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Title: Battleground Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 02:49
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BATTLEGROUND CHAT ROOM
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Asandir on December 01, 2014, 09:02
I request award for best supports
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 01, 2014, 09:34
Why isn't there a professional feeder award jimmy, for this asandeer guy. :D
He earned it. :D
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: ColdWorld on December 01, 2014, 12:48
So sad, awards only for position 1/2.
SUPPORTS WIN GAME, NOT CARRY! SUPPORT U LOW NOOBS.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: div.ide on December 01, 2014, 13:30
Did you decide for eliminaiton format yet? I've seen that you suggested BO3, but if you actually manage to gain attention of enough teams, this will simply not work because of time restrictions.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 01, 2014, 13:56
So sad, awards only for position 1/2.
SUPPORTS WIN GAME, NOT CARRY! SUPPORT U LOW NOOBS.
No they don't, they get their team ahead/behind depending on how ok/horrible they are.

Yes, you can't win games without proper supports sometimes because you get too far behind from early-mid, but other times no matter how good supports you have you won't win if you have bad players on the other roles, it goes both ways.

Saying a single role is the most important is simply false.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 15:50
Support Awards Will Be added .

Did you decide for eliminaiton format yet? I've seen that you suggested BO3, but if you actually manage to gain attention of enough teams, this will simply not work because of time restrictions.
Can u elaborate a bit , so i can understand it better.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 16:04
People who are willing to Play will decide on how this will work.
Instead of answering with "NO" , "OK" , " Just NO" ; like some people from Staff does.
People who is playing will decide, how they wanna play it, on what conditions they wanna play it and other.

I'we been witness to situations where many gamers expressed themself with their wishes and thoughts,
after what they have recived reply , type " Just NO" etc .

So , bottom line, whatever players decide, it will be like that , because they are playing it , not me.
Imho ,this place has taken a downfall just because of that situations, where people who dont have understanding and love for tha game, take matter in their hands and deny everyone the fun they want.

On the topic that there is not enough people to play Tournaments, Battlegrounds and participate on other
Events that are organized here, that is simply not the truth.

We are all playing here (Most of us) , and there is alot of people playing on Bot.
I think since they are willing to separate 2-4 hours daily to play Dota with Random people, play games where there are many Ruiners , Flamers and other . Surely have desire to play something on a higher level.

Truth is , there is drasticly smaller number of people playing Dota , but those who remain here, are here because they love it ( and that means something ), some time ago ( couple of years ) , people played Dota, beacuse it was somewhat mainstream , now, only those who really love it stayed .
And i think they desirve something better than everyday PUBs with Ruiners, Leavers , Flamers and mofos.

Tons of people on BOt, dont have the slightest idea about what Forum ,and what are we talking/planning here.

When using !ann command , i add /w JIMMY for more informations ; there is Tons of people wispering , what tour , when ,what forum , since where there is tournaments and so on.

And those that dare to join are met with Harsh Comments , judgement and so on.
From people i dont want to mention.
But with Joined efforts , i think we can make something good outta all this.

Damn this is a long post o.O
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Ayd.Mev on December 01, 2014, 16:14
how to join in battle ? l have a team
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: div.ide on December 01, 2014, 16:15
Woah, sudden wall of text before i finishing scribbling mine :P

Well, it sort of answers my questions, but bear in mind that if you ask them what do they want, all you will get is riot, opinions will always differ.

To put it simply, if you decided for BO3, you might need lot of time to complete all games even if you get total of 4 teams in brackets.

Asking because you announced nothing particularly conclusive about either brackets (single elimination, double elimination etc.), approximate schedule (one day? multiple days?) or match format (besides it being 5v5 -CD).

I think it's important to plan this a bit ahead just so participants had idea what are they getting into. It's 5v5 after all, games are considerably longer on average (compared to your usual 1v1-3v3 tours), and coordinating 10 players is a bit more tedious than 2-6. If you predict event to last, say, 3 hours, and it suddenly drags into 7, you might have trouble finishing it.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 16:17
Good , thread will be opened where you can Submit your team.
It will be opened as soon as i take council with my Admin regarding all this.

Honestly , i made this event ,and remodeled rules and Awards and other on my own.
I will have to Discuss this with my Admin , and confirm everything.

So, tommorow or such, thread will be opened and you can submit your Gamers for tha Event.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: .SaLiH. on December 01, 2014, 18:39
i agree with jimmy. There are tons of players who doesn't know about this forum or how to register.. There are even players who is afraid of mods.. we have to find some way to collect people in forum and make them come to forum.

Also some activities in forum would be awsome like GFX contests.. some games or stuff like that
The thing is just to get an orginal idea..
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: beastiary on December 01, 2014, 19:43
nightmare +1
lastest map is 6.81d
CD sux
my three pieces, middle piece most important
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Bart on December 01, 2014, 19:51
and how will you value best support based on what?:D
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 19:58
Good Good , just try to give opinions.
Instead of saying " CD is bad " tell what mode would you like to play and so on.
Be original .



We will Try 5vs5 Tommorow.
People who have Teams , Post it Here.
We will try to see how it goes , after that we will improve it and so on.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: beastiary on December 01, 2014, 20:01
sure i wont play but i suggest CM/REVERSECM  dunno whats shortcut
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 20:03
Suggestion Noted
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: div.ide on December 01, 2014, 20:08
and how will you value best support based on what?:D
Most wards placed! Or least gold fed to enemy by deaths :P
Call the award #1/2/3 Ward Bitch :D

No seriously, that is a valid question - can you really objectively measure game impact by comparing single stat in vacuum (and which one)? But then, same applies to any position (notice that best farmer doesn't necessarily mean best carry).

Best Farmer/Killer awards are not strictly tied to a particular position, which is why it kinda works. Best support... Not sure.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: .SaLiH. on December 01, 2014, 20:09
killer= kills
farmer= number of killed creeps
support=asist?
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 20:11
killer= kills
farmer= number of killed creeps
support=asist?
That seem legit

but taking in consideration Observers/Sentrys
I can take a glimpse on Item Builds in Games ( that dont take long )
To check on Mekansms/Pipes etc.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Oceano on December 01, 2014, 20:15
killer= kills
farmer= number of killed creeps
support=asist?
^^
This is good classic suggestion.
I am adherent,follower here. I don`t have team but I wish to participate.

P.S Jimmy nice work trying to keep things alive here. +1
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: beastiary on December 01, 2014, 20:47
best support decided by vote same as captain
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Bart on December 01, 2014, 20:49
just leave best killer and farmer....

support can easily get best killer if u count (k+a) - 2xd
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 21:04
best support decided by vote same as captain

This sounds Kinda Good

Anyhow im up for Voting on everything :)

It is a most effective thing to do . +1



I am adherent,follower here. I don`t have team but I wish to participate.


Come tommorow , there will be people i quess .

Ill keep announcing it, peps will show up , i hope there will be enough for a team.
afterall i dont have a team also, if u need someone to buy chicken , place wards , im available :)
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 01, 2014, 21:46
and how will you value best support based on what?:D
Most wards placed! Or least gold fed to enemy by deaths :P
Call the award #1/2/3 Ward Bitch :D

No seriously, that is a valid question - can you really objectively measure game impact by comparing single stat in vacuum (and which one)? But then, same applies to any position (notice that best farmer doesn't necessarily mean best carry).

Best Farmer/Killer awards are not strictly tied to a particular position, which is why it kinda works. Best support... Not sure.
Nothing can be determined by statistics, statistics are quite irrelevant, one can look amazing in stats and be a terrible player, and one can have far from impressive stats and be the best player.

Having 9999 creeps doesn't make you the best farmer if you fail to do anything with them or if you farm them while your team is dying without you, having 99 kills doesn't make you the best carry if you do them while your team died for you and then you still can't win the game, having 99 assists doesn't make you the best support (this is not even close to what supporting actually means, by the logic of some people here spectre/zeus/furi etc. will be the best support if they're picked, cuz their ulties get assists always if those people that get hit by them die), buying 999 wards doesn't make you the best warder if you put them in bad places at bad times, etc.

best support decided by vote same as captain

This sounds Kinda Good

Anyhow im up for Voting on everything :)

It is a most effective thing to do . +1

A limited number of votes, preferably only of the captains or the best players would render results closer to reality than normal voting.

Normal voting is far from being good, the votes of clueless individuals will render reality irrelevant, but normal voting is still better than determining the awards by statistics.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 01, 2014, 21:57
This is the First time since i Joined Lagabuse/Playdota that i give CoMMon a positive carma :)

Everything you said is in place and about that voting, i wanted to edit my post about it, but you said it.

Good post
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: MadMan on December 01, 2014, 22:34
CoMMoN is a good guy in the rare moments he's too lazy to pretend he's a badass know it all ;D
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: KeMCek on December 01, 2014, 22:59
Our team need +1
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: div.ide on December 01, 2014, 23:01
Damn, a good quality post from SeLDoM1337, a sight to behold.

Anyways, that's exactly what I meant saying that best farmer doesn't make best carry. It's a stat. Largely depends on other 9 players as well. Which is why determining best <insert position> based on stats is not going to work. I like the idea with voting too, it *might* be more accurate, but then we'll need all eligible for voting to actually watch most (if not all) games to really make it count.

(that reminds me... best farmer = most creep kills total? Creeps per minute? Highest GPM? Highest Net worth? Total gold earned? These are 5 different stats and all would be more or less relevant.)
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Oceano on December 01, 2014, 23:04
CoMMoN is a good guy in the rare moments he's too lazy to pretend he's a badass know it all ;D

In the end, we must agree,he knows quite much, as he proved with post above. Nicely said I admit.
See you all on Battleground
Cheers 
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: MadMan on December 01, 2014, 23:05
Actually best farmer means creeps/match but this depends also because if somebody gets 500 creeps in 90 minutes...that ain't much :P
We'll figure these out in time.

That's why we got a community...to ask for opinions.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Agov^ on December 01, 2014, 23:45
im looking for a pro team mean pro players like me  :P
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: KeMCek on December 01, 2014, 23:49
im looking for a pro team mean pro players like me  :P

You need to check League of Legends cuz you are only pro on that game.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 02, 2014, 02:40
G.LittleBrother (captain) Dervis P^M Scissors Steff
1st Team Reported for Tommorow.

Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: ZIIIZ on December 02, 2014, 10:55
-EasyLSM-(Captain) ,Goblin] ,Sasuke-Uchiha , Dipen , Neprijatelj.

EDIT:I Highlighted you as Captain.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Rocka on December 02, 2014, 12:03
common go !pub for teamplayers, if you need +1 ill join
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on December 02, 2014, 14:36
I'll bring some SSers if I find some free time
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 02, 2014, 14:52
Ok ,it is done then.

Lets gather on La Tour Channel at , lets say 17:00 Server Time?
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 02, 2014, 14:58
Guys , we can hold this at 17:00 ST Today.
Or tommorow at any time when u wish ( agree on )

Please speak you mind

~i apologize , i have obligations after 6 PM , they may call on me sooner ,and i dont wanna ruin your game.
If possible, we can do this tommorow at any time .
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Rocka on December 02, 2014, 16:40
wat? its just team vs team at any random day at any random time? im team common, PEOPLE PLEASE STOP STALKING ME VIA PM I HAVE CONTRACT AT COMMON HE MY LEADER DONT SPAM ME SPAM HIM PLS
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 02, 2014, 17:13
Yeah ,time was not agreed upon.
So , tommorow 18:00 Server Time battleground rolls.

See you there
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: .SaLiH. on December 02, 2014, 17:24
team captain:NABAN
NEBEN
Ayd.Mev
KeMCek
SaLiH.
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: SaintKnight on December 03, 2014, 17:51
team captain:SaintKnight
players:
BLACKEYE
myubernlck
DESTROYER
myubernick
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 03, 2014, 17:59
team captain:SaintKnight
players:
BLACKEYE
myubernlck
DESTROYER
myubernick

Added !
Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: AcidSnow on December 03, 2014, 18:23
Team captain: AcidSnow
players:
siegfried.
chilla_deluxe
ya-_-wa
22056758787856735

Title: Re: 5v5 Battleground
Post by: Jimmy on December 03, 2014, 20:05
Team captain: AcidSnow
players:
siegfried.
chilla_deluxe
ya-_-wa
22056758787856735

Added!
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Boki_ on December 04, 2014, 17:47
i think this.
brate dragi napravis ziri ko u zvezdama granda i opaaa klae nek bude glavni i nek glasaju hahahahaha za najboljeg supporta i sve ostalo :D
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 04, 2014, 17:56
Ye , best killer will be awarded.
Captain and Supports will be voted on.
Because there is no real way to determine who is best Cap/Supp :)
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: 22059930376301 on December 05, 2014, 12:04
its 22059930376301 ffs
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 05, 2014, 13:13
Acid Registered you , later he PM'd me your "real" Number name. :)
All Good Now
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Bart on December 07, 2014, 17:55
Fight for those :)

#1 Farmer
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/justinww1992/LA%20forums/RotCfarmer1.png)
#2 Farmer
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/justinww1992/LA%20forums/RotCfarmer2.png)
#3 Farmer
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/justinww1992/LA%20forums/RotCfarmer3.png)

#1 Support
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u665/bart0zzo/Lagabuse%20Awards/Support1_zps4882efb2.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/bart0zzo/media/Lagabuse%20Awards/Support1_zps4882efb2.jpg.html)
#2 Support
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u665/bart0zzo/Lagabuse%20Awards/Support2_zps7412f703.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/bart0zzo/media/Lagabuse%20Awards/Support2_zps7412f703.jpg.html)
#3 Support
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u665/bart0zzo/Lagabuse%20Awards/Support3_zpsf2290752.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/bart0zzo/media/Lagabuse%20Awards/Support3_zpsf2290752.jpg.html)

Kapitano #1
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u665/bart0zzo/Lagabuse%20Awards/kapitano1_zps59f01564.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/bart0zzo/media/Lagabuse%20Awards/kapitano1_zps59f01564.jpg.html)
Kapitano #2
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u665/bart0zzo/Lagabuse%20Awards/kapitano2_zpsc6633300.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/bart0zzo/media/Lagabuse%20Awards/kapitano2_zpsc6633300.jpg.html)
Kapitano #3
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u665/bart0zzo/Lagabuse%20Awards/kapitano3_zps0afd420c.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/bart0zzo/media/Lagabuse%20Awards/kapitano3_zps0afd420c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: crazymurderer on December 07, 2014, 19:14
wheres mvp ?
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Bart on December 07, 2014, 19:15
no mvp coz dota is 5v5 :D
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 07, 2014, 19:18
MVP /Most Valued Player can be considered similar as Support.

Since those 2 are to close ,it can be considered as same.
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 07, 2014, 19:23
no mvp coz dota is 5v5 :D
Nice excuse for not having an icon for it. ;D
MVP /Most Valued Player can be considered similar as Support.

Since those 2 are to close ,it can be considered as same.
MVP should be given to the best overall player in those games, it should be any role, there already is icon for support.
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 07, 2014, 19:25
I know there is , thats what i said.

Hmm, so Combination of Creeps/Kills/Assists ( Wards, Items(Supportive [Meka,Pipe,Etc o.O]) .

Mixture of all those will me a MVP?
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 07, 2014, 20:05
I know there is , thats what i said.

Hmm, so Combination of Creeps/Kills/Assists ( Wards, Items(Supportive [Meka,Pipe,Etc o.O]) .

Mixture of all those will me a MVP?
More relevant than those things you mentioned can be the guy who baited the entire enemy team into killing themselves, or wasting a lot of time of the enemy team by dragging them to the position he wanted to buy more time for his team, or the one who did well in fights, or the one who took action when it was needed/where it was needed to get his team ahead ... the game decider in other words, if there was any, that should be the MVP.
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 07, 2014, 20:09
How should decide on this.

Maybe several people can be picked to check games( replays or Live [from time to time])

And give them MVP, or , pool voting?
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on December 07, 2014, 20:37
How should decide on this.

Maybe several people can be picked to check games( replays or Live [from time to time])

And give them MVP, or , pool voting?
It would probably be best to select only some gud players that are capable of being impartial and of judging accurately + maybe additionally captains giving their opinion on it too.
Pool voting would be the much more simple approach, but the results will most likely be more inaccurate.
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 10, 2014, 21:30
If you are interested , we can make Battleground Twice per week .
If you are into it.
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Chilla_Deluxe on December 10, 2014, 22:06
One is enough i think :S
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: SaintKnight on December 11, 2014, 10:27
One is enough i think :S
stop mh plz
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on December 11, 2014, 10:44
sup
(http://www.kreskowka.pl/img/videos/154/4a5b396f5f251.JPG)
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on December 11, 2014, 11:33
(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/3204840swsw.gif)
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: dumbass_3 on December 17, 2014, 08:50
if anyone needs a player, PM me
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: ilikedat on December 18, 2014, 08:21
can u stop deleting my posts? i was serious when i said i need a team. whats your problem with it? lolz
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: dumbass_3 on December 18, 2014, 10:43
can u stop deleting my posts? i was serious when i said i need a team. whats your problem with it? lolz

Jean and fika said they wanna play
Title: Re: BATTLEGROUND Chat Room
Post by: Jimmy on January 05, 2015, 14:52
Due to lack of Moderators in Tournament Section , Battlegrounds are postponed until further notice.
There is 1 New Moderator [ Who is Still in Training ]
There will no longer be Head Moderators in this section . [ removed due to Reorganization ].

We will continue with this event when Tour Section gets complete.

NOTE: Standard 1vs1/2vs2/3vs3/CG Tournaments will be held As Planned.
Each moderator will hold 1 Tournament Weekly.

Enjoy Our Tournaments And we are sorry for any inconvenience.
Title: Re: Battleground Chat Room
Post by: DatFace on February 11, 2015, 18:53

Battlegrounds (http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?board=150.0) are on again


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