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Title: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Zemunac on May 02, 2010, 15:33
Hello,

I have a pleasure to announce cooperation of playdota.eu with Ranked gaming client (RGC). After some time of hard work we have managed to connect playdota.eu bots to Rgc.

Rgc is small program, similar to garena, that allows you to play games, only warcraft III for now, but support for additional games will come in near future. You can download it from http://cdn.rankedgaming.com/client/RGC.zip (http://cdn.rankedgaming.com/client/RGC.zip)
Just extract archive, and run rgc.exe, you will get window like this:

(http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/fb0a6521e8.png)

Hit connect


(http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/07a986ae9f.png)

If you don't have account click register and make one. Login to the client and you will get main window

(http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/7aacb9e4f8.png)


Ok, now brief tutorial how to play normal client games. See on the right, list of signed players, you click sign with desired mode and when 10 people sign, game will be hosted with the mode with most votes.  Then you go on lan, and you game. Note the name on the lan MUST be the same as client username or bot wont let you in.
There are a lot of communities and leagues on client, but i wont go in to them right now.

Now to get to playdota.eu, in order to join the channel type in chat /j playdota.eu( in preferences you can make it auto join playdota or any other channel on start). To see the games currently hosted, click the servers icon on the main window:

(http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/64b6e785ac.jpg)

if you see the game you like, just go to Warcraft III, lan find it on the list and join it, again with the same name as Client nick. That is it. You will have new stats sheet with client nick, the bnet ones will not transfer.

Note: Ping you see on server window is twice as large as the lobby ping. That is because the ping in servers window is your computer -> server -> your computer again( the whole trip) and lobby ping is just Server-> computer( half way) so down worry, about it. Cut the number in half to get value you are used to.

Now about creating games, you can do it the same way as on bnet. Commands are the same.

Note: do to server crash we had to go live with a new beta version of client, if you encounter any bugs please report them at our forum ;)

Thank you all for reading this, if you have any further questions check out our forum
http://www.mymgn.com/board/forumdisplay.php?709-Ranked-Gaming-Client (http://www.mymgn.com/board/forumdisplay.php?709-Ranked-Gaming-Client)


Zemunac
RGC staff
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Zemunac on May 02, 2010, 20:46
Guy nicknamed sir-rogers has made it.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Resor on May 03, 2010, 14:25
First of all explain what is the point to play trough this client.
Is there any pluses or minuses comparing to standard connect trough the pvpgn bnet from channel playdota.eu.
About this 10 added members... System is identical as ODL league on W3 channel.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Sir Rogers on May 03, 2010, 21:53
Hello there,

I'm very glad that you ask Resor and I'll be more than happy to answer your questions.

About this 10 added members... System is identical as ODL league on W3 channel.

That is because, as I have been informed, ODL is designed after our sign system. Everything started out with a dota community that I was coding hostbots for back on Northrend. It's a long story, but I'll cut it short. When Blizzard decided to introduce Warden and make my hostbots useless, I decided that it was time for a move. We then moved to xpam, where we were happy for a while. I do not wish to name and blame anyone, the xpm staff have been very helpful, but it wasn't what we were looking for. The servers became too unreliable and went down too often, so I decided to make my own platform: RGC.

RGC started out as a dota client for dotarank, but it started to become so much more, which leads me to the next section.

First of all explain what is the point to play trough this client.
Is there any pluses or minuses comparing to standard connect trough the pvpgn bnet from channel playdota.eu.

It's not very obvious and it is still unclear to many people what I want RGC to be. We moved away from bnet because there were too many technical limitations (40 users per channel) and Blizzard started to play God with its little patches. What has always annoyed me personally as a gamer, were the technical limitations imposed by game developers. What I always wanted was total freedom and that is something that I'm trying to give people with RGC. For me it is not only a gaming client, but also a platform for people to be creative and create great things. I'll give you a few examples: The whole client skin is modifiable and scriptable, you can translate the client into your own language and there are going to be more ways for developers to use RGC. As you have seen with playdota, the games are accessible over LAN, because the hostbots are using one of my APIs to communicate with RGC and displays its games to all users within a channel.

What I'm really keen on are leagues and communities. Almost noone seems to bother with player communities, and yet they are the one thing that keep games alive and going over many years. I personally believe that the map modding community (including dota, obviously) and the ability for people to create their own games within WC3 is the only reason why the game has survived so long. It's the ability for players to express their desires and channeling them towards improving the gaming experience as a whole for themselves, their friends and everyone else. That is exactly what RGC is about. People will be able to code chatbots/leaguebots, have their own clans, their own games history and much more to come on this client.
I want to develop it to a point where it can become a gamer's home. That's my goal.

Anyway to answer your question directly, at the moment there are no direct advantages other than having all open games in one place to look at and join, adding a community aspect to playdota, where you can gather with your friends to play games and chat. It's not only about gaming, of course we all enjoy playing the game, but we are also very social creatures and the chat, socialising and making friends is as important as playing the game to have a good time. I hope that this answered your question, feel free to ask more questions if you wish to do so.


Regards,
Sir Rogers
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: mrNiceguy on May 03, 2010, 22:51
Well said Sir Rogers,

this was the best sentence of all: "and Blizzard started to play God with its little patches", that is what I personally hate at blizzard, the patches! I rlly appreciate your work and your knowledge to make that client, and that you want to give opportunity to the ppl to play there.

I hope that your client will be online as much as it can!

Best wishes,

mrNiceguy
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: iluv_meow on May 04, 2010, 00:27
I LOVE U SIR ROGERS !!
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Canin on May 04, 2010, 01:30
Sweet project you have here :)

I'll download the program tomorrow and give it a shot.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Djerfi on May 04, 2010, 01:47
I LOVE U SIR ROGERS !!

Omg... If he dies, it's not me!  ;)
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Resor on May 04, 2010, 14:34
I see nice alternative with available modifications for pvpgn's, and competition for Garena.
Many Garena similarities.
I would love to see players whos already joined to the game, and optional their stats. Would be nice if that would be possible before you join the game.

Just imagine how great it would be if on right side from "Players" box we could see "Stats" box.
For example you have look of server browser for FPP game:

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9423/qsblook.jpg)
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Sir Rogers on May 05, 2010, 16:15
If that is possible technically, I'll implement it. Every game is different, for example Warcraft III doesn't tell you who's ingame until you join the game lobby, a Quake II server might tell you straight away who's ingame. I'll have to see on what's doable and what's not, so I can't make any promises on that subject. But as you can see on the Servers window, that most of this is already implemented apart from the players + possibly stats.


Regards,
Sir Rogers
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: BJSV on May 10, 2010, 17:02
Hi. I played few games now with RGC (3 acualy) 2 i left cause of lag. Now if you remeber Sir Rogers i was boring you yesterday about some things and i guess that problem with lag was my IPS, but i found out that while ingame you cant check ping, set latency, sync or mute ppl so what will happen next time i lag( wihout a reason) and no way of TRYing to fix it? Also as i have seen, i left the game and I was able to join again which means that i didnt get ban. Are leavers welcome there, cause there is no way of even trying to stop ppl from leaveing?

One question: while in loby ( playdota.eu game) i am asked to spoof check by /w, but every time i do /w it turns to be a fail, and when i type !sc it says that i am spoofed. So am i auto spoofed or something else???
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Bleys on May 10, 2010, 17:24
What's that DR in your channel menu stand for?
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: ek0 on May 10, 2010, 18:06
One question: while in loby ( playdota.eu game) i am asked to spoof check by /w, but every time i do /w it turns to be a fail, and when i type !sc it says that i am spoofed. So am i auto spoofed or something else???
This will change. It is a bug.
People from RGC can not join with a different nick.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Zemunac on May 11, 2010, 13:52
Hi. I played few games now with RGC (3 acualy) 2 i left cause of lag. Now if you remeber Sir Rogers i was boring you yesterday about some things and i guess that problem with lag was my IPS, but i found out that while ingame you cant check ping, set latency, sync or mute ppl so what will happen next time i lag( wihout a reason) and no way of TRYing to fix it? Also as i have seen, i left the game and I was able to join again which means that i didnt get ban. Are leavers welcome there, cause there is no way of even trying to stop ppl from leaveing?

One question: while in loby ( playdota.eu game) i am asked to spoof check by /w, but every time i do /w it turns to be a fail, and when i type !sc it says that i am spoofed. So am i auto spoofed or something else???

We had Lag problems, but 2 days ago we got new server only for host bots, with impressive specifications, that should fix lag issues, actuality no complains for now :) Now about you leaving the game. You left in PUBLIC, we wont ban you for that. Why? well now imagine if eurobattle.net would ban anyone who leaves the game, blizzard bans you from bnet, coz you left some public game, etc.. But there are other communities on RGC, like dotarank, playdota, dpl... Some of them are skill based (dpl) and others like dotarank, only manners. For example dotarank, has strict rules about flaming leaving etc. and it is place whele you can have casual leavers and retards free games.

About spoofcheck, you cant spoof nick if you play on client, bot wont let you join in if your nickname is different then on client.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: BJSV on May 11, 2010, 14:08
10x for the info. And btw im not a leaver but games where laging to much.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Zemunac on May 11, 2010, 14:24
Well, lag issue is fixed.(I hope so) We got a server in same company as playdota.eu, but a bit stronger, + it is dedicated only to hostbots( no site, database) so if you dont have lag at playdota.eu bots you wont have here either.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Sir Rogers on May 11, 2010, 20:36
What's that DR in your channel menu stand for?

DR stands for DotArank. It is a separate community. RGC is a platform for different communities such as playdota.eu, DotArank, DPL and others. About the lag, I believe that Zemunac has answered everything. :-)


Regards,
Sir Rogers
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: __dominator__ on August 31, 2010, 16:08
haha nice one zemunac making an account of the creator and then telling that zemunac(you) deos a good job....
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: mrNiceguy on August 31, 2010, 19:20
haha nice one zemunac making an account of the creator and then telling that zemunac(you) deos a good job....

If this is joke, then ok, if not, then this one counts into the most stupid conclusions i read here!

How do you know it is same person? You can see their ip-s?
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Zemunac on September 06, 2010, 13:26
Due to error in our proxy that allowed for playdota.eu games to be played on RGC, in next week or two playing pd.eu wont be possible until we fix the issue.

Thank you
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: MiZiGe on September 06, 2010, 13:36
That is because, as I have been informed, ODL is designed after our sign system. Everything started out with a dota community that I was coding hostbots for back on Northrend. It's a long story, but I'll cut it short. When Blizzard decided to introduce Warden and make my hostbots useless, I decided that it was time for a move. We then moved to xpam, where we were happy for a while. I do not wish to name and blame anyone, the xpm staff have been very helpful, but it wasn't what we were looking for. The servers became too unreliable and went down too often, so I decided to make my own platform: RGC.

we hoped for a closer cooperation when you have RGC up and running :) And it is finally realised at least through PD :* I personally was kinda sad to see you go away...


Due to error in our proxy that allowed for playdota.eu games to be played on RGC, in next week or two playing pd.eu wont be possible until we fix the issue.
Thank you

sorry, I do not get it...what was the problem (remember, I am almost ignorant in IT beyond  software stuff :D )
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Zemunac on September 06, 2010, 22:33
Well someone found an expolit in proxy server, that allowed him to ddos our servers making users unable to connect to it. We are fixing the exploit, and we hope all to be up and running soon.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: MiZiGe on September 07, 2010, 12:19
people are really creative on the wrong places...
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: iluv_meow on September 17, 2010, 23:43
damn it ! all these shits happens when I wana play via rgc !  >:(
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Aschenpudgel on September 18, 2010, 03:50
i like the idea and am thankfully for the effort but 2 things just make RGC unplayable:

1. signing for gamemode -ap will result in an opened game with -cm cuz only 3 wanted -ap and 7 wanted -cm...
instead of letting 3 ppl w8 for more (every sign there is at least 1 ap) a game gets created that 3 ppl dont want to play!

2. as a linuxuser the client has performanceissues. more developer should use java instead :/
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: vaikiss on October 31, 2010, 03:19
for me rgc client is fine   if u dont like ap dotas u can play thru bnet
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: prof.dr.martin on November 26, 2010, 00:57
Okay so ,one of the best clients out there ( now its even better than garena ) .
Lag-Free Games on hostbots.
Some funny games, mostly playing cm mode ( to teach the other players how to play in the world of the professional gamers. )
I must admit, i am one of the older players on it ,i know rogers very well and i must admit they payed a lot of attention and time to this project that is sure successfull. its only matter of time before rgc will get active completely ( even more active than garena it is nowadays , cuz garena gets more shit and shit everyday ) .
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: vaikiss on November 26, 2010, 08:47
but community of rgc kinda sux  there alot of retards in cm pubs nowadays  ruining games n shit
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: LiLThuG on November 26, 2010, 10:28
but community of rgc kinda sux  there alot of retards in cm pubs nowadays  ruining games n shit

Who asks you to play pub games :P
Their are better leagues as well...All you need to do is post a vouch request...
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: vaikiss on November 26, 2010, 10:29
im 2 lazy for that also i have other laagues to play on  but when those are empty(night time) i sometime join rgc cm pubs for some fun competitive games
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: LiLThuG on November 26, 2010, 11:33
im 2 lazy for that also i have other laagues to play on  but when those are empty(night time) i sometime join rgc cm pubs for some fun competitive games

lol...competitive games on rgc pub?? pd is better than rgc pub..
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: sculptra on January 07, 2011, 20:00
:(
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: Avalanche on January 07, 2011, 21:22
 pzz changed my mind *roll eyes*
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: iluv_meow on January 26, 2011, 01:43
sir rogers, when access to playdota would be available again?
would appreciated it if you look into it when you have the time.
Hope u win the award thingy btw, lols.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: mrNiceguy on January 26, 2011, 17:05
Hey, heeeyyyy, look who was here. At least say hello when u come from time to time meow :P.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: iluv_meow on January 27, 2011, 23:35
lols, gg

HELLO  ;D
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: mrNiceguy on January 28, 2011, 19:58
hia, u r alive, come back to us meow :D.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: sh4dowshunt on February 10, 2011, 16:52
hello ...just 1 question

what is this ??????......i had to wait 5 minutes until every looser decided to type ready and after that i got to play a hero that some1 wants? ...wtf?? ...get back to bnet.
Title: Re: Playdota.eu is now available on RGC - Ranked gaming Client
Post by: yaphets_ on March 01, 2011, 12:59
hello ...just 1 question

what is this ??????......i had to wait 5 minutes until every looser decided to type ready and after that i got to play a hero that some1 wants? ...wtf?? ...get back to bnet.

Did you heard of -cm mode (captain)? i bet you didn't and btw you can change the mode in lobby but you must let other players to change too cause it is made by votes... Still this client is beta but in near future will be best client ever for leagues and for pub games.