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Title: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 19:52
Well i got banned for MH here: http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,62635.0.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,62635.0.html)


mod says: " After checking 5 more his games I am 100 % sure u are MHer" --- What games?
                 "You didn't miss one single rune in all those games" - What games? in that game when i play Pudge i dind missed rune becouse i going up and down lane to gank whole game...
                  "Hooking riki in invisi 2 times in a row" - I posted screenshots to explain those situations, in 1st situation we nuked wisp, he wass near me whit low hp, when i started hook to finish him he linked out and i got rikimaru, riki wass behind wisp, if u carefully look those photos u will see what hapened, in situation 2 wass masive battle, troll wass low hp and start going back, i used phase boots to make position for hook, and hooked in fog in direction where trol run, i got riki again invisible ofc i dind use slow and dind kill riki invislible....
                   "You always know when they are Rosh" -- They wass 1 time roshan only and there are screenshot about roshan gank, i saw trol mid who going near roshan, also i saw pig near roshan and thats all in minute 28.. to hard to guess where tehy are whit trol who has decent items. --- CHECK SCREENSHOTS
                    "Using ulti with Zeus when someone is low hp" -- Ofc i use ulti on low hp to get frag, if i use ulti on hero who wasnt invisible for me or something u have to post before bann me for that, am glad to see and explain situations.....
                    "Avoiding ganks" -- There are screenshot when i avoid only one gank in that game, i SAW them coming from up lane, there is screenshot about that.....


If u have smoething more to explain i am here, i have no any kind of cheats, from partibot till now whit that acount, i know louP who wass in that game whit trol, we had no carry, i did my best in that game to win...  played as well and there no any kind of cheat, i hope some decent moderator will check this

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 30, 2011, 20:09
u move ur ass from mid to roshan at the same time they were attack ok

avoid gang almost 3 games wow super so u r god in dota play right
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 20:11
I want to see this games -- easy to explain.. put them here pls whit time, like i  say i know they will go roshan when i saw trol middle in sc
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 30, 2011, 20:11
MR. doctaspok  check 5 games and u do the same never miss rune always know where it is no wards ok u right its ur game play again avoid gang hock etc... what is this i will check 10 games of u and i will report reven and plz dont spamm with post we will check it and we will get back to ASAP
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 20:14
In these games also:

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1879648/smile (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1879648/smile)

Throwing ulti on Luna when she had low hp.Mirana throws arrow on you and you stoped so arrow can pass in front of you.

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1)

Didn't missed one single rune.And one more thing here.U had low hp coz tinker was spamming u and u didn't went to look for rune coz u knew that ursa took it,so u waited 2 more mins for next rune.


http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1850213/sdeupros-1-9 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1850213/sdeupros-1-9)

Again u didn't missed ONE SINGLE RUNE!


So tell me how is that possible?!I never saw someone with that much 'luck'.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 20:16
In these games also:

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1879648/smile (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1879648/smile)

Throwing ulti on Luna when she had low hp.Mirana throws arrow on you and you stoped so arrow can pass in front of you.

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1)

Didn't missed one single rune.And one more thing here.U had low hp coz tinker was spamming u and u didn't went to look for rune coz u knew that ursa took it,so u waited 2 more mins for next rune.


http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1850213/sdeupros-1-9 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1850213/sdeupros-1-9)

Again u didn't missed ONE SINGLE RUNE!


So tell me how is that possible?!I never saw someone with that much 'luck'.






Can u pls add time?
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 20:19
What time dude?Watch replay,you didn't miss one single rune in every game.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 30, 2011, 20:22
u play with pudge in that game min 4 rune was taken by the other team so u didnt go to check cuz u know that he took it so min 7 run was also down what a luck u go for it u didnt go up to check cuz u know also it was down min 9 u go take inv rune and go up and about 3 rune its ok cuz u going from top to down and u check lan its ok but its not lucky no thats what i think in this game so i check more games of u
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 20:29
Ok ok easy, there i will explain luna situation, there is screenshoot, i saw luna low hp 150hp, no teleport, no hp regen, nothing, i just w8 for cd ulti and killed, simple, i will explain everything but easy

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 20:32
I just want u to explain me all those runes.And most important WHY U DIDN'T GO FOR RUNE WHEN U WERE LOW HP?!You knew that there is no rune coz ursa took it.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 20:40
u play with pudge in that game min 4 rune was taken by the other team so u didnt go to check cuz u know that he took it so min 7 run was also down what a luck u go for it u didnt go up to check cuz u know also it was down min 9 u go take inv rune and go up and about 3 rune its ok cuz u going from top to down and u check lan its ok but its not lucky no thats what i think in this game so i check more games of u





When i playing bottle i play phase bots to run around pick up runes and gank.. i cant check every rune in every game to explain, i will explain now ursa situation
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 20:58
I just want u to explain me all those runes.And most important WHY U DIDN'T GO FOR RUNE WHEN U WERE LOW HP?!You knew that there is no rune coz ursa took it.




Ofc i know there no rune for this time when ursa took it, i saw ursa whit rune like u can see in this screeshot, lol what u here speak about so lame, u dind even check carefully replay

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 21:08
I will check 2-3 more ur games.In all those games u never missed one singe rune dude.How is that possible?
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: sw33t_girl on May 30, 2011, 21:27
I reviewed his order times with parser help. The timing he gave his orders; turning, moving or any other reflex movement were not affected because of any invisible or in FoW units. At least for that particular game, he got a bit lucky with starting runes that's correct, but runes appeared exactly on the places he ganked. I asked myself; if there were -np mode in that game I would follow same paths for gank? Yes I would, so I call it luck. There was nothing in that game which made me say "Omg mh!". Every suspicious movement had it's explanation.  ;)

Edit: I'm talking about this ^^' http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,62635.0.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,62635.0.html)
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: raven on May 30, 2011, 21:29
Docta & ger star check one more game each of u. Search game history for mid chars like sf, butch, strygwyr, alchemist etc. Write your cocnlusions with links and times in rep. Meanwhile ill check those 3 that u posted already.

@alien - if they were wrong u will be unbanned - u just need to wait some.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 21:30
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1777370/dota-5v5-appro1650-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1777370/dota-5v5-appro1650-1)

Again he is not missing runes.

I will check more games.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 21:34
I reviewed his order times with parser help. The timing he gave his orders; turning, moving or any other reflex movement were not affected because of any invisible or in FoW units. At least for that particular game, he got a bit lucky with starting runes that's correct, but runes appeared exactly on the places he ganked. I asked myself; if there were -np mode in that game I would follow same paths for gank? Yes I would, so I call it luck. There was nothing in that game which made me say "Omg mh!". Every suspicious movement had it's explanation.  ;)

Edit: I'm talking about this ^^' http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,62635.0.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,62635.0.html)

Pls check other games also.This guy never missed one single rune.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: imbaianced43 on May 30, 2011, 21:37
I think u cant ban so easy about that with runes.. maybe is luck, in other situation if its all ok u should unban him.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: Sauzer on May 30, 2011, 21:38
Perma banned? I saw quickly the first replay; he has only a rly good view of minimap (luna situation is easy 4 a ppl that took zeus)

Riki & troll situation is not a mhers but only a good & smart pudge

About runes i have no idea, mby pro ppl always go check them, I dunno but to permaban u must be sure, with proof, not only an opinion.

Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: imbaianced43 on May 30, 2011, 21:40
Right x)
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: End on May 30, 2011, 21:43
Sometimes I get lucky and pick 3-4 runes in row, but you didn't missed one rune for more then 3 games? That's weird...
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 21:47
I am checking game buy game and he didn't missed one single rune so far.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 21:50
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1777370/dota-5v5-appro1650-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1777370/dota-5v5-appro1650-1)

Again he is not missing runes.

I will check more games.






Well for 1st time u post some situations, where i used mh, banned me for that, i explain everything whit clear screennshoots, clear explaination, and in the end u got runes only, am telling u again i cant check all runes in all games to explain, i have no time, i am here 4 hours to explain to u some things, i have many games 1000 and more, expirience tell me when trol can  go roshan if u understand (but i explain whit screenshots also), looking another player whit bottle i can imagine where and when rune can be, missing hero from down or up side whit full hp, where he going? to check rune etc or gank, am playing whit phasebots running around, , did i gank some hero low hp in fog, when i play pudge i have low creeps killed, am going gank etc, i have very low games played whit bottle, if i know where is runes should i play any game whit bottle? ROFL Maybe i got lucky in some runes finding, u speak in about 5 games in my 1000+ games in partibot and pd bot and u give a reson for ban - rune find- this is lol, ur explaination for this ban i poor, am clear player go check all replays
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 21:54
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1777370/dota-5v5-appro1650-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1777370/dota-5v5-appro1650-1)

Again he is not missing runes.

I will check more games.







Well for 1st time u post some situations, where i used mh, banned me for that, i explain everything whit clear screennshoots, clear explaination, and in the end u got runes only, am telling u again i cant check all runes in all games to explain, i have no time, i am here 4 hours to explain to u some things, i have many games 1000 and more, expirience tell me when trol can  go roshan if u understand (but i explain whit screenshots also), looking another player whit bottle i can imagine where and when rune can be, missing hero from down or up side whit full hp, where he going? to check rune etc or gank, am playing whit phasebots running around, , did i gank some hero low hp in fog, when i play pudge i have low creeps killed, am going gank etc, i have very low games played whit bottle, if i know where is runes should i play any game whit bottle? ROFL Maybe i got lucky in some runes finding, u speak in about 5 games in my 1000+ games in partibot and pd bot and u give a reson for ban - rune find- this is lol, ur explaination for this ban i poor, am clear player go check all replays


I am dude,and so far u didn't missed one single rune.That is fu....g impossible!
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 22:06
Am bored of u and your runes, this is only what u can say ... becouse your Luna, riki, trol, roshan, pudge hooks situation failed to high so u can explain urself what u did here, if i know where is runes i will play any fu..ng game whit ES or some hero nuker like lina or something whit bottle and pick up all runes around, u wasting my time here. i dont know reason, some admins hate me becouse i got many wins where they lost, maybe that is reason, for runes i can say only thinking- expirience - moving enemy hero- luck and i have max 10 games whit bottle played and u still speak about that games where i find 10 runes in 1000 games omf
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 30, 2011, 22:12
Am bored of u and your runes, this is only what u can say ... becouse your Luna, riki, trol, roshan, pudge hooks situation failed to high so u can explain urself what u did here, if i know where is runes i will play any fu..ng game whit ES or some hero nuker like lina or something whit bottle and pick up all runes around, u wasting my time here. i dont know reason, some admins hate me becouse i got many wins where they lost, maybe that is reason, for runes i can say only thinking- expirience - moving enemy hero- luck and i have max 10 games whit bottle played and u still speak about that games where i find 10 runes in 1000 games omf

10 max?dude i watched 20+ games when u were middle with bottle...u didn't miss one single rune...we are waiting for raven's answer right now...
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 22:21
Am bored of u and your runes, this is only what u can say ... becouse your Luna, riki, trol, roshan, pudge hooks situation failed to high so u can explain urself what u did here, if i know where is runes i will play any fu..ng game whit ES or some hero nuker like lina or something whit bottle and pick up all runes around, u wasting my time here. i dont know reason, some admins hate me becouse i got many wins where they lost, maybe that is reason, for runes i can say only thinking- expirience - moving enemy hero- luck and i have max 10 games whit bottle played and u still speak about that games where i find 10 runes in 1000 games omf

10 max?dude i watched 20+ games when u were middle with bottle...u didn't miss one single rune...we are waiting for raven's answer right now...


Beliive me if i know where rune is i will play any games whit ES or some hero like him and i will not hard farm for arcane 15 min, maybe i got lucky sometimes but those situations is in 1000 games




I explain to u everything, LUNA. TROL, RIKI, ROSHAN, GANK everything what u post here if u have any more situation am glad to explain, i cant explain when i find rune, rune must be there if no hero missing, u just need to pick up
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: tardlordnumberone on May 30, 2011, 22:26
http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1)

u wrote in cca 17 min up uberfeeded, they were pushing mid and u go top where is cent in wood without mana to stun and ofc with score 1/0 so he didnt die long time. after u kill him/or lancer u walk through river finding invis down kk w/e and u go mid u kill one and u try to escape. but EXPLAIN ME SITUATION AFTER 23 MINUTES. u directed your pudger to wood again and after to the river sooner than lancer up crossed rune spot. cause u had to see that another invis is down. only 4 heroes were there like np. i dont wanna talk about 100 percent rune picking. i wrote today one mh request and my opinion is there.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: bemus_ on May 30, 2011, 22:33
What's the fuss about runes, when I play, let's say pudge, I runewhore whole game and pick almost all of them till I get scepter or smth than I stop and pick maybe every 3rd 4th or when I pass by rune spot and it's there :S and for this kills, maybe he's one of those people who watch minimap from time to time and doesn't cry "OMG NOOB TEAM NO SS" etc so he finds low hp heroes (when I play heroes with global skills - zeus, invoker, clockwerk, ancient apparition etc. I always check other lanes from time to time to see if there is any low hp runing) :S


Anyway, alien, one tip for you.
You need to develop a habbit (like I did), people will oftenly cry about mh when u pwn them, and if u don't use it take some random screen shots ingame so u have proofs and all of ur problems will be solved :D I played Invoker, sun struck some fleeing heroes during game, took screen shots how I aimed it and how it hit (if it hit) and there is no problem now.

Btw, In game for which he got banned for, I don't see any sign of mh. He was going to gank side lanes and runes spawned right when he was going there, just luck. When he was going back from top to mid, rune wasn't top so he went bot to pick it up, it's simple logic not mh and just some  runewhoring.

I'm not trying to act mighty and smart just point out some facts. I've never seen on any server or... ANYWHERE so much cries about mh than on pd.eu, jesus people stop being so paranoid, if someone owns you it doesn't mean he's using mh or hacks. :S

Also, If I was mistaken and he has mh (which I doubt), I apologize for this wall of text. :D

Best regards
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: ¶ÑÇƦ€Ƿ¦ßŁΞ on May 30, 2011, 22:39
Docta spock and Star, you have been pwned.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 22:45
What's the fuss about runes, when I play, let's say pudge, I runewhore whole game and pick almost all of them till I get scepter or smth than I stop and pick maybe every 3rd 4th or when I pass by rune spot and it's there :S and for this kills, maybe he's one of those people who watch minimap from time to time and doesn't cry "OMG NOOB TEAM NO SS" etc so he finds low hp heroes (when I play heroes with global skills - zeus, invoker, clockwerk, ancient apparition etc. I always check other lanes from time to time to see if there is any low hp runing) :S


Anyway, alien, one tip for you.
You need to develop a habbit (like I did), people will oftenly cry about mh when u pwn them, and if u don't use it take some random screen shots ingame so u have proofs and all of ur problems will be solved :D I played Invoker, sun struck some fleeing heroes during game, took screen shots how I aimed it and how it hit (if it hit) and there is no problem now.

Btw, In game for which he got banned for, I don't see any sign of mh. He was going to gank side lanes and runes spawned right when he was going there, just luck. When he was going back from top to mid, rune wasn't top so he went bot to pick it up, it's simple logic not mh and just some  runewhoring.

I'm not trying to act mighty and smart just point out some facts. I've never seen on any server or... ANYWHERE so much cries about mh than on pd.eu, jesus people stop being so paranoid, if someone owns you it doesn't mean he's using mh or hacks. :S

Also, If I was mistaken and he has mh (which I doubt), I apologize for this wall of text. :D

Best regards




Ty for suport and i can say if ppl want to be moderators they should have dota expiriencei think i will never play pudge again on this bot becouse they cry so much hshs


In this screenshot u can see rune find fail, so u fail i can find more sry for bad screenshot my paint get hot

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 30, 2011, 22:46
Docta spock and Star, you have been pwned.

plz don't spamm with idiot post
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 22:52
Rune fail 2

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: Baalik on May 30, 2011, 22:55
Am bored of u and your runes, this is only what u can say ... becouse your Luna, riki, trol, roshan, pudge hooks situation failed to high so u can explain urself what u did here, if i know where is runes i will play any fu..ng game whit ES or some hero nuker like lina or something whit bottle and pick up all runes around, u wasting my time here. i dont know reason, some admins hate me becouse i got many wins where they lost, maybe that is reason, for runes i can say only thinking- expirience - moving enemy hero- luck and i have max 10 games whit bottle played and u still speak about that games where i find 10 runes in 1000 games omf

10 max?dude i watched 20+ games when u were middle with bottle...u didn't miss one single rune...we are waiting for raven's answer right now...


Beliive me if i know where rune is i will play any games whit ES or some hero like him and i will not hard farm for arcane 15 min, maybe i got lucky sometimes but those situations is in 1000 games




I explain to u everything, LUNA. TROL, RIKI, ROSHAN, GANK everything what u post here if u have any more situation am glad to explain, i cant explain when i find rune, rune must be there if no hero missing, u just need to pick up

I'm pretty sure there are many more MH-ers, who use it only to have a better view of whole game.
There are enough smart ppl, who are aware of MH detecting techniques and can only be convicted of MH by minor errors (like rune picking, gang avoiding etc.). And the reason, why they use it? 1-2 random "lucky" events can win the game.

If you are smart enough, you will not play a rune hero every game as it would be really easy to convict you of MH;)
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 22:59
rune fail no 3 and no4 in that game when u report me min 16 and min 17-20. This is waste of my time

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 30, 2011, 23:13
what about this game

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1)

min 5:55 going for up rune haste didnt check down but u go up street again min 9:40 going for rune down inv didnt check for rune up u just go for it again min 11:40 u go for hast to avoid gang but its luck its on ur way of running min 23:33 inv run i don't want to watch more replay of u cuz every single replay u don't miss rune omg its up to reven now
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on May 30, 2011, 23:15
Just stop spamming this topic and w8 for reply of head hax mod raven^.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 23:19
what about this game

http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1 (http://playdota.eu/stats/game/1867543/rdeu-1-1)

min 5:55 going for up rune haste didnt check down but u go up street again min 9:40 going for rune down inv didnt check for rune up u just go for it again min 11:40 u go for hast to avoid gang but its luck its on ur way of running min 23:33 inv run i don't want to watch more replay of u cuz every single replay u don't miss rune omg its up to reven now
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in that game i posted 4 rune fail, there is fails for another game no1.
 i dind miss runes? did u saw my last 4 post?

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: AskMe_Iwill_Answer on May 30, 2011, 23:19
Calm down guys...

Obviously you can't accuse someone only because of runes... my god...

You're all talking about runes and you say that he don't miss any single rune... Eitherway that's not true and I will explain you why...

Runes appear every 2 minutes, from the minute 0:00...

So because of that he should take about 30 runes per game, and that doesn't happen because he miss a lot of runes.

You should show us trully proves that he is maphacking, not only talking about runes... becase every single player knows that runes appear every 2 minutes and the position of the rune is half random, not full random... I mean...

First rune is random, (suppose top), it's a 50%
Second rune it's 25% top. If it gets top. Third rune it's 12%, but if it's down... then... down it will be 25%

But ofcourse you don't know that because only me knows that :)
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 23:24
Calm down guys...

Obviously you can't accuse someone only because of runes... my god...

You're all talking about runes and you say that he don't miss any single rune... Eitherway that's not true and I will explain you why...

Runes appear every 2 minutes, from the minute 0:00...

So because of that he should take about 30 runes per game, and that doesn't happen because he miss a lot of runes.

You should show us trully proves that he is maphacking, not only talking about runes... becase every single player knows that runes appear every 2 minutes and the position of the rune is half random, not full random... I mean...

First rune is random, (suppose top), it's a 50%
Second rune it's 25% top. If it gets top. Third rune it's 12%, but if it's down... then... down it will be 25%

But ofcourse you don't know that because only me knows that :)




i post at least 5-6 rune fail in those gamesi cant check anymore, they fail i know becouse i have nothing to hide, explained every situtaion and at least prove them that i fail sometimes whit rune in that last 5 post whit screenshots
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: LexMonster on May 30, 2011, 23:30
I think we should ask castiele about this ;)
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 23:33
I am checking game buy game and he didn't missed one single rune so far.


I ill make it easy for raven to see, i found those pictures in 5 min checking of 2 replays

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Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 30, 2011, 23:40
I think we should ask castiele about this ;)




Go ask him look what he speak about me:


"When i see ppl in lobby like alien and other whiners,i simple leave"
"And alien u are hypocrite" and more quote from here: http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27468.15.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27468.15.html)




He will suport me ROFL
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: tardlordnumberone on May 30, 2011, 23:53
I am checking game buy game and he didn't missed one single rune so far.


I ill make it easy for raven to see, i found those pictures in 5 min checking of 2 replays

do u know what u posted? no rune was on the whole map. and u went gang or like in first case red dot was there - enemy hero. that wasnt rune hunting. when u would go for rune u WOULD hit it cause u are runehunter with advantage and it provides kills and towers. still think that u use it only sometimes - some games. but if u use it makes u untrustworthy once for all. like in this game even it was noob game.

why dont u say: first gang down + rune down. i knew that there was invis down (i dont need check it up, noobs) i just waited on mid to let them (bottom line) little bit push. when they did i rushed from mid and pawned them like little kids. with these screens u make fool yourself...
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: Natura Sonoris on May 31, 2011, 00:03
These situations make huge problems.

I wont mention one more situation like this ,since it is done with it. But lets continnue:

-Alien has good skill  even he started playing there ,so even with MH orno MH he would manage good games.
So now it is hard to judge either he is Mher or not. If i used MH i would simply make everyone beleive i dont use it by missing some runes or even dont go for free kill ; situation like i see trax with 50 hp using lothar and he takes path that none would predict it and i still find him and kill him - thats pure MH.

So ,( idont call you MHer alien ) ,you could missed those runes just to use that as proof you did not use any kind of hack ,also i know you play on Xpam for some time and you use that nick quite often,and with that nick you made name here (more less) ,so if you were caught for mhing you could simply make new account ,but it seems your nick is important to you ( my prediction,could be wrong) so try to defend yourself. As well your nick's stats.

So my suggestion is check for some random prediction ganks ,like : Lets check there ,and woooala ,enemy is there,and i suggest check that when game was diffuclt to win ,so you care less about using mh and beeing caught because you just  want to win .

That much from me.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 31, 2011, 00:10
These situations make huge problems.

I wont mention one more situation like this ,since it is done with it. But lets continnue:

-Alien has good skill  even he started playing there ,so even with MH orno MH he would manage good games.
So now it is hard to judge either he is Mher or not. If i used MH i would simply make everyone beleive i dont use it by missing some runes or even dont go for free kill ; situation like i see trax with 50 hp using lothar and he takes path that none would predict it and i still find him and kill him - thats pure MH.

So ,( idont call you MHer alien ) ,you could missed those runes just to use that as proof you did not use any kind of hack ,also i know you play on Xpam for some time and you use that nick quite often,and with that nick you made name here (more less) ,so if you were caught for mhing you could simply make new account ,but it seems your nick is important to you ( my prediction,could be wrong) so try to defend yourself. As well your nick's stats.

So my suggestion is check for some random prediction ganks ,like : Lets check there ,and woooala ,enemy is there,and i suggest check that when game was diffuclt to win ,so you care less about using mh and beeing caught because you just  want to win .

That much from me.




How i can defend myself more than i do this? i explanied everything whit screenshots if u read all from beginig,
explained every game posted here, at least i posted when i fail whit rune, i have another acount here whit good stats, 1700+ i can play on that acc is not a problem but i want to explain here that am not cheater thats all, everyone is free to check my games
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 31, 2011, 00:22
me see alot of MHer and i play with many pudge and i prema ban 100 pudge player cuz they use hockes and non missing rune so as icy said its true but i think that if ur not 100% mh ur r so damm lucky player and that what i don't believe its impossible u got that much luck i know ur pro and u care about ur nick name cuz u play hard to get that state

me 80% pure hack and smart while u use it (very smart guy)  :P

20% not MH but lucky and i didnt see that luck with a player before ever ever

good luck m8 and i don't have any thing against u i hope we r wrong about u and get unbaned ASAP and we own u apology big time if ur not a MHer really and don't get mad  just we r human and we can make mistakes


at the end i really really hope that we r wrong we don't feel happy when we prema ban som1 who got MH we don't use power abuse here

Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: X-PLODE on May 31, 2011, 00:24
alien can't lasthit or do a moving enemy hook, runewhoring is easy and i do it with tiny all the time.
anyway i saw replay cos i didn't wanna dota so i watched this instead and i see no mh, riki was behind wisp and got hit when wisp tethered away at 100mph then he tried to hook troll and got riki in the way again.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 31, 2011, 00:34
alien can't lasthit or do a moving enemy hook, runewhoring is easy and i do it with tiny all the time.
anyway i saw replay cos i didn't wanna dota so i watched this instead and i see no mh, riki was behind wisp and got hit when wisp tethered away at 100mph then he tried to hook troll and got riki in the way again.




Unlucky rikimaru
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: castiele on May 31, 2011, 00:40
Ofc ill support you im your fan number 1
First u never left lobby,u are kicked,cuz back in past i thought u are mher,u talking about whiners and look ur posts 3 pages of crying about "abuse"+ spaming your friends moderators about this Polska,NightMustFall and few others,you did that last time remember?,this for runes is pure luck and very easy to explain,like u did,u have my support for that and that cant be considered like MH in worst case its 50/50 but somehow you have 99 percent in some situations u gave up cuz some heroes like akasha,magina,mirana,wind still travel a little bit faster of others and u know very well there is no chance to race with them...

But pls try to explain us how u know exactly when they try to gank,ill be polite to explain better,several times u overplayed your opponent and he was forced to go back heal or shop but u still continue with farm without bothering and having idea(maybe he preparing to gank me)hero go back toward fountain chick come and bring heal in same time his ally took invi after he finished creeping in wood and preparing to gank you,you going back,no SS,no Wards,No signal of warning from your allies,simple back when his ally preparing to gank you,and when he going in base you staying on lane finishing your creeps,how is posible you always know when they are on roshan and dont think when is ursa,troll,lycan in game and u can expect early kill with lifesteal by them,in few games they went to roshan and realize they cant kill him and decide to try more luck in wood ganking some of your allies who was bottom lane,but somehow u signaled exact postion of them,and signals i love your signals its amazing somehow always signal exact position with mistake of 100-200 range in dota metric system,i can uderstand u realized they are wood and u signal random wood,and that word "random"its very hard to find in your games,you always know somehow WHERE and WHEN,call it luck,long experience personally dont give a sheet...if u ask me about what game exactly u can take any of your games from PD,almost every of them have 10-15 odds and alot lucky situations...

Pls alien dont think i hate you or dont love you or kinda,before in past you made me angry cuz u flamed one of my friends and later tried to present him like flamer but u initiate it,i fully understand you what currently u passing,its very hard to play those games its very stressfull and somehow boring,controling self to avoid to click on hero,units and shop if isnt in your range,that risk one wrong click can screw your pro gaming isnt acceptable,and you found self very nice in that situation...

I think u dont have a MH you are one of 1001 turkish luckers i banned in past before they demote me...

Best regards
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: [GER]S.T.A.R on May 31, 2011, 00:47
castiele  ur my biggest n1 fan  ;D   
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 31, 2011, 00:50
I think we should ask castiele about this ;)




Go ask him look what he speak about me:


"When i see ppl in lobby like alien and other whiners,i simple leave"
"And alien u are hypocrite" and more quote from here: http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27468.15.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27468.15.html)




He will suport me ROFL


Thats i speaking about... ur opinion is always agains me, i wont comment




btw i know, u checked many my replays before, becouse u hate me, but why u dind banned me, there is no reason u can speak only like this thats u have only... oh u banned me 1 time and this ban wass deleted after 10 mins i forgot- but why? Becouse there was no reason just pure hate hahah
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: Natura Sonoris on May 31, 2011, 00:51
I think we should ask castiele about this ;)




Go ask him look what he speak about me:


"When i see ppl in lobby like alien and other whiners,i simple leave"
"And alien u are hypocrite" and more quote from here: http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27468.15.html (http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27468.15.html)




He will suport me ROFL


Thats i speaking about... ur opinion is always agains me, i wont comment

Even he hates you , he has right.

Also i beleive even more you have MH.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: raven on May 31, 2011, 00:54
@ Alien - i know u since partidilla times. If u were some random guy with less experience i wouldnt even bother to check more ( 4 reps so far) . I cant honestly say u have hax. I also cant honestly say that i believe u dont have it.

@all- dont complain on hax mods cause they did their job properly. Mostly in such cases its clear hax. Anyway this situation is slightly different.

My proposition for u is:

U have screenshot program. make sure it will be working in future ( trial etc). someday - mby tomorrow mby in 1 month - when i see u online , ill ask u to make ss ( in that moment) and send it to me by pm.   Ill do this one time only, not to bother u. If u will get ban that time for afk or something u will be instantly unbanned. Anyway when the time comes i will not accept any excuses. I think its fair way to end this. If  u accept this terms ill unban u in a moment. Im going to use this technique in future also in similar cases. so - do u agree?
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 31, 2011, 00:58
Ofc i agree. I can use printscren buton and paste in paint? i mean i have no special program for this
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: raven on May 31, 2011, 01:01
y u can. Its settled then

!unbanned
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: a.l.i.e.n on May 31, 2011, 01:02
Thanks
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: castiele on May 31, 2011, 01:06
GerStar u mean u are my fan,right;)

Alien there isnt anything with hate,we are all here more less adult ppl,pls answer on my question or explain them,u can use SS,but u realize always can be viewed with 2 sides
Before we had that Issue with flaming and u left server on some time (4-5months)i planed to ban u for mh after some time,but u already gone and now u are come back mocking this community cuz u have moderator friends...

Raven WHO?
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: raven on May 31, 2011, 01:14
its kinda late castiele and im quite tired. so plz more precise - what who? :S u mean who support him in  staff or ...?:S
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: castiele on May 31, 2011, 01:14
Exactly
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: ¶ÑÇƦ€Ƿ¦ßŁΞ on May 31, 2011, 01:18
castiele  ur my biggest n1 fan  ;D   
>
plz don't spamm with idiot post


At the topic, did you guys played roulette?
Trying to get some easy money putting 10e on RED, and boom here comes the RED, your bet got doubled.
It's the same as going on top rune and getting double damage.
So basically what I want to say is, you can't judge on someone's movements up and down, 'cus he didn't missed rune.
Well, I didn't missed RED 12 times in a row, and got 300e, luck or h4x?

I honesty find this not as abuse of moderators power, but as lack of Map Hack knowledge, you guys got tired of this work, you have no right to ban someone if you have no clear evidence of the hacking.
I agree whit Castiele's post has some sense, at least more sense then respond of those DoctaSpock and GerStar.
If you ban, you have to know why you did it, not only check the replay and see, oh he got 5 runes in a row, pure MH, well maybe he is map hacker, yet you have no rights to ban him.
You know why? 'Cus you have no evidence.

People do a lot of criminal activities at this planet, robbery, extortion, ravishment, even murder.
You think all of them got to jail?
Many of them are free and never caught, 'cus of lack of evidence, what i want to tell you is don't ban people if you have no right to.
Maybe keep him on eye, waiting for his mistake, clicking someone in fog or any other way of recognizing the Map Hacker user.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 31, 2011, 01:20
@ Alien - i know u since partidilla times. If u were some random guy with less experience i wouldnt even bother to check more ( 4 reps so far) . I cant honestly say u have hax. I also cant honestly say that i believe u dont have it.

@all- dont complain on hax mods cause they did their job properly. Mostly in such cases its clear hax. Anyway this situation is slightly different.

My proposition for u is:

U have screenshot program. make sure it will be working in future ( trial etc). someday - mby tomorrow mby in 1 month - when i see u online , ill ask u to make ss ( in that moment) and send it to me by pm.   Ill do this one time only, not to bother u. If u will get ban that time for afk or something u will be instantly unbanned. Anyway when the time comes i will not accept any excuses. I think its fair way to end this. If  u accept this terms ill unban u in a moment. Im going to use this technique in future also in similar cases. so - do u agree?



ok...let's try that raven...
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: raven on May 31, 2011, 01:24
Exactly

i can honestly say i didnt recieve other pm than from hax mod

EDIT: anyway - case solved. Lock topic plz
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: DoctaSpock on May 31, 2011, 01:27
castiele  ur my biggest n1 fan  ;D   
>
plz don't spamm with idiot post


At the topic, did you guys played roulette?
Trying to get some easy money putting 10e on RED, and boom here comes the RED, your bet got doubled.
It's the same as going on top rune and getting double damage.
So basically what I want to say is, you can't judge on someone's movements up and down, 'cus he didn't missed rune.
Well, I didn't missed RED 12 times in a row, and got 300e, luck or h4x?

I honesty find this not as abuse of moderators power, but as lack of Map Hack knowledge, you guys got tired of this work, you have no right to ban someone if you have no clear evidence of the hacking.
I agree whit Castiele's post has some sense, at least more sense then respond of those DoctaSpock and GerStar.
If you ban, you have to know why you did it, not only check the replay and see, oh he got 5 runes in a row, pure MH, well maybe he is map hacker, yet you have no rights to ban him.
You know why? 'Cus you have no evidence.

People do a lot of criminal activities at this planet, robbery, extortion, ravishment, even murder.
You think all of them got to jail?
Many of them are free and never caught, 'cus of lack of evidence, what i want to tell you is don't ban people if you have no right to.
Maybe keep him on eye, waiting for his mistake, clicking someone in fog or any other way of recognizing the Map Hacker user.


You didn't even bother to watch one replay and you are coming here saying we banned him without proof.He didn't collect 5 runes in a row.He collected all of them.He didn't missed one single rune!!!And stop spamming this topic,it is allready solved.Someone pls lock this.
Title: Re: Admin power abuse or maybe mistake
Post by: mrNiceguy on May 31, 2011, 01:27
Ok to prevent further spam.

Case solved.

And I m very glad that a.l.i.e.n did not just gave up and said who cares, I m glad that he has fight back for his rights. It is perfect example of how all users should behave, he did not insulted anyone nor he did not raged in any post.

Locked!