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Title: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 13:50
I get this '' VGA no signal '' error every once in a while.I can sense it when im on youtube for example and its freezing/not responding properly for couple seconds and alt-tabs are slow.Pc shuts down and when I restart it makes the starting beep sound but unable to do so.After a few times it stops trying to boot.Also when its struggling to restart theres an odd sound from inside.

When this first happened i thought cables are not connected right and somehow loose I made sure of it and it didnt happen for a while , but now i think it might be something else.help appreciated
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: cen on March 10, 2016, 13:57
Looks like your GPU might be dying. Try to stress test it by running a benchmark, Unigine Heaven for example.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Lagi on March 10, 2016, 14:14
The strange noise coming from your graphic card? If you are not sure, check it out somehow, cause if it's coming from your HDD, it is most likely bad sectors. I had the same with my old hdd, exact same problems that you described, and when it runs on a bad sector, you can hear the spin drive motor stop and retry. If it happens during some intense running process like flashplayer, or fucks up some driver files, like your vga card's driver, almost always makes the file system corrupted, and after restart windows can't load in. The not responding plugincontainer.exe under the firefox process and the undue long "hangtimes" are usually Hdd problems.

If you use SSD or you are sure it's not the case, and the noise coming from elsewhere, just forget about this post. :)
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Astaroth on March 10, 2016, 14:42
So many things going on here.

But first, what PC or notebook do you have? Specs and brand (if not custom build), please.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 14:55
Looks like your GPU might be dying. Try to stress test it by running a benchmark, Unigine Heaven for example.

Thanks for reply I will do that and let you know.

The strange noise coming from your graphic card?

It lasts like half a second so I couldnt determine where the sound came from but bad sector scenerio can be the case although 1 month ago I searched HDD for bad sectors and it found none since its somewhat new

So many things going on here.

But first, what PC or notebook do you have? Specs and brand (if not custom build), please.

Its a custom build pc.

Windows 7 ultimate x64 SP 1

Intel core2 Duo CPU E 6750 @ 2.66 ghz

4 gb ram

NVIDIA Geforce GT 430

Let me know if u would like to know something else.thanks for help
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 15:01
If it happens during some intense running process like flashplayer, or fucks up some driver files, like your vga card's driver, almost always makes the file system corrupted, and after restart windows can't load in.

Also yes it always happened when I play 2 games together with youtube on background.So how can I fix these corrupted files?
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 15:07
my Geforce GT 430 is higher than Geforce 8 series right? otherwise I do not meet the system requirements for Unigine Heaven :)
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Astaroth on March 10, 2016, 15:18
GT 430 is like 6 years old, your CPU is from 2007.

You said your PC is slow or is freezing. When was the last time you cleaned it from dust and reinstalled Windows?
Having Windows for long period of time makes it messy and slow.
Having lot of dust inside your PC (coolers, fans) makes it overheat and overheating makes PC slow, can make it freeze or turn off (safety reasons).
When your PC is idle or when browsing web, open task manager and check CPU's usage.

The starting beep, is it just one beep that's always there? If there's something wrong with your HW, some sequence of beeps tells you what's wrong - in such a case you need to find manual for your motherboard.

"The odd" sound, if you could find its source... You can simply open your PC case and place your ear close :)
I think I don't need to write this but anyway: Be carefull, do not touch anything inside your PC while it is running. Also while listening don't get your hair stucked in some fan.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Astaroth on March 10, 2016, 15:30
my Geforce GT 430 is higher than Geforce 8 series right? otherwise I do not meet the system requirements for Unigine Heaven :)

http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/pc-applications/Unigine-Heaven-2/description

" Heaven is a great showcase for tessellation, a key feature of NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 400 series GPUs."

Just give it a try :)
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: cen on March 10, 2016, 15:40
Just try it and see what happens. It should work.

Do you have latest nvidia drivers installed?
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 15:43
GT 430 is like 6 years old, your CPU is from 2007.

You said your PC is slow or is freezing. When was the last time you cleaned it from dust and reinstalled Windows?
Having Windows for long period of time makes it messy and slow.
Having lot of dust inside your PC (coolers, fans) makes it overheat and overheating makes PC slow, can make it freeze or turn off (safety reasons).
When your PC is idle or when browsing web, open task manager and check CPU's usage.

The starting beep, is it just one beep that's always there? If there's something wrong with your HW, some sequence of beeps tells you what's wrong - in such a case you need to find manual for your motherboard.

"The odd" sound, if you could find its source... You can simply open your PC case and place your ear close :)
I think I don't need to write this but anyway: Be carefull, do not touch anything inside your PC while it is running. Also while listening don't get your hair stucked in some fan.

My pc works perfectly fine its not slow or freezing constantly just before this error. I tried to describe how I sense it.

I did clean the fans and reinstalled windows I do those regularly.

The one beep is always there but when this problem occurs it goes like Beep-restart-beep-restart cycle.As for the sound I think its HDD just starting to boot and failing to do so and trying again kind of noise I guess its normal.

Just try it and see what happens. It should work.

thank you.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 15:43
@cen I do have the latest drivers.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 15:57
I just ran Unigine Heaven on extreme for 5 minutes.Temperature was around 70 celcius.Min fps : 3 max fps : 9 it was laggy but the problem didnt occur.What should we know from this? :)
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: cen on March 10, 2016, 16:41
Not much. I was hoping your PC would crash. :P

How often do you get this error?
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 10, 2016, 16:54
Not much. I was hoping your PC would crash. :P

How often do you get this error?

3 times this week.but total of 5-6 in last 30 days.something u can advice me to do / check?
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: cen on March 10, 2016, 17:35
Not really. I think one possible cause could be overheating, because:
1. You get no BSOD
2. It fails to restart for some time (a few minutes I guess?) because it needs to cool down

That's all I can think of. I'd try to run unigine in a loop for 30min and monitor the system temps, CPU and GPU (with GPUZ).

Besides this I don't really have any other ideas.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Astaroth on March 10, 2016, 20:31
As cen said in point 2, failing to restart could be caused by overheated HW that needs to be cooled down.

Also the odd sound from HDD can be caused by the restart or sudden power going off.
HDDs have some plates (I'm not sure if this is the right English word) where the data is written/stored and above it, like very very close, there's a reading/writing head.
The head must never touch the plate so modern HDDs have this parking technology - when the power goes off, the head is quickly moved from above the plate so it cannot damage it. It does this "click" sound.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Lagi on March 10, 2016, 23:05
You should put in your windows cd, lod it in, go to repair section's command prompt and run chkdsk c: /R

c: is of course your system partition's letter, can be different.
This check and repair file system errors, and most likely your windows will be able to boot again.

If it's your gpu overheating or anything than it won't really help, but doesn't harm either so i would give it a try. Corrupted file system is a pain in the ass and can cause shitloads of different failures.
Good luck :)
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: 811 on March 11, 2016, 14:11
Thank you all for your replies.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Lagi on March 12, 2016, 14:34
As cen said in point 2, failing to restart could be caused by overheated HW that needs to be cooled down.

Also the odd sound from HDD can be caused by the restart or sudden power going off.
HDDs have some plates (I'm not sure if this is the right English word) where the data is written/stored and above it, like very very close, there's a reading/writing head.
The head must never touch the plate so modern HDDs have this parking technology - when the power goes off, the head is quickly moved from above the plate so it cannot damage it. It does this "click" sound.
The word you are looking for is cluster btw :)
The best thing i did with my pc in the last years was to switch from HDD to SSD. Lightspeed, no mechanical/moving parts to fail etc... It's just smth incompareably better technology. I had soooo many problems and and hard times on the sucker roller with my hdd back in time. :)

Thank you all for your replies.

Here are the sounds btw that I talk about to search.
This one is a mechanical failure hdd. The spin drive start/stop sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGygwiprEbA

And this one is the click sound when you run on a bad sector.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3vy7L9hPU

If you have one of these coming from your hard drive, I have bad news for you.
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: XCens on March 12, 2016, 16:11
if u get freezing on screen u should format your pc put windows xp becouse your card and your specs are to low
what windows do you have which version?
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: XCens on March 12, 2016, 16:12
if u get freezing on screen u should format your pc put windows xp becouse your card and your specs are to low
what windows do you have which version same problem for me i have same old pc i was watcing movie from media player and it's freezing little bit becouse i have windows 7
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: Lagi on March 12, 2016, 16:23
if u get freezing on screen u should format your pc put windows xp becouse your card and your specs are to low
what windows do you have which version?
He already wrote it on the first page, and it's totally not the case :)


Windows 7 ultimate x64 SP 1

Intel core2 Duo CPU E 6750 @ 2.66 ghz

4 gb ram

NVIDIA Geforce GT 430

This spec is way more than enough for a win7
Title: Re: Error! help
Post by: XCens on March 12, 2016, 17:33
maybe his processor is crash i think processor is problem or hard disk