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Title: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: .booom. on July 25, 2011, 18:15
Hey guys, new class is out :) i think that most of the players dont know this so give it a look ;D and tell me what you think ... SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE AND FAVOURITE
Dota School - class 5 - Item Passive Stacking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwIqS5c5gk8#)

Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: HotBarbecuesBack on July 25, 2011, 18:29
Amazing video. I really enjoyed the transitions and the effects.

Also, imba moves from both teams.

Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: Astaroth on July 25, 2011, 18:56
Great work again. Showed, explain.
There is one mistake, buriza gives a 25% chance to deal 2.5x normal damage not 20% chance to deal 2.4x normal damage.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: Alucardo on July 25, 2011, 19:10
ok mate mate maaatteeee u confused me sooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


so ur saying if u bought scout shield after vangaurd it will make it worse?

vangaurd alone = 70% to block 40 damage 30% nothing

vangaurd + scount shield = 60% block 20 damage , 28% to block 40 damage 12% nothing

i rly understand that u make haaard efforts to make such videos and u were trying to explain them but too bad im soo stupid that i was paused in this video many times to understand what u were saying

the video is great no harsh feelings but this time i wont give u +1 like i always do b/c it was complicated (for me atleast) i know it isnt ur fault but im stupid so what to do?
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: End on July 25, 2011, 19:30
Helpful, good job!
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: .booom. on July 25, 2011, 19:37
ok mate mate maaatteeee u confused me sooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


so ur saying if u bought scout shield after vangaurd it will make it worse?

vangaurd alone = 70% to block 40 damage 30% nothing

vangaurd + scount shield = 60% block 20 damage , 28% to block 40 damage 12% nothing

i rly understand that u make haaard efforts to make such videos and u were trying to explain them but too bad im soo stupid that i was paused in this video many times to understand what u were saying

the video is great no harsh feelings but this time i wont give u +1 like i always do b/c it was complicated (for me atleast) i know it isnt ur fault but im stupid so what to do?

:DD dont worry :) i understand its a bit compicated but hey, u have to have some knowledge in maths :)
ill try to make it easier ... u see when u 1st buy vanguard AND THAN u buy sthout sheald, the stout sheald will  still block 20 dmg with 60% chances but vanguard WONT !! instead it will block 40 dmg with 28% chances BUT  never the less .. combining stout sheald and vanguard u can take normal dmg with only 12% chances.. which is a good thing :) ... BOTOM LINE !! NEVER BUY STOUT SHEALD AND THAN VANGUARD ;DD ..i hope i cleared things out :)
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: End on July 25, 2011, 19:40
Did you made this video? What's the name of the song?
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: .booom. on July 25, 2011, 21:09
Did you made this video? What's the name of the song?
ye i made it :P .. its tony igy - pentagramma
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: chelom on July 25, 2011, 22:06
ok mate mate maaatteeee u confused me sooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


so ur saying if u bought scout shield after vangaurd it will make it worse?

vangaurd alone = 70% to block 40 damage 30% nothing

vangaurd + scount shield = 60% block 20 damage , 28% to block 40 damage 12% nothing

i rly understand that u make haaard efforts to make such videos and u were trying to explain them but too bad im soo stupid that i was paused in this video many times to understand what u were saying

the video is great no harsh feelings but this time i wont give u +1 like i always do b/c it was complicated (for me atleast) i know it isnt ur fault but im stupid so what to do?

:DD dont worry :) i understand its a bit compicated but hey, u have to have some knowledge in maths :)
ill try to make it easier ... u see when u 1st buy vanguard AND THAN u buy sthout sheald, the stout sheald will  still block 20 dmg with 60% chances but vanguard WONT !! instead it will block 40 dmg with 28% chances BUT  never the less .. combining stout sheald and vanguard u can take normal dmg with only 12% chances.. which is a good thing :) ... BOTOM LINE !! NEVER BUY STOUT SHEALD AND THAN VANGUARD ;DD ..i hope i cleared things out :)

U can always drop the vanguard and picking it again so (its the lastest adquiere). that way you will block more damage. u will have 70% to block 40 with the vanguard. With the stout u will have from the 60% to block 20 damage, u will only receive 18% to block 20 cause they stack multiplicaty meaning that u will block 60% of the restant 30% of the hits that vanguard doesnt block.
So u will have 70% to block 40damage, 18% to block 20 and 12% no damage is blocked.
So in that case is better having vanguard and the stour shield. Always make vanguard the lastest adquire for better utility.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: Alucardo on July 25, 2011, 22:23
ok mate mate maaatteeee u confused me sooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


so ur saying if u bought scout shield after vangaurd it will make it worse?

vangaurd alone = 70% to block 40 damage 30% nothing

vangaurd + scount shield = 60% block 20 damage , 28% to block 40 damage 12% nothing

i rly understand that u make haaard efforts to make such videos and u were trying to explain them but too bad im soo stupid that i was paused in this video many times to understand what u were saying

the video is great no harsh feelings but this time i wont give u +1 like i always do b/c it was complicated (for me atleast) i know it isnt ur fault but im stupid so what to do?

:DD dont worry :) i understand its a bit compicated but hey, u have to have some knowledge in maths :)
ill try to make it easier ... u see when u 1st buy vanguard AND THAN u buy sthout sheald, the stout sheald will  still block 20 dmg with 60% chances but vanguard WONT !! instead it will block 40 dmg with 28% chances BUT  never the less .. combining stout sheald and vanguard u can take normal dmg with only 12% chances.. which is a good thing :) ... BOTOM LINE !! NEVER BUY STOUT SHEALD AND THAN VANGUARD ;DD ..i hope i cleared things out :)

U can always drop the vanguard and picking it again so (its the lastest adquiere). that way you will block more damage. u will have 70% to block 40 with the vanguard. With the stout u will have from the 60% to block 20 damage, u will only receive 18% to block 20 cause they stack multiplicaty meaning that u will block 60% of the restant 30% of the hits that vanguard doesnt block.
So u will have 70% to block 40damage, 18% to block 20 and 12% no damage is blocked.
So in that case is better having vanguard and the stour shield. Always make vanguard the lastest adquire for better utility.

i saw many ppl buying 2 vanguard with axe .. tbh its stupid
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: chelom on July 25, 2011, 23:12
well yea in fact buying another damage blocker is stupid if u already have one except maybe 2 stouts early to protect you from harrass. But its too situational anyways. having the second vanguard u just benefit from life and regen and the block its just 20% chance more which isnt pretty impressive. Well thats my though cause most of the damage u receive is magic anyways and 1 vanguard is enough for tanking creeps.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: .booom. on July 25, 2011, 23:13
ok mate mate maaatteeee u confused me sooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


so ur saying if u bought scout shield after vangaurd it will make it worse?

vangaurd alone = 70% to block 40 damage 30% nothing

vangaurd + scount shield = 60% block 20 damage , 28% to block 40 damage 12% nothing

i rly understand that u make haaard efforts to make such videos and u were trying to explain them but too bad im soo stupid that i was paused in this video many times to understand what u were saying

the video is great no harsh feelings but this time i wont give u +1 like i always do b/c it was complicated (for me atleast) i know it isnt ur fault but im stupid so what to do?

:DD dont worry :) i understand its a bit compicated but hey, u have to have some knowledge in maths :)
ill try to make it easier ... u see when u 1st buy vanguard AND THAN u buy sthout sheald, the stout sheald will  still block 20 dmg with 60% chances but vanguard WONT !! instead it will block 40 dmg with 28% chances BUT  never the less .. combining stout sheald and vanguard u can take normal dmg with only 12% chances.. which is a good thing :) ... BOTOM LINE !! NEVER BUY STOUT SHEALD AND THAN VANGUARD ;DD ..i hope i cleared things out :)

U can always drop the vanguard and picking it again so (its the lastest adquiere). that way you will block more damage. u will have 70% to block 40 with the vanguard. With the stout u will have from the 60% to block 20 damage, u will only receive 18% to block 20 cause they stack multiplicaty meaning that u will block 60% of the restant 30% of the hits that vanguard doesnt block.
So u will have 70% to block 40damage, 18% to block 20 and 12% no damage is blocked.
So in that case is better having vanguard and the stour shield. Always make vanguard the lastest adquire for better utility.

yh !!! u understod what i tryed to say :) .
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: Kalu on July 26, 2011, 00:25
You should add the proccing with eg. two bashers. You got 2,25% chance to get them both procc and deal the damage twice but the stun only once.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: Astaroth on July 26, 2011, 00:36
You should add the proccing with eg. two bashers. You got 2,25% chance to get them both procc and deal the damage twice but the stun only once.
Ain't true what you are saying imo. Bashed adds +40 dmg to every attack, so if you get 2 Bashers you'll get +80 dmg to every attack. Only percentage is at stun chance and Bashers doesn't stack, so 2 Bashers= +80 dmg and 25% melee/10% range chance to stun.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: Kalu on July 26, 2011, 00:40
You should add the proccing with eg. two bashers. You got 2,25% chance to get them both procc and deal the damage twice but the stun only once.
Ain't true what you are saying imo. Bashed adds +40 dmg to every attack, so if you get 2 Bashers you'll get +80 dmg to every attack. Only percentage is at stun chance and Bashers doesn't stack, so 2 Bashers= +80 dmg and 25% melee/10% range chance to stun.
Sry, you're right. It had to have a dmg proc in it like MKB does. So fixing it: You should add the proccing with eg. two MKBs. You got 12,25% chance to get them both procc and deal the damage twice but the stun only once.
Title: Re: Dota School - Item Passive Stacking
Post by: trytokill on July 26, 2011, 10:37
You should add the proccing with eg. two bashers. You got 2,25% chance to get them both procc and deal the damage twice but the stun only once.
Ain't true what you are saying imo. Bashed adds +40 dmg to every attack, so if you get 2 Bashers you'll get +80 dmg to every attack. Only percentage is at stun chance and Bashers doesn't stack, so 2 Bashers= +80 dmg and 25% melee/10% range chance to stun.
Sry, you're right. It had to have a dmg proc in it like MKB does. So fixing it: You should add the proccing with eg. two MKBs. You got 12,25% chance to get them both procc and deal the damage twice but the stun only once.

yh,  he is right ... well, im not changing the whole vid for thaat :PP u can put it in comments so ppl will thumbs up and everyone can see it ;D