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Title: Against the odds
Post by: Confused-o_O- on January 29, 2020, 23:37
Game of the day :D

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6249034
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: AntlermanXXL on January 29, 2020, 23:59
Way too easy with Mitev
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: nikolagay on January 30, 2020, 00:07
That moment when balance is 89% - 11% and the only death I had happened cause I dived at T4 towers for kills like a greedy fuck.

Shoutout to kashatura1(Magnus) and vuhvel (Treant) for their outstanding supporting throughout the game. Was a pleasure to play with them.
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Happy.. on January 30, 2020, 00:45
Ah, the old "pasting the 50-50 balance message into chat so the people won't leave during the countdown" trick.

And this isn't even TooShade's final form!
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Jimmy on January 30, 2020, 01:00
@TooShade

Did he really copy /paste this message?

01:53   TooShade   Sentinel avg. PSR: 1553(55% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1558(45% to win)
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: AntlermanXXL on January 30, 2020, 01:44
@TooShade

Did he really copy /paste this message?

01:53   TooShade   Sentinel avg. PSR: 1553(55% to win), Scourge avg. PSR: 1558(45% to win)

Yes he abuses CoMMoN's and mine copyrighted trick that much, so people are calling ME TooShade when i do this eventually

And i get various flame (towards tooshade) whispers just from random people who are not even in game
Very fun !
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Jimmy on January 30, 2020, 02:16
What a stupid way to get banned..
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Jimmy on January 30, 2020, 02:21
This is a good place as any then. Also  very public , good.

@TooShade
Ingame Rules
5. Player must not use any kind of cheats/bugs:
- c) Pretending to be a Moderator/Admin and faking official bot announcements is not allowed.

Consider yourself warned , next time , you're getting banned.
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: tehnika8x8 on January 30, 2020, 02:22
TooShame..
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: nikolagay on January 30, 2020, 09:04
When you stack a game severely in your favor so you can rape noobs and get 1PSR, but instead you end up being humiliated and destroyed on mid, flamed by your own stacked team, losing the game and 5PSR, while furthermore being publically backlashed on the forum and getting warned for abusing bot announcements.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/e2/b3/ede2b35ab00e4365be8e199112a17567.jpg)
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: .SaLiH. on January 30, 2020, 15:06
ok this got my attention. Why would someone be warned/banned for using "FAKE BALANCE (!)" when a host is not obliged to do balance or do any other mode while saying its ap or whatever?

If this is the reason "faking official bot announcements is not allowed." Its not a valid reason either, a player cannot fake bot or even a mod unless he has some access (for mod case). Anyone who plays in this server is aware of bots color or any kind of elements so he can understand what is going on and its really obvious unless hes not paying attention. As mentioned previously, a host is not obliged to use !balance ingame
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: nikolagay on January 30, 2020, 15:27
ok this got my attention. Why would someone be warned/banned for using "FAKE BALANCE (!)" when a host is not obliged to do balance or do any other mode while saying its ap or whatever?

If this is the reason "faking official bot announcements is not allowed." Its not a valid reason either, a player cannot fake bot or even a mod unless he has some access (for mod case). Anyone who plays in this server is aware of bots color or any kind of elements so he can understand what is going on and its really obvious unless hes not paying attention. As mentioned previously, a host is not obliged to use !balance ingame

I'm guessing it's a ban-able offense cause it has malicious / misleading nature. I think of it kind of like that old "press Alt + QQ to see something special" spam. Sure, 99% of the population will not fall for something so obvious, but there's always gonna be at least that one random dude or an unknowing kid who's actually gonna try and do it just to see what happens.

It also reminds me of the "Red bull, gives you wings!" advertisements that had to be withdrawn cause of lawsuits claiming that the commercials imply you can actually gain wings if you drink red bull. The bullshit coming out of it can be "abused" from both ends. In short, it's misleading, exploitable, potentially harmful, and frankly speaking - a dick move. Looking at it like that, it probably should be a ban-able offense.
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: .SaLiH. on January 30, 2020, 15:32
Quote
Sure, 99% of the population will not fall for something so obvious, but there's always gonna be at least that one random dude
If this is the reason of that ban, I still think its not valid or rather, other rules should be implemented by this logic
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: AntlermanXXL on January 30, 2020, 15:40
Most of rules are made for comfortable and fluent game/forum experience

I myself, who created most of these tricks in order to get a game as 5 deers squad, agree that it is not friendly move and probably must be sanctioned, as it violates 'comfortable and fluent game/forum experience' idea

p.s.: in our case, we are not tryharding, so not really a 'dick' move here, we tend to let enemies win and get fun for ourselves
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: .SaLiH. on January 30, 2020, 16:23
I still dont agree on this. if in this case shade or whoever use this so called "trick" is getting warned or bananed I say that there are plenty of things which should be treated same way. Since they are not treated same way, this one shouldnt be also
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Jimmy on January 30, 2020, 16:24
I still dont agree on this. if in this case shade or whoever use this so called "trick" is getting warned or bananed I say that there are plenty of things which should be treated same way. Since they are not treated same way, this one shouldnt be also
Thats why i opened the Suggestion board.
Please, if you have ideas ( That would benefit the Majority ) suggest them.
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: TooShade on January 30, 2020, 17:00
Dear users,
Also allow me to give an answer, I have informed myself of the subject in this regard. Let me explain, if I make a stack (for me not, I'll explain you why not), it's not because I have to take a free win or because I have to do this very unbalanced game, but because I play very often with friends (between which sometimes 2 to 4 friends), and of course there is no way to balance the game, so I am forced to paste that fake balance to keep the players in the lobby and not leaving. Unfortunately, the problem of the big PSRs is precisely this, especially if you are with some friends, it is impossible to balance and the players continue to go out continuously due to the imbalance of the team of 4 friends.
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Akuma on January 30, 2020, 17:15
For the sake of going completely offtopic I will ask a question.

Why did he get warned if he wasn't reported for breaking rules, and I don't see guy who opened this topic asking for any kind of ban or warn.

Also mitev abbadon.

Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: luke on January 30, 2020, 17:48
Good points. From 1 side, if someone did something bad and isn't reported, it doesn't mean that he can brag about it and get away with it. From another, searching through everyones dirty clothes to find a reason for ban is not good as well. Just as everything, moderation needs balance.

As for actual posting such fake message - i think its a low trick and deserve for warn
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: Jimmy on January 30, 2020, 18:22
It was an official public warn, thats it.
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: ExpertNoob on January 30, 2020, 20:50
Dear users,
Also allow me to give an answer, I have informed myself of the subject in this regard. Let me explain, if I make a stack (for me not, I'll explain you why not), it's not because I have to take a free win or because I have to do this very unbalanced game, but because I play very often with friends (between which sometimes 2 to 4 friends), and of course there is no way to balance the game, so I am forced to paste that fake balance to keep the players in the lobby and not leaving. Unfortunately, the problem of the big PSRs is precisely this, especially if you are with some friends, it is impossible to balance and the players continue to go out continuously due to the imbalance of the team of 4 friends.
Keep kicking players who seem to have good k/d/a in order to get free wins. :)
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: TooShade on January 30, 2020, 20:58
@ExpertNoob Ok, if you like insult like that, I can say you're good for my stack. In other team ofc...
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: myprecious on January 31, 2020, 05:14
what about my lanaya pick? :O
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: AntlermanXXL on January 31, 2020, 09:31
what about my lanaya pick? :O

tryhard

:-D
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: myprecious on February 01, 2020, 06:07
try harders like me always pick lanaya!!!
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6249010
1) 00:42   Bookeyizze   [Allies]   -random
2) 00:58   TooShade   [Allies]   Slot 7 who is?
3) 01:29   TooShade   [Allies]   Lanaya player?
4) 25:15   TooShade   [All]   I bet you play only lanaya
5) 26:08   TooShade   [All]   U whould try another hero
6) 26:10   TooShade   [All]   i guess
7) 26:26   TooShade   [All]   25k games with lana? wtf
Title: Re: Against the odds
Post by: myprecious on February 01, 2020, 17:14
haha I had to check what was my item build after read out ur comment,ye right indeed... well the game was serious thats why I had to make serious items.(p.s. i was bored of bs rupture me wanted to make linkens,but then mighty kevlar join us in fights after that wasnt matter anymore,even dagon was playable) :D