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Title: :S
Post by: areuss on July 27, 2011, 01:47
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 01:49
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss

cyclone with never = imba fail
Title: Re: :S
Post by: DoctaSpock on July 27, 2011, 02:00
lol, i pwned justice in 1v1 nevermore :D
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Natura Sonoris on July 27, 2011, 02:21
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss

cyclone with never = imba fail

justice is biggest noob and rage plugger so dont listen to him
Title: Re: :S
Post by: End on July 27, 2011, 09:52
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss

cyclone with never = imba fail

justice is biggest noob and rage plugger so dont listen to him

hahahaha
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Rocka on July 27, 2011, 10:03
you lost?
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Angel on July 27, 2011, 10:26
euls on never?  :o
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 13:16
lol, i pwned justice in 1v1 nevermore :D

yeah it was my first time playing with never im rdy anytime to pwn ur ass anytime
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss

cyclone with never = imba fail

justice is biggest noob and rage plugger so dont listen to him
i didnt plug i was lagging from beginning of game and i dont rage and plug u want proof? oh i love to use this link xD
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2014275/apeupro-1600-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2014275/apeupro-1600-1)

you lost?
he cheated in game .. and still i made first blood

HE didnt know that u cant use courier + bottle + going on runes same time .. i mean rofl I FORGOT to tell him

the score was 2 2 and my cs was much higher

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2174027/areuss (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/2174027/areuss)

anyone can watch replay if he wants His chance vs me without bottle to win is 0% and we will rmk it later

my mistake i typed -nr instead of -np in the mode hahaha even if he used bottle + courier without runes i would beat him also u can watch in replay
euls on never?  :o

yeah euls on never b/c he is a big noob who cheat in game
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Astaroth on July 27, 2011, 13:42
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss
Well I think it isn't really bad idea to get Eul's on Nevermore if playing 1v1. Mana regen + MS is good for every hero(that doesn't mean I prefer to buy Eul's for every hero, just saying the fact).
The following situation and usage of Eul's came to my mind when I read your post, Areuss:
You use cyclone on enemy (last 2.5 sec), you come to your enemy and start ulty which has 1 sec delay. So with right timing you can hit your enemy with Requiem of Souls by it's full strength, Shadowrazes will do the rest. Other advantage is that you can interrupt enemy's ulty.
So in the this case(1v1, Never v Never) can be Eul's powerful item if you are able to use it as I've described above. And additional MS can help you to avoid enemy's Shadowrazes.

What do you think about this?
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 13:53
i know about his smart strategy but it only worked cause he was using bottles + runes

cyclone FIRST of all it cost much money

second problem is that if creeps r around and u used cyclone on ur opponents .. my creeps will atk him

3rd problem is that it doesnt give stats ... and lol mana reg? for what? he was using bottle he didnt need mana reg + no stats other than int stats kinda which wont help never for sure

4th ur opponent wont tell him hey go kill me + blink cant do the same job?? and it cost less money
Title: Re: :S
Post by: joyjoy on July 27, 2011, 13:55
I just play against the_justice (1v1 - apomsh - nevermore ).I make Eul's Scepter,and he provoked me : '' your items suck,you nob etc..'' So ppl , what you mean about Eul's on nevermore  ?

 Regards --> areuss
Well I think it isn't really bad idea to get Eul's on Nevermore if playing 1v1. Mana regen + MS is good for every hero(that doesn't mean I prefer to buy Eul's for every hero, just saying the fact).
The following situation and usage of Eul's came to my mind when I read your post, Areuss:
You use cyclone on enemy (last 2.5 sec), you come to your enemy and start ulty which has 1 sec delay. So with right timing you can hit your enemy with Requiem of Souls by it's full strength, Shadowrazes will do the rest. Other advantage is that you can interrupt enemy's ulty.
So in the this case(1v1, Never v Never) can be Eul's powerful item if you are able to use it as I've described above. And additional MS can help you to avoid enemy's Shadowrazes.

What do you think about this?

this makes very sense and agree eul can be very good if used in combos and in right way but as you said its for 1v1 SF game or any other 1v1 in normal game imo its waste of gold he got any other items that makes him beast
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 14:07
guys u understand it cost 2800 gold and it wont help late game right? in 2800 gold in early game there r much items to buy
Title: Re: :S
Post by: DatFace on July 27, 2011, 14:15
Its not a bad idea , in early game you could give many fails to the anemy nevermore
but in late game sf  playing with damage and not his ulti too much ... so in late game its really a fail idea ;/
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Astaroth on July 27, 2011, 14:27
i know about his smart strategy but it only worked cause he was using bottles + runes

cyclone FIRST of all it cost much money
2800, it's 650 more expensive than Dagger. Eul's can interrupt his ulty. I know with dagger you can just blink away but it is possible that he will hit you first to disable your dagger. If he trys to do ulty you can interrupt it + you can do ulty, it is like a counter weapon.
second problem is that if creeps r around and u used cyclone on ur opponents .. my creeps will atk him
Well this isn't big problem imo, if all goes right, he will kill you in 3-4 secs. I think he will not get killed by creeps.
3rd problem is that it doesnt give stats ... and lol mana reg? for what? he was using bottle he didnt need mana reg + no stats other than int stats kinda which wont help never for sure
When using bottle you don't need big mana regen, I agree here but does Dagger gives you any stats?
4th ur opponent wont tell him hey go kill me + blink cant do the same job?? and it cost less money
It can do same job. You can blink to him and he can disable you by Eul's and ulty you, just as I've said above. Or you both have Dagger, you blink to him, he blinks away...

but in late game sf  playing with damage and not his ulti too much ... so in late game its really a fail idea ;/
Maybe, it is all about how long will the game take. If you kill him 3 times by using Eul's, you'll get much stronger + he will lost his souls so game can be quite quick.

So I think Eul's can be maybe better or maybe worse than Dagger. But I wouldn't say he is noob or it is fail coz of this. Imo it is other way...

Title: Re: :S
Post by: tbk|GOLDY on July 27, 2011, 14:32
i respect all you've guys written so far... but can someone please tell me one thing?


What's a "never"?


:s
Title: Re: :S
Post by: HotBarbecuesBack on July 27, 2011, 14:41
it's... (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbsx6x_muppet-manamana_videogames)
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 14:45
well astaroth i just wonna tell u that in 1v1 sf we dont use ulti b/c its waste of time (while ur trying to do ulti) ur opponent will just type z and use normal hits which will deal much more + blink allows u to use 3 razes in a free way +before someone actually make blink or cyclone someone would already make fb and its kinda gg

astaroth lets play 1v1 and buy cyclone as first item what u think? and lets c how the useless ulti of never will deal damage before i already killed u before that 1 sec charge


goldy: when we mean never we mean sf shadow fiend nevermore w/e u like to name him

hotbarbe: stop coming everytime and ruin a discussion or a topic .. if u have something about the topic u wonna say ur welcome other than that u can gtfo
Title: Re: :S
Post by: HotBarbecuesBack on July 27, 2011, 14:49
Sorry I'm ruining a topic about teh_jutssice in 1v1 and nevermore-euls. I'm feeling ashamed.

Trololol.
Title: Re: :S
Post by: DatFace on July 27, 2011, 14:50
Sorry I'm ruining a topic about teh_jutssice in 1v1 and nevermore-euls. I'm feeling ashamed.

Trololol.

what a troller

trololololololol
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Astaroth on July 27, 2011, 15:16
well astaroth i just wonna tell u that in 1v1 sf we dont use ulti b/c its waste of time (while ur trying to do ulti) ur opponent will just type z and use normal hits which will deal much more + blink allows u to use 3 razes in a free way +before someone actually make blink or cyclone someone would already make fb and its kinda gg
All I said was about ulty, when you are not using it than Eul's is pretty useless. The only advantage of Eul's is bonus MS than. And for 2800 it isn't worth it. So Dagger wins.
I didn't know that, I'm not SF expert or so...
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 15:58
well astaroth i just wonna tell u that in 1v1 sf we dont use ulti b/c its waste of time (while ur trying to do ulti) ur opponent will just type z and use normal hits which will deal much more + blink allows u to use 3 razes in a free way +before someone actually make blink or cyclone someone would already make fb and its kinda gg
All I said was about ulty, when you are not using it than Eul's is pretty useless. The only advantage of Eul's is bonus MS than. And for 2800 it isn't worth it. So Dagger wins.
I didn't know that, I'm not SF expert or so...

mate using ulti in 1v1 is total fail thats the thing i wanted to say
Title: Re: :S
Post by: HotBarbecuesBack on July 27, 2011, 17:12
Raping the only enemy carry in 1v1 and then pwning the rest of the 4-armor-support-heroes in 5v4 is total fail. Indeed. Even more if you used your ulti to kill the carry!

Thx for the tip THE_JUSTICIAN.
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Natura Sonoris on July 27, 2011, 17:35
Funny justice ,you gave wrong link.Put one when you played vs us and got anal raped and started afking and whooola RAGE NOOB PLUG DETECTED.

Also you cant be pro if you picked never maybe 2 months ago. You could barely know hot farm if you did not pick never before. Neither expreriance 1v1 matches that are way different from 5v5 and item builds is different. Also pwned you with techies ,even you bough gem and i said only wards ,still got anal raped hard.
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 18:17
Funny justice ,you gave wrong link.Put one when you played vs us and got anal raped and started afking and whooola RAGE NOOB PLUG DETECTED.

Also you cant be pro if you picked never maybe 2 months ago. You could barely know hot farm if you did not pick never before. Neither expreriance 1v1 matches that are way different from 5v5 and item builds is different. Also pwned you with techies ,even you bough gem and i said only wards ,still got anal raped hard.

1st i didnt plug i had lags from beginning of game u can ask final and i give link when i got 0 16 with lina and i didnt plug + u think i will feed 0 3 in less than 5 minutes? and with invoker?
2nd about techies u cheated i said no wards or gem or dust but u still used wards idc if u said only wards it was my rules and conditions cheer

P.S i played never 1v1 many times dont worry about me

and what wrong link ? me vs areuss link is correct check it again
Title: Re: :S
Post by: areuss on July 27, 2011, 18:33
I really do not care what others say,imo Eul's is IMBA ITEM FOR SF (1V1).
Justice,you're nob,was owned in game against me and start afking.I am not pro SF, didnt say that,you just call me in chanel to play 1v1.As i  said you,call your crew,we can play 5v5.Cya

Title: Re: :S
Post by: Natura Sonoris on July 27, 2011, 18:42
Funny justice ,you gave wrong link.Put one when you played vs us and got anal raped and started afking and whooola RAGE NOOB PLUG DETECTED.

Also you cant be pro if you picked never maybe 2 months ago. You could barely know hot farm if you did not pick never before. Neither expreriance 1v1 matches that are way different from 5v5 and item builds is different. Also pwned you with techies ,even you bough gem and i said only wards ,still got anal raped hard.

1st i didnt plug i had lags from beginning of game u can ask final and i give link when i got 0 16 with lina and i didnt plug + u think i will feed 0 3 in less than 5 minutes? and with invoker?
2nd about techies u cheated i said no wards or gem or dust but u still used wards idc if u said only wards it was my rules and conditions cheer

P.S i played never 1v1 many times dont worry about me

and what wrong link ? me vs areuss link is correct check it again

I was host of game so there are my rules and i said it before game started. It was on you to either accept it or not. Also if you dont know gem advanatge versus wards than kill yourself and before that break pc
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Lordzako on July 27, 2011, 19:12
Funny justice ,you gave wrong link.Put one when you played vs us and got anal raped and started afking and whooola RAGE NOOB PLUG DETECTED.

Also you cant be pro if you picked never maybe 2 months ago. You could barely know hot farm if you did not pick never before. Neither expreriance 1v1 matches that are way different from 5v5 and item builds is different. Also pwned you with techies ,even you bough gem and i said only wards ,still got anal raped hard.

1st i didnt plug i had lags from beginning of game u can ask final and i give link when i got 0 16 with lina and i didnt plug + u think i will feed 0 3 in less than 5 minutes? and with invoker?
2nd about techies u cheated i said no wards or gem or dust but u still used wards idc if u said only wards it was my rules and conditions cheer

P.S i played never 1v1 many times dont worry about me

and what wrong link ? me vs areuss link is correct check it again

I was host of game so there are my rules and i said it before game started. It was on you to either accept it or not. Also if you dont know gem advanatge versus wards than kill yourself and before that break pc
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Sarevok on July 27, 2011, 19:16
So fucking funny xD Gogogo PD.UE, show us your amazing intelligence random pro wannabes. Omg, just go to the www.iamfuckingidiot.com (http://www.iamfuckingidiot.com) and checkout the "WHY AM I A RETARD?" button, you got clearly written there that EUL is MADE for 1vs1 sf, perfect item.

Most funny shit is that some randomz are tryin' to justify this shit being made on sf xD Dying from laughing... O boy, i lost all my faith in this place xD

Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 27, 2011, 20:23
I really do not care what others say,imo Eul's is IMBA ITEM FOR SF (1V1).
Justice,you're nob,was owned in game against me and start afking.I am not pro SF, didnt say that,you just call me in chanel to play 1v1.As i  said you,call your crew,we can play 5v5.Cya

was pwned and afk? jajaja yy sure when u break the rules of sf 1v1

Funny justice ,you gave wrong link.Put one when you played vs us and got anal raped and started afking and whooola RAGE NOOB PLUG DETECTED.

Also you cant be pro if you picked never maybe 2 months ago. You could barely know hot farm if you did not pick never before. Neither expreriance 1v1 matches that are way different from 5v5 and item builds is different. Also pwned you with techies ,even you bough gem and i said only wards ,still got anal raped hard.

1st i didnt plug i had lags from beginning of game u can ask final and i give link when i got 0 16 with lina and i didnt plug + u think i will feed 0 3 in less than 5 minutes? and with invoker?
2nd about techies u cheated i said no wards or gem or dust but u still used wards idc if u said only wards it was my rules and conditions cheer

P.S i played never 1v1 many times dont worry about me

and what wrong link ? me vs areuss link is correct check it again

I was host of game so there are my rules and i said it before game started. It was on you to either accept it or not. Also if you dont know gem advanatge versus wards than kill yourself and before that break pc
u didnt say wards r allowed before start .. put link and quote where u said in lobby that wards r allowed k? no i dont know gem advantage versus wards :DDD i wont kill myself and i wont break pc
So fucking funny xD Gogogo PD.UE, show us your amazing intelligence random pro wannabes. Omg, just go to the www.iamfuckingidiot.com (http://www.iamfuckingidiot.com) and checkout the "WHY AM I A RETARD?" button, you got clearly written there that EUL is MADE for 1vs1 sf, perfect item.

Most funny shit is that some randomz are tryin' to justify this shit being made on sf xD Dying from laughing... O boy, i lost all my faith in this place xD



well tnx for supporting but in same time this isnt a place for trolling u could say it in more polite way
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Melissa on July 27, 2011, 21:30
its imba on 1v1 ...
Title: Re: :S
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on July 27, 2011, 21:35
Euls + phase and u walk into him and ulti  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: :S
Post by: bemus_ on July 27, 2011, 21:39
euls can be viable and good choice if you have huge advantage and u can troll build :D
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Sauzer on July 30, 2011, 21:40
it's... (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbsx6x_muppet-manamana_videogames)

lol
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on July 31, 2011, 19:07
lol, i pwned justice in 1v1 nevermore :D
what i didnt hear it very well :D can u repeat it again pls?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Melissa on August 01, 2011, 22:41
lol, i pwned justice in 1v1 nevermore :D
what i didnt hear it very well :D can u repeat it again pls?  ;D ;D
just read it once again ;)
Title: Re: :S
Post by: SaintKnight on August 04, 2011, 18:29
I really do not care what others say,imo Eul's is IMBA ITEM FOR SF (1V1).
Justice,you're nob,was owned in game against me and start afking.I am not pro SF, didnt say that,you just call me in chanel to play 1v1.As i  said you,call your crew,we can play 5v5.Cya
1v1 SF? I wanna try your eul tactix  ;D
Title: Re: :S
Post by: Alucardo on August 04, 2011, 18:42
I really do not care what others say,imo Eul's is IMBA ITEM FOR SF (1V1).
Justice,you're nob,was owned in game against me and start afking.I am not pro SF, didnt say that,you just call me in chanel to play 1v1.As i  said you,call your crew,we can play 5v5.Cya
1v1 SF? I wanna try your eul tactix  ;D
gg saint won rmk?
Title: Re: :S
Post by: areuss on August 06, 2011, 13:01
/w me in game,i am online 24 h ;p