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Strategy Discussion Section => DotA Discussion => Topic started by: shpura on April 06, 2012, 23:04
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what do you suggest?
lothar or dagger?
I usually buy lothar when there are no enemy trackers, because wind walk grealy increases my ulti dmg output and i have an escape mechanism. Also dmg and att speed don't hurt.
But i found myself in situations when i really need dagger so enemies escape...
I also find buying both lothar and dagger kinda stupid. I always go for bkb after.
Please post your opinions.
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for me, dagger is so much better, cuz of my playstyle.. im not kinda person who likes to sneak behind and bam... thats ninja style, im samurai xD
so i go dagger, bkb, mantas
and when some1 is escaping u, trust me, imo its more easier to blink in front and use raze and kill him, i have milion replays that can prove dagger is better. But yea, u stay for like 1 more sec in lothar if u cast ulty and it can save from disables, but tbh, if u have some1 to initiate in fight, u dagger in activate bkb ulty > ultra kill rampage bla bla xD
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if enemy has few stuns u dont even need bkb...ur not supposed to go in first and ulti right away anyways. Only in situations where your teammates are retards you must go first (and if you go you must have bkb too cus even if they have 1 stun ur fucked). Also lothars is a waste when enemy roams with team of 5 with a gem or dust. thats my opinion.
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Thanks
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what do you suggest?
lothar or dagger?
I usually buy lothar when there are no enemy trackers, because wind walk grealy increases my ulti dmg output and i have an escape mechanism. Also dmg and att speed don't hurt.
But i found myself in situations when i really need dagger so enemies escape...
I also find buying both lothar and dagger kinda stupid. I always go for bkb after.
Please post your opinions.
im not sf skillzor but dagger ofc...
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in pub games : make lothar
in private games : make dagger
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dagger+bkb all the way
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sometimes just farm fast bkb without dager or lothar
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dagger ofc
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dager + etheral(against fighters) / bkb (against int) = GG
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go dagger and lothars, and then forcestaff so u can chase and run as much as you want xD
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Dagger better then lothar
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No need to lothar.
In early game
2x wraith band, pt
goes to
pt, dagger, bkb, etheral or manta
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magic stick or pms,dagger,bkb,manta (+sy)
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dust/gem = lothar sucks
Dagger - u can always escape, kill...
dagger, bkb, manta, skadi enough.
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I hate to play against barathrum cuz dagger sucks against bara anyway.
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In pub games it suck anywya to play with nevermore.
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In pub games it suck anywya to play with nevermore.
why?
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i've heard that dutch noob mark playz SF best on xpam
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Depends , but i prefer lothar anyway. It is depends on how i farm. If i farm well , i ll go for lothar , because i will have extra dmg from souls + lothars dmg. When you get lothar , just stand next to hero , and after ulti si done , 3 or 4 hits are enough for kill. With dagger , you dont have dmg and you dont have element of suprise.Above all , with loth you gain MS to cover up that blink distance you would do with dagger.
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Depends , but i prefer lothar anyway. It is depends on how i farm. If i farm well , i ll go for lothar , because i will have extra dmg from souls + lothars dmg. When you get lothar , just stand next to hero , and after ulti si done , 3 or 4 hits are enough for kill. With dagger , you dont have dmg and you dont have element of suprise.Above all , with loth you gain MS to cover up that blink distance you would do with dagger.
lol well jumping at somebodys ass and useing just single raze to kill is not surprise ? :P lol