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Title: Support alchemist?
Post by: samekind on July 29, 2012, 23:35
Face it Alchemist is horrible carry, even if farmed he still is usually worse then most other carrys. So why not send him on a trilane? He has pretty strong stun early game and huge aoe armor reducing dpsing skill. He could lane pretty well with vs and some carry ( line with Weaver would be stomping ). On top of that in team fights he dosnt need to stand aside he can waltz in with his ulti and do some real damage.
With help of his ulti he basicaly dosnt need to go back to fountain he can roam 24/7 after 6th. And even Goblin Greed is tempting skill you can just ignore it ( like with AA's Chilling Touch ) but in late game he can catch up with some valuable items for team using it.
I know that any other support is more favoured by captains but wouldn't he bring more impact in teams that rely on physical damage rather then magical ( Acid Spray armour reduction)?
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on July 29, 2012, 23:45
Disagree about him being bad carry, his farm is just sick.

About support ,tried it few times, it can work sometimes.

Anyway, we will try it in IHRL soon if u want :D
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: FU I am PeNGuiN on July 29, 2012, 23:46
ofc, alchemist good guy.

!support

xD
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: P_u..D_gE on July 30, 2012, 11:01
Did you say Alchemist is not good 1v1 lane? xDDDDD

Ok, I've heard all. Believe Night^^Stalker, he knows what he says:

@Night: Don't try his strategy on IHRL unless u play against new users xD
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: samekind on July 30, 2012, 12:17
Did you say Alchemist is not good 1v1 lane? xDDDDD

Ok, I've heard all. Believe Night^^Stalker, he knows what he says:

@Night: Don't try his strategy on IHRL unless u play against new users xD
I am not saying that he isnt good. There are simply better picks on 1v1 lane. I am just pointing that he would be pretty good as support on a trilane and as roaming support.

Disagree about him being bad carry, his farm is just sick.

About support ,tried it few times, it can work sometimes.

Anyway, we will try it in IHRL soon if u want :D
But I didn't see overfarmed Alchemist pwning in competitive games. I have seen few games from Chinese dota where he was used as carry but even with all that money he didnt have that much impact in teamfights as a carry. He got easily outplayed by enemy team.
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: shpura on July 30, 2012, 13:18
Did you say Alchemist is not good 1v1 lane? xDDDDD

Ok, I've heard all. Believe Night^^Stalker, he knows what he says:

@Night: Don't try his strategy on IHRL unless u play against new users xD
I am not saying that he isnt good. There are simply better picks on 1v1 lane. I am just pointing that he would be pretty good as support on a trilane and as roaming support.

Disagree about him being bad carry, his farm is just sick.

About support ,tried it few times, it can work sometimes.

Anyway, we will try it in IHRL soon if u want :D
But I didn't see overfarmed Alchemist pwning in competitive games. I have seen few games from Chinese dota where he was used as carry but even with all that money he didnt have that much impact in teamfights as a carry. He got easily outplayed by enemy team.

I'll give you a link if you want in international tour he is played as carry. Actually I think it's even by Na'Vi. And he is pwning.
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: DatFace on July 30, 2012, 13:45
Disagree about him being bad carry, his farm is just sick.

About support ,tried it few times, it can work sometimes.

Anyway, we will try it in IHRL soon if u want :D
O yes, a month ago (or 2) can't remember well
you pwned us with alche, farming whole game....
we were winning your comrades, but on 30-40mins you could push/kill us solo

too bad cant find that game link!
Title: Re: Support alchemist?
Post by: Facemelt0r on August 08, 2012, 01:34
With his 3rd passive, alchemist can outfarm enemy carries many times.
About him being support on trilane... his acid spray can damage creeps and push lane nicely(if it's used to push enemies away from creeps)