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Strategy Discussion Section => Strategy => Topic started by: ATeaMPlaYeR on January 09, 2010, 23:18
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Post here new ideas about what could be nice to buy to a specific hero, and explain why you think it would be nice.
I will post my ideas later.
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(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/107/icon.JPG) Techies:
Much Mana. I think is the only techies need. But very much. Often I build 1 tp + full clarity potions (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/22/thumb.jpg) for start game.
Later, i buy power treads (int) if cant buy travels and:
# 1 Option - x3 sobi mask (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/15/thumb.jpg) + x3 Robe of the magi (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/36/thumb.jpg) for later orchid malevolence (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/100/thumb.jpg) <-- only if cant #2 option (3 void)
# 2 Option - x 3 Void Stone (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/61/thumb.jpg) and try to get mystic staff (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/62/thumb.jpg) for later get Guinsoo (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/99/thumb.jpg)
Now u have really good mana reg then you can spam mines stuns & ultis in whole map, especially mines (between 4 and 6) + stuns (x 1) on ramps (In the top) and run away zones.
You should place Remote mines/Stuns in runes areas and rosh (also in their forest for gank), like a sentry wards. I prefer Remotes for see map (not for kill/gank) and stuns for prevent kills/ganks.
By the way, techies should buy courier (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/29/thumb.jpg) and share it ^^ (also buy, if you can and your team need, arcane ring (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/123/thumb.jpg))
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Nice one, but I'd like to see something awesome. Here I am going to post mine.
The hero: Omniknight (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNArthas.gif)
Items: (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNIceShard.gif)
+ (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNAdvancedMoonArmor.gif)
+ (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNSpiritLink.gif)
28% slow + 20 % slow + 25% slow (PASIVE) + 40% Slow (ACTIVE)
So, balanar, which can have 500 ms easily would move like this... 500 - 28%(500) = 360; 360 - 20%(360) = 288; 288 - 25% (288) = 216; (PASIVE!); 216 - 40% (216) = 130 MS.
Balanar won't scape anymore ;-)
THANK YOU ILUV AND MYUBER FOR THE INFO. ;-)
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erm...if i am not mistaken, lycan in wolf form is max speed 522ms even in sheep form...So I dont think any slows
can actually slow him down...right?
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YOU ARE RIGHT. I will change lycan with balanar xD
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Shapeshift (Lycan's ulti)
• Cannot be slowed by any spell, including Purge.
• If hexed, Lycanthrope continues to move at maximum movespeed.
• Lycanthrope's collision size is lowered in this state.
• While in this state, Lycanthrope will have a Base Attack Time of 1.4 seconds.
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Nice one, but I'd like to see something awesome. Here I am going to post mine.
Techies Rulz :D. I know is not really "hero" but is funny ;)
The hero: Omniknight (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNArthas.gif)
Items:
(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNIceShard.gif)
(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNAdvancedMoonArmor.gif)
(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNSpiritLink.gif)
Ofc omni :D
erm...if i am not mistaken, lycan in wolf form is max speed 522ms even in sheep form...So I dont think any slows
can actually slow him down...right?
yeh D=
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HERO: BLOODSEEKER (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNShaman.gif)
ITEM: (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HbP-tmppDp8/Sqb_bq0ngxI/AAAAAAAAAdg/qGRT6jtQYag/icon4[4].jpg)
Sometimes, when you use ultimatum in a hero, he runs a little but he notice he is blooding so he stops. The only you have to do is to use force staff, and he will move 500 units.
At level 6 it's 20% based on movement done, so 20% of 500 = 100. At level 16 it's 60% of 500 = 300. I will put a replay where I use it on a hero, then tiny launch the hero to me and I use force staff = gg. :D It's a funny item. It's not the best item but if you feel pro, taste it :D
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(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/74/thumb.gif) Meppo
Items:
- Your common items, vlad (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/122/thumb.jpg), mek(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/121/thumb.jpg), etc
- Lothar (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/77/thumb.jpg)
Playing:
Invi -> Look for enemy alone enemy hero, Earthbind (E) + uberfast Poof (F) => Dead
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(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/74/thumb.gif) Meppo
Items:
- Your common items, vlad (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/122/thumb.jpg), mek(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/121/thumb.jpg), etc
- Lothar (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/77/thumb.jpg)
Playing:
Invi -> Look for enemy alone enemy hero, Earthbind (E) + uberfast Poof (F) => Dead
Sometimes I get lothar as core item (for geo), but I prefer Dagger (gems, wards... make lothar useless).
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HERO: BLOODSEEKER (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNShaman.gif)
ITEM: (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HbP-tmppDp8/Sqb_bq0ngxI/AAAAAAAAAdg/qGRT6jtQYag/icon4[4].jpg)
Sometimes, when you use ultimatum in a hero, he runs a little but he notice he is blooding so he stops. The only you have to do is to use force staff, and he will move 500 units.
At level 6 it's 20% based on movement done, so 20% of 500 = 100. At level 16 it's 60% of 500 = 300. I will put a replay where I use it on a hero, then tiny launch the hero to me and I use force staff = gg. :D It's a funny item. It's not the best item but if you feel pro, taste it :D
LOL,imba...didnt knew for this
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Kunnka:
PT + BF + Armlet + BKB(or Lothar)-(all in 30minutes);
Then get Kellen and HoT.
Finish game asap.
All you need is good last hit.
And good first item build: 2 Branches, 2 Grauntles, + heal and tango, 600 gold.
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(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/74/thumb.gif) Meppo
Items:
- Your common items, vlad (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/122/thumb.jpg), mek(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/121/thumb.jpg), etc
- Lothar (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/77/thumb.jpg)
Playing:
Invi -> Look for enemy alone enemy hero, Earthbind (E) + uberfast Poof (F) => Dead
Get kellen, meka, vlads, PT(30mins enough) + Manta, late game + shiva or assult.
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Get kellen, meka, vlads, PT(30mins enough) + Manta, late game + shiva or assult.
I prefer phase boots, they give 24/48/72/96 damage (and 70ms) for 1500gold.
Manta - There are better items and manta doesn't give the clones anything.
Shiva - Geo is not a tank and again clones don't get anything.
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;D
oh my God,
U so pro guys!!
:P
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Hero:
Batrider> (http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/117/thumb.jpeg)
Item:
Force Staff>(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/102/thumb.jpg)
Force [item skill] to enemy hero + ultimate >(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/117/skill-3.jpg)
Ultimate Enemy hero + force your self [now can double click]
Double clicking on Force Staff will act as if you had targeted yourself
;D
oh my God,
U so pro guys!!
:P
JAsam, Post some item build :D
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Force staff is the item which is good on next heroes:
Dark seer,
Veng,
CM,
SK,
RHasta,
Lion,
Lina,
Silencer,
Rexxar,
Enigma, etc.(example)
It is fine early game item, in late game is kinda useless.
But i prefer lothar or kellen(imba escape/ganking items);
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It is fine early game item, in late game is kinda useless.
But i prefer lothar or kellen(imba escape/ganking items);
Not always suck in late :D
*I have played with techies last game, and force was useful!
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where did u get those icons? ???
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where did u get those icons? ???
Most icons are from PlayDotA.com (http://playdota.com/).
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HERO: BLOODSEEKER (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNShaman.gif)
ITEM: (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HbP-tmppDp8/Sqb_bq0ngxI/AAAAAAAAAdg/qGRT6jtQYag/icon4[4].jpg)
Sometimes, when you use ultimatum in a hero, he runs a little but he notice he is blooding so he stops. The only you have to do is to use force staff, and he will move 500 units.
At level 6 it's 20% based on movement done, so 20% of 500 = 100. At level 16 it's 60% of 500 = 300. I will put a replay where I use it on a hero, then tiny launch the hero to me and I use force staff = gg. :D It's a funny item. It's not the best item but if you feel pro, taste it :D
wow fail like to do such a item as force staf since bs got high base dmg with queling blade soloing in lane ur basicly unkillable (not mentioning ganks) so since harassing not a big proble u can farm easy so 13~mins including helping lane mates to gank with rupture is more than enought to farm radiance then another 2-5 mins for recipe and boots of speed and fun begins ofc u can rush dagon for burst power but radiace > all clearly
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wow fail like to do such a item as force staf since bs got high base dmg with queling blade soloing in lane ur basicly unkillable (not mentioning ganks) so since harassing not a big proble u can farm easy so 13~mins including helping lane mates to gank with rupture is more than enought to farm radiance then another 2-5 mins for recipe and boots of speed and fun begins ofc u can rush dagon for burst power but radiace > all clearly
This thread is for new and strange builds...
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNVoidWalker.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNLothars.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNTransmute.gif)
I think this doesn't need explanation jejejejejejejejejejejejejejejejeje.
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where did u get those icons? ???
playdota.com -> Heros/Items (click 2nd button, copy url image)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNVoidWalker.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNLothars.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNTransmute.gif)
I think this doesn't need explanation jejejejejejejejejejejejejejejejeje.
...it does...it sux...
:D :D :D :D
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNVoidWalker.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNLothars.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNTransmute.gif)
I think this doesn't need explanation jejejejejejejejejejejejejejejejeje.
1 problem till u farm this 2 items u will be ganked bilions of times and they will be worth nothing
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNVoidWalker.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNLothars.gif)
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(http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNTransmute.gif)
I think this doesn't need explanation jejejejejejejejejejejejejejejejeje.
1 problem till u farm this 2 items u will be ganked bilions of times and they will be worth nothing
...also...Radiance + WW = oposing team automaticaly gets gem or dust...so...ur screwed...if ofc ur oponents have a brain...
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(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/118/thumb.jpg) - Invoker
Item:
(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/14/thumb.jpg)
Skill:
(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/118/skill-12.jpg) + (http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/118/skill-11.jpg)
and if you are fast pressing words, can cast too (http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/118/skill-4.jpg) ministun <- OWNED
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...in order to play invoker to the FULL requires non stop attention to the hero...and thats why hes one of the most imba...
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...in order to play invoker to the FULL requires non stop attention to the hero...and thats why hes one of the most imba...
yeah, and? xD Only is a "rare" item build.
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ONLY WITH WTF MODE!
STORM -> (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNStorm.gif)
Item -> (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNAdvancedMoonArmor.gif)
Strategy: Use ultimatum (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNStormReach.gif).
When you are using ultimatum you are immortal. Now, to regen mana, use Shiva's guard quickly.
You will do 1000 damage per second and you will be able to go side to side in less than 10 seconds.
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Hero:
Batrider> (http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/117/thumb.jpeg)
Item:
Force Staff>(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/102/thumb.jpg)
Force [item skill] to enemy hero + ultimate >(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/117/skill-3.jpg)
Ultimate Enemy hero + force your self [now can double click]
Double clicking on Force Staff will act as if you had targeted yourself
;D
oh my God,
U so pro guys!!
:P
JAsam, Post some item build :D
ok u asked for it try:
hero: (http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/54/icon.JPG)
item: (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/72/icon.jpg)
item: (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/59/icon.jpg)
dont need to explain on ulty rules,
u can use only basher but if u have enough money for both use both :D
is it ok ramb.E :D
or:
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Well shivas makes lag = banned item in wtf. Just go ulti + spam raremnt on ur way to regain mana.
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Oh I don't have lag when I use shiva in my good computer hehe. But anyway I say it because of his immortality. Ofc this must be banned 'cause it's impossible to kill him even with zeus because ulti's storm makes him immortal and you can be always in ulti form by changing the direction of the ultimatum before arrive the place.
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He's not "immortal(lol)" when he's using grapple.
And force staff cancels bat shackle i think.
And all of these builds i have seen often and done myself.
Post some wtfhax builds or else ban.
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This guy:
(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/26/character.gif)
(http://www.playdota.com/img/items/101/icon.jpg) + (http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/26/skill-3.jpg) = Serpent Prision
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...heres a build that i used for fun...and it payed out ;D...
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=15113
(the item missing is PTreads)
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...heres a build that i used for fun...and it payed out ;D...
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=15113
(the item missing is PTreads)
Butterfly missing.
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...heres a build that i used for fun...and it payed out ;D...
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=15113
(the item missing is PTreads)
Butterfly missing.
... :O good idea...damn why didnt i think of it...
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Nice one, but I'd like to see something awesome. Here I am going to post mine.
The hero: Omniknight (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNArthas.gif)
Items: (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNIceShard.gif)
+ (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNAdvancedMoonArmor.gif)
+ (http://web.dota-allstars.com/static/images/dota/BTNSpiritLink.gif)
28% slow + 20 % slow + 25% slow (PASIVE) + 40% Slow (ACTIVE)
So, balanar, which can have 500 ms easily would move like this... 500 - 28%(500) = 360; 360 - 20%(360) = 288; 288 - 25% (288) = 216; (PASIVE!); 216 - 40% (216) = 130 MS.
Balanar won't scape anymore ;-)
THANK YOU ILUV AND MYUBER FOR THE INFO. ;-)
imagine this with PANDA as an ally.. Clap slows, his 2nd slows too, phase and s&y (slow from sange) ms= LoL
check this gameinfo which I just finished
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=22723
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Today, playing with my friend [cr9]revenge (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=144637) i saw:
Naix
(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/122/thumb.jpg)
(slow)
(http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/122/skill-2.jpg) + (http://www.playdota.com/img/items/14/thumb.jpg)
gg