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Title: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: atx.namespaceA on March 06, 2013, 16:27
Most of the people playing with Juggernaut, usually, they make is that the first item is butterfly. I think it seems too bored to playin like this. Jugger is one of my favorite DotA hero, since, then recently tried refresher, lothar, scepter and  BKB for Jugger. How about that? I already think, it seems imba items for ya! What do you think making so imba for Yurnero? 8)
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: FU I am PeNGuiN on March 06, 2013, 16:30
mjolnir+basher and gg
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: atx.namespaceA on March 06, 2013, 16:41
Hmm.. directly for basher I was didn't think before.. bash + mom also imba and then would be nice in thought, mjolnir also very imba item. i will try it soon! ;)
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: iNevermore on March 06, 2013, 17:30
Scapter : Skadi :  Boots of travel : MKB : Basher : Manta.

GG
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Astaroth on March 06, 2013, 17:30
First item butterfly?
I think I never saw anyone making butterfly as first.
The usually make battlefury and agha.

Well I guess good goal (po pew pew) is to make your ulty as much powerfull as possible, for this all you need is attack speed - Mjollnir is perfect item.
Omnislash deals physical dmg so armor reducing items are also good.
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: atx.namespaceA on March 06, 2013, 17:45
@Astaroth
Dude, because u don't play with noobs like i do with low psr now. i saw a lot of people who's making first scepter or bf. :D

@iNevermore
 Hmm.. Skadi... Hard to say if this is best item for jugger.
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Dr.[H]ouse on March 06, 2013, 18:10
Orchid + Deso = GG  ;)
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: jeandarc on March 06, 2013, 18:16
Everything depends on enemy heroes, which means there isn't some kind of rule for heroes' items.
As for yurnero, I usually got for this build:

First items: QB, 3 branches, tango and slave.

Core items: phase, bfury, manta, jango, aquila and tp (tp is very important on yurnero, it basically saves your life (spin then tp))

Late game items: BoT, bfury, manta, mkb, bfly and bkb/satanic
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: iNevermore on March 06, 2013, 18:40
True, depends who u play with and against who.

I like skadis slow+hero speed (mostly from travels+manta) because I hate it when enemie runs without hp and I cant freaking get him. Skadi brings u everything u need, mana, agi and HP from str. Item that will carry game and brings you  HP which u need alot when u play against nukers for example.

Satanic is ok but only with BKB because its easy to conter with helbard.
Mljonir is awesome, but jugger doesnt really need that much speed and extra dmg when having a scapter.
Deso is awesome item for jugger but only agaisnt tanks.

Well everyone got different opinion :P
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Gorazd on March 07, 2013, 11:03
If u play in good team where u are carry u can farm out first item phase boots and bfury than desolator and scepter.But if u play in public game and your team is full with carry u can go for mana boot and go support with healing ward and blade fury and the item build should depend :))
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: GREED on March 07, 2013, 11:06
just go attack speed items and scepter. it will give you more slashes. all other is irrelevant. (besides that tp+spin) :P
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: courierpower on March 07, 2013, 11:09
Y i was looking in ihrl stats and n^^s was ALL TİME GOİNG FOR MOM on yurnero cuz of cheap attack speed i think, maybe div.ide can give the exact attack speed we need to slash more than usual :D
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: [Yuma]Psihijatar on March 13, 2013, 02:42
Imo Bot , Lothar , Refresher , Hex , Dagon lvl 5 , and new basher dunno name of item xD
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Platin on March 13, 2013, 03:13
depends on style. once I got diffulsal blade  cuz omni (enemy) was annoying me too much in that game (btw its quite good, you can try) There is no perfect item build.

abyssal blade + travel + aganim + satanic + fly + s&y  item build can be usefull..
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: [Yuma]Psihijatar on March 13, 2013, 03:34
sry for double post but platin this ->
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[quote]Imo Bot , Lothar , Refresher , Hex , Dagon lvl 5 , and new basher dunno name of item xD[/quote]

Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: brad_hawk on March 13, 2013, 10:10
Get Travel,Abyssal Blade,Fly,Vlad,EOS and BKB.Then they will say GG
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Bart on March 13, 2013, 15:11
I AM THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: GREED on March 13, 2013, 15:26
I AM THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75cVj4m2x0Q
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Jimmy on March 17, 2013, 00:18
More the Attack speed , more Slashes ultimate give u . For Orb i would go with Mjollnir , over that Vladimir's . Assault For Attack speed ( and u got 200dmg Lightning from ur Orb effect ) itz good for multi targets . Boots will be Agility Treads . Sange And Yasha , and as the 6th item , Lothar , just to got good Initiate / Escape option . Thatz my opinion. Cheers
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: meto1230 on March 17, 2013, 00:42
wand,janggo,phase,fury,fly use ur janggo before u ulty then u have ur attack speed(also nice for team) Start:bracer,circlet,tango,potion,branch
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: meto1230 on March 17, 2013, 01:35
Arcane boots are u serious ? ??? Give some stats instead critical on early levels and heal (heal only one level) and ure fine
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: atx.namespaceA on March 24, 2013, 06:54
arcane is fine :D, if ur team pushing and don't farm in 5 mins in game indeed like anothers doing...
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: .SaLiH. on March 24, 2013, 10:20
maybe arcane if you go mid to farm btw orchid is awsome to yurnero
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Jimmy on March 29, 2013, 05:03
Ok Lothar Edge , itz kk for Open/Escape . Refresher? maybe after 20 Level , but ... even then  ,it would take too much mana , mana pool must be boosted , so u will need 1 more supp item in inventory. BkB? same like on naix. Yur activate bkb after spin , like naix After Rage.

ASSAULT CUIRASS
SANGE & YASHA
VLADMIR'S OFFERING
MJOLLNIR
BUTTERFLY
TRAVEL BOOTS

Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Dark_Tauren on March 29, 2013, 13:03
WW helping for ganks or escaping, that is for me solid item for Yugger, but you must have it for 10-15 mins or fail. It all depends who you fight against. If you play vs carry's like magina, slark, naix etc... you need mass dmg, attack speed and good life steal. But, vs good stun's and magic's you need BKB and good "hp" or you can do nothint. My items:
Against carry: BoT, Vladmir, Aghanim, Butterfly, Mjollnir and 1 item for dmg (MKB, Battle fury, Abyssal blade).
Against stun's and magic's: BoT, Satanic, BKB, Aghanim, 1 item for more dmg and you can buy maybe Orchid for fun if you want :).

P.S. Since you can carry only 6 items refresher is not for Yugger :D
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: iNevermore on March 29, 2013, 13:28
Lohar as solid item for yarunery (hard carry)?????
For god sake, what is with you people? We are talking about apem noobs or some good game?

Its obvious if you play against good players they will buy dusts rapidly. Lothar on almost every hero is waste of money! you have supports to help you get out when needed.
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Dark_Tauren on March 29, 2013, 13:34
Maybe i am wrong, but ww helped me a lot...
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: iNevermore on March 29, 2013, 13:42
Thats your choice of items you make.. but everytime u make wrong item your team suffers from that.
Making lothar on yarunero is very selfish.
For lothar money u can buy hand of midas that makes you get your core items WAY faster.

If you want atatck from suprise buy smoke
if you want only to escape battle leaving ur mates to die - dont take carry or else make bkb if they got tons of stuns. Also your spin works like BKB - which means u can be almost unstoppable.
Title: Re: refresher, bkb, lothar for yuggernaut?
Post by: Jimmy on March 29, 2013, 14:00

if you want only to escape battle leaving ur mates to die - dont take carry or else make bkb if they got tons of stuns.

True that , but as a carry , itz up to you to take 2 or 3 heroes solo, depent on situation etc. If u got S&Y as i said u can intercept them and Ulti From WW , and if they got dust ( what is as u say , normal ) :) u still get +MS from it to back up AND wait for ur supporting mates .

At the end , it depent VS u play , and with who u play . but u got a point there.