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Title: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 26, 2017, 12:23
Hi all ill ask for that balanar bug ulty , why is that banned? bala is total usseles in day :D without his 3. :D theres alot bugs and no banned :D sometimes i slark and lina hit me with laguna blade while me ulty, its not banned?
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 26, 2017, 12:27
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6026698 heres that game, we was totali fucked but in first minutes lina use ulty on me when i was shadow dancing :D in first minutes his first ulty
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: UltimateTroll on March 26, 2017, 13:20
Hi all ill ask for that balanar bug ulty , why is that banned? bala is total usseles in day :D without his 3. :D theres alot bugs and no banned :D
lfuckingmao
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Jedivh on March 26, 2017, 13:29
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bala is total usseles in day
lol
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: beastiary on March 26, 2017, 15:18
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6026698 heres that game, we was totali fucked but in first minutes lina use ulty on me when i was shadow dancing :D in first minutes his first ulty

that can be done with any spell by shift-clicking it since 2002 i believe
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: _xpam_ on March 26, 2017, 15:36
great way of getting people in here, just tell them all dont ruin our pro games
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 26, 2017, 16:21
and where shld i ask :D all player use that bug and 1of 10 is reported, why is banned then?then 90% reports are missing.And bala usseles without it :D
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: _xpam_ on March 27, 2017, 07:56
try to play on iccup and say on all chat " i am usng bug"
you already used bug in my game but i did not report u :P
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Astaroth on March 27, 2017, 10:23
What is the bug? Can anyone explain, please?
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 11:36
try to play on iccup and say on all chat " i am usng bug"
you already used bug in my game but i did not report u :P
y ty for it man :)
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 11:44
What is the bug? Can anyone explain, please?



 bug is that you give ask on ask
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 11:51
try to play on iccup and say on all chat " i am usng bug"
you already used bug in my game but i did not report u :P
y ty forno report  man :) anyway i didnt knew that banned becouse i see all use it :DDD
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Astaroth on March 27, 2017, 12:13
What is the bug? Can anyone explain, please?
bug is that you give ask on ask
Umm, what?

If you are from Slovakia, feel free to answer me in your language, if that's easier for you.
I don't know about the bug and I'd like to learn what it actually is/does.

Translated version/přeložená verze:
Jestli seš ze Slovenska, klidně mi odpověz ve Slovenčtině, jestli je to pro tebe jednodušší.
Já o tom bugu nevim, rád bych se dozvěděl, co to je za bug a co dělá.
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 12:28
What is the bug? Can anyone explain, please?
bug is that you give ask on ask
Umm, what?

If you are from Slovakia, feel free to answer me in your language, if that's easier for you.
I don't know about the bug and I'd like to learn what it actually is/does.

Translated version/přeložená verze:
Jestli seš ze Slovenska, klidně mi odpověz ve Slovenčtině, jestli je to pro tebe jednodušší.
Já o tom bugu nevim, rád bych se dozvěděl, co to je za bug a co dělá.

OK sory myslel sem ze ma tu trolis jak ten troll :D normalne ked das z balanarem tak ta ulty vraj trva vecne a stale je noc XD nieco take.Ale pochybujem ze to nevis XD
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 12:35
What is the bug? Can anyone explain, please?
bug is that you give ask on ask
Umm, what?

If you are from Slovakia, feel free to answer me in your language, if that's easier for you.
I don't know about the bug and I'd like to learn what it actually is/does.

Translated version/přeložená verze:
Jestli seš ze Slovenska, klidně mi odpověz ve Slovenčtině, jestli je to pro tebe jednodušší.
Já o tom bugu nevim, rád bych se dozvěděl, co to je za bug a co dělá.
btw learn different between CZ and SK is same, but different a little :PPPP :D that youtype is pure Czech Republik , not Slovakia :))

@edit: I've cleaned the mess you've done here  :D. Double posts deleted, the right post fixed.
-Astaroth
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Astaroth on March 27, 2017, 12:46
OK sory myslel sem ze ma tu trolis jak ten troll :D normalne ked das z balanarem tak ta ulty vraj trva vecne a stale je noc XD nieco take.Ale pochybujem ze to nevis XD
As the official language is English, I shall translate this for other.

Roughly translated:
Ok, sorry, I thought you were trolling me :D
If you use, Balanar's ulty lasts infinitely, or something similar. But I doubt you don't know that.

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Thank's for the answer.
I don't play DotA 1 for quite a long time now and I wasn't here some time, so I really didn't know about this bug.

To answer your question, why is abusing this bug forbidden/banned:
Well, that's simple. You exploit and abuse inner DotA/W3 bug to gain unfair advantage.
Moreover, in this case it isn't just you getting advantage (extra MS and AS, unobstructed vision in case of having Aghanim's), you also put your foes in great disadvange by limiting their vision as well as vision of their wards and buildings to 675 (usually heroes have 1800/800 during day/night).
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 12:59
OK sory myslel sem ze ma tu trolis jak ten troll :D normalne ked das shift+R z balanarem tak ta ulty vraj trva vecne a stale je noc XD nieco take.Ale pochybujem ze to nevis XD
As the official language is English, I shall translate this for other.

Roughly translated:
Ok, sorry, I thought you were trolling me :D
If you use shift + R, Balanar's ulty lasts infinitely, or something similar. But I doubt you don't know that.



---

Thank's for the answer.
I don't play DotA 1 for quite a long time now and I wasn't here some time, so I really didn't know about this bug.

To answer your question, why is abusing this bug forbidden/banned:
Well, that's simple. You exploit and abuse inner DotA/W3 bug to gain unfair advantage.
Moreover, in this case it isn't just you getting advantage (extra MS and AS, unobstructed vision in case of having Aghanim's), you also put your foes in great disadvange by limiting their vision as well as vision of their wards and buildings to 675 (usually heroes have 1800/800 during day/night).
pekne zhrnuti ale promin ja sem furt proti, staci ked si spomenem na alchemist ulty porat mi je zle :D +gold skill plny build v 30min , balanar +bug nema sancu ho dat. hm?
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 13:05
i think alchemist is no hero but ****ing bug and game ruin retarded **** shld be deleted from game if balanar bug is banned.
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Astaroth on March 27, 2017, 13:12
We have to keep talking in English, or we may discuss this via PM or in CZ-SK zone.

Alchemist's ulty is strong, yet it is as it is intended to be (unless you are talking about a bug I'm unaware of).

Even after considering all heroes' pros and cons, you can't, in any situation, abuse an inner bug and gain unfair advantage.

By using Alchemist's ulty, you are using "a tool" given to you by the author of the game, this permananent night is a bug.

My goal is to explain why you can't use such a bug(s).

A discussion whether you can kill Alchemist without abusing the bug is irrelevant. If we'd continue this way, we might end up at a point where someone would claim that using a map hack is ok because it is hard to get riki without it.

Btw if you have problem with killing Alchemist, pick a hero that can counter him and/or adjust your item build.
Cheating isn't the right way to go.
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on March 27, 2017, 13:42
yea man u talk right  , but dota 1 isfull of bugs and bugs are ok there, also i think bala ulty is not cheat , becouse u dont need any program(hack) to do it ^^ ,) thats why i open this discusion.
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: LexMonster on March 27, 2017, 13:59
Astaroth explained this very good. Read his last post again.

Also, rules clearly state:
   
5. Player must not use any kind of cheats/bugs:
  • Abusing bot bug or inner DotA game bug will be considered as cheat.
And that ends this discussion.

Note: Anyone found using bug will be banned permanently.

Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Astaroth on March 27, 2017, 14:01
I understand.

You don't need any other programs, its bug that is in the game unintentionally. If this would happen in any normally supported game, a patch (new version of the map in this case) would be released, the bug would be fixed and we all would be happy.

Yet, this is DotA 1. I don't think I have to tell you anything about any support...

I agree this isn't a classical cheat, you don't run any other (3rd party) program, you don't edit any cfg files, you don't enter any commands anywhere to change anything.

Its a bug. And as I said, abusing this unintended feature of the game gives you great and unfair advantage (MS, AS, vision, as mentioned previously) and I have to ask you to stop using it.
You can still use it normally.

In some previous version of the game, there was a way how to prevent Roshan attacking you. As a result you could kill him on lvl 1 without any items.
It was a bug and there were ppl getting banned for abusing it.
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: _xpam_ on March 27, 2017, 15:40
Astaroth explained this very good. Read his last post again.

Also, rules clearly state:
   
5. Player must not use any kind of cheats/bugs:
  • Abusing bot bug or inner DotA game bug will be considered as cheat.
And that ends this discussion.

Note: Anyone found using bug will be banned permanently.

Lexy i saw this report. Gold transfer is only possible with MapHack  or do I know wrong
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=178366.msg634290;boardseen#new
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: luke on March 27, 2017, 15:41
Thats another thing, its already beeing checked
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: _xpam_ on March 27, 2017, 20:03
Thats another thing, its already beeing checked
This is the only way . clear map hack
Title: Re: about bug
Post by: Mara on September 08, 2017, 17:12
:D im rofling now on this, i was really noob.