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Strategy Discussion Section => DotA Discussion => Topic started by: FatalityMk on February 03, 2010, 17:54
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can i ask why do people like so much to play ap modes... this is my second topic about ap modes... pls if u are pro players do not play ap modes... i enter bnet and when i search for a game i can see only ap games, why do u like so much, maybe cuz u can get the best hero and go for stats? i dont know exactly but pls do not pub the game with PRO, it sucks... i just wish i was a bnet staff i would have banned ap mode for life :@
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The truth is PRO players have to know skills of all heroes. They should know weakness of each hero.
But should pro players play only -ar or -sd?
No.
Modes like -ar sucks, because of randomness, you can get 5x nukable int/agi heroes, and the opposite team can get 5x stun/nuke. You think you can win that game? If your enemies are smart enough to use that advantage - you lost, no matter what will you do.
-ap is pro mode, because you can counter each pick of enemies. You can choose tactic and your own role in your team.
Players that play always the same heroes are not so pro as they think they are...
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
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...this topic already exists,right ?...
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can i ask why do people like so much to play ap modes... this is my second topic about ap modes... pls if u are pro players do not play ap modes... i enter bnet and when i search for a game i can see only ap games, why do u like so much, maybe cuz u can get the best hero and go for stats? i dont know exactly but pls do not pub the game with PRO, it sucks... i just wish i was a bnet staff i would have banned ap mode for life :@
Lol, real pros play ap/cm/cd... And people play ap cuz they wanna play with their favorite hero or maybe they wanna try some build on a specific hero...
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
Pugna = anti Magina! Buy Ghost Scepter and max Decrepify ftw ^^
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The truth is PRO players have to know skills of all heroes. They should know weakness of each hero.
But should pro players play only -ar or -sd?
No.
Modes like -ar sucks, because of randomness, you can get 5x nukable int/agi heroes, and the opposite team can get 5x stun/nuke. You think you can win that game? If your enemies are smart enough to use that advantage - you lost, no matter what will you do.
-ap is pro mode, because you can counter each pick of enemies. You can choose tactic and your own role in your team.
Players that play always the same heroes are not so pro as they think they are...
modes like -ar or -sd are the best, the heroes that are given in those modes are counter to each other it is just the style and skill of the player to make the hero the best...and yes i think i can win the game with those 5x nukable int/agi vs 6x stun/nuke... it all matters at the beggining and which heroes go with each other on lane. get for example 5 range vs 4 melee and 1 range, harasment all day long and the melee wont even have chance to kill a creep little long to kill a hero... i have often found myself in situations like this with 5x nukers int/agi and thought i had no chance of winning, but my team made 5-10 kills in the first 10 minutes, we got fed up so much that if u send 20 heroes after us we still would have won... it is not the hero u play that matters, it is the style and the skill u have at the beggining of the game...
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=10740 check this link, this is what we picked on sd mode, they all laughed at me for picking silencer against magina...but... if we start the same teams again did u think we would have won?? i masacred them with silencer, 1 on 1 agains ursa, viper on all of them...i even fought agains 2 at the same time and yet we won
is it immposible?? think again before u write anything
PRO players that play ap are not PRO`s...
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How can any1 waste time posting on this topic..... WAIT i am posting!
Just stfu about game modes. If some1 likes to play apem all the time its his choice.Simply ignore those games as I do and dont post on forums.... people are free to play what they like.
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http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=10740 check this link, this is what we picked on sd mode, they all laughed at me for picking silencer against magina...but... if we start the same teams again did u think we would have won?? i masacred them with silencer, 1 on 1 agains ursa, viper on all of them...i even fought agains 2 at the same time and yet we won is it immposible?? think again before u write anything PRO players that play ap are not PRO`s...
Where there is argument for PRO players that play ap are not PRO`s...
?? i dont see it. Your post is about your game not about topic.
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How can any1 waste time posting on this topic..... WAIT i am posting!
Just stfu about game modes. If some1 likes to play apem all the time its his choice.Simply ignore those games as I do and dont post on forums.... people are free to play what they like.
...true...we already discussed this...and it borred the shit out of us...so pls just drop it...
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this was also brought up back in the partibot forums.
ar = LUCK and only luck incase both teams are pro and i really hate this mode since my team always ends up with the shittiest combo ever against 5 stunners or 4 stunners + 2 disablers.
ap / cd / cm / rd / sd = combo picks for a team to play together (or try new builds for ap that is)
people who say ap mode is for noobs r noobs themselves. 5v5 playing apemomfr are 10 noobs in a game but 10 in an ap mode arent noobs (atleast not always).
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
Pugna = anti Magina! Buy Ghost Scepter and max Decrepify ftw ^^
oh rly ? after 2-3 decripfys which u can evade with ur bkb and blink u simply 1 hit him with mana void
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
Pugna = anti Magina! Buy Ghost Scepter and max Decrepify ftw ^^
oh rly ? after 2-3 decripfys which u can evade with ur bkb and blink u simply 1 hit him with mana void
leaving magina out of the equation.
what about tc+sk+akasha combo. tc stun sk dagger in and ulti while tc ulti gets rdy then akasha ulti once tc ulti hits them. 3 ultis hit at once, sk or akasha gets rampage.
what about slark stealing the few str and hp points those poor int players have, sure get dust. and while u try to atk that fast moving tiny object dont forget to hex and stun those other 4 players who 2 of them have blink and aoe.
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
Pugna = anti Magina! Buy Ghost Scepter and max Decrepify ftw ^^
oh rly ? after 2-3 decripfys which u can evade with ur bkb and blink u simply 1 hit him with mana void
leaving magina out of the equation.
what about tc+sk+akasha combo. tc stun sk dagger in and ulti while tc ulti gets rdy then akasha ulti once tc ulti hits them. 3 ultis hit at once, sk or akasha gets rampage.
what about slark stealing the few str and hp points those poor int players have, sure get dust. and while u try to atk that fast moving tiny object dont forget to hex and stun those other 4 players who 2 of them have blink and aoe.
There are at least 10 different ways to start a fight, from that point of view look at the possibilities and combos. It's like arguing which are stronger, black or white figures on the chess table.
Now, I don't see that -ap mode is for noobs. The truth is, most pub games have noobs in it and the game mode will not make it any different. I don't pay attention too much to game modes, -rd / -ap / -sd , whatever. I play random many times in ap, but also joining ap games to practise some hero, or purely to have fun with nice arrows/hooks/torrents, whatever turns you on. :D
People play whatever they want to play, period.
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=10740 check this link, this is what we picked on sd mode, they all laughed at me for picking silencer against magina...but... if we start the same teams again did u think we would have won?? i masacred them with silencer, 1 on 1 agains ursa, viper on all of them...i even fought agains 2 at the same time and yet we won
is it immposible?? think again before u write anything
PRO players that play ap are not PRO`s...
u must be proud by killing some random noobs who was autoattacking on creeps
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PRO players that play ap are not PRO`s...
Yeah because obviously all dota tournaments are rd sd and ar as opposed to cm and ap ^^
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today on ar mode our team got ezalor , enchantress , enigma , pugna and dazzle while enemies had
MAGINA <------- all fucking int heros pwned by him k ? , sand king , akasha , tauren chieftain and slark so which team had more chanses to win that game ? thats why only noobs play ar sd and crapy modes like that
cm/cd/rd/ap for skilled players nothing else
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=10740 check this link, this is what we picked on sd mode, they all laughed at me for picking silencer against magina...but... if we start the same teams again did u think we would have won?? i masacred them with silencer, 1 on 1 agains ursa, viper on all of them...i even fought agains 2 at the same time and yet we won
is it immposible?? think again before u write anything
PRO players that play ap are not PRO`s...
u must be proud by killing some random noobs who was autoattacking on creeps
not exactly but their stats did not say they were noobs...
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p.s.
another example
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=18679
5 range: 1 agi, 4 int... team: silecner, sniper, panda(inteligence panda not pandaren :D ) , lina, obsidian (repicked from dazzle) 4melee 1 range: enemy team: treant, centaur, clockwerk, bristleback and chen...
imposible to win? yet we did, it was a close game but we emerged victorious..
so ppl pls stop playing that stupid ap game, at least dont call ur selfs pros for playing it...
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hahahahaha
fatality i saw you play .. you are a not even 1/100 of a pro, and yet you sit here arguing about what REAL PROS ! ( such as yourself XD ) play ...
... besides that NO COMMENT . just ignore him and people like him.
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hahahahaha
fatality i saw you play .. you are a not even 1/100 of a pro, and yet you sit here arguing about what REAL PROS ! ( such as yourself XD ) play ...
... besides that NO COMMENT . just ignore him and people like him.
Deathfiend we glad that some 100% PRO told to us something about FatalityMk
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hahahahaha
fatality i saw you play .. you are a not even 1/100 of a pro, and yet you sit here arguing about what REAL PROS ! ( such as yourself XD ) play ...
... besides that NO COMMENT . just ignore him and people like him.
Deathfiend we glad that some 100% PRO told to us something about FatalityMk
Hhahahah yea glad u cleared that out . Deathfiend GOSu ;D
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saw the replays
btw heroes dont win the game , but people playin it.
Congratz
btw Ursa >>>> Silencer
zzz
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XD well im also glad two nobodies said that ! amazing.
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In 90% of games team play won. But I choose every my pick careful and look not to have misspick (unless I pick 1st - rd mode).
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ar or ap, i dont care, i just -random and its ok:)
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with -ar you get chaos and inbalance, thats why i dont prefer it . with -ap and -cm u get to build a team, put some thought and strategy into it and have a nice and smooth game
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hahahahaha
fatality i saw you play .. you are a not even 1/100 of a pro, and yet you sit here arguing about what REAL PROS ! ( such as yourself XD ) play ...
... besides that NO COMMENT . just ignore him and people like him.
omg i missed out on this topic :D now i am seeing it lool man u are so funny.. now i would be glad, i mean reeeeeally glad if i play agains u anytime soon so u can see if i am pro or 1/100 of pro as u say it xD and true team play is what counts 90% of games and like deathfiends stats i see that 50/100 games of his he did not give any team play at all :D that is why u lose so much and the other half of wins i say those are of beating poor noobs or semipros with bad begining... so really man first see if u are to be measured anywhere near pro status then u can say if others are pros or now... omg this was so funny i even had tears on my eyes :D thx man for cheering me up :D
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hahahahaha
fatality i saw you play .. you are a not even 1/100 of a pro, and yet you sit here arguing about what REAL PROS ! ( such as yourself XD ) play ...
... besides that NO COMMENT . just ignore him and people like him.
omg i missed out on this topic :D now i am seeing it lool man u are so funny.. now i would be glad, i mean reeeeeally glad if i play agains u anytime soon so u can see if i am pro or 1/100 of pro as u say it xD and true team play is what counts 90% of games and like deathfiends stats i see that 50/100 games of his he did not give any team play at all :D that is why u lose so much and the other half of wins i say those are of beating poor noobs or semipros with bad begining... so really man first see if u are to be measured anywhere near pro status then u can say if others are pros or now... omg this was so funny i even had tears on my eyes :D thx man for cheering me up :D
i have no desire to teamplay with noobs, i just end up dying cause i expect my team to be as fast as i am (i forget im playing with "playforstatsplayers"), "players" that go b till i get red hp on some and die .. happened a thousand times, so excuse my STATS sir ... but i guarantee you that those STATS show ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about how someone plays, and i think i proved that to you in some games today .. but i guarantee you that was absolutely nothing .. stick around and ill show you the real deal ..
thats all for now
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You wanna try playing with me sometime Deathfiend?
If u fail i flame you just like i do most others.
Stats don't mean shit unless you can take care of yourself with any hero and farm/deny/harass.
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hahahahaha
fatality i saw you play .. you are a not even 1/100 of a pro, and yet you sit here arguing about what REAL PROS ! ( such as yourself XD ) play ...
... besides that NO COMMENT . just ignore him and people like him.
omg i missed out on this topic :D now i am seeing it lool man u are so funny.. now i would be glad, i mean reeeeeally glad if i play agains u anytime soon so u can see if i am pro or 1/100 of pro as u say it xD and true team play is what counts 90% of games and like deathfiends stats i see that 50/100 games of his he did not give any team play at all :D that is why u lose so much and the other half of wins i say those are of beating poor noobs or semipros with bad begining... so really man first see if u are to be measured anywhere near pro status then u can say if others are pros or now... omg this was so funny i even had tears on my eyes :D thx man for cheering me up :D
i have no desire to teamplay with noobs, i just end up dying cause i expect my team to be as fast as i am (i forget im playing with "playforstatsplayers"), "players" that go b till i get red hp on some and die .. happened a thousand times, so excuse my STATS sir ... but i guarantee you that those STATS show ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about how someone plays, and i think i proved that to you in some games today .. but i guarantee you that was absolutely nothing .. stick around and ill show you the real deal ..
thats all for now
Real pros dont need to explain themselfs to anybody. They are well known as a good players or noobs. If someone have 100+ games stats must mean something.
Like here http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=47060 i allowed these 3 guys in my team to play becouse they had quite average stats... Finaly they just show noobest skills ive seen from couple of months:
- naga rambo 5vs1
- lancer 90% of game was alone and creeping on lanes without any sense
- rhasta died so fast that I cant say much about his play.
BUT they had stats good enough to play in PRO game... Interesting isnt it?
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yea u right resor, im keeping my mouth shut for now, check me out http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=47426 ( just like stats, items and k/d/a dont mean anything. im not putting any effort into pubs, this cm however reminded me of real dota(not ursa,riki,weaver,axe with 6 vanguards), so i did my best, see the results.(watch replay))
even in this replay there were 2 or 3 times, when my team went b, when we couldve easily killed them all, and i was doing almost all the work .. so whats left to say ? yeah i am a pro, i doubt you are though, and i dont even know why am i bothering answering and shit, i must be crazey.
oh and btw "If someone have 100+ games stats must mean something." yeah you are right they do, but not the win/loss, cause that depends on team, k/d/a and denies do on that number of games, i got like 150 games, like 65 wins 75 lost, and i got my k/d/a like 7/4/7, so i think thats way better than your 6/6/9 on such a high number of wins, and low loss count. and yet i got score on - and you are on rank 30 something, GREAT skill-based ranking system . but im already getting off the subject. so bb
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Dude ur so full of urself , i would like to play with you just to make sure that whats ur saying is true.
Never seen good players brag about their skill in such manner as u do.
I look forward playing with ya ;D
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yea u right resor, im keeping my mouth shut for now, check me out http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=47426 ( just like stats, items and k/d/a dont mean anything. im not putting any effort into pubs, this cm however reminded me of real dota(not ursa,riki,weaver,axe with 6 vanguards), so i did my best, see the results.(watch replay))
even in this replay there were 2 or 3 times, when my team went b, when we couldve easily killed them all, and i was doing almost all the work .. so whats left to say ? yeah i am a pro, i doubt you are though, and i dont even know why am i bothering answering and shit, i must be crazey.
oh and btw "If someone have 100+ games stats must mean something." yeah you are right they do, but not the win/loss, cause that depends on team, k/d/a and denies do on that number of games, i got like 150 games, like 65 wins 75 lost, and i got my k/d/a like 7/4/7, so i think thats way better than your 6/6/9 on such a high number of wins, and low loss count. and yet i got score on - and you are on rank 30 something, GREAT skill-based ranking system . but im already getting off the subject. so bb
Your stats telling me that you prefer to gank alone and you are mostly carry-solo player. You like to get feeded and pwn whole game alone. You have the same number of assist as kills. That telling me that you do rare cooperate with your team in team battles. Thats why you loosing so much. Im not new in this game and Im playing everyday with guys like you. Great solo, 0 teamplay, but k/d looks like PRO. Always in woods - "neutrals your worst enemy". Check this: http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=43451 119 neutrals in 1 game in 56mins! This must be a damn highscore! Sometimes its hard to kill 100+ enemy creeps on lane when battles are allover the map. You were in woods whole game man. THAT IS TEAMPLAY MAN.
You will ALWAYS loose with averate teamplayers becouse you think you can be "one man army". Its not a Quake man.
But you are MEGA PRO with 40% chance to win... And put fault on your team, becouse having you they have to play like 4/5.
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Calm down Resor ; ) never heard about this guy so dont bother ;> just another screamer
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haha noob deathfiend go away pls.
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haha noob deathfiend go away pls.
I didnt call you noob, but your playstyle isnt good for nice organized teams with proper pick.
I can pwn alone not organized teams aswell (usualy deadly carry like unstoppable trax or sniper when feeded enough), but i changed my playstyle. I care about rest of the team becouse they are also there to win this game... and together is easier :)
Sometimes my death is crucial for my teamates and its wort it.
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me imba play style ;D who wants to play with me??
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me imba play style ;D who wants to play with me??
the real question would be: who does not? :D
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But she is noob! :O
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alright man lissen :D you dont know my playstyle, i dont focus on pubs .. i just play them only for fun, if i want a real pro game, im not playing pubs, cause there is no such thing in pubs, thats why they call them pubs, i dont want to get in a whole thing with you here, cause you dont know anything about me, and i understand your primary wiew over me, i would probably see me like that too if i were you, but the thing is im not that type, and you have no ideea what you are talking about :) i was a bit angry when i wrote in this topic, so excuse me if i sounded arrogant and shit, i laughed to that.
my played heroes are ONLY for some action .. ( i have no ideea if im going to be in a team with decent players, that i can do something with. and thats just how it is. dont even try to say a support is cool to play when you have boots of speed startbuyers in your team ok ? ) thats the one of the reasons i play carry type heroes, or heroes that might appear just like the typical pub noob might want, but the thing is you cant really manage to do GREAT with pro-type, team heroes, ALL BY YOURSELF, VERSUS usual noob picked, strong, no teamplay heroes, that all pubbers pick. dont try to say otherwise cause you know this is true. or maybe you dont.
thats some reasons why i play solo heroes, and play solo, with almost no team play, cause i really dont see the point of that. im not playing an organised, -cm game, with real players, so i see no point in teamplaying, with people that i have no ideea if i can teamplay with.
so that being said, i just want you to know that my pro-picks-organised-games-play is GREAT, and if you want i can show you that. i dont give a shittydyshit about pub play
im not dying for my team in pubs, if they dont have the same mentallity. i did do that a lot at start, but what was the point of that ? now i just ended up with loosing anyway cause they couldnt manage to do anything even if i did all that i could possibly do, + die ( thus avoiding some dmg to them ) , and as a BONUS i got a high death count and loss count. now people like you come to me and say lolstatsbye, when they have no ideea who they are talking to. normally i wouldnt care less, but i do a bit cause i find it fucking hilarious. the whole deal.
P.S: i wrote this when i waited for my friends to show up and was mega bored, i saw how long this is and i laughed hard. said this so you wont add "lolretard" to your impression. not that i care tho.
bb
btw, if you really want to have some ideea about how i really play, go ahead and check this -cm game i did some days ago .. not those carry replays .. ok ? http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=47426
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Clan members and league players also do pubs. Its not true that ALWAYS in pub games you play with bunch of considering themselfs PROS pubbers. You can meet players with you can play -cm later on.
Players sometime just wait for friends to show up online and play pubs to kill time.
You know your skills but do not show in game with some real pros may couse that noone will invite you to -cm game due solo style.
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I think Sd is the best mode you got 1 Int,1 Str,1 Agi Hero so you can counter enemy heroes and that makes it balanced not Ap every game need to be IMBA heroes and anoying Heroes...Just sayin' :)
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can i ask why do people like so much to play ap modes... this is my second topic about ap modes... pls if u are pro players do not play ap modes... i enter bnet and when i search for a game i can see only ap games, why do u like so much, maybe cuz u can get the best hero and go for stats? i dont know exactly but pls do not pub the game with PRO, it sucks... i just wish i was a bnet staff i would have banned ap mode for life :@
Why? Here's why:
Sometimes I may see some new build and I badly want to play with a certain hero...
And it's better to play -Ap and type -random, you get more gold, they don't, and that way I give advantage to noobs to outpick/outplay me! ^^
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At 11pm - am make Game with RD mode turn on timer and see how fast game will fill up
Then make game with ap mode and how check how fast it will fill up.
I even meet player who considered RD mode for noobs only.
rofl
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-ap mode at 09:00 CET
All joined players friendly saying: s.a. or ME BR NO KICK ME PRO
And vote which heros to pick will be:
1) Sniper (ofc)
2) Rikimaru (maybe Gondar?)
3) Traxex (quite sure that some player MUST HAD to pick in for now)
4) Slark, Mortred, Venge, Mirana
5) PRO Axe giving first blood with I'll ambush them between their towers, and I use element of suprise trick "wich it should always work" - ITS NOT BD HE SHOUTS! (meantime he waits for respawn near fountain, disapointed that THIS time it didnt worked out.)
6) Barathrum.
#) Techies has been pickes meanwhile... and already 2 players from his team apears on drop screen, kindly suggesting that they are refusing to play 4/5 from beginning.
Conclusion: 80% of times -ap games at 09:00 CET comming to end after 30mins or ealier.
Reasons:
- 30% of players has been kicked by vote becouse they see Warcraft3 game for their first time of their life.
- 30% of players has left voluntarily, lagged out, dropped, desynced, lost connection, lost power, lost consciousness, lost will to play (WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE... STILL -1 player and +1 more reason to !rmk)
- sentinels pwn scourge so badly that they are afraid to leave fountain area (exept techies - he still plants the bombs near powerup spaws).
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can i ask why do people like so much to play ap modes... this is my second topic about ap modes... pls if u are pro players do not play ap modes... i enter bnet and when i search for a game i can see only ap games, why do u like so much, maybe cuz u can get the best hero and go for stats? i dont know exactly but pls do not pub the game with PRO, it sucks... i just wish i was a bnet staff i would have banned ap mode for life :@
Why? Here's why:
Sometimes I may see some new build and I badly want to play with a certain hero...
And it's better to play -Ap and type -random, you get more gold, they don't, and that way I give advantage to noobs to outpick/outplay me! ^^
yeah i thought u might say exactly that thing... you play versus noobs!!! u dont play versus PRO players...see what i mean u put -ap deliberatly just to play vs some noobs who think they are very good with certain hero...that is why i mean why u play ap modes...
thank u i just made my theory clear :)
now i know how and why u call urself a pro :)
ty again
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-ap mode at 09:00 CET
All joined players friendly saying: s.a. or ME BR NO KICK ME PRO
And vote which heros to pick will be:
1) Sniper (ofc)
2) Rikimaru (maybe Gondar?)
3) Traxex (quite sure that some player MUST HAD to pick in for now)
4) Slark, Mortred, Venge, Mirana
5) PRO Axe giving first blood with I'll ambush them between their towers, and I use element of suprise trick "wich it should always work" - ITS NOT BD HE SHOUTS! (meantime he waits for respawn near fountain, disapointed that THIS time it didnt worked out.)
6) Barathrum.
#) Techies has been pickes meanwhile... and already 2 players from his team apears on drop screen, kindly suggesting that they are refusing to play 4/5 from beginning.
Conclusion: 80% of times -ap games at 09:00 CET comming to end after 30mins or ealier.
Reasons:
- 30% of players has been kicked by vote becouse they see Warcraft3 game for their first time of their life.
- 30% of players has left voluntarily, lagged out, dropped, desynced, lost connection, lost power, lost consciousness, lost will to play (WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE... STILL -1 player and +1 more reason to !rmk)
- sentinels pwn scourge so badly that they are afraid to leave fountain area (exept techies - he still plants the bombs near powerup spaws).
OOOMMMMGGGG :))))))))) this is the best reply i have ever seen :)))) 100 % pure truth in what u said resor :D
from top to bottom that is exactly how it happends...
also u must put some players like elision who "realllllyyy " wants to test out some heros :))))))
i love number #) where techies still plants bombs xD
so hilarious...
this is the number 1 reply of all time !!
GOOD JOB RESOR... u have just been awarded 5 points from me...
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At 11pm - am make Game with RD mode turn on timer and see how fast game will fill up
Then make game with ap mode and how check how fast it will fill up.
I even meet player who considered RD mode for noobs only.
rofl
i can answer
rd : takes about 7-8 minutes to get players and check for stats another 7-8 minutes maybe more...
ap: takes about 1-2 minutes to get players and check for stats about 0-20 seconds before !start command is issued :D
and yes i even met players (hosts) who put AP mode just because they know that way they wont w8 for to long :D
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AR is pro mode. End of story. But dm... now thats next lvl of pro. It is just beyond godlike.
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ar noob mode . case closed normal players plays cd/cm or atleast rd other modes sux
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ar noob mode . case closed normal players plays cd/cm or atleast rd other modes sux
Lol and logic behind that statement is????
Ar means you can play with everything that is given to you. I even allways type -random on ap (im not pro im a risc taker :)) As for cm or cd, its same as rd, only it takes 10 mins before game starts, and you will allways see same team everytime you play. BORING!
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Cm or Cd is about strategy , outpicking your enemy , support , carries , tanks . Different roles. Esseniton of Dota. And Ar is - hoooooooooray i got trax lets pwn nubs.
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and on cm there is no way that someone will pick trax????
and who cares about tactic when on PD.eu most ppl play for stats and not for team.
Yes cm is true dota team game but most of the time someone leaves cause he didnt get SF and someone else did. Also on 87,3% hosts pick Potm for their selfs. So thats a true team play.
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On CM captains decide what to pick. Trax can be picked of course , but only in certain situations.
and CM is not for random pubbers who as u said will leave after lack of SF.
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On CM captains decide what to pick. Trax can be picked of course , but only in certain situations.
and CM is not for random pubbers who as u said will leave after lack of SF.
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AR is pro mode. End of story. But dm... now thats next lvl of pro. It is just beyond godlike.
I agree 100%
ar noob mode . case closed normal players plays cd/cm or atleast rd other modes sux
cd and cm is the same mode... and it is just like sd or rd, you get to pick heroes... real pros play with what they are given and own with random heroes not with picks like i want ursa, sven, tauren..they are always picked and the sole strategy is get more stuns then the other team..
Ar is made that way so that both teams will be balanced in some manner... i can`t think of any examples right now but in 90% cases it is very balanced. the key is the way the players play their hero...
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...ar and sd (and mby ap) are totally imbalanced modes ! IMO they are only for fun/when ur rly borred...tbh i stll prefer some randomness when i play so i usualy play rd nowadays...
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Cm, sd, and rd are the only good modes.
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-ap is not pro mode? And u know what REAL professionals (no we are not pros even though u think u are) played before -cm mode?
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-cm -cd -ap sometimes -rd
only modes for semi and high skilled players
-sd -ar totally imbalanced no counter picks pure luck of draft
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Only in cm / cd modes players know what is their role. All others are fun/pub modes.
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Only in cm / cd modes players know what is their role. All others are fun/pub modes.
true but not always u can play priv
for pubs only -ap sometimes -rd
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-ap is not pro mode? And u know what REAL professionals (no we are not pros even though u think u are) played before -cm mode?
y, - xl , and before played -AP with bans/picks in chat.
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You are all just bunch of noobs. -DM mode for life. Best mode ever, and this is where true skill is shown. Not ap, where you can pick one hero 10000 times and get good with him, and call yourself a pro. LOL!
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lol what a topic :D i agree that AR is for real pros, maybe CM or DM is for even better players but AP?? that is for newbies who want to be good in pro games. I`ll never join AP games because we often see the same heroes getting picked or one team to get more stun then the other and wins :D
AR for example is quite interesting. It can put one team with many stuners but no AGI or INT heroes and the other with 1 AGI carry and 4 INTS. ANd i would bet my money on the 1AGI CARRY + 4 INT team rather then the other STUNER team. Try it out you will see that each hero is countered by other hero in the oposite team.
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I think that in 99% in ap i use -random command. So i love pwning idiots who pick their easy heroes.
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You are all just bunch of noobs. -DM mode for life. Best mode ever, and this is where true skill is shown. Not ap, where you can pick one hero 10000 times and get good with him, and call yourself a pro. LOL!
I love -dm too, but i haven't seeny any single game on bnet .
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I think that in 99% in ap i use -random command. So i love pwning idiots who pick their easy heroes.
Exactly my point. Most of players that call themselfs "PROS" make AP game on purpose just becase they know noobs will join and they will own them either way :D
I love AR mode, but often play RD or SD becase there are not many AR games.
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...most of the time i play RD because SD and AR are totally imbalanced modes and because i like a bit of randomness when i play (+ planing your picks)...As Quon said these mode are pub modes...cm/cd is the real deal... 8) and ap is not for pros either... :o
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bull shit. Most of u consider CM as PRO mode. And tell me wtf is CM if not littlle changed AP. If we speak about PRO players - they should know exactly what to pick and be able to play MOST chars not just fucking favourite one.
If all players are PRO win depends on PICK/teamplay only.
Conclusion - AP definitly pro mode.
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You are all just bunch of noobs. -DM mode for life. Best mode ever, and this is where true skill is shown. Not ap, where you can pick one hero 10000 times and get good with him, and call yourself a pro. LOL!
this is secondary mode so it should not count in this topic
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There is no noob mode. There's just Vigoss, and noobs.
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...ap is potentialy a pro mode IF u have a team of your own - some ppl that u know/play with for a long time...but in pubs its only used so ppl can play with their fav heroes...
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what's -cd o.0?
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...ap is potentialy a pro mode IF u have a team of your own - some ppl that u know/play with for a long time...but in pubs its only used so ppl can play with their fav heroes...
And play against noobs to pawn better stats :P
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...exactly 8)