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« on: May 08, 2012, 10:12 »
Srry but imho its boring game with ******* ******* amateurs (trying to be polite)  so "usual 80 min pub game" (with soloing lycan, average terror player (= bad, really bad) etc.) nothing special a few funny moments, but u have to watch 80 min long replay
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« on: March 13, 2012, 18:38 »
Well there are a few heroes I hate - during pub games when noob take it. The reason is simple - Huskar - months back he needed dagger, now u need just 1 click (and everybody make HoD and ...) - Bara - he can solo u under tower on 5 lvl coz begginers have always unbeliavable luck for permastun - Lykan - wtf is frog/sheep with fullspeed Im always sad - coz instead of newbies trying to learn something u meet newbies playing all the time theese 3 heroes using 1-2 buttons on keyboard and because your team is pub team with low teamplay theyre owning. (oh havent been here for a while - so i wanna thank for implementing the "modify" button)
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« on: January 08, 2012, 14:06 »
Just a silly question...
Is it posible to establish some kind of "verification payment" for all accounts?
U know - nothing as regular payment nor some kind of fees, just some kind of "verification" that all users exists and are not created by multipleaccounters who are avoiding ban.
Something like 1 euro...
I have multiple acc (public use, private use...) and it wont be a problem for me (since i use eurobattle/pdeu for a years) to pay single 5 euro payment for all of them just to assure Eurobattle/PDeu that I'm real and not abusing rules. I think it wont be such a problem since everybody (almost) have paypall ect...
Not sure if its possible - u know if u can collect money from us in some kind of payment (not donation). Or it dont event have to be money - just some kind of restriction which limit number of acc created by user. Coz its not problem if ppl have 1-5 accounts - problem is when they have more than one acc per day.
I know that it would limit and distract newcommers, but im not sure where are all theese newcomers - i havent seen pure "newbie" (even in noobs only) for such a long time.
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« on: October 18, 2011, 09:34 »
I agree with U. PD.eu is a great, but...
PSR was a step back - i'm not discussing the private games, im talking about normal pubed games.
Before PSR everyone checked K/D/A c/d ratio (at least - im not telling its the best info about that player skill, but it works), but now everybody fall in love in % chance to win...
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« on: July 12, 2011, 09:17 »
To ppl who argue about offtopic not important questions:
Y DotA is not hockey of football - BUT - same as in theese games its full of individuals who are rated on the base of their own skill and gameplay - THEYRE NOT RATED on the base of their team wins/looses. Got it?
Furthermore teams here are not permanent - so rate player on the base of his wins/looses its kidda pathetic.
U say K/D ratio says nothing. I says whole !sd says much more than PSR about that players skill/gameplay etc...
Whole discussion is about the fact that when u join normal pub game - PSR only comfuse ppl who belive in !balance !rs etc and who do not check !sd... (imho their own fault and stupidity)
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« on: July 11, 2011, 21:31 »
i personally understand what u mean but untill now i feel ppl with higher psr r much better than the ppl with lower psr
the aim of the game is to win therefore if u lead ur team to win u get psr and opposite is true ... sometimes u play support carry etc .. so k/d/a doesnt affect the psr system infact i find psr system is pretty good as i c it now but in my opinion it has 2 problems and psr can be more accurate without them
1-sometimes u play 4v5 or 3v5 and still the !r is the same from what i heard it will be changed when there is a leaver but idk when ...
2-sometimes we c many times 2 from the same team flaming each others and dont try to help or saying (ok IM AFK) and doesnt help (and he doesnt about game anymore) so his truelly psr in that game is actually less than it should be ... if all games r played 5v5 and all players actually want only to win then psr system is the best 100%
but that doesnt happen like i said due to flaming afking leaving etc ... so the psr system isnt accurate 100% but its still very good from the way i c it if u have some ideas to improve it please share it with us not saying that psr system is useless .. cheers
"single K/D/A ratio that never say about player anything" - LOL LOL LOL. Really funny. Before PSR everybody checked !sd and it tells u much more about that players skill. "its taking the game as whole cause dota is team play so if you dont help team or destroy the game with your low skill it gives whole team minus - it learn to think team play way, dota is not individual game, if thinking so go play UT, cars or single player, even CS is team play..." - another LOL. As I have written somewhere DotA is multiplayer game (teamplay game), but we dont have permanent teams here. Do u think NHL players ranking is based on their team wins/looses?
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« on: June 20, 2011, 15:00 »
+1 good old sd
As i understand it there are 2 group of ppl. 1st who care about their score and ladder position and 2nd are ppl who only care about nice game => nice balanced game => game not balanced according to your PSR but according (at least) to your !sd.
The thing is - we dont have any kind of league/tournament here with persistent teams. Teams always differs so i dont understand the fact PSR is counted on the base of your team result.
So again - y its beautifull we got rating. On the other hand - we got rating which tells u nothing about that player skill (dont try to argument here with 1800+ rating - im speaking about ordinary players and normal games).
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« on: June 19, 2011, 14:31 »
i have an idea, most of the time people has like 1650 points but play only with friends, it's the case of ta friend of mine, he only plays with us never alone, so he is a "normal" dota player, not a pro but he has 1650 psr. So this put me thinking, what this kind of players don't have that a pro have.. and after seeing kill/death ratio and other stuff, i concluded something, normally prolly dota players have more games than non pro players. So i though of a system to distinguish between them can be applied by this formula: (PSR + Number of games) / 1.2 = Quocient of proness  i called this way So imagine (sorry night^^stalker i will use your example) Night^^ stalker has 1947 games, he win almost flawless in everygame and still get +0 points humm, if people start playing and get 1,850 points faster than he gets 2000 points then its normally and unffair to compaire with such a player. What i saw too is that he has like 599 ladder games:O that's a lot of dota training and experience, that can distingish a player who relay only in friend or team. So you can trust and assume that Night^^stalker is a pro because, not talking about "skill of the person himself" but because, he has lots of experience from the game by playing it.
Applying the Quocient of Proness = (1947+ 599) / 1.2 = 2121,7 points
Imagine a player that have 1700 points but only played 170 games then (1700+170)/1,2= 1558, 3, you can see he is not a noob but still you can't relay in someone who could have played only 170, and less experience than a person that maybe had 1600 points but had played 400 games, maybe he has a bad team, and maybe the other with 1700 points and 170 had always played with friends.
So this formula can give you a diferencial quocient between players, experience is always a key factor to be good in everything, and beside this formula is easy to apply and implement in a bot, giving the QP of a player you can assume not also luck, friend relay, team relay, but the most important factor of a game, experience.
!sd
Y exactly my point - "good old !sd". Coz the PSR dont reflect theese abilities as u mentioned. I'm proud a lot of ppl revealed the truth quite fast and now they demand not "!balance" but "!sd everybody".
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« on: June 19, 2011, 14:19 »
Yea it needs development just because PSR can't say much about your skills if you play pub games with random players.
+1 precisely U guys here are discussing some kind of ranks - which should tell u something about players skill, teamplay etc. based on rating which do not reflect theese abilities (in pub games). Thats funny - it should be reworked and not extended. Do not try to make thinks with 0 predicate value even more complicated.
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« on: June 13, 2011, 14:29 »
...but today it is also used in many other games. It is also used as a rating system for multiplayer competition in a number of computer games...
Y sure - we can also use wiki. Sorry for irony but quote what u have done here is called garbling. Y ELO is both used for single and for multiplayer games. We agree with this. But not for kind of multiplayer we have here on pd. If u look properly on all theese calculations - one thing is obvious => its 1v1 rating (both for single and for multiplayer) but its 1v1. In multiplayer that means team vs. team. We, here on pd, do not have any kind of tournament with consistent teams. Thats the difference we care about. We are trying to point that this kind of PSR is not your "personal skill rating" it says nothing eminent about your skill nor your gameplay nor your teamplay. Thats all.
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« on: June 12, 2011, 16:15 »
Yep great idea for new rich fruitful discussion.
We dont play permanently (or for some time) with same teammates in same team - in this case we could talk about teamrating based on ELO. But we have different teammates in every game - thats different situation.
I think everybody here (amongst experienced players) know that DotA is about teamplay (thats all what i can say to your accusations that he dont know what teamplay is).
My question is - PSR is "player skill rating" am i right? So imho it should predicate how skilled u are (including your gameplay - i agree) so each host could check your PSR and said if youre good/worse/bad player. This rating based merely on your win/looses do not fullfill this function (it only says u in how may games your team managed to win/lost the game).
So it could mean anything. U could be skilled but surrounded by noobs, u could have great teamplay and your teammates not, u could be succesfull soloer which win the games coz he play -apem for some heavy carrys etc... So when i host the game i check good old !sd coz it says me much more about the players skill and teamplay.
This system have definitely not brought teamplay among pub players. I think everybody would be happy if it would do so but it does not.
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« on: June 12, 2011, 14:28 »
Dota is Sentinel vs Scourge, a team vs another one. Does it make sense to you?
Thanks for this, I thaught noone will bring this up.
Yes Dota is 1 team vs 1 team and IF there would be psr made for WHOLE team (actually "tsr" right?) than it would be fine. But teams play only on tournaments and leagues, bot not casual games on pub. In the end there is still 5 different PSRs vs 5 different PSRs. So no, it does not make sense to me.
And again you bring this up in every topic
It's not him who bring it in every topic - thats his signature and ppl who answer it. U cannot blame him - he is not the one who starts discussing it everywhere.
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« on: June 11, 2011, 18:43 »
dude are you serious?
you mean that to play DOTA i have to pay money for it?
that does contributors that the half of them are (no-lifer's)
and if i want to play some dota there are others different ways to play
i don't give a f****c if PD.EU is online or offline or not free anymore.
and i guess that in 2-3 days we will normally created games like before
but all this it was a tricky plan for people (NO-LIFER'S) to donate their money
Except going for a coffee
that reall sucks for humanity and especially teenager's
People have no money to live and you want to donate to have some entairtainment?
gg
PS: MyUberNick said that ONLY (Contributors) can host games
that smells too fishy here
so no-lifer kids will donate to play some dota :O
too bad
i thought that pd.eu was good
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1st - u definitelly need some heavy arguments and fact for such heavy accusation. Even if its only trick - why other ppl with legal capacity cannot see through it as clearly as u do? On one hand you are saying u dont care on the other it seems to me u care too much. In addition i dont get it - why is everybody crying that it is not fair to start paying (or donating and enjoying unrestricted access) for something that was free? I understand the fact that DotA was always for free but if i remember the "good old times" properly - u have to use your own bot (that leads to fact there was no control over the host abusing his powers) or use Garena etc.. U can always stop playing here and find solution which suits u more. Its your own decicion. So i dont get the point of your babble. Pd is not your project nor your stroke nor serviced payed by u. Staff here should make a new folder a bit inspirated by "new member introduction" and u should call it "old member leave-taking". There such ppl could write such things as: "I enjoyed time playing here, but now im pissed off and im leaving this community, coz there is nothing i can do about it nor i have right to do so... cya"
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« on: June 11, 2011, 18:20 »
Is there any way how to force people to read forum before they post?
Definitelly not - obviously he has read the announcement but i havent helped him to understand it.
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« on: June 11, 2011, 18:13 »
+1 :-D great sence of humour
but on the other hand - youre in the wrong section (this is general forum) :-P
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