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Title: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: baja_cro on June 26, 2012, 02:34
i think 25 is 2 much ,,,
winer can be determinant in 15 minutes ..
sometimes even in 5 ..
but 15 is enough

i know that uber wont change it .. but i had 2 say my opinion ..
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: NijeHtelo on June 26, 2012, 05:34
it should be from min 0 lol
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: ^Huge_Bastard^ on June 26, 2012, 06:25
i think 25 is 2 much ,,,
winer can be determinant in 15 minutes ..
sometimes even in 5 ..
but 15 is enough

i know that uber wont change it .. but i had 2 say my opinion ..
ahahahaha
you noobs can't even stand 25 minutes of getting owned, you wanna leave faster now, imo it should be set to 45 minutes, so you noobs finally learn to play
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: div.ide on June 26, 2012, 07:02
I don't see how fountain camping is supposed to teach anyone anything, kind sir.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: ^Huge_Bastard^ on June 26, 2012, 08:58
if you get owned so hard that your enemy fountain camps you, you should either delete dota, or face the consequences ..  not run away faster, if you choose to run away from your failures you wont get anywhere
deal with it, and learn to play
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: [kosarkas] on June 26, 2012, 10:04
WOW teach us pls master yoda! Who the fuck are you?? All these things you write makes me only think that u are one of those guys: "me afk, go play now" etc etc... mr. Know-it-all

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^Huge_Bastard^ (Allies)    ff today
^Huge_Bastard^ (Allies)    time wasters

i just random checked one of your games ;)
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: iNevermore on June 26, 2012, 10:15
Hahahaa good one koserkas!

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^Huge_Bastard^ (Allies)    ff today
^Huge_Bastard^ (Allies)    time wasters

hypocrite detected!  ;D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: ColdWorld on June 26, 2012, 13:10
Epic guy who play trapnabs EM games QQ
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: pHu^^thAi on June 26, 2012, 15:02
hmm,15 mins is too low,25 is too much,so 20 mins will be just fine :D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: FU I am PeNGuiN on June 26, 2012, 15:06
hmm,15 mins is too low,25 is too much,so 20 mins will be just fine :D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: [kosarkas] on June 26, 2012, 16:32
Nah,
One leaver  <  3 mins = rmk
Two leavers <  9 mins = rmk

!ff at 15 mins :))


Seems right IMO  but  w/e
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: ^Huge_Bastard^ on June 26, 2012, 18:43
Epic guy who play trapnabs EM games QQ
dont be mad i owned you son, you might be good someday, have faith in yourself
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Rocka on June 26, 2012, 20:37
I love the way how baja posts
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: baja_cro on June 26, 2012, 23:57
I love the way how baja posts

ofc u like ...
kneel down and worship my posts ..
baja_cro_techies_pro

Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GmX on June 27, 2012, 00:21
i think 25 is 2 much ,,,
winer can be determinant in 15 minutes ..
sometimes even in 5 ..
but 15 is enough

i know that uber wont change it .. but i had 2 say my opinion ..
totally agreed indeed when u will play against night^^stalker  with morf u need to ff at min 5 not 15 -.-
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Blind_Joker on June 27, 2012, 16:35
totally agreed indeed when u will play against night^^stalker  with morf u need to ff at min 5 not 15 -.-


(http://i.imgur.com/OINRH.png)
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: End on June 27, 2012, 21:45
WOW teach us pls master yoda! Who the fuck are you?? All these things you write makes me only think that u are one of those guys: "me afk, go play now" etc etc... mr. Know-it-all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_oNMH0GTk
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GmX on August 09, 2012, 22:25
BUMP !!!!!! Lets make a vote about it ? its really needed . min 15 ff is better than 25 imo so lets start a vote
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: P_u..D_gE on August 10, 2012, 02:05
!Votekick "The hypocrite"

!Yes

!Vote FF (Min 15)

!Yes
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: shpura on August 10, 2012, 02:31
im also for 15 min ff
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: LEGEN-WAIT-DARY on August 10, 2012, 16:49
!vote 15min ff
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Andi on August 10, 2012, 21:12
25 min ff its ok.i think needs to adjust the moment when to players of a team leave the game after min 15 and later leaves all team,other team go to kill them to their base.in the end of game stats are saved but other teams deaths are not saved.in my opinion this is not fair.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: [Jesus.pwned.u] on August 11, 2012, 00:40
!Votekick "The hypocrite"

!Yes

!Vote FF (Min 15)

!Yes
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GmX on August 11, 2012, 00:42
25 min ff its ok.i think needs to adjust the moment when to players of a team leave the game after min 15 and later leaves all team,other team go to kill them to their base.in the end of game stats are saved but other teams deaths are not saved.in my opinion this is not fair.
i dont understand you ,, once the hall team Agree for !ff it will be like the game is end  ( for example like youdestroyed the Frozen Throne )       so when the other team kills u no stats will be counted for them it will be just for fun tell me what is the unfair thingy in this ?
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: DatFace on August 11, 2012, 00:43
totally agreed indeed when u will play against night^^stalker  with morf u need to ff at min 5 not 15 -.-


(http://i.imgur.com/OINRH.png)

hahahahah xD
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: NiGhT^^StAlKeR on August 11, 2012, 00:45
^

Cause of that in IHRL you can !ff anytime :D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GmX on August 11, 2012, 01:02
^

Cause of that in IHRL you can !ff anytime :D

ur evil  >:(  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Andi on August 11, 2012, 09:48

i dont understand you ,, once the hall team Agree for !ff it will be like the game is end  ( for example like youdestroyed the Frozen Throne )       so when the other team kills u no stats will be counted for them it will be just for fun tell me what is the unfair thingy in this ?
[/quote]

i said not when all team go ff,but 4 players of a team leaves the game after min 15.in that moment autoban is off but stats are saved and all players other team go to their base and make kills.their kills are saved but other team deaths are not saved.i think autoban should not be off,or stats not saved.i have watched a game that 9 players have quit and one player has gone to their base and make infinite kills.i think im pretty clear now.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: shpura on August 11, 2012, 12:00
and exactly what does that have to do with 15 min ff?
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: baja_cro on August 11, 2012, 12:43
and exactly what does that have to do with 15 min ff?

whatever they need 2 do, they wont do it :D
since season started nothing changed ...
write new idea and hope that they read it and maybe implement in next season ..
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: baja_cro on August 11, 2012, 16:02
hmm,15 mins is too low,25 is too much,so 20 mins will be just fine :D
!ff after 15 min is maybe bad idea. bether option is if 4 or 3 players go !ff after 15 or 25 min they can leave if they pres !ff. i see when 2 or 3 players leave in 1 team after 25 min, opponents can get bether stats if heros not locked. you can enable !ff after 15 min and give chance to player who steel play that game to make bether creep stats, and maybe hero kill stats, if someone in losing team steel play only

in 5-20 games always must come 1, maybe more retards who want bether stats and dont wanna go !ff. sometimes opponents just play for kills, have global control in game and that tard is only one who gives 20 or 30 min more for enemys. what to do there? lock your hero is disabled, and opponents destroying fountain. what to do when opponents destroy fountain without get autoban 7 days?


after 15 min 4 players !ff
after 20 or 25 min 3 players !ff


imagine you have void with bad farm in team ...
and u have warlock with aganim refresher  ..
warlock go !ff and leave, void takes items and kill them all
instead of lost game, your team win cause u left
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GmX on August 11, 2012, 17:22
hmm,15 mins is too low,25 is too much,so 20 mins will be just fine :D
!ff after 15 min is maybe bad idea. bether option is if 4 or 3 players go !ff after 15 or 25 min they can leave if they pres !ff. i see when 2 or 3 players leave in 1 team after 25 min, opponents can get bether stats if heros not locked. you can enable !ff after 15 min and give chance to player who steel play that game to make bether creep stats, and maybe hero kill stats, if someone in losing team steel play only

in 5-20 games always must come 1, maybe more retards who want bether stats and dont wanna go !ff. sometimes opponents just play for kills, have global control in game and that tard is only one who gives 20 or 30 min more for enemys. what to do there? lock your hero is disabled, and opponents destroying fountain. what to do when opponents destroy fountain without get autoban 7 days?


after 15 min 4 players !ff
after 20 or 25 min 3 players !ff


imagine you have void with bad farm in team ...
and u have warlock with aganim refresher  ..
warlock go !ff and leave, void takes items and kill them all
instead of lost game, your team win cause u left
True
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GREED on August 11, 2012, 18:42
imagine that u are loosing 65:2 and whole enemy team disconects by  unknown reason stronger then gproxy. u wold probably win ^^
ff command should be completely del
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: pHu^^thAi on August 11, 2012, 21:28
imagine that u are loosing 65:2 and whole enemy team disconects by  unknown reason stronger then gproxy. u wold probably win ^^
ff command should be completely del
Heh,it happened 2-3 times :D similar situation.
Anyway,nothing is going to be changed so chill out.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: HAMMERSTEIN_ on August 12, 2012, 21:46
i think 25 is 2 much ,,,
winer can be determinant in 15 minutes ..
sometimes even in 5 ..
but 15 is enough

i know that uber wont change it .. but i had 2 say my opinion ..

meybe 20 minutes are better!
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: vaikiss on August 12, 2012, 22:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k&list=UUoRStp3YZPW0kGt8UebCMqg&index=1&feature=plcp
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: ak.47. on August 13, 2012, 10:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k&list=UUoRStp3YZPW0kGt8UebCMqg&index=1&feature=plcp

lol epic :D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: underhatten on October 10, 2012, 00:16
I agree. 25 min is too much. When the opponents team are overfeeded at 10 min and they got etc pudge they can just hook you out in 15 min. The stats are taking a bad hit. Maybe increase the dmg of the fountain too. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 10, 2012, 00:37
I agree. 25 min is too much. When the opponents team are overfeeded at 10 min and they got etc pudge they can just hook you out in 15 min. The stats are taking a bad hit. Maybe increase the dmg of the fountain too. Just my opinion.

Yes Admins, do that pls! :))
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Rationalized on October 16, 2012, 13:16
^^I support that too >D Maybe you won't even need MUN for that  ;D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: 50Euro on October 16, 2012, 13:32
perfect ff time is 20min
at 15 min there could be
a change but at 20 min u can be 70% sure that u ll win or lose
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: 21^Blok on October 16, 2012, 15:23
perfect ff time is 20min   8)
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: pHu^^thAi on October 16, 2012, 16:43
rofl increase the damage of fountain xD send email to icefrog for that
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: tatkosmolko on October 18, 2012, 22:57
agreed with G__R__E__E__D, ff command should be removed completely, let us fountain feed on you noobs, you don't have enough skills to creep kill and deni? learn them, you don't know how to avoid ganks? learn them, for god sake let us have some fun with you, owning for only 15 minutes doesn't seem fair, or make a force staff, get money from that, and turn the tides of battle.... zzzzz you girls lack imagination
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: BOGROKI on October 19, 2012, 18:16
well it would be best that !ff command doesnt exist at all...i just played awesome game.in min 24 score was like 35-10 for enemies...my whole team ffed i didnt wanted to ff...they started crying and crying and afkin.Than we won min 85 http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4591976/rd-eu-1900-1-1 .... SO NEVER QUIT!!! dont give up there's always chance while throne standing :)
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: NonStopWeed on October 30, 2012, 22:24
WOW teach us pls master yoda! Who the fuck are you?? All these things you write makes me only think that u are one of those guys: "me afk, go play now" etc etc... mr. Know-it-all

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^Huge_Bastard^ (Allies)    ff today
^Huge_Bastard^ (Allies)    time wasters

i just random checked one of your games ;)

HAHHA :D Thanks GOD we have people like you HAHAHHAHA ... and truth .. 25 minutes is long , but when you winning and other team forfeit in 15 minutes , isn't it just time waste , and a bit rusty.I'm playing game to fight and to make game more harder to play , so It's maybe better be 20 minutes , either of 25 or 15 :) +1 Karma for Kosarakas
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Fairplay_ on November 07, 2012, 22:10
Quote
well it would be best that !ff command doesnt exist at all...i just played awesome game.in min 24 score was like 35-10 for enemies...my whole team ffed i didnt wanted to ff...they started crying and crying and afkin.Than we won min 85 http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4591976/rd-eu-1900-1-1 .... SO NEVER QUIT!!! dont give up there's always chance while throne standing

Y But somtime it's an obvious lost with no chance !
I honnestly played a lot of games where we where owned ? so the idea is staying at base (espasially at late game) and waiting enemy to do a deadly mistack...
but u need 3 thing to win a lost game
   * Hope
   * Ennemy mistake (in late game)
   * luck  :)
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: glodar on November 07, 2012, 23:09
ff in 15 at 25 u can ff with 4 player
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Fairplay_ on November 07, 2012, 23:41
15 min is too early ... for the team who own...
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Sauzer on November 11, 2012, 13:18
15 ff! It's ok

Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Sauzer on November 11, 2012, 13:23
totally agreed indeed when u will play against night^^stalker  with morf u need to ff at min 5 not 15 -.-


(http://i.imgur.com/OINRH.png)


ahah
this deserve a +1!!!
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Sauzer on November 11, 2012, 18:20
On the other topic most pll were to reduce the ff time

Seems ppl dont vote here...
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Lufthansa. on November 11, 2012, 18:47
I think 25 like now is the best choice because 15 is too early and will effect games in a way that people will abuse it and ruin games early.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: dRagoLjuB on November 11, 2012, 19:42
as a guy said here 20/25 is perfect
in most case you CANT just CANT say you will lose (in 15 min)
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Sauzer on November 13, 2012, 12:12
as a guy said here 20/25 is perfect
in most case you CANT just CANT say you will lose (in 15 min)

Check quicly this:

http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4668518

after 13 mins 0 - 7 (a big feeder )
If hes not kicked the only other way is ff and save time

Since all pll (of a team) have to decide ff or not i think they should be free to do this when they want; why force them to continue?
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: hot10000 on November 13, 2012, 13:23
as a guy said here 20/25 is perfect
in most case you CANT just CANT say you will lose (in 15 min)

Check quicly this:

http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4668518

after 13 mins 0 - 7 (a big feeder )
If hes not kicked the only other way is ff and save time

Since all pll (of a team) have to decide ff or not i think they should be free to do this when they want; why force them to continue?
well ofc this happens if you you play em games.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Mamba on November 16, 2012, 00:27
20 or 25 min like now is ok, 15 min is too early and other choices like ff 15 and 25 with 4 players etc...sucks.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GREED on November 16, 2012, 00:59
mybe just rmk if someone leaves before min 10 not 5
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Illuminator_HR on November 28, 2012, 22:22
Hello,
Conclusion: Make ff possible in min 5, this is a fucking game, if my teammates and me aren't enjoying the game why the hell you force us to play it?

If you have the will to read next paragraph, im sure that this scenario will seem somewhat familiar:

My story: I just got banned for afk (nick: I_do_not_kill). It was 1550+ game or so (I don't have any ''pro'' friends to play with so my psr is ''only'' 1618 or so). First time i played dota was like 9 years ago, so i consider myself quite good.

I was dark seer and my mate ursa. So yeah, i give him shield, vaacum, give ursa speed and  should be gg. Ursa missed all his ground slams with max move speed. He was making power trades (1st item). Lion from my team was making vanguard (actually even worse, he bought stout shield, ring of health and then point booster). Windrunner from my team was making lothar. Score was like 2-15 in min 7. I went afk cause i didn't wanna waste atleast 18 more minutes of my time on this GAME on getting owned and waiting for another game that would hopefully be better then this one.
So i got banned for 5 days for afk.
Since lagabuse is only bot people play dota nowadays, i have no other option then to make another account (avoid ban) and play with it.

Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Astaroth on November 28, 2012, 22:39
That sux, but !ff in min 5? Just imagine you are in "better team", and the other team !ff asap just because they have bad pick.
20 creeps and 0 kills, how would you enjoy this game?
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: GREED on November 28, 2012, 22:48
im sorry bro... but u are not only one. it happens.. last game i played few hours ago we had abadon which resigned in first 10 minutes. he kept buying chicks and feeding them...they killed 15+ couriers... ofc we lost. also, when i rape, they !ff at 25 or they leave before 15; when im raped, we always have idiot which isnt in state to write !ff. so basically, get some good players, lock them in your team and gg. 
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: [Yuma]Psihijatar on January 09, 2013, 16:09
if its for example 20 : 0 main score for sentinel
bot = !ff scourge
Sentinel wins :)
and inversely
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on January 09, 2013, 16:18
but some go afk , some are just game ruinners.
what you said happens quite rarely .
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Dread^Lord on January 09, 2013, 16:52
15min is ok for me !
Frozen destroyed in :
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4757728
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4806806
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Sauzer on January 14, 2013, 12:56
15mins ff would be rly nice

Would be ok for a rly simply reason, the whole team needs to ff so where is the problem if 5 ppl accept to lose a game and saving time?

The other team gains psr so why not ff at 15???

I rly dont understand why an entire team is forced to play

And, anyway, ff lower exists, even though not here
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: dulovic on January 31, 2013, 12:16
well sauzer u got 1328psr and moving towards 1200 fast , so i don't think people should listen to you cause your games don't last long , cause u probably ff at 25 and cause u get owned a lot you want to move it to 15 , so i think this is a bad idea , only those people who get owned alot want to move it to min 15 , it is kinda stupid , i go midd kill someone 3 times , have about 60 creeps and they ff , aint no fun , or just having a carry team against some good , and ff at min 15 , and we win in min 55 , so i think 15 is really bad

Also you wont learn anything , and you wont play better , if you just ff the game

PS: Try playing a support sometimes maybe  you win some games and Trax aint a support
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: .maestro3berg. on January 31, 2013, 12:22
I voted 15min ff for only 1 reason.
For all noob & pub gamers :D
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: xMan-Y on January 31, 2013, 12:34
Allow FF when game start.
From the first minute.....
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: .maestro3berg. on January 31, 2013, 12:40
Allow FF when game start.
From the first minute.....
who 1st make 5 !ff`s has WON THE GAME :DDD
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: brad_hawk on January 31, 2013, 13:22
15min is so GOOD !
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Fairplay_ on January 31, 2013, 13:41
15mins ff would be rly nice

Would be ok for a rly simply reason, the whole team needs to ff so where is the problem if 5 ppl accept to lose a game and saving time?

The other team gains psr so why not ff at 15???

I rly dont understand why an entire team is forced to play  

And, anyway, ff lowe^r exists, even though not here

There is always a tard who wont ff even if u are being raped at fountain.
I was forced once to play a game ~80 min mega creep (we where defending thone for half an hour from mega creep),no ff, and enemy dont want to finish,  omg..
anyway I vote for it
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Sauzer on January 31, 2013, 19:29
well sauzer u got 1328psr and moving towards 1200 fast , so i don't think people should listen to you cause your games don't last long , cause u probably ff at 25 and cause u get owned a lot you want to move it to 15 , so i think this is a bad idea , only those people who get owned alot want to move it to min 15 , it is kinda stupid , i go midd kill someone 3 times , have about 60 creeps and they ff , aint no fun , or just having a carry team against some good , and ff at min 15 , and we win in min 55 , so i think 15 is really bad

Also you wont learn anything , and you wont play better , if you just ff the game

PS: Try playing a support sometimes maybe  you win some games and Trax aint a support

Man, nobody asked you to show us how stupid you are, so why u want show it?

Ok, now we know, thank you

I dont think that only ppl with high psr can argue on forum  and check better stats. Probably you are 1 of  those noobs that check only psr...well more than one time ppl with high prs asked me (in game and in lobby) why i have so low psr with my stats (that are much more better than yours)

simply...psr fail and i dont stack with friends and no hack at all

check chat and games, you will know

Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: dulovic on January 31, 2013, 20:38
well sauzer i never play in stacks , and if you play good you can win games , even thought you got a noob team or something like that , and i didnt say that only high psr players can disscus things on forum , but i dont think that a player whos games end in 25min just cause he cant ff earlier is fit to vote for such a thing that is just my point ,

psr dont mean much , but it shows that a player earned it somehow , even if they played like 500 games they have high psr , they have learned smt and a player with 140 games and still falling down to 1200 psr is no pro hes much bellow that , so i dont care which ''pro players'' told you that you play rly good or own.... It just doesnt matter , and i dont want to argue more cause i am right , and this aint a topic about that , i have just made my statement who can be listened to , and who cant
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: De_Inferno on April 11, 2013, 18:58
My opinion would be, when the enemie destroyes your lvl1, and lvl2 towers, thad you should be able to ff.
And anyway, ff after min 25 is just fine for me :=) as long as you play Ap,ar,sd,rd games.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Astaroth on April 12, 2013, 12:19
I think I already said that - ppl loves high numbers, wouldn't you be kinda disappointed if the game would end and you would have only 2/0/2 and 40/10/10 stats?
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: Shoot.2.Death on April 12, 2013, 21:28
well 25 ff fine for me but sometimes when enemy fountain camps(like this one http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5000149) and some assholes never ffes it sucks in my opinion they dont finish game espiceally when they have heroes like pudge,rylai,tiny(ghost+toss),omni,abddon also getting raped by enemy again and again teaches u nothing.Make system like this if a team(sentinel or scourge) have 15 kills or more then the other team in first 10 minutes ff should be enabled,in first 15 mins if a team have more then 20 kills then the other ff should be enabled.Because in games  like those its %99 decided and some says u can still win true u can maybe after 90 mins(in that 90mins I can play 3 or more games gain psr,learn new things,have fun etc) maybe but why waste time avarage game should be max 45 mins imo longer just boring also in rules it says players must prepare an hour for game so after that let autoban be off so players may leave if they want.
Title: Re: 15 minutes !ff
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on April 13, 2013, 12:41
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,131126.0.html