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« on: August 16, 2021, 14:15 »
1: NickName? Corristo 2: Who banned you? ExpertNoob 3: Why did you get banned? Because this admin can't count to 2. What second time votekick abuse are you talking about my friend? It was clarified by Shark, that in the previous case, the player was lying, and the votekick was justified. You still banned banned me. You didn't watch the replay then, did you even watch it now? 4: Reason that forced you to break the rule? Again, a player is afk-ing multiple times in INVI with bone ,staying invi even under tower, missing teamfights whole game, and feeding. Also at gangs, this player stayed in INVI, instead of helping even just with hits. What are we talknig about? It's not about kicking a nub, it's about kicking a player who refused to help! What do we have votekick option for then, if not to kick players who ruin the game, and make his team loose? Seriously, re-think about removing this option totally. Also, 7-8 players, who votekicked him (even sentinel!), see it was justified, but not this admin, who obviously is a beginner, and doesn't watch replays to make an objective judgement. 5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation. A player was ruining the game, making his team loose. His team kicked him, and I get 4 days of ban, while all others get 1 (for the same vote LOL). It could be anyone else starting the votekick, we all voted to kick this game ruiner. Please an independent admin review the replay. Also please remove my warning from the previous ban (from which i was unbanned), since the player there lied, and the votekick was justified. Why are my warns still on? Also, this isn't second time (and even for first, it's justified). Lastly, please experienced admins, review Expertnoob rights of banning players, he is lacking serious objectivity, doesn't even watch replays (as prooved at my previous ban/unban case). Thank you all and have a great day! 6: Link of the game? https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6408942
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« on: August 09, 2021, 17:54 »
1: NickName? Corristo 2: Who banned you? autoban 3: Why did you get banned? leaving 4: Reason that forced you to break the rule? I had no reason to, actually we were winning, and my team won in the end. 5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation. The electricity went off because of bad weather, and was droped. Sorry for players in that game. 6: Link of the game? https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6407196
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« on: July 29, 2021, 20:02 »
1: Your ingame nickname? Corristo 2) Moderator's nickname (as in subject). ExpertNoob 3) Why you are not happy with Moderator's decision / behavior. Bad decisions/lack of work input/lack of objective decision making. 4) Forum link / Game link. https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,200292.0.htmlMy opinion is, that this admin doesn't even watch the replays, to make an objective decision. There was this guy afk-ing multiple times, and missing teamfights multiple times. He had a votekick against him earlier, started by Redpanick, but not enough votes gained for it. He started playing a little, then went afk again. Missed teamfights, and died at ancient neutrals while afk. At his point i started a votekick because of this (at this point he had multiple afk moments already), and sentinel voted too. IT was a justifed votekick. Everyone agreed it was. So in this admin opinion (who wasn't in the game, and obviously didn't watch the replay), 7 players are wrong, and he is right. So my question is: does Expertnoob even watches the replays or just banning players based on the request? If he watches, then he is incompetent to make such decisions. Since when is votekicking a game ruiner (afk-er) is bannable? What should we do? let him keep feeding and miss teamfights? To sustain our votekick, we won the game after the votekick. That's for that. Please an exerienced admin re-watch the replay, and overwrite the decision if he sees fit.
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« on: July 29, 2021, 19:47 »
1: NickName? Corristo 2: Who banned you? [ExpertNoob] on [29-07-2021 17:56:47] 3: Why did you get banned? [Votekick abuse] 4: Reason that forced you to break the rule? The guy was AFK multiple times, and fed the enemy. (standing near neutral, and getting killed while afk). He missed teamfights multiple times. He had a warning that game already, to stop being afk and join the teamfights, but he went on afk again and again. SO the votekick was justified. 5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation. Told you at point 4. The guy was shitting on the team, and went afk multiple times. Can an admin ACTUALLY WATCH THE REPLAY?, not just banning 7 players for an afk-ing player? Thank you. 6: Link of the game? https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6404184
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« on: June 20, 2021, 08:00 »
@cen3 Also, why is it not possible to votekick the host? I dont know what the majority of players think, but in my opinion hosts shouldnt have reserved status. They can ruin games too...
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« on: June 13, 2021, 18:26 »
1: NickName? Corristo 2: Who banned you? Autobanned 3: Why did you get banned? leave 4: Reason that forced you to break the rule? had no reason to 5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation. We just started the game, a couple of minutes, then my electricity went off for a few min. Sorry for everyone in that game. 6: Link of the game? https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6394430
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« on: June 01, 2021, 07:46 »
If this isn't helping balance, then I don't know what does.
yes, exactly !
I've never seen you posting any coment with real value on this forum, beside trolling  You must be one real funny guy in the classroom.probably girls are dying for your exceptional humor. All the while you must believe yourself to be intelligent. ) Let me tell you mate: grow up you are simply pathetic xD
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« on: May 30, 2021, 19:47 »
So the simplest to implement would be too make PSR system more rewarding/punishing if the win percentage is not balanced.lets say team 1 has 80% win chance, then their psr loss should be more punishing, and winnnig less psr as it would be 50-50.
This would discourage hosts from stacking too.
(altought it wouldn't make games more balanced as KDA ratio would).
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« on: May 30, 2021, 17:22 »
Well, then balance would mean not only PSR average (as it is now), but KDA average/team too.
If this isn't helping balance, then I don't know what does.
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« on: May 30, 2021, 13:36 »
Obviously I understand what you mean. But playing 5 carries, would loose you the game, so you would loose PSR. This is why it should be 50% psr and 50% KDA ratio.
The players would play to win, and the KDA ratio would balance the lobby by players skills, not only PSR.
You can't just focus both, so players would start playing roles in game, not just everyone taking carry. And the balance comand would at least split players according to their skills...well, at least to some degree.
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« on: May 30, 2021, 12:42 »
See Cen,when I told you to consider integrating the KDA ratio into the !balance command, thus help the issue of stacking, then you told me I'm talking about two different problems.
Well, they are strongly connected to each other, this is why I said it.
So you need to form a good formula for !balance command first, to help fixing balance and stacking ultimately.
And the current PSR system in itself, is not enough. You must add somehow the KDA ratio into the formula too.
Something like psr is 50% + KDA50%. Divided into 2, will give you an individual player ''real in-game value"
Also KDA can be calculated by 33% Kill, 33%Death, and 34% Assist.
In the end, the PSR will show you how often a player wins a game, (must be 50%+ to gain PSR), and the KDA ratio will show how good that player really is in-game.
Some players would say only K/D ratio matters, but that is false. A lot of players like to play an assist role, and also players who farm all game, and let their teams down get low assist points, so making assist point all the more valuable.
A player who mostly plays support or tank role in-game, will have 4/9 K/D ratio, but maybe he has 15 assist/game. It doesn't mean that, that particular player is a feeder, but plays a supportive/tank-entry role.
The hard part is, to figure out how to create a formula, which integrates KDA ratio, rather then only the PSR.
The second part of my thoughts, is about making PSR point system more rewarding/punishing in case of unbalanced games.
The minimum point achievable should be 1 in any case, but the meantime, it shouldn't be -1 in case of loose, but let's say 10. This would discourage hosts of hard stacking.
On the other hand, if the other team wins, they should be rewarded with even more PSR (for defeating a hard stack against all odds). Instead of +8, +10 , you can double it depending on the % winrate prediction.
These are just my ideas, take what you like, and do what you can
I can only imagine how difficult can be to integrate some, or all of these into formulas...
I am willing to experiment with adding KDA into the mix but as a starting point, I need to see a lobby where:
- A: the balance formula says the game is balanced, but it is actually not, here is why..
- B: the balance formula says the game is not balanced but it actually is, here is why..
Then you can start thinking what kind of measures would correct that situation, otherwise we might be fixing imaginary scenarios.
Integrating KDA into the formula is a really bad idea. First of all, it encourages players to play for stats and pick heroes that are good at getting those stats and discourage picking supports that usually die but are essential for a good game.
For example my last 10 games with TA stats are 13.3/3.4/9.6 while my support Treant stats are 1.6/2/17.4 (it is easy to get assist since the buff is global and other supports do not get them that easy)
If you would read carefuly what I wrote, you would see, that it's the opposite. It would include ASSIST in the formula, which would be a huge boost for supportive/tank players. Also this way, you could balance the players who have high psr but low stats. (they could get big psr being just lucky in the winning team). Also encouraging players to play for stats since when it's bad?? What do you even mean its bad? players would pay attention to their stats, so they would stop throwing games.
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« on: May 30, 2021, 10:33 »
See Cen,when I told you to consider integrating the KDA ratio into the !balance command, thus help the issue of stacking, then you told me I'm talking about two different problems. Well, they are strongly connected to each other, this is why I said it. So you need to form a good formula for !balance command first, to help fixing balance and stacking ultimately. And the current PSR system in itself, is not enough. You must add somehow the KDA ratio into the formula too. Something like psr is 50% + KDA50%. Divided into 2, will give you an individual player ''real in-game value" Also KDA can be calculated by 33% Kill, 33%Death, and 34% Assist. In the end, the PSR will show you how often a player wins a game, (must be 50%+ to gain PSR), and the KDA ratio will show how good that player really is in-game. Some players would say only K/D ratio matters, but that is false. A lot of players like to play an assist role, and also players who farm all game, and let their teams down get low assist points, so making assist point all the more valuable. A player who mostly plays support or tank role in-game, will have 4/9 K/D ratio, but maybe he has 15 assist/game. It doesn't mean that, that particular player is a feeder, but plays a supportive/tank-entry role. The hard part is, to figure out how to create a formula, which integrates KDA ratio, rather then only the PSR. The second part of my thoughts, is about making PSR point system more rewarding/punishing in case of unbalanced games. The minimum point achievable should be 1 in any case, but the meantime, it shouldn't be -1 in case of loose, but let's say 10. This would discourage hosts of hard stacking. On the other hand, if the other team wins, they should be rewarded with even more PSR (for defeating a hard stack against all odds). Instead of +8, +10 , you can double it depending on the % winrate prediction. These are just my ideas, take what you like, and do what you can I can only imagine how difficult can be to integrate some, or all of these into formulas...
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« on: January 17, 2021, 10:09 »
When host presses !start, the alt tabbed players will receive the message 'game starting' and they will have 15 sec to check lobby and decide if they want to leave or not.
Thus when u are tabbed you wont have to worry about stacking.
So far this is the laziest idea. Basically you suggest to give +5 seconds on the existing 10 on the countdown, to tab back, use comands to check for locked players and SD the players you are with/or against in the lobby. This sounds like the american pandemic boost of 600$ meme: I give you +5 to fuck off  So still not a viable solution for: 1) stacking host/stacked games, 2) No improovement for a more realistic !balance comand, 3) No change to a more rewarding/punishing PSR system. Fixing these 3, or some of them would ultimately lead to more balanced games. At least if this is what you want. If you are too lazy to modify anything just close the topic and tell us to fuck off
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« on: January 15, 2021, 07:12 »
So all started because someone came and said we must do something about stacking so the games can be more balanced. Now we must ask ourselfes is that really a problem and in my opinion its not. I rarely meet stacks and friends in my games and even if i do i decide whether i wanna play on that game or not and the “problem” is solved.
Now if we are going to talk about game balance we all know that game is balanced based on the players current psr and not based on their skills so yeah that can bring some unbalanced games since that not every high psr player is good enough. So i guess we must give a try to code the balance based on the players kd ratio like Cen mentioned but that brings another ploblem cuz i dont think the system is capable to balance with psr & kd tog so would have to make a static one to give an ammount for the wins and one for the loses.
I also like the autohosting games with the autobalance added just because with that we avoid stacks and hosts not being able to be kicked if he ruins the game.
Probably you are playing v7 mostly, im not sure.There stacking might be less present than in v6, where this is more common. Of course we can always leave a stacking (or any other) lobby we don't like, but since v7 was introduced, the waiting time in lobbies increased double or triple. So a lot of players(including myself) are just entering a lobby, and then go alt-tab watching some video or movie until the game starts. THen you tab-back, and see yourself in a weaker team while the stacking host made himself a nice team against you. Now this can be challenging for the beginning as someone mentioned before, but when you are playing this 50% of your games, it gets boring and frustrating. Stack vs Stack is oke, we do that from time to time too, and it's really fun.But this is like 20% of those type of games. The rest of stacking games are hosted by abusive hosts, who would sell their mothers for 1 psr. What I do like about your post is the question: really why the HOST of a game can't be votekicked? @cen I never understood this.
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