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Most players here play since v5.0-6.0 so they think that there is one dota that evolves slightly. I play dota since v3.6 at reign of chaos. Dota always evolved, hereos were removed/added map changed etc.
This is how dota worked since day 1! If Dota didn't evolve then we would still have 30 heroes and a map that looked like the one at 2004.
Yes Dota1 evolved and 6.90a8 is the last step in evolution, the best dota map created since 2004. And now Dota1 server wants to become kind of Dota2 server to evolve and to that evolution step non-Dota map is official map for Dota1 with 30% of total dota players. This is 2020. with something good, very good which is going to be slowly removed in favor for few individuals who only spam in this topic or insult me or your moderators. Simple separate 2 leagues and let us play our game. Every time someone forget to use L
automatically is created SHIT Dota7 and it takes 30 seconds to create once again while losing players who fill other games.
Those people from Lobbying group only insult or post unrelated spam or use fake account for insulting your Head Moderator - this guy Tyrande, 2 years inactive forum account now comes to insult only, and what was he doing 2 years ago? He was insulting everyone. And bookeyize belongs to someone from this group Happy.. / grga_man / kna / MarvinJunior / nikolagay - all of them only want to eliminate Dota6.9 and Dota6.9 players and they are officially supported, few people got support over the majority of people who just play the game and the most of Dota6.9 players do not visit forum. The real measure of current situation is in games and players and it is much above 500 Dota6.9 players and bellow 200 Dota7 players on dota.eurobattle.net.
None from Dota6.9 players was against idea to help others who wanted to get rid of !privobs, but why to do damage on our back? Why we have to suffer with huge majority of players and games so minority can be satisfied.
iErnesto94 you are playing 6.9 map as well more often than Dota7, along with everyone from administration team, all of you are Dota6.9 players. Why do you play 6.9 if Dota7 is the next step in evolution? Because there are not enough players for Dota7 and because you like Dota6.9. The majority of players who provide 1000 dota games every week will slowly leave because when they come there is not always possible to start the game, so they go to play something else and not dota. Ask Dota6.9 players what do they think about removing the map and placing Dota7 as default map and entire picture will be much more clearer.
agree to the topic.
Mordor91 is right
Same... I agree about everything Mordor911 said.
To be honest, if there is no 6.9 map, many players would already leave this server. And i am sure those players who play 6.9 map, wouldn't switch to 7 if old map goes to history. Only a third of the current number of players would remain on server.

So let's enjoy both maps and keep the old one alive because of the majority who play it.

Just to add... After commands changed, Players got confused... I recived so many messages here and on my cellphone with one question "is 6.9 really dead ?!".
Thank you Adm1n and Sejtura for support. Sejtura agreed about how many players would remain on server, situation with custom games and other servers is not known to me, but half of players and above 60% of games will be vanished if this situation does not change. It is really shocking to overtake main dota command for the game creation from the majority of people where new map could have !pubn or !pub7.
Your Patreon supporters are Dota6.9 players cicibucna/zdrabranding , phaq , sejanus, all Patreon supporters are Dota6.9 players, only iErnesto94 is playing both maps.
Make it be like it was before and give a new separated league to Dota7 so we can all be happy again and equal.
These players count on this to change Arthas/ArthasTerenas , phaq , TooShade , Adm1n , Sejtura , Rob_Real , Caneee , Addict3d2net ,  Viperchoko, Noci , JODA , North_Legionare , zvonko , ebyy , Sejanus , epic90 , Corristo , alien1 , Never_give_Up , m3thead , fearspp , fabricamp3 , Simke , milosmiladinovic , ^Less_Apaches^ , cicibucna , m-packet , rL-Valter , kontra.danf , hypothalamus , Dark_Tauren , Ditya-Ra , sandro_max , phenomenalone , [happy]man , daniel123 , ebacha , ibraa10 , tzk , HI][MAN , silvan , manokerrr , melih06 , blakchole and many many many more...

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After 1 week since favoritism of Dota7, here are results for 1000 games played.

- Day7:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 150 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
15/30     Draws:  1/1
19/30                 0/1
23/30                 2/0
16/30                 2/2
18/30                 0/2

Draws: Dota6.9 = 5 draws and Dota7 = 6 draws
15+19+23+16+18 = 91/150 Dota6.9 games and 59/150 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 5 = 86 games
Dota7 - draw = 59 - 6 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:










- to1000:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 2 pages 40 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
07/12     Draws:  0/1
15/28                 2/3


Draws: Dota6.9 = 2 draws and Dota7 = 4 draws
07+15 = 22/40 Dota6.9 games and 18/40 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 22 - 2 = 20 games
Dota7 - draw = 18 - 4 = 14 games


Spoiler for Hiden:



For confused fellas who ask what is Dota7:


ALL GAMES CALCULATED IN THE LAST 7 DAYS SINCE DEFAULT MAP CHANGE
AND AFTER ADVANTAGE  HAS BEEN GIVEN TO MINORITY MAP Dota7
to1000 are taken games from day8 for total of 1000games played statistic.

- Day1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games

- Day2 part1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games
- Day2 part2:
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games

- Day3:
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games

- Day4:
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games

- Day5:
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games

- Day6:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games

- Day7:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 5 = 86 games
Dota7 - draw = 59 - 6 = 53 games

- to1000:
Dota6.9 - draw = 22 - 2 = 20 games
Dota7 - draw = 18 - 4 = 14 games

Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 = 84+58+40+76+83+82+84+86+20= 613 map6.9 games finished

Dota7 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 =
49+40+32+53+48+45+53+53+14= 387 map7.0 games finished


Total games played in last 7 days since default map change with 2 pages to get thousand games played = 613+387= 1000
For sure 5%-15% games are result of default dota7 map autopick on !pub command. 61% games at this moment are dota6.9 while real balance is for sure over 65% for dota6.9. Main question is without this help from !pub command does dota7 have over 30% of total games at all?

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- Day6:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 6 pages 153 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
19/30     Draws:  1/1
17/30                 1/2
18/30                 2/1
16/30                 1/1
20/30                 2/4
01/03                 0/0

Draws: Dota6.9 = 7 draws and Dota7 = 9 draws
19+17+18+16+20+1 = 91/153 Dota6.9 games and 62/153 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:











For confused fellas who ask what is Dota7:


ALL GAMES CALCULATED IN THE LAST 6 DAYS SINCE DEFAULT MAP CHANGE
AND AFTER ADVANTAGE  HAS BEEN GIVEN TO MINORITY MAP Dota7

- Day1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games

- Day2 part1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games
- Day2 part2:
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games

- Day3:
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games

- Day4:
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games

- Day5:
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games

- Day6:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games

Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6 = 84+58+40+76+83+82+84= 507 map6.9 games finished
Dota7    = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6 = 49+40+32+53+48+45+53= 320 map7.0 games finished


Total games played in last 6 days since default map change = 507+320= 827
For sure 5%-20% games are result of default dota7 map autopick on !pub command. 61% games at this moment are dota6.9 while real balance is for sure 64+% for dota6.9. Main question is without this help from !pub command does dota7 have over 30% of total games at all?

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Okay you triggered me to reply on this, on other server there is 6k players who play v7 and you and other 40 players who are uncapable to learn new staff and adjust to play old map, so at the end there is 6k players and lets say they play 3 games per day 18000 games  vs your 400 games.
Beat that.. How other people could adjust you can too, if you cant play that old v6 and stfu.
I stopped playing here because of an old map, but i want you to see overall how many people accepted and you and small majority make big deal about this, so ridiculous.
Who gives a fuck about other server? You do not play on this server, why are you posting useless comments? Leave this place to Dota1 players and Dota1 is Dota6.9 map.
Now take a hand of nikolagay, MarvinJunior and all others who does not play on this server and go play with other 6k players, in case they really exist.

Also why 6.9 should stay as official map and not the classic dota 6.73d?
Why not. Classic dota 6.73d can also be added if there is interested players. But first separate 2 leagues before making 3rd and make Dota 6.9 default again.
There are over 6000 Dota7 players and over 18000 games on some unknown server, why do people like nikolagay, MarvinJunior, grga_man and some others spam here if they have another server. Here games can't start in less than 5 minutes, on unknown server with 18000 Dota7 daily games it will start in few seconds.

Mate I'm kinda too lazy go into a discussion with you regarding this matter, it would take too long and I honestly don't want to waste too much of my brain cells on this.

A friendly advice - try and ask yourself why is this something you want to push through by all means. Why do you care so much about this? The way you handle this topic is kinda sus to me, I smell a lot of subjective bullshit.
Yes you are kinda bellow my intellectual level and honestly there is nothing smart you can say.
You are not playing on this server and what do I push?. Who cares what do you think if you are not player. This topic concerns Dota1 6.9 majority players base and minority of Dota7 players. Lobbying group pushed fake info about Dota7 map popularity and huge mistake and injustice is done here. Minority above the Majority, ridiculous.
Or you guys care so much because you play under hidden nicks and this fake acting with famous unknown 6000k Dota7 players is just ridiculous and fake as your statements are. You and your friends have nothing smart to say, you can spam, you can insult me, you can lie people, but all that are invalid arguments. My proofs about current situation are public and available for everyone and Happy.. explained very well why Dota7 is not so popular like Dota6.9 is, read carefully his comment bellow, he admited:

Actually, when the v7 came out, a couple of months ago, there was a poll between v7 and v6 that resulted in v7 winning, even though a bunch of you morons kept creating fake profiles and double voting for v6. For reasons unknown to me, the transition hasn't been made.

You guys from Lobbying group are so fake that you can compare to nowadays politicians who do not have even a single valid argument to deny even a single sentence I mentioned in this topic. With other words said, you people from Lobbying group for Dota7 are way bellow my intellectual level.

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Ban Requests / Ban request _portez
« on: December 10, 2020, 19:00 »
1: Your NickName?
mordor91
2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
portez_
_portez
_portez_
-portez-
3: What rule did he/they break?
ban avoiding / game ruining / AFK / insulting / votekick abuse
4: When was the Rule Broken?
Screenshots when he spam with whispers
Spoiler for Hiden:











5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
Few days ago he had 0 or 1 games on his account and new players are being kicked from my games, so he insulted me, pure harassing through whispers. Now this request today https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,198502.0.html
@Caneee  was yesterday with him in game. Check his games

6: Link of the game? (if applies)

_portez
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6342936
05-12-2020 22:48:38
14:04    _portez    [Allies]    mana
14:07       [All]    _portez has left the game voluntarily, _portez was autobanned.
14:07       [All]    Autoban is ON, if you leave you will get autobanned.


https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6343490
07-12-2020 20:50:40
25:34    _portez    [Allies]    !ff
25:39    _portez    [Allies]    -gg
31:59    _portez    [Allies]    pieec of shit
32:00    _portez    [Allies]    afk
38:38    justangel    [Allies]    !votekick port
38:38       [All]    [justangel] voted to kick [_portez] [1/7]
38:50    GSi1.8    [Allies]    DEF
38:53    _portez    [Allies]    y 7ef
38:55    GSi1.8    [Allies]    !yes
38:55       [All]    [GSi1.8] voted to kick [_portez] [2/8]
38:56    _portez    [Allies]    u can win
38:59    GSi1.8    [Allies]    some1 report him please
39:09    _portez    [Allies]    har7 7ef
39:10    _portez    [Allies]    u can win
40:39    justangel    [Allies]    play
40:40    justangel    [Allies]    tard
40:48    _portez    [Allies]    lick my ass first, noob
42:03    GSi1.8    [Allies]    -kickafk 3
42:04       [All]    _portez has left the game voluntarily, _portez was autobanned.
42:04       [All]    Autoban is ON, if you leave you will get autobanned.


portez_
08-12-2020 12:37:47  - first game played, total games 6


_portez_    only 1 game feed and leave
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6343976
09-12-2020 17:03:01
01:33    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    cause i play in stacked games
01:41    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    maybe for you
01:45    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    bake a new acc :)
01:46    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    enjoy
02:18    _portez_    [Allies]    y, for me very hard life
02:52    _portez_    [Allies]    feed and i quit
03:02    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    quit now pls
03:06    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    i cant read your shit
03:07    _portez_    [Allies]    later
05:13    _portez_    [Allies]    like i said, semi nab
05:18    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    !ignore port
16:00    _portez_    [Allies]    tetris team
16:03    _portez_    [Allies]    total no team game
17:09       [All]    [H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T]Assasino_fixo killed _portez_
17:15    _portez_    [Allies]    ok enough
17:18    _portez_    [Allies]    total noob team
17:22       [All]    _portez_ has left the game voluntarily, _portez_ was autobanned.
17:22       [All]    Autoban is ON, if you leave you will get autobanned.
17:29    yukiro    [Allies]    ccc
17:32    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    xD
17:45    H.E.A.D.S.H.O.T    [Allies]    we lost
17:51    yukiro    [Allies]    oifc
17:54    yukiro    [Allies]    when that put on team
17:57    yukiro    [Allies]    and they go mid


-portez-   only 1 game
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6343994
09-12-2020 17:50:10
31:24    -portez-    [Allies]    go ff omg
31:40    Caneee    [Allies]    >> -portez- (Zeus) has a > Lightning Bolt [4]
31:50    -portez-    [Allies]    i dont care man
31:53    -portez-    [Allies]    its waste of time
32:00       [All]    [Pi4]Pi4 killed Caneee
32:16    Caneee    [Allies]    u dont care?
32:17    Caneee    [Allies]    really?

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Games played today:
DotaMap = DotaMapGames - draw = total games
Dota6.9 = 16 - 1 = 15
Dota7   =  7  -  2 = 05


150 accounts involved playing Dota6.9 and 50 accounts involved playing Dota7.

Imagine running a Dota 1 community during the time when three different Warcraft patches are active, still caring enough to try and make the best choices and compromises for the sake of community, and ending up with these kind of topics on an almost weekly basis and people asking you: "Why do you run this server man?" The fuck is wrong with some of you guys...

Anyway, TL:DR, the point is, the whining was the same when 6.85 was out, as well as when 6.89 was out, and here we go again on 7.00. Perhaps the best thing some of you guys can do is switch to GameRanger, those peeps choose not to evolve and keep playing 6.83, sounds like a fucking dream for some of you guys.

I don't even play 7.00 and even I agree that it's better to switch to it, simply cause things have to progress in order for improvement to happen. Or I guess you can do what Bnet peeps are doing, and play versions like Dota 6.85k NE15 v6. The perks of patching up a single Dota version are real...
Your post has no point and is not related to this subject since you are not dota player anymore and this topic is about dota players and dota game, and the question is for you, why do you care to post about this if you are not a player? If you want Dota7.00 go and play it or watch it or use GameRanger to play it, but do not make an illusion and do not talk about default map with minority of players and games should be improvement and progress just because its newer. You and GameRanger are made for eachother. Newer does not mean more quality or better experience nor in this case is more popular. Let the things to be back to as before where Dota6.9 is default and then talk about progress. Here we do not have equality, 423 vs 267 games is small difference for only 5 days, isn't it?
Now go and switch to GameRanger and enjoy your Dota 6.85k NE15 v6. Good luck.

And what does it mean this 423 vs 267? It means 10 accounts in each game to start and to finish the game, from 10 accounts in each game 5 accounts will get +PSR and 5 accounts will get -PSR, 4230 Dota6.9 accounts vs 2670 Dota7 accounts. This is very huge difference in popularity. And from 2670 accounts involved more than 500 are undecided players or better to say they prefer Dota6.7 but play Dota7 because it happens mistake with !pub command or they do not know how to host Dota6.9.
In one room can be 4230 chocolates and free and in another 2670 and free, all chocolates are the same. Which room is better to pick? 10 people will eat 4230 chocolates entire year and 5 people will eat 2670 chocolates half of the year. Logic is more than simple.

This topic is about active Dota6.9 map and wild buggy misscalled dota map Dota7, and players.
Please stick to the topic. 10 or more posts are not related with topic.

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For confused fellas who ask what is Dota7:


ALL GAMES CALCULATED IN THE LAST 5 DAYS SINCE DEFAULT MAP CHANGE
AND AFTER ADVANTAGE  HAS BEEN GIVEN TO MINORITY MAP Dota7

- Day1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games

- Day2 part1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games
- Day2 part2:
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games

- Day3:
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games

- Day4:
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games

- Day5:
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games

Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5 = 84+58+40+76+83+82= 423 map6.9 games finished
Dota7    = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5 = 49+40+32+53+48+45= 267 map7.0 games finished


Total games played in last 5 days since default map change = 423+267= 690
For sure 5%-20% games are result of default dota7 map autopick on !pub command. 61% games at this moment are dota6.9 while real balance is for sure 64+% for dota6.9. Main question is without this help from !pub command does dota7 have over 30% of total games at all?

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You say that remembering to put l in a command is too hard but argue to split the bots into two channels which is 200% more confusing and will completely divide the player base on their own isolated islands.

l or c, who cares really, if I didn't write what it means nobody would even know, it is irrelavant, a single letter. 6.9 is a legacy map for the simple fact that it will not receive a single patch or update ever again as claimed by the creator. So it will eventually become just like Icefrog Dota.

!lobbies command can be improved to show which DotA is used for the game, this way you don't need to enter the game to find out.
why do you run this server man?
for fun for gain whatever the reason but you have to give the players what they want or they will just fuck off...do it the right way.

and why the old map wont receive any update ??????
did you try to fix tuskar bug?
why you didnt add the new items on 6.90

instead of changing the whole 6.90 you could add and fix...and you should know that upgrades is not forever on ....you may improve the base.!.but.!.at some point when you reach perfection upgrade should stop ...means any change or add will make it worse.

here is what i want as a player in this server:

1-fix tuskar bug in 6.90

2-add the new items from v7 to v6.90 without changing anything of map features

and you are right add l or fuck to commands is nothing but you guys want to force the new map on players ...and we all knew that since the first appearance of the new map
@Arthas this is it, Dracol1ch is map creator and not cen. No more updates. We are all used to what 6.9 map already offer to us.
Cen can separate dota6.9 and dota7 as 2 leagues with 2 ladders and 2 channels or Dota6.9 can be default again with !pub command.
Thank you for support. Call people who play with you to join this topic with their oppinions. The same guys, lobbying group convinced administration to push this change so they can take a part of dota6.9 players and they got it. Minority of Dota7 map is above the Majority of Dota6.9 map. This can happen only on dota.eurobattle.net.

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You say that remembering to put l in a command is too hard but argue to split the bots into two channels which is 200% more confusing and will completely divide the player base on their own isolated islands.
No, you completely misunderstood my point. Player base was already split with decision to put Dota7 as 2nd official dota and since then we have:
1. majority of Dota6.9 players who play mostly or only 6.9 map,
2. obviously small amount of people who play mostly or only Dota7, and
3. people who play both maps, again huge percent here is for Dota1 6.9 map.
Now why commands !pub and !publ are problem now, it is very simple logic: Lobbying group of few individuals made wrong picture about current situation and percent of players who play Dota7 and since this forum is used in most situations to ask for unban or ban, it is logical on some poll to not be much interests from regular Dota6.9 players who does not read much around. And so lobbying group, or few groups or few individuals wanted to make ideal environment and they presented fake picture.
None really care if it is publ or pubc or pubd or whatsoever, Default map is now Dota7 and side map is Dota6.9, every time someone wants to host Dota6.9 he has chance to have unintentionally created Dota7 instead which in the long run will make 5-25% of undecided players to use default map because it is default. I have valid solution on mind for this and votekick command gave me awesome idea where all sides will be happy:
Quote
13:39    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    !votekick sir
13:39       [All]    [Sir.Gawain] voted to kick [Sir.Gawain] [1/7]
13:39       [All]    RULE: !votekick command may only be used against game ruiners (intentional feed, obstructing gameplay..). Vote accordingly.
13:39       [All]    Type !yes to vote.
When a player whisp to bot  /w la-dota !pub name , bellow that could go info about how to host Dota6.9 with /w la-dota !pubc name and /w la-dota !pubn , so player can pick which map he will host and not to be host default Dota7 map on just !pub name.

Quote
/w la-dota !pub name
You whisper to la-dota: !pub name

la-dota whispers: To host Dota6.9 map use /w la-dota !pubc name | To host Dota7.0 map use /w la-dota !pubn name
To repeat again, favoritism of Dota7 without reason is damaging Dota6.9 in the long run, and Dota6.9 need equality, the same treatment as Dota7 have, majority of players who play Dota6.9 deserve that. Now why same treatment with majority of players, this is Dota6.9 place and Dota6.9 must be official default map.
W3 channel can provide info about 2 channels for 2 dota games. And each channel info about game they play, Custom maps are supposed to have expected channel and bot name to makes all of this easy.

2 best players on ladder and on server for 2020 are Dota6.9 focused players Rob_Real and TooShade, and they were both untouchable for months until it was not really possible to progress anymore. Dota7 lobbying groups have their own clans to get higher on ladder and in different game, one more reason why 2 games need to be separated.
Ladder database https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/stats/ is overloaded. Loading page time takes often longer than 10 seconds. Can it be created that database as read_only(archived total games played) and 2 new databases, one for Dota6.9 and second for Dota7, on the first place to speed up, and on 2nd since we have 2 different games, not maps - GAMES. This will bring more challenging ladder for both leagues, ability to dominate in one or to try best to be the best in 2 leagues. I am sure cloning database and bot can bring us this very challenging fight to be in top.

l or c, who cares really, if I didn't write what it means nobody would even know, it is irrelavant, a single letter. 6.9 is a legacy map for the simple fact that it will not receive a single patch or update ever again as claimed by the creator. So it will eventually become just like Icefrog Dota.
You are Slovenian and you speak your language. If in your city is 20% Italians it doesn't mean you must to speak Italian as your primary language, right? Same case here. None care about new patches and updates, majority of people play it because 6.9 map is better than all previous maps. IceFrog dota compared to Dota6.9 is like comparing neanderthal who have his spear as weapon and alien who have laser weapon, but there are similarities between these maps while Dota7 is wild map, no connections with Dota6.9 nor IceFrog maps, dota2 maybe?.

Actually, when the v7 came out, a couple of months ago, there was a poll between v7 and v6 that resulted in v7 winning, even though a bunch of you morons kept creating fake profiles and double voting for v6. For reasons unknown to me, the transition hasn't been made.

Because of that, the majority of remotely decent players have left this platform which created an illusion that only '35%' of people here are playing v7.
Buggy non-dota map is not so attractive to Dota1 6.9 players, maybe to LOL and HON players..
Fake story about majority of decent players is bullshit. We all know who they are now, famous players for game ruining, mid or feed, failing mid and insulting and raging all game long at others for self-incompetence, rage quit. Luckily not many players like that are left in Dota6.9 so its much more comfortable to play. My best guess is they all went to Dota7.


The most shocking info is since last night Dota7 had 19 games remakes, while Dota6.9 had only 5. Dota7 lobbying group took me seriously so they had to hard try to make some balance in total games  ;)


- Day4:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 152 games. Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
18/30     Draws: 1/0
20/30                 2/1
17/30                 1/3
17/30                 0/7
16/30                 1/5
0/2            - already calculated 2 draws for Dota7 as removed from total of 4 games, so 2 games for Dota7

Draws: Excluding 2 from the last page, Dota6.9 = 5 and Dota7 = 16 draws
18+20+17+17+16+0= 88/152 Dota6.9 games and 64/152 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games


Spoiler for Hiden:











55
Last update with giving !pub to dota7 is done in favor for about 1/3 of community population. Dota6.9 map has over 65% games and Dota7 map less than 35%. Lagabuse favoritism to Dota7 is giving advantage and making it harder for Dota6.9 when creating the game. Example is making game remake and missing to use huge L so it is hosted Dota7 which mean Host need to unhost and create the game again while losing players. Dota6.9 and Dota7 is not the same game, Dota7 is like Dota2, while Dota6.9 is classic dota1 game and the only same thing used in both are heroes and building names, neutrals names, skills names and similar stuff.

Few ideas to solve this for next/new season:
1. Separate completely Dota6.9 and Dota7 - separate Ladder, let bot to calculate stats in one database for Dota6.9 and in second for Dota2
2. Like it is done with custom maps, make for Dota6.9 and Dota2 separated channels and separated league.
In past it was PD.eu , then Lagabuse.com and now is la-dota, make lagabuse.com or just /w lagabuse for 1 game and la-dota for another. Custom games can have /w custom or /w customgame.
Legacy is usually used for low movies and tv shows, bad new games/remaster and similar. Dota6.9 is not a bad game and 6.9 is the best dota1 version ever created so far and it is offensive for game to get down to the list while its better and favored by majority of players. Administration took too seriously activities from trash talkers about how Dota7 is more popular with which statistics definitely will not agree with.
We are all equal as players, if all above is not possible then give to Dota6.9 !pubc (classic) or !pubo (old) and to Dota7 !pubn (new) or !pub7.
When using !lobbies command or when entering to check all games it is always 3-4 Dota1 6.9map and 1-max2 Dota7 7.0map. Dota 7 have more games only in late night/early morning period after 02h. Entire day is reserved for majority of Dota1 6.9 map players.

Now Statistics, it is important to mention how many players do not know how to host and this switch and unfair favoritism bring only confusion to players and most from that group like more classic dota1 6.9 map.

Each day ends in early morning when last games are played.

- Before !pub switch, screenshots not taken:
Dota6.9 games played just before switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 150 games:
18/30
19/30
17/30
17/30
25/30

18+19+17+17+28 = 96/150 Dota1 games and 54/150 Dota7 games


- Day1:

Dota6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 150 games. Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
21/30     Draws:  3/1
18/30                 1/1
19/30                 3/2
18/30                 1/2
19/30                 3/0

Draws: Dota6.9 = 11 draws and Dota7 = 6 draws
21+18+19+18+19 = 95/150 Dota6.9 games and 55/150 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games














- Day2 part1:

Dota6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 4 pages 120 games. Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
13/26     Draws:  1/3
18/30                 4/6
17/30                 0/2
19/30                 4/2

Draws: Dota6.9 = 9 draws and Dota7 = 13 draws
13+18+17+19= 67/120 Dota6.9 games and 53/120 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games


Spoiler for Hiden:









- Day2 part2:

Dota6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 3 pages 77 games. Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
10/17     Draws:  1/0
16/30                 0/3
16/30                 1/0

Draws: Dota6.9 = 2 draws and Dota7 = 3 draws
10+16+16=42/77 Dota6.9 games and 35/77 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games


Spoiler for Hiden:







- Day3:

Dota6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 140 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
18/30     Draws: 0/1
17/30                 1/1
19/30                 1/1
14/30                 0/2
11/20                 1/3

Draws: Dota6.9 = 3 draws and Dota7 = 8 draws
18+17+19+14+11 = 79/140 Dota6.9 games and 61/140 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:










- Day4:

Dota6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 152 games. Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
18/30     Draws: 1/0
20/30                 2/1
17/30                 1/3
17/30                 0/7
16/30                 1/5
0/2            - already calculated 2 draws for Dota7 as removed from total of 4 games, so 2 games for Dota7

Draws: Excluding 2 from the last page, Dota6.9 = 5 and Dota7 = 16 draws
18+20+17+17+16+0= 88/152 Dota6.9 games and 64/152 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games


Spoiler for Hiden:












- Day5:

Dota6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 146 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
19/30     Draws:  2/1
18/30                 0/2
18/30                 1/1
17/30                 4/3
18/26                 1/2

Draws: Dota6.9 = 8 draws and Dota7 = 9 draws
19+18+18+17+18 = 90/146 Dota6.9 games and 56/146 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games


Spoiler for Hiden:










- Day6:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 6 pages 153 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
19/30     Draws:  1/1
17/30                 1/2
18/30                 2/1
16/30                 1/1
20/30                 2/4
01/03                 0/0

Draws: Dota6.9 = x draws and Dota7 = x draws
19+17+18+16+20+1 = 91/153 Dota6.9 games and 62/153 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:












- Day7:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 150 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
15/30     Draws:  1/1
19/30                 0/1
23/30                 2/0
16/30                 2/2
18/30                 0/2

Draws: Dota6.9 = 5 draws and Dota7 = 6 draws
15+19+23+16+18 = 91/150 Dota6.9 games and 59/150 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 5 = 86 games
Dota7 - draw = 59 - 6 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:










- to1000:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 2 pages 40 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
07/12     Draws:  0/1
15/28                 2/3


Draws: Dota6.9 = 2 draws and Dota7 = 4 draws
07+15 = 22/40 Dota6.9 games and 18/40 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 22 - 2 = 20 games
Dota7 - draw = 18 - 4 = 14 games


Spoiler for Hiden:



For confused fellas who ask what is Dota7:


ALL GAMES CALCULATED IN THE LAST 7 DAYS SINCE DEFAULT MAP CHANGE
AND AFTER ADVANTAGE  HAS BEEN GIVEN TO MINORITY MAP Dota7
to1000 are taken games from day8 for total of 1000games played statistic.

- Day1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games

- Day2 part1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games
- Day2 part2:
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games

- Day3:
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games

- Day4:
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games

- Day5:
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games

- Day6:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games

- Day7:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 5 = 86 games
Dota7 - draw = 59 - 6 = 53 games

- to1000:
Dota6.9 - draw = 22 - 2 = 20 games
Dota7 - draw = 18 - 4 = 14 games

Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 = 84+58+40+76+83+82+84+86+20= 613 map6.9 games finished

Dota7 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 =
49+40+32+53+48+45+53+53+14= 387 map7.0 games finished


Total games played in last 7 days since default map change with 2 pages to get thousand games played = 613+387= 1000
For sure 5%-15% games are result of default dota7 map autopick on !pub command. 61% games at this moment are dota6.9 while real balance is for sure over 65% for dota6.9. Main question is without this help from !pub command does dota7 have over 30% of total games at all?

56
Ban Requests / Ban Sir.Gawain and _joda_
« on: December 08, 2020, 02:19 »
1: Your NickName?
mordor91
2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
sir.gawain
_joda_
3: What rule did he/they break?
sir.gawain - game ruining sabotaging team

_joda_ -  votekick abuse accomplice in a crime

4: When was the Rule Broken?
00:04    _JODA_    [Allies]    !muteall
00:04       [All]    Global chat muted (allied and private chat is unaffected).
24:33    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    25 ff
24:41    mordor91    [Allies]    maybe we can win
24:44    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    >> Sir.Gawain (Phoenix) has a > Observer Wards
24:44    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    >> Sir.Gawain (Phoenix) has a > Observer Wards
24:47    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    you can use thise
24:49    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    you know?
24:57    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    useless
24:58    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    there
24:58    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    i used
24:59    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    OUR WOODS
25:00    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    WE NEED
25:03    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    WHERE WILL U FARM
25:04    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    here?
25:05    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> I want to buy > Observer Ward - 65
25:05    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> I want to buy > Observer Ward - 65
25:05    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> I want to buy > Observer Ward - 65
25:06    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> I want to buy > Observer Ward - 65
25:18    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    u can buy and put what u want
25:21    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    retard
25:27    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    look where they warded
25:28    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    nab
25:58    _JODA_    [Allies]    ?
26:00    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    is it k ?
26:06    mordor91    [Allies]    why this man
26:12    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    ward
26:19    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    i cannot farm!!!
26:34    _JODA_    [Allies]    wy u place wardfs here?
26:37    mordor91    [Allies]    he will get ban for that
26:42    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    !ff
27:28    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    come all
27:30    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    lets kill them
27:34    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    dont be scared
27:58    mordor91    [Allies]    sir you are fucking shit
28:04    mordor91    [Allies]    i have shit game ruiners
28:12    mordor91    [Allies]    fucking shit
29:07    mordor91    [Allies]    3 observers and 3 sentry...
29:12    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    !ff
29:24    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    look
29:25    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    ward
29:37    mordor91    [Allies]    he wants ban
29:57    mordor91    [Allies]    that fucking piece of shit
30:30    mordor91    [Allies]    unmute
31:05    mordor91    [Allies]    !votekick sir
31:05       [All]    [mordor91] voted to kick [Sir.Gawain] [1/7]
32:04       [All]    A votekick against player [Sir.Gawain] has expired.
32:20    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    !votekick sir
32:20       [All]    [Sir.Gawain] voted to kick [Sir.Gawain] [1/7]
32:23    mordor91    [Allies]    !yes
32:23       [All]    [mordor91] voted to kick [Sir.Gawain] [2/8]
32:33       [All]    [mordor91]never_give_up killed Sir.Gawain
33:04    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    !ff
34:23       [All]    [mordor91]_SAGA_ killed mordor91
34:35    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    hahahahah
34:50    mordor91    [Allies]    just smile fucking piece of shit
35:03    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    hahahahahaha
35:34    mordor91    [Allies]    add1cted2n3t you are moderator?
35:42    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    y
38:02    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    do not touch my wards :D
38:17    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> mordor91 (Ancient Apparition) has a > Observer Wards
38:17    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> mordor91 (Ancient Apparition) has a > Observer Wards
38:17    Sir.Gawain    [Allies]    >> mordor91 (Ancient Apparition) has a > Observer Wards
38:23    mordor91    [Allies]    -mute 2
41:53    Add1cted2n3t    [Allies]    !f
41:57    mordor91    [Allies]    !f

5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
This is shame. Sir.Gawain gave up from the game and he wasted 3000-4000 gold on observers and sentries and placed them in our base or near base and he was doing that from 23-24 until we finally lost. Our team had chances, Sir.Gawain reduced our vision so he is responsible for over 20 deaths of our team. That was not enough and he bought Tome of experience 2 or 3 times after that. And he was wasting his hero skills around the map, did his best to lose the game.
For _JODA_, he saw what Phoenix did. I tried to votekick Sir.Gawain but _JODA_ refused to unmute and to give us a chance to communicate with other team about problem in our team, and this is accomplice in a crime and refusing to votekick.
The saddest part is if Phoenix wanted to help us we was stronger and with Magina in team we could win easily.
7. Player must not ruin the game by:
      f) Refusing to Votekick a player who is ruining the game (intentional mass feeding/sabotaging team mates or the game, see also point 8 for valid votekick scenarios) may lead to a ban.

@Addict3d2net  can confirm everything. And please give not less ban than a week to Sir.Gawain.

6: Link of the game? (if applies)
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6343607

57
Ban Requests / Ban game ruining
« on: December 07, 2020, 21:16 »
1: Your NickName?
mordor91
2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
Dark_Tauren
hariboo
Grunt_machine
3: What rule did he/they break?

Dark_Tauren - game ruining feeding on purpose and refusing to play in late game, refusing to defend base and moving at fountain

hariboo - game ruining refusing to play in late game, refusing to defend base and moving at fountain, he used ulti on axe

Grunt_machine - game ruining refusing to play last 10 minutes, refusing to defend base and moving at fountain

4: When was the Rule Broken?
20:25       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]dota.username killed Dark_Tauren
21:23       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed Dark_Tauren
21:28    GrantWard    [Allies]    lmfao
21:29    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    i wanna die mkore
21:31    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    more
21:40    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    like that holy shit
21:40    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    !votekick dark
21:40       [All]    [Grunt_machine] voted to kick [Dark_Tauren] [1/7]
22:54       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed Dark_Tauren
22:59    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    >> mordor91 (Nerubian Assassin) has a > Mana Burn [3]
22:59    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    >> mordor91 (Nerubian Assassin) has a > Mana Burn [3]
22:59    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    >> mordor91 (Nerubian Assassin) has a > Mana Burn [3]
23:03       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed hariboo
23:05    hariboo    [Allies]    -gg
23:06       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed mordor91
23:08    hariboo    [Allies]    feeder axe
23:12    hariboo    [Allies]    trash
23:17    mordor91    [Allies]    axe why feed man
23:17    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    yes
23:45    mordor91    [Allies]    you could move back to avoid ursa

23:58    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    look this shit
24:01    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    dazz
24:04    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    what are you doıng bro
24:05    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    need
24:07    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    grave team
24:37    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    !votekick grunt
24:37       [All]    [DoffyVSLuffyy] voted to kick [Grunt_machine] [1/7]
24:39    mordor91    [Allies]    !yes
25:16    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    its
25:18    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    dazzle
25:19    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    fail
25:25    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    ej animal no tim
25:26    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    -gg
25:31    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    ffeed ursaaaa

25:33    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    we win omg
25:34    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    axe
25:35    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    dagger

25:38    hariboo    [Allies]    go gg
25:40    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    -gg
27:55    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    dazzle

27:56    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    pls
27:59    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    we win
28:00    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    ply

28:13    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    i am base

28:50    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    abi
28:50    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    siz
28:53    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    neden dota oynuyorusunz
28:54       [All]    [MevzuDerin-].Optimusprime destroyed the mid Sentinel melee rax
28:57    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    yarra kafalı felanmısınız
28:59    mordor91    [Allies]    -afk
29:00    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    burda
29:02    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    duracaksanız
29:09    mordor91    [Allies]    -afk
29:16    hariboo    [Allies]    sacmalamadin su an
29:19    hariboo    [Allies]    resmen sacmaladin :D
29:24    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    yoo gercekten
29:24       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard destroyed the bottom level 3 Sentinel tower
29:25    hariboo    [Allies]    ursanın ustune bakmadin galiba
29:27    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    yarrak kafalısınız
29:30    mordor91    [Allies]    -afk
29:32    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    ursanını üstünü sikim
29:34       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]The Scourge destroyed the bottom Sentinel melee rax
29:34       [All]    [MevzuDerin-].Optimusprime destroyed the bottom Sentinel ranged rax
29:36    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    axe bir bm ye gider
29:40    hariboo    [Allies]    axe mal aq
29:41    DoffyVSLuffyy    [Allies]    di
29:44    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    !ff
29:44       [All]    [Dark_Tauren] voted to forfeit [1/5 Sentinel]
29:45    hariboo    [Allies]    izlemiyonmu
29:52       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed mordor91
29:58    mordor91    [Allies]    -afk
30:03    hariboo    [Allies]    xe jump
30:15    Dark_Tauren    [Allies]    i did
30:17    hariboo    [Allies]    axeee
30:20       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed Grunt_machine

30:28    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    steel play??
30:29       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard destroyed the top level 3 Sentinel tower
30:30    Grunt_machine    [Allies]    go ff
30:36       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]The Scourge destroyed the top Sentinel melee rax
30:37    hariboo    [Allies]    !ff
30:37       [All]    [hariboo] voted to forfeit [2/5 Sentinel]
30:40       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]dota.username destroyed the top Sentinel ranged rax
30:40    mordor91    [Allies]    no ff
30:41    hariboo    [Allies]    adam atlamiyor bile artik aq
30:43    hariboo    [Allies]    o derece mal
30:49       [All]    [MevzuDerin-]GrantWard killed DoffyVSLuffyy
30:57    mordor91    [Allies]    -afk
5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
In late game only Luna and me tried to do something in game, we did our best to defend base but other 3 players had something else on their mind.
Dark_Tauren(Axe) - for only to him known reason he teleported at tower where 4 or 5 opponents attacked tower and from chat and from his movements he died on purpose. Just after his respawn he died again while he could move back to safe zone, again died on purpose. No effort from him to win the game in late game.
hariboo - no effort to do something in game since start. When I got level6 I moved down to help them to kill Panda and hariboo(Naix) was supposed to move back to our creeps so Panda could go out from tower range, Grunt_machine(Dazzle) was with us and he moved little back, but naix literally decided to farm almost in range of Scourge lvl1 down tower and it was not possible to make kill, and all the time after time there was no interest from Naix to be useful in game, he was farming almost all the time, missing almost all important team fights and in late game he refused to defend base and was afk for more than 5 minutes, getting exp to reset timer from time to time, chatting something on Turkish with others and doing nothing.
Grunt_machine(Dazzle) - he was not helping us, never used grave to save us, only saving him. In last 10-15 minutes Dazzle went out to farm woods while Scourge team was slowly destroying towers and later rax. Once he decided to return, or he was killed he was afk for more much more than 3 minutes and almost all his time he spent at fountain.
6: Link of the game? (if applies)
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6343479

58
Offtopic / Re: IPTV
« on: December 01, 2020, 20:09 »
For Android try Orion TV. https://oriontv.rs/

59
Ban Requests / Ban _joda_
« on: November 30, 2020, 00:43 »
1: Your NickName?
mordor91
2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
_joda_
3: What rule did he/they break?
game ruining refusing to play with team and to push towers
4: When was the Rule Broken?
06:16    -thelegend-    [Allies]    let him free
06:17    -thelegend-    [Allies]    idiot
06:18    -thelegend-    [Allies]    axe
06:20    mordor91    [Allies]    ok im down / moment when Axe chased Crix to get his farm in woods
06:37    mordor91    [Allies]    wisp go down?

16:15       [All]    [mordor91]covid-19 killed mordor91
16:19       [All]    [mordor91]-thelegend- killed covid-19
16:23    mordor91    [Allies]    faster guys
16:26    covid-19    [Allies]    >> -thelegend- (Crixalis) has a > Blink Dagger
16:31    _JODA_    [Allies]    -muteall
16:33       [All]    [mordor91]Jasambog destroyed the top level 1 Scourge tower
16:34    _JODA_    [Allies]    -mute all

44:42    mordor91    [Allies]    go
44:51       [All]    [mordor91]covid-19 killed Jasambog
45:05    Jasambog    [Allies]    !VOTEKICK JODA
45:05       [All]    [Jasambog] voted to kick [_JODA_] [1/7]
45:05       [All]    Type !yes to vote.
45:08    Jasambog    [All]    KICK
45:09    Jasambog    [All]    aXE
45:12    Jasambog    [All]    rETARD
46:04    x0x0x    [Allies]    retard
46:05    x0x0x    [Allies]    axe

49:35       [All]    [mordor91]Carmelo89 killed mordor91
49:43       [All]    [mordor91]_JODA_ killed Carmelo89
49:44    mordor91    [All]    can we kick axe

49:48    covid-19    [All]    can we kick riki?
49:52    mordor91    [All]    he is refusing to play with us
50:06    Jasambog    [Allies]    PUSH
50:06    Jasambog    [Allies]    NOW
50:08    Jasambog    [Allies]    RETARDS
50:37    mordor91    [Allies]    !votekick joda
50:37       [All]    [mordor91] voted to kick [_JODA_] [1/7]
50:37       [All]    Type !yes to vote.
50:41    mordor91    [All]    go kick him please
50:42    Jasambog    [Allies]    !yes
50:42       [All]    [Jasambog] voted to kick [_JODA_] [2/8]
50:48    x0x0x    [Allies]    !yes
50:48       [All]    [x0x0x] voted to kick [_JODA_] [3/8]
58:05    x0x0x    [Allies]    ma axe je retard
58:07       [All]    [mordor91]NewDimension destroyed the mid Sentinel ranged rax
58:07    x0x0x    [Allies]    sjebo 100x
58:14    x0x0x    [Allies]    mogli smo zavrsiti raniej 10x / we could finish the game 10 times faster

58:36    mordor91    [Allies]    b
58:39    Jasambog    [Allies]    ff
58:40    mordor91    [Allies]    def base
58:40    Jasambog    [Allies]    no
58:40    Jasambog    [Allies]    b
58:44    -thelegend-    [Allies]    b
58:44    forteps_ai    [Allies]    b
58:48    x0x0x    [Allies]    gle ga / see him vs 5
58:52       [All]    [mordor91]forteps_ai killed _JODA_
58:55    x0x0x    [Allies]    !votekick jod
58:55       [All]    [x0x0x] voted to kick [_JODA_] [1/7]
58:56    Jasambog    [Allies]    !votekick joda
58:56    -thelegend-    [Allies]    idiot
58:57    Jasambog    [Allies]    !yes
58:57       [All]    [Jasambog] voted to kick [_JODA_] [2/8]
59:00    x0x0x    [All]    !f
59:02    mordor91    [Allies]    !yes
59:02       [All]    [mordor91] voted to kick [_JODA_] [3/8]
59:05    -thelegend-    [Allies]    !yes
59:05       [All]    [-thelegend-] voted to kick [_JODA_] [4/8]
59:09    Jasambog    [All]    KicK
59:11    Jasambog    [All]    fucking noob
60:05    x0x0x    [Allies]    retardered axe
60:07       [All]    [mordor91]Carmelo89 destroyed the bottom Sentinel melee rax
60:08    x0x0x    [Allies]    stuepd scumbag
60:09    covid-19    [All]    TOLD U ABOUT JODA AT START :D:D
60:11    forteps_ai    [All]    oink oink
60:11    cokiyioldu    [All]    trash
60:17    Jasambog    [All]    joda
60:19    Jasambog    [All]    total retard
60:23    covid-19    [All]    reko sam ti bro
60:28    cokiyioldu    [All]    hee is bulgar
60:49    Jasambog    [All]    zbog njega smo lose
5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
At start Joda/Axe was solo down versus Bristle. Crix was farming our woods and for unknown reason Axe left his line to sabotage Crix farming. Down side is empty and tower is slowly dying. In 16 Axe ignored entire team, it was ok for some time. Later in the game our teammates complained about Axe and wanted to kick him from the game, and in 50 minute 3 or 4 of us pushed middle line, 4 from Scourge players died, 1 revived and Axe was just moving near doing nothing for 2 minutes, we almost killed tower and instead to push 4 of us versus 2, Axe did nothing, we died while trying. Later we killed all or almost all of them and it was crucial for the game to push and to make mega creeps, Axe only ignored to push, he was farming around woods, giving zero fuck to win the game. After that Scourge players get better and they slowly get advantage, Axe was going to feed alone versus 4-5 of them and when we are near we never knew what to expect from him, and so it was not possible to win the game. My Tuskar got fast level25 and with tanky items our team was much stronger in team fights even 4 versus 5, all we needed to finish the game, to win earlier was Axe player and he was like he did not want to win the game at all. If he wanted to get item faster, destroying towers and rax in base was the best option for him and for team. He deserve ban for that, we lost because of him.
6: Link of the game? (if applies)
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6341350

60
Ban Requests / Ban sacoor
« on: November 23, 2020, 05:55 »
1: Your NickName?
mordor91
2: NickName of the player that you want to be banned?
sacoor
3: What rule did he/they break?
game ruining refusing to play
4: When was the Rule Broken?
41:18    sacoor    [Allies]    go creeping more
41:29    sacoor    [Allies]    !ff
41:29       [All]    [sacoor] voted to forfeit [1/5 Sentinel]
41:32    iErnesto94    [Allies]    tooshade spec
41:32       [All]    [TooShade]iErnesto94 destroyed the mid level 2 Sentinel tower
41:34    iErnesto94    [Allies]    ofc we can win
41:35    TooShade    [Allies]    !votekick oor
41:35       [All]    [TooShade] voted to kick [sacoor] [1/7]
41:35    Dark3r    [Allies]    where i go
41:35    sacoor    [Allies]    -gg
41:41    sacoor    [Allies]    gg idiots
41:45    Tzk6    [Allies]    stfu
41:47       [All]    [TooShade]Aster destroyed the mid level 3 Sentinel tower
41:47    mordor91    [Allies]    def
41:48    Tzk6    [Allies]    useless piece of shit
41:48    TooShade    [All]    kick
41:50    Tzk6    [Allies]    i let you farm
41:50    TooShade    [All]    he refused def
41:51    Tzk6    [Allies]    and this
41:51    TooShade    [All]    weaver
41:56    Dark3r    [Allies]    !yes
41:56       [All]    [Dark3r] voted to kick [sacoor] [2/8]
41:56    Tzk6    [Allies]    its my fault like
41:58    Tzk6    [Allies]    tusk told
41:58       [All]    [TooShade]dota.usernamee destroyed the mid Sentinel ranged rax
41:58    iErnesto94    [All]    was gg anyway
41:59    dota.usernamee    [Allies]    !yes
41:59       [All]    [dota.usernamee] voted to kick [sacoor] [3/8]
41:59    TooShade    [All]    all !yes
41:59    mordor91    [Allies]    teleport
42:00    TooShade    [All]    pls
42:03    mordor91    [Allies]    !yes
42:03       [All]    [mordor91] voted to kick [sacoor] [4/8]
42:03    Tzk6    [Allies]    !yes
42:03       [All]    [Tzk6] voted to kick [sacoor] [5/8]
42:07    Dark3r    [Allies]    justr def
42:08       [All]    [TooShade]iErnesto94 killed mordor91
42:10    Dark3r    [Allies]    we win
42:14       [All]    [TooShade]Aster destroyed the bottom level 4 Sentinel tower
42:14    mordor91    [Allies]    he wont play
42:15    Aster    [Allies]    finish
42:25       [All]    [TooShade]marian_al3cs destroyed the mid level 4 Sentinel tower
42:25    Dark3r    [Allies]    u deserve a perma
42:26    Tzk6    [Allies]    go report this shit
42:32       [All]    [TooShade]The World Tree is now at 75% HP
42:35       [All]    [TooShade]The World Tree is now at 50% HP
42:35       [All]    A votekick against player [sacoor] has expired.
42:39       [All]    [TooShade]The World Tree is now at 25% HP
42:41       [All]    [TooShade]The World Tree is now at 10% HP
5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
Weaver went down to farm creeps while we had to defend 4 versus 5. It was still open game with small advantage for Scourge team,  everything was possible if Weaver helped, instead he went down to farm creeps while ignoring our call. Scourge team decided to finish and since we died before and after votekick with delay, respawn made last minutes 5 versus 2-3 all the time. At least warn should go for Weaver.
6: Link of the game? (if applies)
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6339382

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