.
You sure about this? Im pretty sure it worked some versions ago, spell itself didn't change too much..
Quite sure. Why, do you think, 4 bashers is not core on troll anymore? Ice recoded basher. It's now triggered, and doesn't use PRD anymore (just like Greater bash). When you proc basher bash, it grants you 100% bash ability for 1 hit, then removes it. Unfortunately, trigger also detects other bashes, and If you already have other bash passive, you just don't get those procs. Aaaaaaand, surprise surprise, headshot IS 40% bash with never-miss flag (just like MKB provides 100% never-miss 0x crit).
Back in v6.58 days, there used to be quite funny bug related to that mechanic. If you learned (meaning, first level) your hero's innate bash AFTER buying basher, it would mistakenly remove wrong passive, leaving you with 100% bash from basher :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqtGOxJHRUU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqtGOxJHRUU)
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dammit. i thought u are wrong my friend :/
must be personal visual deception under influence of realising that my ass is owned by snip with f***ng basher
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weird item build but can be funny and work quite good is basher on sniper XD....people range with battlefury are quite funny guys too :))
ur funny guy. WR with bf gg ::)
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When im bored I make 6x refresher for tinker in pub games :)
No im kidding I make 6x Divanes
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dammit. i thought u are wrong my friend :/
must be personal visual deception under influence of realising that my ass is owned by snip with f***ng basher
Now that I checked, basher actualy does't explicitly mention sniper, but that's plain incoherent. I though it's true afar all bashes, no exceptio, but seems that I'll need to test it. You learn something new every day.
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Ok, my apologies. Apparently "Does not stack with other bash passives" tooltip is utter bulshit.
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Ok, my apologies. Apparently "Does not stack with other bash passives" tooltip is utter bulshit.
since snipers minibash has biggest % to proc, its probably considered as "bash actives" for that matter. :P
now all gogoggogo and make bash on snip :P
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pfff i don't remember the link of the game...btw,there was a maiden with basher,ftw! XD
Name of the topic made me laugh
I saw traxes iwth dagon , es with battlefury and dagon ... you can find anything there
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geomancer with diff, es with lothar :)
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shaker with basher...
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geomancer with diff, es with lothar :)
LOL ES WITH LOTHAR WTF NEVER SEEN WORSE... dude wake up
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mort with refresh
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i was thinking that bash and ministun are 2 different things..not sure. ah another thing..fury stacks with hero aoe damage passives? i've seen lot of people do fury on sven..does it double aoe? i usually do mordiggean on sven,for life attackspeed and osme damage..but i've seen imba sven with fury too,so i was wondering if it was just the base damage of the fury or passive of sven + clave..
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mort with refresh
Just epic...
Btw es with fury and cuirass is very good item (for me), if you own in a game so hard and manage to make it after ofc dagger and agha. Most items are good base on who you have against and how good is your team but the best build is to make items which help team fights.
All are possible if you own hard or get owned hard :P
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Trax with BloodStone . . . ???
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as i know cleave effect just increases as you buy more battlefury, if u have %65 cleave with magnus, as you buy a bf it is 65+35 %100 cleave, dunno about above %100 cleave it should be %100 at max
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i saw pugna with refresher ;D
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geomancer with diff, es with lothar :)
LOL ES WITH LOTHAR WTF NEVER SEEN WORSE... dude wake up
not me ofc, I was suprised as you are when they made it :/
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geomancer with diff, es with lothar :)
LOL ES WITH LOTHAR WTF NEVER SEEN WORSE... dude wake up
wtf es with lothar is new meta fyi
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i saw pugna with refresher ;D
not sure if double ward is working but if it does, why not?
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So if windrunner makes basher and uses ulti. How often targert will be stunned?
If she makes S&Y + Sange how often will targert be maimed when she uses ulti? Does lesser main and greated maim combine?
I like wierd item builds... makes game more interesting....would love to see game where heroes are not allowed to make standard builds. :o
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So if windrunner makes basher and uses ulti. How often targert will be stunned?
If she makes S&Y + Sange how often will targert be maimed when she uses ulti? Does lesser main and greated maim combine?
I like wierd item builds... makes game more interesting....would love to see game where heroes are not allowed to make standard builds. :o
i suggest you find your answer >here< (http://www.playdota.com/mechanics [/url) or watch thru mythbuster (http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/board,79.50.html[/url) episodes. u will find all u need to know about orb effects & cleave stacks (@ the_feeder )
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So if windrunner makes basher and uses ulti. How often targert will be stunned?
If she makes S&Y + Sange how often will targert be maimed when she uses ulti? Does lesser main and greated maim combine?
I like wierd item builds... makes game more interesting....would love to see game where heroes are not allowed to make standard builds. :o
i suggest you find your answer >here< (http://www.playdota.com/mechanics[/url) or watch thru mythbuster (http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/board,79.50.html[/url) episodes. u will find all u need to know about orb effects & cleave stacks (@ the_feeder )
Thanks (so you dont know ;D)
Will do when I get the time and/or have will to watch it all ;)
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So if windrunner makes basher and uses ulti. How often targert will be stunned?
If she makes S&Y + Sange how often will targert be maimed when she uses ulti? Does lesser main and greated maim combine?
I like wierd item builds... makes game more interesting....would love to see game where heroes are not allowed to make standard builds. :o
i suggest you find your answer >here< (http://www.playdota.com/mechanics[/url) or watch thru mythbuster (http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/board,79.50.html[/url) episodes. u will find all u need to know about orb effects & cleave stacks (@ the_feeder )
Thanks (so you dont know ;D)
Will do when I get the time and/or have will to watch it all ;)
i can tell you, but then u will ask in next post "and how about mjorinil in wr ulti ". if u follow the links i gave you you will find ALL there is to it. (and much more) :P
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My favourite item build recently is radiance+veil of discord on batrider, makes sticky+radiance work epic fun :D
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I'd say... Vlad first Phantom lancer / riki / magina / insert melee hero*. Every single time makes me want to slap math teacher. It must be their fault.
Now if you're as clueless, go flame me. Maybe finally someone will tell me the secret, and I will finally understand.
* For obvious reasons, Ursa is excluded.
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a quite retarded build is sangeyasha on bara..he has enough movement and attackspeed from passive and madness..and he has bash passive instead of sange so it useless waste money on s&y..mord an buriza ftw
once i saw sniper with force staff and blink..was noob easy mode game btw...he raped hard! XD
i once did refresh on necrolyte..uber luxury game,raped tankers hard
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hahah another good necro is blodstone+cuirass+ mijolinir axaxax ultrakill easy XD
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a quite retarded build is sangeyasha on bara..he has enough movement and attackspeed from passive and madness..and he has bash passive instead of sange so it useless waste money on s&y..mord an buriza ftw
once i saw sniper with force staff and blink..was noob easy mode game btw...he raped hard! XD
i once did refresh on necrolyte..uber luxury game,raped tankers hard
ok.
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sure madness what do u want to do on bara?XD vlad is tard,dominator *could be but than u need expensive attack speed..noway,madness is the bara item..bara and void. or u can play bara without lifesteal maybe doing him urn of shadow but......
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once i was bara and one pubber said to me "bara where is your fucking mom" and i reported him and he got banned, lol cool story
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bone with wind walk :D
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really? o.O banned for what!? wtf..funny thing..btw,madness on bara are necessary like boots on a random hero,it's his item. imao
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once i was bara and one pubber said to me "bara where is your fucking mom" and i reported him and he got banned, lol cool story
lo0ol :D
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really? o.O banned for what!? wtf..funny thing..btw,madness on bara are necessary like boots on a random hero,it's his item. imao
srsly sometimes I want to kill myself just because of this shit.
Did u read rules? MoM on bara= acc ban 10 days on bnet :S
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bone with wind walk :D
with lothar
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this is maybe the most retarded build i ever seen(exept 2 or 3 orbs tog).sf with battle fury :)
(http://i.imgur.com/nDKUJlN.jpg)
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this is maybe the most retarded build i ever seen(exept 2 or 3 orbs tog).sf with battle fury :)
(http://i.imgur.com/nDKUJlN.jpg)
The awkward moment when sf with bf pwned all of you. Go on, blame your team and find excuses :D
ps: http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5016854
ps2: I was not sf.
ps3: there is no ps3
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bf on sf is good, nice regend and big cheap dmg :D why not?
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ok platin go deep more on my games man.this topic its not to talk about my games but for item build,if u say me that bf for sf is good item(no matter who is playing sf) then u are mega nab,end of story.
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ok platin go deep more on my games man.this topic its not to talk about my games but for item build,if u say me that bf for sf is good item(no matter who is playing sf) then u are mega nab,end of story.
Roger that master, I'm nab.. and as you can see in my post I definetly told bf is best item for sf. Rest of story.
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this is maybe the most retarded build i ever seen(exept 2 or 3 orbs tog).sf with battle fury :)
(http://i.imgur.com/nDKUJlN.jpg)
The awkward moment when sf with bf pwned all of you. Go on, blame your team and find excuses :D
ps: http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5016854
ps2: I was not sf.
ps3: there is no ps3
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/apply-cold-water-to-the-burned-area.jpeg)
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MoM on bara= acc ban 10 days on bnet :S
:D :D
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another quite bad item that people often do is aganim on destroyer..ok,you've some more range of cast,but the damage suck XD
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if you have 1000 int more than your enemy then you can notice the different of dmg.
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diff+manta pudge, new meta imo
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just today played with guy who was gonna get vladimir for thrall.... unfortunetally never finished it :(
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well real supp buys the vlads but in which game? TRAPEM+1 with a team like 4 carry 1 thrall and everyone has vladimir? :D
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well real supp buys the vlads but in which game? TRAPEM+1 with a team like 4 carry 1 thrall and everyone has vladimir? :D
hh, forgive me then... as I didnt see that briliance in it...me poor nab :)
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another quite bad item that people often do is aganim on destroyer..ok,you've some more range of cast,but the damage suck XD
Yea, have you ever tried to tell them NOT to buy Agha but, well almost anything else that adds int, ingame?
They praised the Scepter so much that I almost wanted to make one for every clon of Meepo...
just today played with guy who was gonna get vladimir for thrall.... unfortunetally never finished it :(
I think I played with the same guy :D
In my game he finished it. Usually I would be like "even tho he probably made it for himself, we can still use it", sadly we were like 4 (if not all) ranged heroes...
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another quite bad item that people often do is aganim on destroyer..ok,you've some more range of cast,but the damage suck XD
Yea, have you ever tried to tell them NOT to buy Agha but, well almost anything else that adds int, ingame?
They praised the Scepter so much that I almost wanted to make one for every clon of Meepo...
just today played with guy who was gonna get vladimir for thrall.... unfortunetally never finished it :(
I think I played with the same guy :D
In my game he finished it. Usually I would be like "even tho he probably made it for himself, we can still use it", sadly we were like 4 (if not all) ranged heroes...
you forgot creeps. they get extra dmg and lifesteal. good item to have that 15% extra dmg can change everything.
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another quite bad item that people often do is aganim on destroyer..ok,you've some more range of cast,but the damage suck XD
Yea, have you ever tried to tell them NOT to buy Agha but, well almost anything else that adds int, ingame?
They praised the Scepter so much that I almost wanted to make one for every clon of Meepo...
just today played with guy who was gonna get vladimir for thrall.... unfortunetally never finished it :(
I think I played with the same guy :D
In my game he finished it. Usually I would be like "even tho he probably made it for himself, we can still use it", sadly we were like 4 (if not all) ranged heroes...
LMFAO 4 aganims on meepo..let me do some math..one more meepo for every aganim...mmh 8 meepoes,interesting! about aganim on destro..i said that many times ingame unsucessfully:i've some feedback like..stfu u tard noob or similar thing XD lol you know..The real Noob..is forever!! :D
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Actually you are wrong with Meepos:
Meepo lvl 6 has 1 clone, make Agha for main Meepo and for the clone -> 2 extra Meepos. Make another 2 Aghanims for extra Meepos -> have 2 extra extra Meepos (already 6 Meepos on lvl 6 Meepo) -> repeat for unlimited Meepos.
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hahaha omg..u right! o.O infinite mepos! D:
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Unless you bug them in -test -noherolimit , clones don't have inventory, and multiple Aghanim bug was fixed during beta tests. :(
For those brave (or foolish) enough:
- run a -test -noherolimit game
- pick 5 lvl1 meepos
- level up one of them to 6
- skill one level of ultimate
- watch results
Muliple aghanims behaved in similar manner.
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Unless you bug them in -test -noherolimit , clones don't have inventory, and multiple Aghanim bug was fixed during beta tests. :(
For those brave (or foolish) enough:
- run a -test -noherolimit game
- pick 5 lvl1 meepos
- level up one of them to 6
- skill one level of ultimate
- watch results
Muliple aghanims behaved in similar manner.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-W4jCaJ9LeywTsVBPbrm6YWJV0QK6rJqGiGMCLY2rUYs_LzHmUQ)
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Come on. It sounds more exciting this way :P
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dunno if i said already..but mijolinir on naix XD
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at the same game Leoric with vanguard wind with vlad and most epic one Ursa with bottle and "DOMI"
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dunno if i said already..but mijolinir on naix XD
I like this item on Naix, fu :D
Btw its Mjollnir
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lich with mom :D i saw it once the reason was no one was focusing the supernova sun :D
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lich with mom :D i saw it once the reason was no one was focusing the supernova sun :D
Well, that's reasonable ;D
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It can be good if thral plays support. Most support eroes carry aura items for team.
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It can be good if thral plays support. Most support eroes carry aura items for team.
Sure. The problem is, in public game that support woud usually be lancer, riki, or gondar -.-
And worst thing is, people are soooooooooo unbeliveably willing and devoted to supporing, that they often can't stand others supporting, and get the same aura 2-3 times per team (suport moar!).
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It can be good if thral plays support. Most support eroes carry aura items for team.
Sure. The problem is, in public game that support woud usually be lancer, riki, or gondar -.-
And worst thing is, people are soooooooooo unbeliveably willing and devoted to supporing, that they often can't stand others supporting, and get the same aura 2-3 times per team (suport moar!).
dota is shit w/o at least 4 carry heroes and 3 vlads per team. ITS NOT A JOKE!! ;D
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It makes things more interesting xD
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xaxax..2 thing..bottle on ursa can be good..especially for dd but even for haste and regen..she usually has lothar so can run b..regen and return ftw lol i think i've never bought it but.. :D
naix wih mjllinir or wtf it's called it's not good imho couse all power of naix is on first spell imho.
mijolinir it's a waste couse it gives u attack speed yes..but you can't cast black form or it will be dispelled..you can cast it after black form..but the cd of black form is so short that you will dispell it the second time u cast it! XD
weird item for naix far better it's MoM imho..seems a waste couse he doesn't need lifesteal,but it gives u huge attackspeed and also make u very fast so u can chase the running away fag enemy and slow him for all the team that follow u. the more damage u get from mom it's not a big problemcouse u've black form and imba lifesteal. i somethimes do it with mordiggean and basher and it works fine. it's very usefull do denize bara or int and agy.if ur enemy it's zeus you can just activate ulty and when you're close enough avatarize and kill him..while your team is coming XD
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well this works only in noob games couse if zeus do fkn ghost scepter you're done! :))
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naix-desolator gg wp nothing more he need
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There are no retarded item "builds". (item selections, you are not building anything, you are selecting)
Even refresher on tinker can be justified. Instant refresh > 3,2,1 sec cd refresh.
Instead of trying to appear smarter by saying item x is retarded and item y is stupid, maybe you should learn dota.
Holy shit.
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There are no retarded item "builds". (item selections, you are not building anything, you are selecting)
Even refresher on tinker can be justified. Instant refresh > 3,2,1 sec cd refresh.
Instead of trying to appear smarter by saying item x is retarded and item y is stupid, maybe you should learn dota.
Holy shit.
you're one of that retarded people that will never evolving from being a fkn n00b...end of the story
'Instead of trying to appear smarter by saying item x is retarded and item y is stupid, maybe you should learn dota.' LMFAO man...actually i don't think to 'appear' smarter..i guess there's no doubt i'm at least smarter than ya! imho :)) and about learn dota...i'm always learning dota since about 4-5 years ago,maybe it'd be a good thing if u start to do it too.
i'd like to see your account man,just to learn your item buids! can u show us? :)
thank you
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Item build or item selection, this is just quibble.
Almost every item on every hero may be somehow justified but Refresher on Tinker is stupid, isn't it?
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this is my new signature man! :D most epic bullshit i've red now for a while XD hahah made my day
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If you are slow, then sure, don't build it.
When you are fast however, the difference between instant refresh and 1 cd refresh is very noticeable.
Try it in 10 years and see what i mean.
I like your signature feeder, it showcases how little you understand dota.
Anyone with decent speed in reaction will laugh hard at you, but knowing this server, i will probably be the only one laughing.
Works for me.
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Yet I still think you can get better items for Tinker instead of Refresher.
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Yet I still think you can get better items for Tinker instead of Refresher.
^This.
You might be right. In late game; 1 second can be important but 5300 gold is not worth for that 1 second at all.
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There are no retarded item "builds". (item selections, you are not building anything, you are selecting)
Even refresher on tinker can be justified. Instant refresh > 3,2,1 sec cd
Instead of trying to appear smarter by saying item x is retarded and item y is stupid, maybe you should learn dota.
You absolutely are not trying to appear smarter, my friend.
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Yet I still think you can get better items for Tinker instead of Refresher.
^This.
You might be right. In late game; 1 second can be important but 5300 gold is not worth for that 1 second at all.
+ don't forget mana consumption of Refresher...
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One way of playing tinker is being an aggressive ridicolous game controlling killing machine freak, and another is being a boring farmforeverforahex then permahex guy. Most people obviously choose the last one mentioned, since that's easier.
If you want to improve your burst, you can't get any more than veil etheral dagon 5 necro 3 for the mana drain ... If you can't get more burst, you can always make the burst come faster, the answer is refresher.
Mana consumption for refresher is 375, mana consumption for level 3 rearm is 350. Huge difference indeed.
The point is everything can be made to work on any hero, in the right hands of course.
The most common items gotten and recommended are best for weaker players who can't handle dota with items which leave them more vulnerable than others.
To give a small example, pretty much every single player on this server would go vanguard on cent, however using that gold + a small 555 extra gold you can get a dagon and be able to kill almost any hero by yourself early, instead of having an almost useless 250 extra hp with 6 sec regen and damage block. Does that make getting dagon on cent "epic retarded" ? This topics creator and pretty much 100% of the server says yes.
I smile, i continue enjoying this curse of being so far above everyone else that there is never any challenge, i continue playing all pub games at 0.01% of my ability or lower, because if i would play at any more, everyone on this server would get kicked for afk.
One two three four,
Baby scream like you want some more.
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I've tried dagon on cent; it brings quite good damage combo indeed. I wouldn't say it's retarded item build for that. I also tried guinzo on davion, dagon for tuskar, etheral blade on necro etc.. I even saw veil+refresh+ shiva on nevermore which sounds logical. non of them are retarded as well.
As I said above refresher on tinker is not epic retarded since 1 second can be very important in late game combats but when you can have better items for 5300 gold; it's not more than wasting money for tinker.
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xaxax this thread is getting hotter and funnier for sure now..
perma hex on tinker u said? mmmh sounds cool..! but have u condiered that to do it 1) you need tons of mana.. 2)it's supposed you stay alive in battle for a while,with people focusing you for sure..(maybe not XD)
3)permahex is usually not necessary couse it's supposed that your team rape people with just a hex...u've already ulty to hex another guy.......the chance you are still alive to hex the third guy are very low imho lol
'ive thought that a ghost scepter would be very useful to do that couse it's refreshable to..you can kinda stay perma ghost,but what about spells? u will need linken too? XD
4)in normal mode this is just utopia man..
and about dagon on cent it *could* be in same weird games maybe but come on...cent is a str,tanker and supporter...not a killer, maybe you can skip the vanguard if u want,but i'd make moneys for a cuirass instead of a fkn dagon (what about refresh? :D 2 stuns 2 stomps 2 ulties..ok just kidding,but maybe it would be more useful than dagon)
i make u an exemple..some days ago i played a game with a tiny that was supposed to be good 8/5 k/d..cool i said! he's kinda good! we raped all the early/mid game..he was monsterkill or something..he had mana boots,dagon (lvl5) ,no blink.. i said him from start..man,we need a tanker,do cuirass..nothing.
end of the story is that late game he started to feed like an idiot and he became pretty useless..he also said to me that he coudn't stun or toss (they had some stunners) so he bought dagon..but..MAN!!! COME ON BUY A FKN BLINK
we was 4v5 and we already had imba damagers in team...i was playing seeker,we didn't need his dagond for sure we just needed to survive in battle an kill them!
the point is..u can have imba !SD, be a fragger and all....but if u don't understand nothing about dota strategy you will be noob forever....
i love nevermores that have 10/3 k/d...pick it first of all the other players,says i go mid and than feed and cry couse of their retarded pick. I also noticed that theese 'pro nevermores' are often angry leavers too..hahah. when i notice they pick never and they will be probably mid, i like to pick bane..go mid.
spam 1st spell 1 time..harass a bit with normal attack..than when u're lvl 5 u can troll them just attacking them with your mormal shitty damage till u're almost dead...sleep them..go behind..and when they wake up..1st spell and 3 hit and they die XD it works about 80% or more times with theese 'pro nevermores' lol
sorry for the little OT
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I've tried dagon on cent; it brings quite good damage combo indeed. I wouldn't say it's retarded item build for that. I also tried guinzo on davion, dagon for tuskar, etheral blade on necro etc.. I even saw veil+refresh+ shiva on nevermore which sounds logical. non of them are retarded as well.
As I said above refresher on tinker is not epic retarded since 1 second can be very important in late game combats but when you can have better items for 5300 gold; it's not more than wasting money for tinker.
1 second is important at any stage of the game, not just later, later it's just highlighted more because of the longer respawn times. 1 extra second of waiting for a recharge can always be the difference between the enemy hardcarry running away or dying.
as for "wasting money for tinker", tinker is one of the few heroes that has gold pouring out of its every hole for the entire game after he gets travels, if you also play him aggressively you wont even notice when you get the gold.
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I've tried dagon on cent; it brings quite good damage combo indeed. I wouldn't say it's retarded item build for that. I also tried guinzo on davion, dagon for tuskar, etheral blade on necro etc.. I even saw veil+refresh+ shiva on nevermore which sounds logical. non of them are retarded as well.
As I said above refresher on tinker is not epic retarded since 1 second can be very important in late game combats but when you can have better items for 5300 gold; it's not more than wasting money for tinker.
well..i've tried ethereal on necro too,it can be usefull.guinsoo is pretty good for all kind of heroes, it's an item that is good itself for the team,not necessarly for just the hero.....if there's someone in enemies that seems unkillable,just do a guinsoo,no matter so much who do it..it would be better if an int or support do it,but even a carry or tanker can do it to save the game. refresh on tiner..no way imho...5300 gold,maybe 2000 ok,not 5300. i woudn't do it even for 2000 gold anyway
dagon on cent works for sure to get kills,it's not retarded in some games..expecially if enemies has many low life heroes..but as i said already,cent is not a killer..early game he's 'naturally' a killer couse of the 2 spells combo..so why not,but later game it's more tanker or supporter i'd prefer for example if he plays aura or support (vlad,cuirass,guinsoo,pipe)
cent is a weird hero imho it can be played in many ways no doubt,you can play him imba tanker ( heart,vang,cuirass)..supporter/tanker ( vlad,cuirass) ganker (blink,dagon) kinda carrier ( mijolinir,sangeyasha etc..)
in dota almost everything is possible..there's just few justified taboo like refresh on tinker or basher on rylay XD
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dunno man,maybe i've just to try it..but i still think that 5300 for a bit shorter refresh it's quite a waste,u can do malevolence,or disarm,veil,dagon,shiva's etc..
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i agree
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i agree
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This guy is like a wall. You keep giving him reasonable arguments and he still htink hes best ignoring everything else. Sad.
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and actually u will get refresh after lvl 16 so u already has 1 second of channeling..you can do refresh after travel,but don't think it would be a good idea XD imho
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an item build choice i'd consider for tinker could also been arcane boots,soul ring and mekasm would be imba support for the team.
soul ring gives u 150 mana but you loose 150 life,mekasm cost of mana is 150 but healing is 250 hp..so with this combo u get +100hp for free and your team 250..
also you loose some mana to cast ulty and refresh boots but the team mana regen would be 135*5=675 mp at the cost for u of 350mp
instead of 5300 for refresh on tinker i'd consider more 2 mana boots = 2900 gold
mekasm 2306
with 5206 gold you've a ton of mana and life for all the team! XD
ok...i think it's time do pub a new thread about weird tinker items :D lol
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not sure this guy is real pro or just wannabe.
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an item build choice i'd consider for tinker could also been arcane boots,soul ring and mekasm would be imba support for the team.
soul ring gives u 150 mana but you loose 150 life,mekasm cost of mana is 150 but healing is 250 hp..so with this combo u get +100hp for free and your team 250..
also you loose some mana to cast ulty and refresh boots but the team mana regen would be 135*5=675 mp at the cost for u of 350mp
instead of 5300 for refresh on tinker i'd consider more 2 mana boots = 2900 gold
mekasm 2306
with 5206 gold you've a ton of mana and life for all the team! XD
ok...i think it's time do pub a new thread about weird tinker items :D lol
yes, so you can use rearm and use mekka again?
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Holy crap, amout of logical fallacies in this thread is mind-boggling.
Not sure if tinker suggestion(s) is (are) genuinely serious, or that poor trolling attempt. Since we had already refresher, mek, arcanes and BKB mentioned, I'm still waiting for someone suggesting imba farming with midas and/or gg lolpush with entire jungle dominated with helmet of dominator.
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i was trolling about doing many arcane boots yes! but doing for example very expensive items on normal mode leave you slots for both travel for u and arcane for the team..about dominator : LOL,i didn't thought about this...if it would be possible to charme more than one creep would be funny/imba XD axaxax
at least if u think 1500 gold for refreshable mana boots are not that much, and for the guy that asked..yeah man,also all items refresh all didn't u noticed? XD
ok stop bullshit,neeed a new thread for tinker..lol
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Holy crap, amout of logical fallacies in this thread is mind-boggling.
Not sure if tinker suggestion(s) is (are) genuinely serious, or that poor trolling attempt. Since we had already refresher, mek, arcanes and BKB mentioned, I'm still waiting for someone suggesting imba farming with midas and/or gg lolpush with entire jungle dominated with helmet of dominator.
you forgot mjolnir man..you can cast for all the carries of your team! :D LOL
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meng... pls stop, you are cracking the shit out of me, can't hold it any longer
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Holy crap, amout of logical fallacies in this thread is mind-boggling.
Not sure if tinker suggestion(s) is (are) genuinely serious, or that poor trolling attempt. Since we had already refresher, mek, arcanes and BKB mentioned, I'm still waiting for someone suggesting imba farming with midas and/or gg lolpush with entire jungle dominated with helmet of dominator.
OMG NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT FIRST JOB WHEN I GO HOME GO MIDAS F****R TINKER YAAY!!! :D (and also i can maybe get refresher for that imba gold i will have :D)
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hahah funny thing about midas..but noway..permatravel lane to lane using clockwerk army spell is the most effective XD
still can't believe there's such noob people thinking about refresh on tinker...actually you need an average 0,5 second less to rearm..come on guys!! 0,5 seconds!! hahahah my god :D
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Tide Vanguard gg
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Lothar on Riki \m/ (-_-) \m/
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I just watched a Youtube video, lololololol.
Techies + Armlet = GG
Heres the link xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBYcgpqskdI
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well..today i've seen void iwth treds on str and mordiggean as first items..no madness nothing! this item build is quite retarded already but can works late game..but as first items omg..it's just imba tard! the guy said me that void need hp u.u my point of view is that void just need to rape all during the 6/7 seconds of ulty :D madness fury buriza etc..even aganim and refresh can be funny..it all depends by other picks btw...if u have sniper in team and u leave him out of void with aganim and refresh..xaxax
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I just watched a Youtube video, lololololol.
Techies + Armlet = GG
Heres the link xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBYcgpqskdI
omff...dat techies! :)))
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MoM is mainstream for Void. He needs attack speed + some dmg but that doesn't mean he needs MoM.
On the other hand, Void is one of heroes who can use MoM well.
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i got kicked for using mom on void in ihrl :D
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MoM is mainstream for Void. He needs attack speed + some dmg but that doesn't mean he needs MoM.
On the other hand, Void is one of heroes who can use MoM well.
Mom and early crit can do very well (pub game) Just wait for hero to drop to half hp in fight , sphere him and rape with crit xD kill by kill , you get buriza or whatever you want.
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Works only if people tend to separate, otherwise, you're toast.
But this:
void iwth treds on str and mordiggean as first items..no madness nothing! this item build is quite retarded already but can works late game..but as first items omg
Really? Justify please.
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MoM is mainstream for Void. He needs attack speed + some dmg but that doesn't mean he needs MoM.
On the other hand, Void is one of heroes who can use MoM well.
in a pub game, with orchid+blast+alacrity, invoker is even a hero to use mom :D btw with forged spirit on front mega focus on roshan :D
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nevermore, first item armlet.
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5038814
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nevermore, first item armlet.
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5038814
good item to pwn 1200psr
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Works only if people tend to separate, otherwise, you're toast.
But this:
void iwth treds on str and mordiggean as first items..no madness nothing! this item build is quite retarded already but can works late game..but as first items omg
Really? Justify please.
i mean it can works if u've already good damage and lifesteal and you're noob enough to leave range guys out of the void..if u have madness and buriza u can have armlet and str treads and u willl kill anyway,but it's a retarded item build imho..noway void is agy disabler not tanker..he just need fkn damage attack speed or ulty improovements
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with str build it more forgiving..u can do some mistakes and u will survive..but if u're good enough you will survive anyway and have better k/d ratio
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I'd always rather make str power treads + armlet before agi pt + MoM, I guess that tells you enough how wrong you are.
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It depends on your game style - if you are aggresive and you can handle it, MoM and Armlet is imba (not talking about Void but in general [who will be the first one to say "In general? So for Tech it's good?"]).
Try MoM + Armlet for Balanar, you'll be unstopabble if you can handle it.
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leoric with arcane boots..and yes,we already had it in team..it's not MOST retarded..but it's retarded enough...no magina or other mana suckers around
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It depends on your game style - if you are aggresive and you can handle it, MoM and Armlet is imba (not talking about Void but in general [who will be the first one to say "In general? So for Tech it's good?"]).
Try MoM + Armlet for Balanar, you'll be unstopabble if you can handle it.
yeah i did it often..even naix is imba with this item build
about armlet and str treds i don't undestand the sense of doing it..kinda no damage,a ton of life that u don't need (expecially early game) + void with madness start frag from start....maybe i've just to try it..maybe late game it rewards so what's the item build? i guess str treds,mord,mijolinir or cuirass?
well u can skill madness expecially if someone have vlad in team...i did in the past fury+mijolinir+ maybe buriza..lol but void best item imho it's MoM for some reasons..ulty,bash,his kinda evasion etc. than if there're the right condition u could think to do otherwise but.
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Well, Void is great escaper - with Armlet he is almost unpwnable :D
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noone tried madness+mordiggean+basher on seeker? it makes some kind of sense..you've dd from first skill,high life,you pown a guy and refresh your life..it should work good,have to try it ;)
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oh i remeber one game played maybe a year ago where i did madness on seeker with blademails and a ton of life if i remember right + fury..the sense was that people will attack u and take a ton of damage from blademails amplified by madness..so they loose life attacking u...but they can't don't attack u couse u will kill the tardghet and refresh your life..so they attack so they took imba aoe damage by blademails and fury..when u kill the first targhet the other enemy carries should be low life and the killing chain go on! :D
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It's common sense that your average melee agi with Blade mail and MoM has more HP that entire enemy team put tugether.
... Right?
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what is mordiggean?
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It's common sense that your average melee agi with Blade mail and MoM has more HP that entire enemy team put tugether.
... Right?
actually it's not.. btw it quite obvious u will not go rambo 1v5 and when u do that it's supposed they're not all full life...come on! some fkn mental agility fkn nerds! :D
mordiggean it's mordiggian..same as up
man believe what u want but it kinda works and makes sense...it's not my item build,but i've tried it experimentally against heroes like mort,slark and other carry team and it can work very good
and btw..'It's common sense that your average melee agi with Blade mail and MoM has more HP that entire enemy team put tugether.' cit.
it's not supposed you just run around and waiting for blademail to do the job..it's supposed u attack the lowest life guy to restore your fkn life.......
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mordiggean it's mordiggian..same as up
what do you mean with "same as up" lol
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i meant mental agy..it's not a big problem to understand difference between mordiggian and mordiggean :D
hehe it's like if i ask u what's the name of fkn guinsoo..actually i don't know,i just buy it wtf it's called! XD
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just "hex" lol
but what is mordiggean, srsly
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f*** mordiggan f*** mordiggean call it armlet man easier to type 6 digit :D
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Lololo why would armlet be called murdggwpjean
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hahahah guys XD what about fkn pipe or fkn janggo..lol
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Whats wrong with jango?
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Whats wrong with jango?
the name..i've lernt it right today XD vtw..check this slark
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5042853
the boots you can't see are obviously fkn tranquil :)) ftw!!
he did tranquil first item than defiance..than others XD
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Reminds me of that pr0 slark guide where the guy was suggesting vlads as absolute core. Justification - he needs that damage and regen to jungle effectively.
But no wonder you can't jungle if you max essence shift first (omg u noob, it gief moar deimidz potentiel and dat shit nuk onli killz urslef).
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what about this trent guys? i've just played this game and was so hylarious..at some point i even did triplekill and went in monsterkill without even notice..i just did it by mistake probably :)) btw..here's the link
i'd post the replay of the third kill i did couse it was quite funny but i dunno how to put a fkn replay if not all game replay lol...nothing uberspecial btw..but spectre was trolled enough and i think he was kinda leaving after that :))
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5044890
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i agree
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what about this trent guys? i've just played this game and was so hylarious..at some point i even did triplekill and went in monsterkill without even notice..i just did it by mistake probably :)) btw..here's the link
i'd post the replay of the third kill i did couse it was quite funny but i dunno how to put a fkn replay if not all game replay lol...nothing uberspecial btw..but spectre was trolled enough and i think he was kinda leaving after that :))
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5044890
i once saw a treant with mom :) as first item ofc
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Ok guys, we have a winner.
(http://i.imgur.com/P4J47wW.png)
True story:
(http://imgim.com/2refresh.jpg)
PS: I've found it when I was solving one report and I couldnt continue it at that moment cuz of laughing :D
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what about this trent guys? i've just played this game and was so hylarious..at some point i even did triplekill and went in monsterkill without even notice..i just did it by mistake probably :)) btw..here's the link
i'd post the replay of the third kill i did couse it was quite funny but i dunno how to put a fkn replay if not all game replay lol...nothing uberspecial btw..but spectre was trolled enough and i think he was kinda leaving after that :))
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5044890
i once saw a treant with mom :) as first item ofc
Not bad idea in specific situations.
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what about this trent guys? i've just played this game and was so hylarious..at some point i even did triplekill and went in monsterkill without even notice..i just did it by mistake probably :)) btw..here's the link
i'd post the replay of the third kill i did couse it was quite funny but i dunno how to put a fkn replay if not all game replay lol...nothing uberspecial btw..but spectre was trolled enough and i think he was kinda leaving after that :))
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5044890
i once saw a treant with mom :) as first item ofc
Not bad idea in specific situations.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/730023950bc306605f114a3c70d4ba51/tumblr_mkyvbzmpCA1ra6mx1o1_500.gif)
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theres a safe build you can buy with every hero when ur bored aka euls, dagger, BoT, force, ethe, loth... Just trolling combo
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http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5072622
kacunka aka NErub asasin.
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http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5072622
kacunka aka NErub asasin.
well he won the game,seems legit xD
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EPIC FAIL EVER . First i said lets go rosh fast lvl 1 , pick ursa and skeleton after they pick heroes we went rosh fast and SKELETON USED STUN but ursa no 3th skills he skilled second spell .
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EPIC FAIL EVER . First i said lets go rosh fast lvl 1 , pick ursa and skeleton after they pick heroes we went rosh fast and SKELETON USED STUN but ursa no 3th skills he skilled second spell .
Anyway its bullshit trying kill rosh at lvl 1 cause 1avarge enemy player use brain and youre ****** up
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try wisp+ursa
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troll+wisp is good too
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- Radiance alchemist
- Radiance spectre
- Lothar slark
- Aghanim refresher zeus
- Aghanim nerub
Really, suck my cock, template-players
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- Radiance alchemist
- Radiance spectre
- Lothar slark
- Aghanim refresher zeus
- Aghanim nerub
Really, suck my cock, template-players
Oh nub someone raped you? XD
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Look, the action when mother bounces on someone's cock does not mean she raped someone.
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roflmao this is another level